Spring 2015 Radiation Sisters

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  • cbooklvr
    cbooklvr Member Posts: 66
    edited March 2015

    I am HER2 positive and had 4 of 20 positive nodes. After chemo I was so not interested in rads, but RO said my chance of reoccurance is 35%. With that number I decided to go forth.

    Waiting for call on my exact start date, should be this week. I am ready to get started and get this over with.

    Are most people having fatigue? I am 5 weeks done with chemo. I thought I would be feeling normal by now, but sadly neuropathy in my hands and feet. Still have sudden drops of energy. So I am worried about more fatigue.

    Cherice

  • Moderators
    Moderators Member Posts: 25,912
    edited March 2015

    Dear Katluck13, welcome to BCO Forums and we hope your radiation goes well. Our thoughts are with you all.

    The Mods

  • ElaineTherese
    ElaineTherese Member Posts: 3,328
    edited March 2015

    cbooklvr -- sorry to hear about your neuropathy. During chemo, I developed a little neuropathy in my fingertips and toes, but it's not too debilitating. I don't have fatigue yet from rads, but I've only got one week under my belt. Maybe, some of the ladies further along have some insights.

  • CassieCat
    CassieCat Member Posts: 1,257
    edited March 2015

    Re: fatigue - I'm not having much fatigue to speak of. I get tired at night, but I'm also back to work after being off for 5 months through chemo and surgery, so I might be tired anyway. I've done 22 treatments so far, out of 28. The whole area is red, but the only part that is really bothering me is under my arm. That area is getting very dark red, and the skin is starting to feel tight, especially when I first wake up in the morning. No blisters or open areas yet, but I'm worried about going through 6 more treatments without things getting worse before they get better. Aiming for an end date of April 1st. :)

  • zjrosenthal
    zjrosenthal Member Posts: 2,026
    edited March 2015

    Wow, my hat (or actually my wig) is off to you gals who are working! For the next 6 weeks my only job will be to get to rads and I'm not sure if I can do that! I retired 15 yrs,ago from over 30 yrs of teaching and now I know why they call it re-tired cause I sure am tired! Love, Jean

  • cbooklvr
    cbooklvr Member Posts: 66
    edited March 2015

    I went back to work after surgery and worked through chemo. All my medical peeps said rads will be physically easier. Fingers crossed they are right

  • cbooklvr
    cbooklvr Member Posts: 66
    edited March 2015

    Thanks as always for the feedback ladies, it's great to have info and support

  • MombieZombie
    MombieZombie Member Posts: 509
    edited March 2015

    I have 15 of 33 rads left. Pretty tired. Herceptin treatments don't help with that. But I'm still doing pretty much everything without having to stop to rest. I have three friends who were able to work until the end. That was encouraging to see.


  • Katluck13
    Katluck13 Member Posts: 8
    edited March 2015

    Hi again,

    The brain aneurysm is just bad luck. Second brain surgery in 10 years. Still tired from that and breast surgery. I start radiation tomorrow morning and will be going to work afterwards. I was an candiate for the Candian Radiation which is for 15 sessions. The reason being I have small breasts. I just need to get to work and then I can rest after work.

  • Katluck13
    Katluck13 Member Posts: 8
    edited March 2015

    Hi again,

    The brain aneurysm is just bad luck. Second brain surgery in 10 years. Still tired from that and breast surgery. I start radiation tomorrow morning and will be going to work afterwards. I was an candiate for the Candian Radiation which is for 20 sessions. The reason being I have small breasts. I just need to get to work and then I can rest after work.

  • JJOntario
    JJOntario Member Posts: 356
    edited March 2015

    I got my tattoos today. The whole process seems tiring. I have my first treatment on the 30th. We are booking the appts for late afternoon so DH can take me as we are an hour away and i just really want him there...I'm not planning on going back to work until this is done. Is everyone else working through rads? I have a good benefit plan which I have hardly ever used. Mentally I feel so drained/stressed from everything ..

  • ElaineTherese
    ElaineTherese Member Posts: 3,328
    edited March 2015

    JJOntario -- I'd probably take time off from work if I lived an hour away from my treatment center! As it is, I live 10 -- 15 minutes away from my "cancer management center," so I'm working through rads. I also worked through five months of chemo, so I'm a real glutton for punishment. I could have taken short-term disability, but I use work as a distraction. It keeps me from fixating on cancer and all the crap that comes with it.

  • NurseShark
    NurseShark Member Posts: 176
    edited March 2015

    I am not working through radiation. My lifting restrictions from surgery don't clear to do my job until I am 3mo post Op should be finishing rads around same time.. but even if lifting restrictions weren't still in place I think I'd stay out. I have been out since diagnosis in July. Definitely could not work through chemo I do not know how anybody does ..so exhausting!

  • CassieCat
    CassieCat Member Posts: 1,257
    edited March 2015

    I didn't work through chemo or surgery, so after being home 5+ months I was antsy to get out of the house again on a daily basis! I'm working through rads, but my center is less than a mile from my house, so I can go at the end of the day and then come home.

  • Evilmidget
    Evilmidget Member Posts: 40
    edited March 2015

    I'm almost to my halfway point in my radiation. I'm scheduled for 36 treatments and because I had a mastectomy without reconstcruction, I've had to have a mesh put over my scar area that conducts the radiation into my chest area where the extensive DCIS is. I have to do a breath-holding technique to keep my heart and most of my lung out of the area and it hasn't been too bad, although sometimes I've felt like I'm not going to "make it" through the treatment length. (sigh).

    I have felt the fatigue but it is worst towards the end of the week since I go to treatment 5 times a week. By Monday I usually feel pretty rejuvenated. My skin looks like I have a major tan, but the only discomfort is under my arms where some of my clothes rub. I get around the fatigue and discomfort by, 1) doing all my workouts in the morning and 2) using Emu oil after my treatments,and 3), not wearing a bra or anything else that's binding.

    I am very careful to include lots of protein and vegetables in my diet and, trying not to get depressed about my physical condition. I'm a personal trainer and was teaching Spinning classes for 14 years and this whole cancer thing has been kind of strange and out of the blue for me. I choose to be positive, but...in the middle of the night.....

  • MombieZombie
    MombieZombie Member Posts: 509
    edited March 2015

    JJOntario--I am sorry you are feeling so drained from everything. This cancer stuff is really a lot to chew on. I hated getting the tatoos. I talked the tech into making the three down my sternum be invisible ones. I hope you are healing fast. Mine itched for days. I agree with Elaine Therese about working. You should take time off if you can. I don't work outside the home. My hat goes off to women who do and fight cancer at the same time. I don't know how I would have gotten through if I had.

    Katluck13--That's crazy that you had a brain aneurysm on top of everything else. The odds just seem so unlikely! The experience you are having really makes me want to go count my blessings. My heart goes out to you.

    I'm more than half done with my rads now. Turning a corner with the skin affects. My skin is lobster red and the tissue under the breast is having trouble. That's where my scars are--not helping. I had to put corn starch there to keep tissue from sticking together. I'm kind of excited because my energy is really picking up lately. I started seeing an Oncological Naturopath. He put me on potassium/magnesium, and also a B complex. Since I'm Her2+, I have to take Q10 to protect my heart from the Herceptin infusions. The naturopath changed the type of Q-10 I'm taking and I can tell it's helping because I am not so breathless going up the stairs. My insurance covers massage too. I went for a massage today. I highly advise doing this if you have the option. Oncology massage is super gentle and so relaxing. Today was the best day I've had since rads started, despite the fact that my radiated skin is red and angry.

  • MombieZombie
    MombieZombie Member Posts: 509
    edited March 2015

    Evilmidget--(Love your pseudo-name there-lol My daughter has Turner's Syndrome and so she's very petite. She would be amused. ) I am glad to hear someone talk about emu oil. Do you feel like it works well? I was put on a natural cream that I had an allergic reaction to because it has a lanolin ingredient. I bought some things today so that I can make my own radiation cream. Emu oil was on my list of ingredients. I've heard good things about it.

  • zjrosenthal
    zjrosenthal Member Posts: 2,026
    edited March 2015

    Oh yes, the middle of the night! Evil thoughts to fight. We lie there frightened waiting for the light. Thank God the sun always comes up, making all things right.

    It helps to know I'm not alone in this. Love, Jean

  • Hopeful82014
    Hopeful82014 Member Posts: 3,480
    edited March 2015

    MombieZombie - it's really good to hear that you're starting to feel some beneficial effects from your new supplement regimen. I hope that carries you through the rest of the treatment on lighter feet.

  • neogirl
    neogirl Member Posts: 269
    edited March 2015

    Hi Ladies.

    This is the 1st time I have had radiation therapy. I have been on Tamoxifen since DX.

    I am starting rads tomorrow to L5 pelvis area. Wondering what to expect side effect wise and went will/if it knock the crap out of me sorta, MO only wanted to do only 10 sessions.

  • zjrosenthal
    zjrosenthal Member Posts: 2,026
    edited March 2015

    A tip that I also posted on the winter rads thread...... If you get itching and an urge to scratch, scratch your leg. It fools the brain somehow. Love, Jean

  • ElaineTherese
    ElaineTherese Member Posts: 3,328
    edited March 2015

    neogirl --

    I can't speak to the SEs you might experience in the L5 pelvis area. Most of us are getting our breast-areas/armpits radiated. However, my radiation therapist told me that it's actually easier to position other body parts for radiation. Apparently, the boob/pit area can be problematic because of the proximity of the heart and lungs to the chest. So, maybe you'll get less poking and prodding on the table.

    As for fatigue, I'm not sure how much you'll experience after 10 sessions (if you're following MO's advice). I've had 7 sessions now and haven't really noticed anything with respect to my energy level.

  • MombieZombie
    MombieZombie Member Posts: 509
    edited March 2015

    Hopeful82014--Thanks. Don't know if you saw my past post about having a tough time emotionally with all of the photo taking and such in radiation. I talked to my doctor today. She's going to eliminate the photo taking and talk to the tech team about what they can do to make things better for me and minimize the traumatizing aspects. I'm so relieved. I might just be able to hold on long enough to finish now.

    zjrosenthal--My skin is in trouble now. And I have sores on my back that won't heal. I've been itchy from day one. Thanks for the "scratch your leg tip. It will help me not shred myself to pieces.

    Doc says my skin is breaking down more than excpected. I still have 14 rads left and 9 of them will be boosts.

    neogirl--Not sure how pelvic treatment differs from breast treatment, but I felt zonked pretty fast in the fatigue department. But oncology massage and supplements from my naturopath have made a HUGE difference. I'm almost bouncing with energy compared to before. Only 10 sessions? Does that mean your dosing is higher than it would be if you were doing more sessions? If you don't mind my asking--did you go through breast cancer and then get uteran cancer from the tamoxifen?

    Question--Has anyone else had pain/irritation develop in their ear? The point in my ear that hurts is directly above and in line with my radiation treatment field. I brought it up with the doc today. They definitely seemed concerned. (It's not infected.) The doc and the nurse had a big whisper together out in the hall about it. I couldn't hear enough of it. But I'm wondering if the machine or techs made a mistake. They were having a lot of technical difficulties last week.

  • MombieZombie
    MombieZombie Member Posts: 509
    edited March 2015

    rjrosenthal--I like your little poem about evil thoughts in the night. It speaks to me. You are definitely not alone. Glad we can help hold each other up.

    One of the few things I can say I like about rad treatment has been making friends with the other women in the waiting room. I don't know what I would have done without them. It does me as much good to be able to empathize with them as it does to have them empathize with me. I'm grateful for the bonds of compassion, both here in this thread and in that waiting room. (Sorry if I'm too much of a mushy-bear. I have a grateful heart today.)

  • Curlykat
    Curlykat Member Posts: 85
    edited March 2015

    Brand new diagnosis here. Had my biopsy March 12th, and met with the surgeon today. I expected that if it wasn't benign, it would be DCIS, and I was right. Surgeon said that we could do the lumpectomy tomorrow or the 25th - I opted for some time to let things sink in and get some things taken care of at work! So lumpectomy will be a week from tomorrow. I will meet with my medical and radiological oncologists on April 2nd and figure out when to start radiation. The surgeon said it could start in as little as 2 weeks, but my breast health navigator said it's usually 4-6. (I'd rather hurry up and get started so I can be finished!) I will then follow with hormone therapy - probably Tamoxifen.

    Doing lots of reading hear and appreciate learning from everyone's experiences!

  • MombieZombie
    MombieZombie Member Posts: 509
    edited March 2015

    Curlykat--Welcome! I am sorry you have to start going through all of this like we are. I'm glad you are here and won't be alone. I hope you are able to breathe and be able to wrap your brain around it all. As for when to start rads--I saw my radiation oncologist only two weeks after my surgery. But this was so that I could get into their system and get things moving. Then I had to wait to heal--believe me, you will want to be healed sufficiently from surgery first. I went for the planning session about 10 days later. Started rads one week after that. It's a process. Hard to be patient. If you want to move fast as possible, then you might want to get your Rad Oncology consultation scheduled.

  • Hopeful82014
    Hopeful82014 Member Posts: 3,480
    edited March 2015

    MombieZombie - Yes, I meant to say something about the photos and I'm glad that you've spoken to your RO about them. Frankly, I think the physical trauma is enough for us to deal with. We should not also have our dignity, privacy, sense of control impinged upon.

    I've already made it clear to my RO that tattoos won't be happening and will plan to request female staff only once tx. is scheduled. For what we (or our insurers) are paying, they can darn well treat us as valued customers rather than so many pieces of meat.

    Cherice - haven't seen you around before; you've probably been too busy with chemo and so forth. I would think that it takes a while to work through the post-chemo fatigue. Ongoing infusions of Herceptin probably contribute to that, too. Give yourself this time between chemo and rad. to take it easy, do only what either HAS to be done or you WANT to do and get back in touch with yourself.

    I know that the neuropathy can linger but hope in your case it hits the road SOON!

  • zjrosenthal
    zjrosenthal Member Posts: 2,026
    edited March 2015

    I've had just 2 of 30 treatments and am already feeling exhausted and skin crawly. May be just psychological. I sure hope I can get through this. Love, Jean

  • MombieZombie
    MombieZombie Member Posts: 509
    edited March 2015

    rjrosenthal--I know just what you mean. I felt tired and drained almost immediately. And I have itched from day one. Ugh. Psychological or not, it's real to you and it's OK to acknowledge it. And OK to holler about it too! I'm sorry you are tired already. Radiation has been an emotional trauma that has gone beyond anything I expected. I'd rather do chemo again. But I'm half done and I didn't think I would make it this far. I want to get well, so I will push through. You can do it Jean. When people ask me how I'm doing, my answer is always that I'm just taking it one day at a time. It's easier to say than do, and I am thinking I need to heed my own advice in more than just words: Just take it one day at a time and try not to think too far ahead. It's just too overwhelming otherwise. (hug)

    hopeful82014--Thank you for letting me know that I'm not the only one. I'm glad you are sticking to your guns and demanding your personal preferences. I wish I had been more firm and more vocal about my needs from the start. I was vocal, but not enough. And nothing prepared me for those photos because I wasn't told they were going to happen. No informed consent form was shown to me on this matter. The day of the planning session the dosimetrist came at me with a camera. She bullied me into accepting it when I protested. I ended up in such frozen shock that I let her. She promised me there wouldn't be any more. Then on my first day of rads, a tech came at me with a camera again. I had warned them that I needed to know things ahead of time--NO surprises! They adamantly insisted that they had to have these photos by requirement and there was no other choice. It took me a lot of searching on the net, but I have discovered that this is a lie. They take the photos to make things easier for themselves. When I brought this up with the doc today, she admitted that there are other ways and the photos aren't completely necessary. I had to fight to get them to do invisible tattoos instead of ones that show, and I had to fight to get them to let my breasts be covered whenever possible. I'm getting more backbone though and now I'm getting ready to protest a problem with my Herceptin infusions at the chemo center--there's a modesty issue there too. Enough is enough! I did win myself a female only staff for my rads, but I get wigged out by our coed dressing room/waiting room.

  • Nomatterwhat
    Nomatterwhat Member Posts: 587
    edited March 2015

    I was a Winter Warrior Raddie.  I wanted to stop by and say hello to you Spring Warrior Raddies.  You can do this ladies.  Take one rad appointment at a time.  I know it seems like forever, but it really does go by quickly.  Before you know it, you will be counting down to #1 and crossing that finish line and when you do a whole bunch of us sisters will be there to celebrate with you. Good luck and if you need anything, some of us will be hanging out on this thread to help. 

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