March certainly came in like a lion for me...

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justmaximom15
justmaximom15 Member Posts: 264
edited March 2015 in Just Diagnosed

Preventive mam on 3/2, received call that afternoon to come back for a diagnostic which I've had before. Diagnostic scheduled for early morning on 3/5. That appt went from a mammogram to ultrasound to biopsy and on Monday morning of this week 3/9 I got the dreaded call that it was cancer.

I have an appt tomorrow morning 3/12 with the surgeon my gyno recommended and an appt Friday morning with a surgeon from the breast care center where I get my mams done. Second opinions are expected right?

Here's all that I know - it's IDC but it appears small. Possibly 7 mm x 6 mm so I think that is good?? The pieces of tissue that were taken in the biopsy tested at Grade 1. I have a ton of questions and I've printed a ton of pages from this site to take with me this week.

I'm 46, single but in a committed relationship and I have two sons. I've told my sister, my SO and my oldest son who is 28. I'm telling my Mom and my 16yr old son tomorrow after I've gotten some more information from the doctor. A co-worker who knew I had the mams last week asked me this morning how things were and I did confide in her and thankfully she is trustworthy.

Not sure what else to say except this truly sucks and I hate that I'm here but at the same time this website has given me answers to so many questions already that I'm truly thankful.

You'll be seeing me around a lot!

K


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  • Trvler
    Trvler Member Posts: 3,159
    edited March 2015

    Yes, size is small and that's good. Did they tell you if it is ER/PR + or HER+?

  • justmaximom15
    justmaximom15 Member Posts: 264
    edited March 2015

    They didn't tell me but then again when I talked to them on the phone I didn't know what to ask. I could probably call the Nurse Navigator at the breast care center and get that info but I also assume that I'll get it tomorrow when I talk to the doctor.

  • Trvler
    Trvler Member Posts: 3,159
    edited March 2015

    I will tell you the same thing I just told the other poster. I am going to bet you are ER and PR +. That's good if you are. It means they can give you hormone blockers to block the receptors that are attached to the tumor and make it grow. If they tell you you are +, ask if they know the percentages on both. The higher numbers are better in terms of ability to stop the cancer from growing. Read up on Tamoxifen. That is what they give you (if you are premenopausal, something else if post). It is a hormone blocker and there are side effects similar to menopause symptoms, only you can't take hormone replacement therapy to counteract them. If your numbers are low, you might read the threads about choosing NOT to take Tamoxifen. But wait until you find out. Also find out if you are HER + or -. I can't speak to the treatment of that because I don't have it but you will find out about that if you are +.

    If you have no node involvement, which is highly possible with a tumor that small, you will likely not be needing chemo. That's good, too! Also, you will have more options with regard to lx vs mx. A very small tumor with no nodes can very effectively be treated with lx and rads and have equal outcomes to mx. If you are interested in breast preservation, that is good, too!

    That first appointment is kind of tricky because you are really just in shock and don't even know what to ask. They might send you for an MRI. If you are claustrophobic, read up on tips to handle the test. There are threads on it. If you can't find a thread, just ask. We will find it for you. I had a BIG problem with it and I went to have it with no drugs and had to leave and come back another day but then handled it fine.

  • justmaximom15
    justmaximom15 Member Posts: 264
    edited March 2015

    Thanks for all the helpful information. I have read up a bit on Tamoxifen but probably need to read more. I am premenopausal and I am DEFINITELY claustrophobic. If I do have to have an MRI they will need to drug me as heavily as possible. I'm prone to panic attacks in those (and other circumstances). I sound so messed up!! The claustrophobia has gotten worse as I've aged.

  • Trvler
    Trvler Member Posts: 3,159
    edited March 2015

    Just know if you go to get the MRI, your doctor has to prescribe the meds beforehand. I sometimes take 1/2 of a .05 mg Xanex to sleep. I had to take 3 x that to get through the MRI. I am telling you that because my sister warned me that my normal dose would not be sufficient and she was right. Make sure you have someone to drive you home.

    The machine is kind of like a massage table, opening for your breasts and head. You lie face down and put your breasts and head in the hole. When they told me ahead of time it was like a massage table, I thought no problem. But there was a bunch of crap directly in front of my face, which made me feel like I couldn't breathe, including a pillow. Also, your head is not inside the MRI. You can see the open end. But you can't move while you are in there.

    The second time I went, I did everything I knew would help me. I made them remove the pillow. They tried to give me earplugs the first time. I made them give me headphones with music. Earplugs only increase my claustrophobia. Not sure why. That music REALLY helped me. I specifically asked for disco but they gave me a 70's mix, which was ok.

    If there was ONE thing I thought was going to bother me, I fixed it before hand. I was getting really hot and I made them take off my socks. Once you go in, they don't want you to come out so know that going in and make sure you are completely ok before they put you in. Sometimes they will try to push you to be ready. If you are not ready, don't let them do it.

    I am like you. For some reason, my claustrophobia gets worse as I get older.

  • Trvler
    Trvler Member Posts: 3,159
    edited March 2015

    Oh, and if you can wait to get the test, they will tell you what time of month is best. They wanted me to wait 3 weeks, which I didn't want to do. Because I didn't take it at the optimal time of month, they found little on my MRI that was of any use.

  • Scwilly
    Scwilly Member Posts: 489
    edited March 2015

    justmaximom15 - I am so sorry you have been diagnosed, I can remember how shocking and scary that time was. As you learn the details of your dx and your subsequent treatment, you will start to feel more in control. Grade 1 is good and as Trvler said, probably Er/Pr+. I was Er-Pr-Her2- (triple negative), which is mostly grade 3, but I am grade 2, and only a very very small percentage are grade 1. Remember to ask for copies of your results, your initial pathology particularly. It will seem like a foreign language to start, but will help you understand why you are being recommended your treatment plan. I was given advice by my nurse navigator to try not to worry about everything that could possilble happen and to focus on what you are going through at the time, and also not to drive when stressed/upset. Its ok to cry (I did often and quite ferociously) know that there will be a time when you will feel stronger and able to get through this. Take someone with you if you can to your appointments. This is a club we never applied for but are members all the same. You will find many people on this board that can help you through your treatment. Wishing you all the best. Let us know how you get on. Sarah xo

  • msphil
    msphil Member Posts: 1,536
    edited March 2015

    helllo sweetie, we have been where u are somestill goingthru, thats why im here to Inspire, your at the beginning , so once all is in place you will feel a bit better,i am now a 21 yr Survivor(Praise GOD) and stay here to help others is my Humbled contribution. Come here asoften as u need we will be here for you. msphil(idc,stage2, 0/3 nodes, L mast, with reconstruction, body rejected implant was removed)chemo:adriamycin,cytoxin,5fu, rads and 5 yrs on tamoxifen. 

  • justmaximom15
    justmaximom15 Member Posts: 264
    edited March 2015

    Just returned from my appointment and honestly it was a very positive (if any of this can be) experience. I liked the surgeon, she seems like she knows what she's doing for sure. She actually called it "tiny" and she said that given everything she's seen she thinks that I won't have any issues and we'll be able to take care of this. I needed to hear that.

    I'm ER+ (86%) PR+ (89%) Her2 - and my K1-67 is 13%

  • Trvler
    Trvler Member Posts: 3,159
    edited March 2015

    Great. So they are not recommending an MRI? Did she recommend a lx?

  • justmaximom15
    justmaximom15 Member Posts: 264
    edited March 2015

    She did not recommend an MRI, she said she just didn't see the need for it and that was before I told her that I was terrified of getting one.

    As for the procedure, she said that a lx is the usual procedure for what I have but it is completely up to me and she really didn't insinuate one would be any better than the other.

    She told me that at this time we aren't in a rush and that I actually have a few weeks to decide but to me, just as I don't want to underthink it, I also don't want to overthink it either. I have an appt with another surgeon tomorrow morning and I'll hear what she has to say and I'll take the weekend to think about it. At this point, I'm leaning toward lx but not in love with the thought of the radiation afterward.

  • Trvler
    Trvler Member Posts: 3,159
    edited March 2015

    Well, I am sure you know that having a mx is not a guarantee of not having rads. I agree with her that you don't need to rush. I am glad you don't have to have the MRI.

  • justmaximom15
    justmaximom15 Member Posts: 264
    edited March 2015

    Appt with the 2nd surgeon this morning went well also. Both surgeons mostly had the same things to say and everything is pointing to a positive outcome at this point, believe me I truly feel thankful and not taking that for granted while at the same time I keep in the back of my mind that this can all change.

    I don't think I expected to be torn between what I feel are two very good choices for my BS. Maybe I should make a separate post about choosing between these quality individuals? Again, I feel thankful for that being a "problem" as I know that I'm lucky to live near good healthcare options.

  • Trvler
    Trvler Member Posts: 3,159
    edited March 2015

    I think that's great that you have two good options. I wish I had that problem.

  • SpecialK
    SpecialK Member Posts: 16,486
    edited March 2015

    Honestly, while it is great to have an oncological breast surgeon you feel is a good fit, once your surgery is over you see that doc very little. A post-op or two, then possibly a once a year check-in, depending on the surgery chosen.  People get very focused on the breast surgeon because it is often their first doc in the lineup, but if you have mastectomy with recon you will spend much more time with your plastic surgeon, and if you require systemic treatment you will need a good rapport with your medical oncologist, you will see that doctor for years. If you have a lumpectomy, it is likely you will do a post-op and nothing further with the breast surgeon.  If both docs are equally qualified, and you feel comfortable with both, chose the one who can schedule your surgery at the most optimal time for you. Some docs are very booked, which means more waiting. Or, choose the one with the lowest re-excision rate. Another possibility is to ask other docs you will need, such as RO or MO, who they recommend between the two.

  • Trvler
    Trvler Member Posts: 3,159
    edited March 2015

    Special: Does the doctor actually administer the chemo?

  • Okiemomof4
    Okiemomof4 Member Posts: 54
    edited March 2015

    HI justmaximom,

    Your story and diagnosis sounds so similar to mine. 47 at diagnosis. Small tumor (1.3) highly ER+. And highly PR +. HER2-. Had to make decision between LX and MX. Had always thought I would go with MX if I ever found myself in this situation. That was my initial reaction after being diagnosed. But I had no peace about it. When I decided to go with LX, I felt peace and never questioned my decision. Because I live over an hour from the cancer center where all my doctors are, I was approved for internal radiation. 2x a day for 5 days. Involved another surgery to have the balloon catheter placed.

    I had no node involvement so an Oncotype test was done on my tumor. Came back in the low risk of recurrence so no chemo for me. Put on a hormone blocker.

    The one thing you need to consider with a LX is the follow up. You will be followed very closely. You will have screenings every 6 months. I have a single mammo in June and a double mammo AND a MRI in December. These times can be filled with anxiety. Any change is going to be checked out since you have already shown a propensity to grow tumors. I had to have another biopsy done this past December because they saw a change. Turned out to be fat necrosis from my internal radiation. Yay! But still a few nerve wracking days. I still believe I made the right choice going with LX, but I do dread the screenings.

    Lastly, you will be going to see a MO and RO(if you have radiation.) At first, I saw my MO every 4 months and my RO every 6. My MO just pushed me back to every 6 months as I am almost 3 years NED.

    Feel free to PM me if you have questions or just want to rant. You got this!

  • tgtg
    tgtg Member Posts: 266
    edited March 2015

    Justmaximom--Glad your situation is looking so positive, and that you have two good surgeons to choose between. As a lumpectomy + radiation person myself, and with a diagnosis somewhat similar to yours except for age, I can assure you that the rads were really no big deal, other than requiring a minor adjustment of my schedule for 7 weeks. At this point, more than two years out, the procedures of the first half of 2013 are a memory and not much more than that, except when the yearly mammos and follow-up appointments with my surgeon every six months* roll around and I have to make room on the calendar for them. But as so many on this bco site know, each breast cancer case is different from every other (maybe similar, but not identical), and each calls for individualized responses and treatment plans.

    *I put that phrase about appointments with my surgeon in bold face to counterbalance Special K's generalization that no one sees a breast surgeon very often post-op. I saw my surgeon 6 times post-op between Jan, and August 2013; since Jan 2014, I have been seeing him twice a year, and he will continue to be my "go to" oncologist from here on out, since I declined hormonal treatment and therefore am not seeing a medical oncologist. I am not alone in this scenario, as other women I know are also being followed up by their surgeons, some because they too chose to pass on hormonal intervention and some because their diagnoses (especially ER status) did not necessitate hormonal intervention. Again, each case is different, and you must ultimately deal with your particular case with your statistics and your prognosis, In the meantime, enjoy the luxury of choice you have about which surgeon to use and choose the one that you feel most comfortable with. Good luck with the treatments to come. TG

  • justmaximom15
    justmaximom15 Member Posts: 264
    edited March 2015

    Updating a bit but not before thanking you all who have responded. I do appreciate your thoughts and sharing of your experience.

    I chose my breast surgeon (the 2nd one) and my procedure - lx with reduction. Therefore, I now need to visit with a PS and that appt is in the morning and then hopefully after that the PS and BS offices will coordinate and get this thing scheduled and soon I hope. I saw RO yesterday and feel very comfortable with him, his nurses and office staff. He did not think that the shorter 3 week course of radiation would be for me so we're looking at 6 weeks of that 5 days a week. tgtg, it's good to hear from you that is not a big deal. Luckily, the office is 10 mins from where I work so that helps with my schedule.

  • florida2015
    florida2015 Member Posts: 186
    edited March 2015

    I agree with the title of your post I had the same thing basically happen to me. And had same thing happen to me with routine mammo. Mine is small also. .08. Had lumpectomy and since then have found that I don't have any cancer in my nodes.

    I'm expecting to do radiation and probably have to go on one of those medications which I absolutely dread after reading the side effects

    I have only

    told my husband my best friend my two sisters and one daughter who is 18 and in college. My older daughter who is 20 has aspergers and I don't think it would do her any good to tell her

    I am waiting for the results of my Oncotype test and speaking to two different radiologists on April 3

    This is all still very surreal and I'm not handling it very well. Depressed and anxious. Thank goodness for Xanax. Although I may have to re-explore taking an antidepressant.

    Good luck. Hope you just have to have radiation.









  • florida2015
    florida2015 Member Posts: 186
    edited March 2015

    I agree with the title of your post I had the same thing basically happen to me. And had same thing happen to me with routine mammo. Mine is small also. .08. Had lumpectomy and since then have found that I don't have any cancer in my nodes.

    I'm expecting to do radiation and probably have to go on one of those medications which I absolutely dread after reading the side effects. I have only.

    told my husband my best friend my two sisters and one daughter who is 18 and in college. My older daughter who is 20 has aspergers and I don't think it would do her any good to tell her

    I am waiting for the results of my Oncotype test and speaking to two different radiologists on April 3

    This is all still very surreal and I'm not handling it very well. Depressed and anxious. Thank goodness for Xanax. Although I may have to re-explore taking an antidepressant.

    Good luck. Hope you just have to have radiation.









  • SpecialK
    SpecialK Member Posts: 16,486
    edited March 2015

    trvler - sorry - didn't see your question regarding whether the oncologist administers the chemo themselves - not in my experience.  I saw my oncologist prior to each session of chemo - I was weighed and vital signs taken and a CBC drawn.  As long as my blood counts were at acceptable levels I discussed any issues with my doc and then went back into the infusion room, had my port accessed and received a succession of different meds - pre-meds of anti-nausea, steroids and Tylenol, two chemo drugs, and Herceptin, that were mixed for me by the on-site pharmacist and administered by oncology nurses.

  • Trvler
    Trvler Member Posts: 3,159
    edited March 2015

    Thanks, Special. It's ok. I had my 'chemotorial' yesterday.

  • SpecialK
    SpecialK Member Posts: 16,486
    edited March 2015

    trvler - excellent, and each center may be a bit different.

  • florida2015
    florida2015 Member Posts: 186
    edited March 2015

    Hi I am just curious. How were you able to get appointments so quickly with two surgeons?

    And thst is wonderful you did and it's good they both agree

  • Pokemom1959
    Pokemom1959 Member Posts: 198
    edited March 2015

    JustMaxi - You might want to check with your breast surgeon and see if intra-operative radiation therapy (IORT) is offered at your hospital. If they have it,it will be on a clinical trial basis.They actually do the radiation during the lx. One shot of radiation and you're done. I had no side effects. I'd highly recommend it

  • justmaximom15
    justmaximom15 Member Posts: 264
    edited March 2015

    florida2015, I actually needed to hear that question this morning because I have been frustrated with the timeline of things. Maybe I should be more thankful.

    When I got the dx phone call on Monday the 9th, my gyno recommended Surgeon #1 and I called immediately that day and got an appt on Thursday. Same day, I got a call from the Nurse Navigator at the hospital where my mammogram was performed. She wanted to make sure I was well informed and also gave me the name of the breast surgeon #2 that practices there if I didn't want to go with the one my gyno recommended. I told her I was fine getting a 2nd opinion and she was able to get me an appointment for that Friday during the same phone call.

    That being said, I'm now getting frustrated because it took another week to get in to see the plastic surgeon (I decided on reduction with lumpectomy) and I didn't care for him. I'm sure he's quite capable but I didn't like his interaction nor did I care for any of his office staff. It seems that getting a date scheduled that works for both him and my breast surgeon is not an easy task and assuming we get the all clear from insurance today then the soonest both could do and that's not even confirmed but we're looking at April 2nd. My BS only does these surgeries one day a week which confuses me as to why I was told there would be no problem getting this done by the end of the month.

    I'm just frustrated and already sick of seeing doctors.

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