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  • marciabh
    marciabh Member Posts: 6
    edited March 2015

    Thanks for your reply to my question yesterday about a halo wig using your own hair. I'm considering it.

    Had my port put in along with lumpectomy on Thursday. My port is high up and bulgy and will show with most of my clothes. I've named her Portia and don't like her at all! She is getting under my skin! May have to strangle her with a scarf.

    Any of your MO's consider Navelbine? What is Perjeta for?,

  • iluvcooking
    iluvcooking Member Posts: 3
    edited March 2015

    Hi there, another recruit for your March chemo!! I start next week with my first chemo and like the rest of you wish this cancer hadnt popped up :( Surgery and then radiotherapy to follow so all in all a year out of my life. How have your families coped with the regime? I hope to make as little impact as possible but think that I am being abit naive xx

  • SC_Coqui
    SC_Coqui Member Posts: 133
    edited March 2015

    Trvler- we really like it. Everyone is so kind and welcoming, it's taken some getting used to being from the NE we usually get suspicious when someone is really nice, LOL. It's a beautiful area. Spring has sprung here full force. It's in the low 60s now and it's supposed to be in the high 60s low 70s all week. :) The only thing that worries me about that is allergies and chemo at the same time. I have severe grass and tree allergies. At least I'll already be taking Claritin for the Neulasta shot!

  • SC_Coqui
    SC_Coqui Member Posts: 133
    edited March 2015

    Iluvcooking- we scheduled my chemo so that my worse two days fall on the weekend, Saturday and Sunday. I have the infusions scheduled for Thursday. My MO is my age and a mom to young kids as well so she was very understanding and worked with me on that.

    My schedule allows me to still manage school drop offs. The only bad thing is every other week for the next 2 months my husband will need to manage all household duties. Including dropping off our son for his weekend activities.

    It's been hard and my husband had a really rough week this past week but things are getting better.

    As a side note, the past two days my scalp has been incredibly itchy. :(

  • Trvler
    Trvler Member Posts: 3,159
    edited March 2015

    Oh, bummer on the allergies. Yes, I remember about mid to late April when the azaleas bloom there is breathtaking.

  • DavisD
    DavisD Member Posts: 338
    edited March 2015

    Welcome iluvcooking We all understood none of us want to be here but since we are we support each other in ways that our own families and friends cannot. That's all for now. I haven't been feeling well and haven't even started chemo yet! I will be back on later. I'm nesting for my port installation on 3/16 and first chemo 3/17..ha ha

    You will love the ladies on this thread and feel free to PM me if you need more support:)

  • Jackbirdie
    Jackbirdie Member Posts: 4,693
    edited March 2015

    so. Regarding hydration. It's a challenge for me to drink enough. I've never been one to carry a water bottle around with me to make sure I hydrate and once upon a time I actually thought wine and coffee counted toward fluids, not subtracted from them. I never seem to "feel" thirst, and at the end of the day no way could I even approximate the number of fluid oz. I've taken on board that day.

    I miss my cocktails sometimes. I miss a nice glass of wine too. I think as much as the relaxing feeling, I like the pomp and circumstance of social drinking.

    I recently learned that for me, a big tall glass of water looks like a job and I avoid it. But a little sumpin sumpin in one of my pretty cocktail glass is inviting. Even if non-alcoholic.

    So I just made myself something special and I'll probably have several. It's "simply berry" brand juice with ginger ale. Yum. Thought I'd share with my girls. image

  • DavisD
    DavisD Member Posts: 338
    edited March 2015

    wonderful detailed informative response Katy. Don't know what you've done careers wise but you're an amazing lady! I was diagnosed with Sjogrens in 2013. Went to Hopkins to see a specialist only to find out I may have a different but similar autoimmune disease. Long story shorter, treatment is about the same and I just got tired of being referred to endless specialists only to be sent to another. My symptoms continued to worsen and then spine issues began to surface. Two surgeries because j was in souch pain and didn't want to keep covering up what my body was trying to tell me..well anyway I started back with a decent rheumatologist and then bam BC again! I just want to know who the enemy is do I can focus my energies on the battle at hand. I fear whatever is causing my increase in pain much more than the BC. Probably shouldn't but I've always been heslthy, fit and active. I want to and will continue to fight! Thanks again and sorry for the rambling typo riddled responses from my phone ha! Hope you are feeling better:). Diane

  • Italychick
    Italychick Member Posts: 2,343
    edited March 2015

    mm Jackbirdie that looks so refreshing. It is 85 here today in San Diego at the coast, if you can believe that. I am addicted to the Tazo Passion Fruit tea, it tastes great and is a beautiful color like your drink. I make a whole pot of it and drink it iced all day long with a little bit of liquid vanilla stevia. Trying to avoid the sugar, which hasn't been easy. But day of chemo I said screw it and ate two cookies lol.

    Went for a 32 mile bike ride today, came home feeling crappy. Then realized I had no caffeine today, so I drank some, and immediately felt better. Darn caffeine! Trying to be as normal as possible for now since I have a little over a week to go for my next infusion. I'm trying not to post as much about exercise, but it is my way of feeling sane and normal. I feel so bad for women with kids, I don't know how you do it! When I was raising my kids, I was exhausted all the time just from the kids and their activities.

    So far, hair still hanging in, and it is day 12. Scalp still not pink or red, or itching or tingling. But I know it is coming, not naive. Just hoping for another weekend or week of normal I guess. Some women on this site said their hair didn't start falling out until day 21!

    To all of you having infusions this week, tell them about anything you feel. They can help. I started itching so they gave me benadryl and the itching went away in like five seconds. Don't suffer. I am one of those weirdos who actually gets hyper on benadryl so it actually made me feel better. I never take anything, not even Advil, so I figure if there is a time to take advantage of the medications, now is it.

    Xoxo to all of you. So thankful I have this group that understands the physical and mental hardships. Nobody else does. My boss even asked me if I was sure I got chemo and not a placebo lol. Another person said are you even sure you have cancer, you look too healthy. Oh yeah, I'm sure. 1.3 centimeter IDC monster taken out of my breast, I am 100% sure.


  • Jackbirdie
    Jackbirdie Member Posts: 4,693
    edited March 2015

    thank you Diane! I do feel much better today. No autoimmune is fun and they are so dang hard to dx. And then friends and family don't have a clue. I only know about Sjogrens because I follow professional tennis and Venus Williams was dxd around the same time as you. Celebrities can help or hurt a cause but at least awareness is usually raised.

    You have so much to deal with. I'm going to make up a little guest bed in my heart for you.

    As to my career, before I so famously imploded I was a CPA and worked as both auditor and controller for small to medium sized high growth companies. Never was a poorer match made between an individual personality and the demeanor required by a particular career. I was smart enough, but I was a hot mess. Nobody wants a hot mess in charge of the money hahaha. I felt like a fraud my entire working life. I have only recently been lucky enough to understand what authenticity really means.

  • Meme117
    Meme117 Member Posts: 194
    edited March 2015

    jackbirdie that drink looks amazing,love the flowers too.

    I've had a couple of stressed filled days and my chemo doesn't start till 3/23. MO called and is willing to do the regiment recommended by my BS,great, called back within 30 min. But she said "did anyone call you with cat scan results?" I was like no why? Well I need a Pet scan, anyone have this? I went and picked up copy of report as she didn't say too much about it. Now I've been a mess most of today. I think I'm going to be restaged to stage iv. I have 2 nodes in my lung, a liver cyst and some enlarged lymph nodes along the aorta. It's looking like my breast cancer has spread but I won't know for sure till results of pet scan which isn't even scheduled yet. I hate hate hate the waiting. My mind is filled with the worst and I've burst into tears numerous times. I wish I could erase these last few weeks, this breast cancer sucks!

  • Italychick
    Italychick Member Posts: 2,343
    edited March 2015

    meme117, I am so sorry. I know scans can be notorious for false positives. My Pet scan detected a node in my neck and some sinus thickening, and I said well I had a cold at the scan, and they said ok, that's what it is then. But scared the crap out of me. The liver lesion could be a hemangioma, they can't distinguish between the two on a scan. The lung nodes could be from prior infection scarring. I hope they all turn out to be non-issues. I will be thinking about you every day and sending every positive thought I have your way. Please let us know what you find out, I will be worrying about you

  • DavisD
    DavisD Member Posts: 338
    edited March 2015

    Katy-just crawled into that metaphorical guest bed and I am comforted tonight by your kindness. You are on my list of top 10 authentic humans/dogs can't help but be! I do sometimes wish I had some of Venus Williams money to hire a chef to prepare healthy meals each night when I come home from work. Ha. Italychick I don't think I thanked you for putting together that list of items to reference as I prepare to start chemo on Tuesday.you offered meme117 some great advice. I've had benign liver cysts too.I know how scared you must feel and with good reason. Waiting to hear is the toughest. I will be sending you positive thoughts all week!

  • shaz101
    shaz101 Member Posts: 718
    edited March 2015

    My hair is falling out LMAO, I guess I don't have to worry about that anymore...


  • Jackbirdie
    Jackbirdie Member Posts: 4,693
    edited March 2015

    oh Shaz.....I am sorry. Well yes, one less worry. But I know it must be hard. You are lovely from the inside out. And it will come back.

  • Jackbirdie
    Jackbirdie Member Posts: 4,693
    edited March 2015

    Meme- the waiting is the worst, but Italychick is right, there are false positives, there are reasons, and there could be bad news. And you sitting there waiting. I have you firmly in my heart and send you peace to try to navigate this latest storm. Stay off the internet. Come here and vent. Do you have any klonopin,mvalium, or anything in that family?if so, take some. Get in the bathtub. We are here for you and if you need to post the same fears 100 times in the next 24 hours, we will hear you. We will be here

  • Jackbirdie
    Jackbirdie Member Posts: 4,693
    edited March 2015

    Italychick- please do not stop posting about your wonderful bike rides and other exercise. I for one find it exciting and interesting and challenges and motivates me to do the very best I can at my own level. This is who you are. It's who you were before the beast tried to knock you down. It's who you will still be after you complete your treatment successfully

    I can only imagine the time and devotion it has taken-years- to get into and stay in the kind of physical shape you are in. We are proud you can still do iit. That you want to do it. I usually don't like to speak for others but I am quite sure your March sisters will say the same.

    None of us here should edit ourselves in any way. If we can't be genuine and authentic here, where the hell can we be?

  • Italychick
    Italychick Member Posts: 2,343
    edited March 2015

    yeah, I've noticed some strands coming out, but I have no scalp issues, so go figure. Just hope it holds together for tomorrow because I'm meeting a friend for breakfast and would like to go there with my hair.

    Diane, don't forget to take ice and hold ice chips in your mouth. I heard 15 minutes before they put the chemo in, the whole time chemo is going in, and for 15-30 minutes after. I am fortunate that I have a refrigerator that crushes ice, but I am thinking of going by Coffee Bean and seeing if I can get some of their ice for infusion no. 2. They have that old fashioned ice like the kind that used to come in sodas, the kind you like to suck the soda out of the ice out of. I took five gallon ziplocks of ice, and a couple of towels when I went. First infusion I only iced my feet, but next one I am icing hands, feet and mouth. Figure it can't hurt.

    And don't forget the cookies! Spoil yourself during treatment.

  • Jackbirdie
    Jackbirdie Member Posts: 4,693
    edited March 2015

    IC, you just reminded me my infusion nurse brought me ice packs to ice my fingertips to save my nails. I thought it was very sweet. I am putting tea tree oil on them too. I have never been much of a nail person, since I always break them in the garden, but I bought some dark nail polish to hide them if they turn black

    Gross.

  • rleepac
    rleepac Member Posts: 755
    edited March 2015

    I can't catch a #%!#%%! break!!!!

    Now my bone pain has subsided but all day long I've had bloating, belching, and epigastric pain. Kinda feels like I ate too much (but I didn't) and it hurts when I take in a deep breath. I finally called my MO and he was very reassuring that it probably just a gastritis and he wants me to take Prilosec. I told him I've already been popping Tums all day and I've had Zantac twice already today but he still said to take Prilosec. So he called in a script but DH went to get the OTC form for now since the pharm is closed. Then I was embarassed when he said "you're the PA right?" I said "Ummm yeah...come on doc, don't judge me...I'm in pain!" He got a chuckle out of that and again reassured me that he's not concerned.

    Sigh...makes me dread what tomorrow will bring. What NEW side effect will crop up now?!?

    I'm on Day 10 and my scalp is also very tingly and itchy. I did buzz it pretty short last night but I think the complete loss is only a matter of being days away. If it makes the sensitivity go away, I'm ok with that.

    Good night ladies. Sorry to be so negative but just when I get one side effect under control, a new one pops up :(

    I will get through this. 25% done with the AC cocktail. I can do this!

    Bekah

  • wpmoon
    wpmoon Member Posts: 270
    edited March 2015

    ItalyChick - thank you so much for the advice. I plan on talking to HR next week and seeing what they suggest since realistically I only need to miss one day of the class I have to attend for work and can schedule it on a day where my side effects will land on the weekend, and then I'll go from there. My performance has been great since I've started, so I'm hoping they'll work with me.

    My port, Penny, doesn't really bother me anymore. I don't even care about covering it up even though it's pretty noticeable - you can see the outline of the catheter, and I'm pretty sure you can kind of see the color, but whatever. It's no longer a big deal to me.

    It took about two weeks before I had my full range of motion back in my neck without the port being sensitive or my neck feeling stiff.

    My rash is FINALLY almost gone. I'm going to continue the antibiotics for the next few days just to be on the safe side. Pretty sure it was an allergic reaction that was delayed from the steroids. I've read that it's pretty common. I figure acne would've only been a few pimples here and there, and this was swollen, red, itchy, and had the pustules. Hopefully it doesn't happen again with the next treatment.

    Today I've been having a really good day. And I keep thinking, "Is this real? Why do I feel so good? Almost better than normal." I'm happy to feeling like myself and having normal days. So I'm spreading my good vibes and good days to all of you that have been struggling and need a boost! Take some of my positive vibes!

    HUGS! Happy weekend!

  • DavisD
    DavisD Member Posts: 338
    edited March 2015

    Good morning everyone. Italychick-I agree, please keep telling us about what you CAN do! It inspires me to not limit myself even though I'm nowhere near that fit. My daughter is a travel editor for an outdoor magazine and reading her stories about women rock climbing, kayaking, cycling etc. In my earlier life I rode horses both professionally and for pleasure. My kids would dread me running into one of my horsey friends/anyone interested in horses while shopping. They would plead "Please mom, you will NEVER stop talking if we stop!"  ha ha! Loved those days. I guess Im saying I feel your passion and you should never tamper it. Thanks for the advice about putting ice chips in your mouth but can I ask why? I understand the ice on hands and feet but not sure about the other.

    rleepac-screw that doctor! Just because you're a PA doesn't mean you don't suffer the same crap we all do! I get that when it comes to any controlled substances/I work with both seriously mentally ill and many have co occurring substance abuse disorders so I understand how much abuse is out there. However, I am very offended when I really need something I have to jump through so many hoops and often feel judged. That's why I initiated titrating off the Butrans patch. Tired of feeling judged. Now I'm the one suffering. The joint pain from the autoimmune disease is awful. Well at least I know where the pain is and I don't have to get that look. I'm sorry you're feeling so bad. My MO recommended Prilosec too since I have a hxml of GERD. Sending you my most positive thoughts.

    shaz I'm sorry for your loss. I got mine cut really short and I look like a boy! At least it won't be long stands coming out at inappropriate times. You are a beautiful person and I'm sure you'll rock any look you chose.

    Katy-yes to klonopin! I have a rx for a few I use prn. I love the idea of berry juice with ginger ale and plan to pick some up today.

    wpmoon-So glad you're doing better and embracing the good days!

    Off to Costco and a day of housework to prepare for my big week. Positive vibes and only good thoughts to you all:)

     


     

  • PrincessOfMeh
    PrincessOfMeh Member Posts: 167
    edited March 2015

    Meme, try not to panic! Something benign showed up in my salivary gland on my pet/ct, requiring a ct w/contrast and another freaking biopsy (just to be absolutely sure). So your results might be fine. One thing I've learned on my admittedly still very new journey through BC is, for my own sanity, I need to stay on the step I'm currently on and work that step as well and as hard as I can. No peeping ahead of me and definitely no looking behind me. Those areas are the curling edges of my map, marked with a THERE BE MONSTERS warning. Just can't go there. Maybe later, I'll be able to handle the broader landscape, but nope, not right now. Compartmentalizing is this girl's best friend.

    Shaz, so sorry about your hair!

    IC, I hope you'll keep posting about what all you're doing biking and whatnot. Inspires me to get up and get moving,in my own small way.

    Bekah, I'm so sorry you're dealing with another SE so quickly after your last one. I think the first treatment is the worst because we don't know what to expect, which parts of the SE buffet each of us will get and when, but maybe easier after this first treatment because we'll be able to anticipate? Hope so, anyway. Also hoping you feel better pronto!

    Day 4 of my first AC and when I expected to hit my (fatigue) wall, since this is when I go off steroids, but I'm mostly preoccupied with a rumbly tummy this morning. Not nausea. Not even constipation, though maybe the fringes of that? Just...rumbly.

  • avmom
    avmom Member Posts: 324
    edited March 2015

    good morning wishes to everyone. Meme117, I haven't had a pet scan after ct, but have had an ultrasound of my thyroid (found some nodules, deciding when to do a biopsy of one suspicious nodule) and just did an abdominal MRI on Friday to follow up on something that lit up on my liver in the ct scan. No results from the MRI yet, but I agree with you, the waiting makes you crazy. I'm doing AC infusion number two tomorrow, so that might distract me a bit.

    Shaz, I'm right behind you on the hair thing. I buzzed my head just before chemo started, and my head was covered in soft velvety stubble. It's not velvety anymore, and it has become quite patchy, with scalp shining through. One less things to worry about, indeed.

    rleepac, you are certainly having a time these past days. Hang in there, and keep working on managing the SEs as they come up.

    Thanks, wpmoon, for sharing your good day.

    I've got one good side effect to report. I've had psoriasis for many years, and in particular on the palm of my right hand. I would often lose the top layer of my palm, 2 cm across at a time, and there were deep cracks that would get better or worse, but never disappear. As psoriasis plaques are the result of immune mediated excess skin cell reproduction, I wondered if perhaps chemo would push psoriasis into remission. In my case, it seems to have done so - my right palm is free of broken skin and deep cracks for the first time in well over a decade! Now I can use hand sanitizer, and my hand is comfortable enough that I'm not consciously aware of it - a wonderfully welcome change.

    Gentle hugs to all.

  • Italychick
    Italychick Member Posts: 2,343
    edited March 2015

    Diane, on some other forums on this site, women said they iced their mouths, and it has something to do with shrinking the blood vessels so the blood flow gets constricted so not as much of the chemo agent enters the mouth area all at once. Some said it helped them with chemo mouth and mouth sores. I hated the way my mouth felt after chemo, and I am willing to try it. The feeling was like my mouth had all these rough patches and anywhere I ran my tongue felt dirty and scabby, like I hadn't brushed my teeth enough. But it was really from my tongue getting kind of burnt feeling. And my mouth tasted like burnt coffee. I think wpmoon said the same thing. So I'm not sure if there is any science behind it, but I'm willing to give it a try.

    http://www.cancer.net/navigating-cancer-care/side-...

    http://www.texasoncology.com/cancer-treatment/side...

    I don't know if those links will work, but I hope they will.


  • neverthought
    neverthought Member Posts: 90
    edited March 2015

    So grateful for these forums and everyone who participates. I'm 4 days post first TC and having a heck of a time sleeping at night. All kinds of pain in temple, back and chest. Advised not to take tylenol/advil too often as it would mask a fever. But darn pain, not sure if it's a migraine, sinus, the weather, arthritic neck or from all the meds. But really sharp pain and stupid fuzzy thinking.

    Listening to self hypnosis/relaxation cd really helps but wake up and toss and turn the rest of the night.

    Does anyone take Claritin for pain? Anything else that works at night?

    1 hour post post developed hives at site of Neulasta shot so taking Claritin in any case. Anyone developed hives? What next?

  • Meme117
    Meme117 Member Posts: 194
    edited March 2015

    Tthanks girls for all the positivities! I feel better today just came to the conclusion it is what it is and I'll deal with it when/if it happens. Thanks Princess, I am now gonna stay focused on the present step.

    I'm sorry for each of you suffering with the SEs. Hugs out to you💓 which reminds me I need my chemo bag put together.

    I'm nervous for the port operation, any info to calm me? I've never had surgery,only in hospital for birth of my son and did that au natural.

    Gonna go get my Irish jig on - here's to a wonderful day for each of you!!

  • Alicethecat
    Alicethecat Member Posts: 535
    edited March 2015

    Good luck ladies!

    Three years ago I was sitting where you're sitting. It seems to have worked for me and I hope it will for you too!

    Best wishes

    Alice

  • Jackbirdie
    Jackbirdie Member Posts: 4,693
    edited March 2015

    Rleepac- feeling any better today? Thinking of you.

    Thinking of you too, Meme. Have been all night. Glad you found a little black box to put the worries in till later. They'll try to get out, but you just slam the lid right down on them. The port. I worried too, maybe even more than the surgery, but it was totally doable. They'll take you back to pre-surgery, and people will be with you, talking to you, taking your vitals, explaining again what will happen. They will take very good care of you. If you are nervous tell them. These days they usually use what they sometimes refer to as "twilight sleep". It carries less risk than general anesthesia, and you may remember bits and pieces of what goes on, but you will not hurt and you will not care. You may experience tenderness, bruising, and awkwardness in the entire clavicle area for a day or two, possibly up to a week or more. They all told me in there that my port would become my friend. Since you can have blood drawn out of your port, as well as putting stuff in, it will save your veins. During chemo, they take your blood even during off chemo weeks, to monitor the whites, the liver, other stuff. Without the port, our veins would would be very messed up by the end of treatment.

    I think you'll do well with the procedure. Get working on your chemo bag! Have some fun with it. Mine reminds me of Mary Poppins' nanny bag where more stuff, great stuff, comes out than ever went in!


  • Jackbirdie
    Jackbirdie Member Posts: 4,693
    edited March 2015

    Thank you Alice! Wonderful of you to make a cameo appearance for us

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