DIEP Appearance
the first plastic surgeon I consulted does DIEP flap. After seeing the photos, and considering the seriousness of the surgery and recovery, I've decided to go with implants. There are so many people on here who have done DIEP flap surgery, I'm wondering if th PS I consulted just doesn't do good work. I might make an appointment with the PS at U of M that does it. Does anyone know that surgeon's name?
How satisfied are you with your DIEP flap? Do you think it looks good? As good as implants? Better? I don't believe I'm going to need Rx, as of right now it isn't on the table so I should not have skin issues that can result from that. Would it be beneficial to get on the picture forum?
Thanks so much for your input.
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You could also check out Vinnie Myers site. He does three d nipple tattoos but has a lot of pictures and the type of recon is listed on the picture. I have implants, they look great but I will alway be able to feel them under my pecs.That feeling takes some getting used to.
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I have one of one of each, even though I don't hate my implant, the DIEP side is much more natural looking.
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I'm happy with my DIEP.The originals were pretty saggy, so this is definitely an improvement (I'm 54).
I didn't have implants, so I can't compare, but I don't think I would have liked them. Many, however, are very satisfied with them.
My new breasts are soft, warm and full. I have great cleavage and they look wonderful in a bra. My DH says they "feel " very much like a natural breast. Naked, of couse there are the crop circles and missing nipples, but I'll be having stage 2 soon. I'm surprised that the scars are fading as fast as they are!
The flat tummy was certainly a bonus for me, losing it has made me feel so much better about myself.
The lack of sensation in both the breasts and the tummy area is really weird, but it continues to improve.
I did look at many photos online and that helped. Also, understand it takes time to heal, so what you see in the first few weeks is not the final results.
Good luck with your decision. Perhaps a second opinion will help.
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I had DIEP 5 weeks ago. I'm very happy with choice. The breasts feel natural and warm. I'm only done with phase 1, so I don't have nipples yet, but I would be willing to share a picture with you privately if you were interesed
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I had a BMX with immediate DIEP reconstruction 3 years ago. It was a very long surgery with a long recovery time. While recovering, I questioned my decision on a number of occasions. I thought I had made a mistake choosing DIEP. However, now that everything is done (nipples and tattoos), I'm sure I made the right decision for me. My breasts look so natural. They feel warm and soft. I saw my primary care dr recently who hasn't seen me in two years and she was very impressed. She forgot for a moment that they weren't original equipment. My husband is happy as well. -
I love the DIEP left side, it looks better than the pictures I see on internet. My PS said mine was good, my stomach skin color is the same as my breast you only see a small white line the skin texture and color is a perfect match. My scar is very flat and white. My new breast literal feels like my natural one. I keep getting more feeling even after 3 years.
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Where did you go for your surgery? Did any of you go to New Orleans?
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I used the plastic surgery department at the NCI center I was going to already. I wanted all of my drs close by and available. I chose immediate reconstruction and I wanted my BS to do the BMX portion. He picked the PS since he liked the work he did. I met with the PS to plan the procedure and discuss what my expectations were. He was a warm and caring man and I felt very good about that choice. I was very pleased with the results! I liked the fact that my PS was a 20 minute drive or 30 minute train ride away. I was so nervous about recovering I called the PS office regularly to check on things. They were great, always fit me in to be seen right away. When it was time for nipples and tattoos, I returned to the same PS. His nipple surgery was very good, the scar tissue was minimized and he lipo-ed some fat around my waist. The tattoos were done by the micro-pigmentation specialist who worked out of the PS office. She is very good and my areolas look so natural. My scars are hidden by the tattoos.I am very happy that I stayed local.
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I also stayed local. I live in PA. It is convenient having your doctor close by if possible. I've had several follow ups with him over the past few months, next week I go again to discuss stage 2! Tats will be done in the office.
On the other hand, many have to or choose to travel and it seems like this can all be coordinated, which is great. I didn't consider this option because of the extra cost of travel.
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You were lucky Meow13 that your tummy was the same colour as your breasts. In my case, with the radiation, my chest skin was much darker, and because I had been flat for two years (and hadn't tanned my tummy for quite a few years!) I ended up with a large white "football-shaped" flap (complete with diagonal stretch marks - thanks kids!!!!)
Oh well, it's still nice to have two warm soft breasts, even if they don't really "feel" like me yet.
I found an online store selling temporary nipple tattoos for $1.50 per pair, so bought a sample of different sizes shapes and colours. I tried the first one, and it must have been a week ago now, and it hasn't even started to come off, even with daily showers.
I'm dithering about nipple recon, and thinking of maybe sticking with 3-D tatts, so this was an experiment before going for permanent tattoos .... I can't believe how good they look! I'm less than 12 weeks out from Stage 1 bilateral MS-TRAM surgery as yet.
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I had both types of reconstruction, implants and then DIEP.
I unfortunately was not told about DIEP when I was diagnosed in 2012 at my local hospital. They don't do that surgery, actually anywhere in my state. They offered Tram but when I was told my abdominal muscle would be cut and it usually only recovers 40% of strength that didn't appeal to me.
So I had a BMX with immediate expanders and then supposed to have implants after fills completed.
I had a terrible infection in left expander 3 weeks following surgery which required they remove it. II underwent five months of chemo and then after I was strong enough they put back in left expander, right had finished being filled before chemo.
I got another low grade infection after my third fill which kept me on antibiotics two months. They finally cultured the fluid around the expander and with the right antibiotic took the risk of removing both expanders and placing silicone implants. It worked. I was on IV antibiotics for a month but the implants did not become infected.
Unfortunately, I hated them. I had constant pain and it felt like rocks in my chest. My pecs were always sore from being stretched over them. I even had small implants to minimize that pain, barely a small B size but I found them so uncomfortable.
I think it may be because of all the infections and my body not being happy with a foreign object because many women do not have that discomfort with implants.
I finally chose DIEP and removed implants and had it done at one of the top centers in NOLA. I didn't have a choice of having it close to home so figured with having gone through four surgeries with implants I wanted to go to a place that does DIEP all the time.
I had stage 1 Dec 10th. It is a rough recovery, mostly the prolonged fatigue got to me after four weeks but by 8 weeks post op I was visiting and lifting my grandson who is 26 lbs and my energy was really improving. After 12 weeks from stage 1 I had stage 2 back at NOLA. They did someday grafting to fill inshapingthebreastand lowered and smoothed out my abdominal scar. That was two weeks ago and I feel great. Stills one have all my energy back but I feel good and have no pain.
My DIEP Breast feel fantastic,they are back under my pectoral and are so soft and warm and move. I had no complications from DIEP and did with implants so that could be why it I am so happy I did this. They feel a part of me. I kept them smallish, they are a full B cup now and I love cuddling my grandson against my soft bosom.
Everyone is so different. My one recommendation is if you choose DIEP find surgeons who do a lot of them. It is a big, complex surgery and I think that is very important.
Best of luck.
Julieho
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You cannot go wrong with the DIEP flap recon. It is a long surgery, but if you find a PS who is a very experienced microsurgeon you will be fine.I had BMX and immediate DIEP flap recon by PRMA's Dr Chrysopoulo in San Antonio TX and could not be happier with the results. I have soft, warm breasts that look better than the originals. I did not find the surgical recovery to be bad at all and he made sure I had NO pain, only some minor discomfort.
My sister-in-law just had a LAT flap which involves muscle AND implants because this was the only procedure offered in her area and she has been miserable from the get go. I wish she had had the some opportunity to had to have the DIEP in her area, but that was not the case.
It is my understanding that implants can be uncomfortable, cold, hard and may need to be replaced down the road. If you have an opportunity to have the DIEP flap you should take it.
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Well, it's a pretty personal decision. I don't find my implants "uncomfortable, cold or hard". They are definitely firmer than my natural breasts were, but they aren't exactly rocks either
I am very active and my implants do not cause any pain or discomfort. Not that my experience is everyone's, but people DO have DIEP complications too, just different kinds than with implants
I did have a revision last week, to swap the implants, to try and correct some rippling on one side but I have had two very smooth surgeries and easy recoveries (my first surgery was BMX direct to implant)I now have anatomicals and think they look pretty darn good. I was able to have nipple sparing, as well. DIEP was never really an option for me because, for one, I don't have the tissue for it (I am pretty small and lean though I've always had naturally larger breasts and wanted to have similar or only slightly smaller again...30E...which my tummy could NOT give me), didn't want the extra surgical site or to alter my tummy at all, have the longer recovery time, and honestly I've also had a couple close and personal observances of people close to mewho did not have glowing DIEP outcomes and/or recoveries...so I admit was slighty jaded (even if I did have the tummy to spare).
However, I have also heard some very positive DIEP stories, and seen some very good results. Just as I have also seen less successful implant stories and outcomes. I really don't think there is an ideal reconstruction that suits everybody or that one should always choose one over the other...as said, it is a personal decision, but it also is dependent on your own body, desired outcomes, tolerances for length of surgery and recovery, and so on.
I mostly posted here to say the Picture Forum is a fantastic resource....while there are more implants than flaps, there are still lots of flaps.
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Thank you everyone. The NOLA website has some wonderful results- much better than the pics from the surgeon I saw. Between that, the length and recovery of the surgery and a girlfriend's very difficult, recent abdominal surgery (not related to a DIEP flap), I wrote off DIEP. I have two kids who are 9 and 10, so the recovery time does worry me. I recovered very easily from my port surgery- no painkillers needed. I've decided to call University of Michigan to get a consult and hopefully a website with photos of Dr. Momoh's DIEP results. I'm going to call the center in NOLA too and get some info.
Thank you all for sharing your info! I have requested to join the picture forum as well.
Jena
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Of course everyone's recovery time is different and all surgeries have the potential for complications, my recovery was not too bad. I took 5 weeks off from work. I was tired when I first went back, but I think a lot of the fatigue came from chemo. The first two weeks after surgery I didn't function too well, but after that I was able to cook and do light household chores.
My surgery was 13 hours, longer than expected because there was some trouble getting blood flow on one side. I got "foot drop" on one side from compression to a nerve in my leg from the surgical boots, but I had some PT and all is well now.
There's a recovery time for all surgeries, don't let that influence your decision. What's more important is how you will feel about your body in the long run. There's no "best"recon option, just the one that feels right for you.
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I had mine done by dr. Hakim Said at UW in Seattle.
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