Angry at doctors! Will not call back. Need Chemo ASAP!
It's been three weeks since my mother was diagnosed with breast cancer.
She has ductal breast cancer on her right breast, triple negative stage 2 and the Ki-67 test is 99% and the cancer is about 2x2 cm large with a fast growth rate. (It's a lot bigger now than 3 wks ago)
After having pain in her right breast, a hard lump, and getting a tissue sample three weeks ago, we found out my mom has breast cancer. She was first told that she needed either a lumpectomy or mastectomy, and chemotherapy afterwards. However, a recent phone call let us know that this cancer is extremely aggressive, and chemotherapy should be started as soon as possible as cancer is likely somewhere else in the body. Chemo is to shrink her breast tumor and any other cancer that may be in the body.
Her doctor said that she should speak to an oncologist early THIS week and get in for chemotherapy ASAP. However... after calling the oncologist multiple times a day and only getting messages she finally received a call today, that they have an opening for her oncologist for the consultation on March 30th. WEEKS away from now. And that is only the consultation for Chemotherapy. She was led to believe this is very aggressive and needs to be dealt with asap, as in she needed a consultation Monday, three days ago... and to get in for chemo extremely soon. She's left several messages for oncologist and her regular doctor, no returned calls yet for a few days.
I am absolutely livid. I am ready to stomp in there and raise all sorts of hell if I have to, though my mother really doesn't wish for me to do this. This is kind of important!!! Is this normal??? Should she find a diff. doctor/oncologist? It's been three weeks since diagnoses and she has had no (formal) treatment as of yet. It's really getting her down and depressed that nobody seems to care that the growth rate of her breast cancer is 99% and she NEEDS to get in for chemo. I am so upset at the lack of professionalism I've been in tears all morning. So angry....
Thankfully we live in a state where Marijuana is legal for medical use... she is taking matters into her own hands and has CBD oil, as well as THC chews for all the anxiety she is having with finding out she has cancer, and having to deal with incompetent doctors. I am consulting a holistic herbalist as well...
I am worried that the doctors are not taking this as seriously as it should be taken. Can anyone give me any insight on this? Have you experienced this? With her diagnoses do you think she should get in a bit quicker? Anyone who has gone through this, please, PLEASE let me know what you think!
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Yes.
Move on. To be honest you need to be at a practice that is responsive to your concerns and it doesn't sound like this one is.
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Hi Aliceisalive,
I am so sorry your mom and family is going through this difficult time!! I was diagnosed in Aug 2014 with IDC 3.5cm grade 3 breast cancer, ER/PR+ Her2-, I did not have chemo until Jan15, 2015, but did have a bmx in Nov 2014.
I completely understand the fear/anxiety this cancer causes with all the waiting. I too was/still am worried about microscopic cancer cells floating around in my body. I too did the cannabis oil while waiting for treatment, as did my husbands grandma/grandpa when they were diagnosed with their cancers.
Your mom and you will be her best advocate, the one thing I learned during my treatment was I had to stay on top of everything, make phone calls to ensure tests, referrals we booked in a timely manner.
Did your mom have any other scans (MRI, PET scan, etc) to determine if lymph nodes were involved? I was told that bc of my age (30), size and grade of tumor it was aggressive but because there was no lymph node involvement it was an "emergency case" to get me into chemo before Xmas.
I know I'm not of much help but that was my time line, I hope your mom is able to get in soon and get a treatment plan started!
Teri
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I agree with cookie, find another oncologist. Of all the doctors your mom will see, she will have the longest relationship with the MO. Find one that is responsive to her needs. Is there any kind of cancer center near you? They usually are very quick to get patients in.
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Hi!
Thank you for your honesty cookie!
TeriMP: The only test she has had done is the tissue sample test, I thought it kind of strange that they didn't have her do an mri or any other sort of testing... is that abnormal?
The KI-67 test is what made them change their mind, and decide chemo before surgery. 20% is borderline unsafe anything over 30% is very unsafe for surgery and is a high growth rate. Hers was 99%. It's a little confusing to me... but it does not sound good! Thank you for replying!!!!
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Hi Alice, if the Doctor does not respond, call another oncologist. Did her PCP recommend anyone? Try and call the PCP and see who they work with. I had almost 5 weeks from my biopsy until I started chemo and I have invasive cancer. I had AC/T and finished it 11/25. I had surgery, and just finished rads. My MO appointment is next week. You could also try calling the ACS and see if they can help. They have a lot of resources available. Do you have a cancer or breast center close by? Are you in the US? What tests has your Mom had? I will say one thing, this can be a very slippery slope to navigate sometimes. Write down everything, and save every report. I have multiple binders from all of the info I have from the last 10 months.
I think it is time to be pro active, and get someone on your side and have a team in place. You will feel better when you have a team and treatment in place. Good Luck!!
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Hi bren!
I'm not sure if there is a cancer center nearby... we are near Reno, NV. There are plenty in California I'm sure... this oncologist was supposed to be the best in the area... but I'm really doubting that now!
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I'm assuming your mother was diagnosed by a breast surgeon? I would call the breast surgeon and have him/her call an oncologist and get an appointment set asap. They can do that and save you a lot of trouble.
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I honestly am not too sure if it is abnormal as it seems to be each practitioner is different in how they do things. Once I was diagnosed from the ultrasound / mammogram / core biopsy and met with my BS to discuss surgery options. It was she who ordered the MRI. Most of the ladies I have talked to have had an MRI, if doctors are concerned the cancer may have spread will order a PET scan. I have asked for a PET scan to put my mind at ease but have been told it's not done on my stage as it is unnecessary test that I don't need to be exposed to.
It never hurts to seek out a second opinion as this is your moms life, she will need to advocate for herself to ensure she is being heard and getting the treatment she needs/deserves in a timely manner.
Wishing you and your mom the best!
Teri
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Agree with Beachbum102 the American Cancer Society has lots of help out there for people (wish I had known it beforehand, not after!). Reno, NV ACS # is 775-329-0609 (per Google). I would say call as many places as you can until you can get her an appointment ASAP. Something I learned from my experience is you can't wait on other people, trust your instinct and don't hesitate to get 2nd opinion.
Also some breast cancer centers (per Google) in Reno NV: Renown Breast Health Center Phone:(775) 982-8100 and Diagnostic Breast Care Center, Sparks, NV Phone:(775) 356-5800.
Wishing your mom the very best (and of course you too).
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Just want to add that before your Mom has chemo they will order some additional tests.
Labs will most assuredly be drawn closer to the start of chemo to make certain that your mother's levels on each test are appropriate to undergo chemo. Mine showed low iron about 3 weeks before I started. I chose to ingest all sorts of iron rich foods to get that back to where it was to be. Others choose iron supplements. That's just one example of something that might show up.
Depending on the chemo, they will order a MUGA
"A multigated acquisition (MUGA) scan creates video images of the ventricles (lower chambers of the heart that hold blood) to check whether they are pumping blood properly. It shows any abnormalities in the size of the ventricles and in the movement of the blood through the heart. Other names for this test include cardiac blood pooling imaging, nuclear heart scan, nuclear ventriculography, and radionuclide ventriculography.
Some people with cancer who receive chemotherapy or other drugs may need this test before cancer treatment to identify preexisting heart conditions or during or after cancer treatment to identify chemotherapy-related heart damage." Cancer.net
I did not have neoadjuvant chemo - so I cannot speak to that. It seems like a second FIRST opinion is probably warranted with your mother's case - since you are not able to get in as soon as you believe her condition warrants.
Who is the doctor that ordered the initial tests that found her breast cancer? Her gynecologist? Her internist? Her primary care physician? Which doctor's office called and told her to get in as soon as possible? You can most definitely start there.
I will also suggest that your mother needs (if she has not already done so) to get complete copies of all records and results surrounding this diagnosis. She needs this for her records and armed with these results, she will be able to provide them immediately to the oncologist she chooses. (I'd suggest taking them and hand delivering them.)
One more thing - appointment schedulers cannot always get you in asap - but nurses and doctors can. So it really is imperative that you are speaking with the diagnosing doctor and having him/her advocate on your mother's behalf for an EARLIER appointment. Nurses and doctors will have access to openings that the general scheduler will not.
Diana
Edited to add: Seeing a dentist to ascertain good dental health is also usually scheduled.
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Hi Alice-
We wanted to welcome you to our community here at BCO. We're so sorry for what brings you here, but we hope you and your mom find this to be a supportive, informative place.
You've gotten a lot of great responses with some really good advice. We're going to second finding another oncologist, either on your own or by asking for a referral from your mother's PCP. It is so important that you both feel comfortable with her doctors, but also that you feel secure knowing that she's getting the best care possible.
Get a hold of your mother's medical records, and just start calling around. You're going to need the information regarding her cancer and diagnosis when you speak with other doctor's offices. We strongly agree with what Dltnhm said above us: front desk receptionists and the people who typically make the appointments most likely won't be familiar with the specifics that you're discussing, so ask to speak to a nurse in the office, or leave a message (or several) for the doctor.
Your mother is very lucky to have you as her advocate during all of this. We know how difficult it is to navigate, especially in the beginning! Please let us know if you have any questions, or need assistance of any kind.
The Mods
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Hi Alice,I am so sorry to hear about your mom. I know you both must be really scared right now. I have to agree with Beachbum ... see if you can find another oncologist and get a sooner appointment. Are you able to travel at all? Sacramento isn't too far from you and may have a cancer center at one of the major hospitals. It sounds like you aren't getting much of a response from your PCP either. That's very frustrating.
Also, as all the gals wrote, it's very important to keep a record of all the reports, tests and office visits. You can request copies of all the reports and keep them in a notebook. It sucks that you have to be so vigilant about the care your mom receives right now ... when you're overwhelmed and afraid of what's going to happen. Your mom is fortunate that you can help her navigate through the coming weeks and months.
Best to you both,
Bren
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Perhaps reading what I've written here can help you and your mom?
https://community.breastcancer.org/forum/147/topic/831038?page=1#idx_2
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