Was told this evening I have IDC

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Cmo65
Cmo65 Member Posts: 96
edited March 2015 in Just Diagnosed

The imaging center nurse called me at 5pm (at my request) to tell me the results of my biopsy.  She said I had invasive ductal carcinoma, Grade 1. Also, Estrogen, Progesterone and HER2 positive.  I don't know what any of those things mean.  My biopsy measured the mass at 8mm x 7mm x 8mm, and ultrasound showed lymph nodes normal. 

I feel stunned like I'm sure all of you have felt.  First person in my family to have breast cancer, so it seems unreal.  I'm 49.  I have no lump, but I have had breast pain.  Not horrible breast pain, just a tender sensation from time to time that I associated with my period. 

I guess I will call my doctor in the morning and talk with him about what happens next, though it is such a blessing to have the resources of this site and all the feedback and experiences of each of you.

I feel sad, but not afraid. I also feel like "how fast can I have surgery!?" And, I'm sure everyone must feel that same way.  Any advice is appreciated.  You know what is funny? I have been making steps to become a volunteer for cancer patients, never dreaming I'd be one. How's that for irony?!

My name is Christine.

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  • angelia50
    angelia50 Member Posts: 381
    edited March 2015

    you are doing much better than I was at this point. I was more afraid than sad. Have to say, I still feel afraid. I am also IDC grade 1 but I am not HER positive. You'll know more after your surgery. Keep strong, ask plenty of questions.

  • Cmo65
    Cmo65 Member Posts: 96
    edited March 2015

    I'm confused about something: I read HER2+ is fast growing and yet I'm at a Grade1? Would that mean the cancer is early stage?

  • littleblueflowers
    littleblueflowers Member Posts: 2,000
    edited March 2015

    high Christine! I was diagnosed Saturday and just got out of surgery today. I opted for a double mastectomy. I was sad to lose my boobs too....infact cried about it a little. Just remember we are all here for you! For me it was helpful to not have too much time to think. You should do whatever will give you most peace of mind. Hugs!

  • Cmo65
    Cmo65 Member Posts: 96
    edited March 2015

    Thanks, ladies. Littleblue, wow, talk about moving fast! That's what I'm hoping for. I have no problem with double mastectomy though I'd like reconstruction. I guess I won't know what I can do until I speak w the doctors. Mostly I'm worried about that HER2+. I really need info on that

  • Beachbum1023
    Beachbum1023 Member Posts: 1,417
    edited March 2015

    Hi Cmo65, welcome to our club, you will find plenty of info here and lots of support 24/7. Look through all of the threads here, the info is real time, sometimes hours old! And the info is correct and so honest. Stay away from Dr. Google, the info is usually outdated and incorrect or just plain wrong. Having a positive proactive attitude will serve you well.

    I do not have any history of breast cancer or any cancer in my family. So stunned would be correct. But I have a great care team, and my treatment has moved along quickly. Keep a notebook handy to write down questions for your Doctors, the information will come at you fast and non-stop. If you have someone to take to your appointments to help keep notes, that can be helpful. Some record it on their smartphones. Ask questions here, we have all been there, so you will find answers for all of your questions. And we have hints and tips for just about anything! The women here are amazing!

    You will feel better when you have all of the info, have a care team in place, and get started with treatments. The American Cancer Society has a great website, and they can be helpful. They have a lot of resources to help navigate treatment, find resources, and they offer some great programs along the way.

    Please visit here often, and let us all know what we can do to help. There are a lot of threads to follow, to laugh, to cry, and rant and compare. But remember here you are never alone, we all walk as one! Welcome! Cheryl

  • Meme117
    Meme117 Member Posts: 194
    edited March 2015

    Hi Cmo65, sorry to see you have to join this club. I'm almost identical. 49 with no family history. My tumor is just over 2 cm so puts me at stage 2. It's been almost 2 weeks and the reality of my "new" life is just setting in. Each day brings new info and new doctors. The major shock for me is the need for chemo and all the lovely side effects, this being due to her+. I have found this site the bestest for info and support, I'm all about being prepared. Hugs to you!

  • Moderators
    Moderators Member Posts: 25,912
    edited March 2015

    Hi Cmo65,

    You might also like to join the Triple Positive Group over in the HER2 Positive Breast Cancer Forum.

    Best of luck on your journey ahead

    ((( Hugs )))


  • Annie88
    Annie88 Member Posts: 196
    edited March 2015

    Christine- so sorry about your news/ diagnosis. It is a hard pill to swallow! Like you, I have no family history of BC, as I have found many others like this. You have come to a great place for support! There are many caring people here, many have walked the same path. It will give you hope to hear so many stories of survival. As you move through your treatment remember to be strong, but cry when you need to. I have definitely done my share of crying in the last 6 months. Two weeks ago I finished radiation, which I look at as another milestone. There are many milestones during BC. I would say you just had your first one. Best of luck on your journey

  • Cmo65
    Cmo65 Member Posts: 96
    edited March 2015


    So in my shock yesterday I recorded some incorrect information.  I was told this morning that I am IDC, Grade 1, ER+, PR+ and HER2-.  Yesterday I thought I was triple positive.  I am under the impression that HER2 negative is the better of the two evils?  Is that right?

    Thank you all for you input and kindness.

    Christine

  • WinningSoFar
    WinningSoFar Member Posts: 951
    edited March 2015

    Dear Christine,

    Being her negative is both good and bad. It's good statistically, but bad you can't benefit from a drug that blocks her2. Mixed bag.


  • scvmom65
    scvmom65 Member Posts: 88
    edited March 2015

    Hi Christine,

    Sorry for your dx. I am like you er+ pr+ her- ,that information is what the doctor is going to use for your treatment to prevent a reoccurence after your surgery. You really do not have all the information though until after your surgery and everything comes back from pathology so from the information you have now you will probably be put on tamoxifen or told to remove your ovaries to reduce your reoccurence if you are premenopausal, or put on a different hormone lowering drug if you are postmenopausal. You can think of that information is a positive way - if you know what fuels the fire, then you know what the fuel is to cut the fire off. I found it helpful to have someone with me at my appointments or have someone pick up another phone in the house when my doctor called (if someone was home) to help me process things correctly. I think our brains are in shock at the time. Best of luck to you!

  • DocBabs
    DocBabs Member Posts: 775
    edited March 2015

    Hi Christine, I had the same diagnosis 4 years ago next month. I had MBX with reconstruction and I have to say that it wasn't nearly as bad as I had been imagining. I woke up in the recovery room with 2 somewhat deflated breasts and nipples intact. I had received 300 ccs of saline in my expanders so that's why my breasts looked deflated, considerably smaller than my original girls. I was node negative and my onco score was 15 ,low, so no chemo needed. I was on oral meds for about year but couldn't stand the idea effects. I'm on nothing now. My life is happily back to normal with an occasional doctors visit thrown in a couple of times a year. I know a lot of what I've just told you will have little meaning at this point but you will very quickly catch on to the lingo. My point is, it's not the end of your life. You're going to be kept quite busy for the next few months but then it will stop and you'll wonder what the hell I was so worried about!!

    If you have someone that can go with you to your future appointments that will be of great benefit to you. I did this for a friend of mine who was diagnosed in December and it's amazing what she DIDN'T hear at each visit.Take time to breath .,Don't rush your thoughts too far into the future, you'll miss today.

    Good luck and let us know how you make out. Feel free to ask me or anyone else here any questions that enter your mind.

    Barbara

  • Cmo65
    Cmo65 Member Posts: 96
    edited March 2015

    Thank you, Doc, for sharing. I was reading another gal's post who is full of anxiety and that's where I am.

    I go in for another mammo tomorrow to check the titanium clip but also because I have a small mass ( close to the already diagnosed mass ) the doctor wants to look at. I assume it is also cancer since the first one was. It is 9mm and the doctor stated she was less concerned about it than the first one. Not sure if she is going to biopsy it or not though since I am scheduled to see the surgeon Thursday morning to schedule surgery. The reason the 2nd mass wasn't biopsied when the first one was is because she hit a vein and it bled enough she needed to apply pressure. When they looked on ultrasound for the 2nd mass, they had manipulated the breast tissue too much and couldn't find it.

    At any rate, I'm a hot mess. Scared they will tell me I'm metastasized. My only symptom was a deep achy pain sensation in my right breast that I assumed was hormonal since it came and went. Oh, no... It's cancer! My fear stems from I have that same niggling achy pain below that same breast so I've worried myself that it's metastasized! Especially now that I know any size mass can spread.

    See, I'm a hot mess!

    Christine

  • Annie88
    Annie88 Member Posts: 196
    edited March 2015

    It is overwhelming at first, as you feel an urgency to get the cancer out! Like you, I had Pain that radiated from my left breast down my arm. I did find a lump where the pain was coming from. I did have a biopsy, but later was referred by the BS to have a 3D mammo and an MRI. At that time there was difficulty seeing things, due to dense tissue, however there were some micro calcifications. I had another biopsy- mammogram assisted. Luckily the second biopsy didn't result in anything of importance. During the early stage it helped me to exercise to keep my mind off of BC. I would agree with Barbara that taking a friend or family member is good support, as well as a second set of ears. My BS met w/ my mom, mother in law and myself to discuss the plan. Afterwards he gave me a CD with the recordings of the meetings and handouts with illustrations and information. I was so very lucky to find a great BS and MO, as it makes a difference. Hang in there!

  • mel147
    mel147 Member Posts: 479
    edited March 2015

    Christine - Sending you good thoughts and virtual hugs! I hope you will be able to take a few deep breaths and try to focus on taking things one step at a time. It's such a tough situation to be in, and it is scary, but as you get more information and come up with a plan of action I hope you will feel stronger. You can do this!! You can get through it one step at a time, one appointment at a time!! Try not to let your mind jump ahead of where you are at now. It is great that you are already scheduled to meet with the surgeon on Thursday. I hope he/she will answer all of your questions and help you come up with a good plan of action. If you do an online search, there are some lists of questions to ask your surgeon, both on this website and some other breast cancer ones. Ask as many questions as you need to! Hang in there and take care!

  • Loulee
    Loulee Member Posts: 26
    edited March 2015

    Christine ,

    We have all been there , the anxiety , fear and confusion !!

    Once it sinks in , you will be fine ! My advice to you is to read a lot and know all of your options .This place is the right place to be for information and support !

    I had a lump of 2.5 cm and a lymph node involvement , my lymph node enlargement was 3 cm and my BS was sure before the biopsy that it was cancer !! I felt my lump my self and the kind i have ( lobular carcinoma ) does not make lumps and hard to detect without MRI !!

    You think you are a mess !! But this is the kind of thing that not only makes you stronger , but BOLDER !

    Believe it to beat it .

    Lina

  • CatsRus
    CatsRus Member Posts: 310
    edited March 2015

    I too send you good thoughts Christine. I found out today that I have IDC after being told on Friday it was DCIS. I am having surgery (MX) on Thursday. It's scary and my stomach has been in knots since Friday, well actually since last Tuesday really when I had the biopsy. Surgeon has suggested I may be stage 1 or low 2, but I won't get the final DX until the pathology reports are received after the surgery. So more stomach knots until that comes in. Only been on this site for a few hours but it's already helped enormously. I find it much easier to express myself in type whereas I get to emotional if I verbalize things. Luckily I can talk to my DH though.

  • Cmo65
    Cmo65 Member Posts: 96
    edited March 2015

    Catsrus, I wish you peace and good surgery results. And all you ladies, thank you for reaching out to me and sharing. It is a comfort.

    Can I ask this question: I know everyone's treatment is different but is this stuff forever? Does treatment typically end? Everything I read just sounds like it never ends.

    Christine

  • CatsRus
    CatsRus Member Posts: 310
    edited March 2015

    Oh Christine, good question.... been thinking about that myself. It's like when I first went to Weight Watchers many many years ago and they said "this isn't a diet, it's a way of life" and I wanted to yell...no! you don't understand... I want to lose weight and then go back to eating whatever I want when I want like I always did (I was very thin until my 30's). Took a while for the truth to sink in. I have a feeling that even if my treatment eventually ends, BC will be with me forever.... I'd like to be wrong, I'd like to just say one day and hopefully soon, okay that's it done, beat it... it's over..... but....

    I'm still finding my way around this site, but I believe there is a section on Beyond Cancer, maybe we should take a look at that.

    Looking forward to hearing how others answer Christine's question.

  • florida2015
    florida2015 Member Posts: 186
    edited March 2015
  • Annie88
    Annie88 Member Posts: 196
    edited March 2015

    Hi Florida!

    Christine- I can only say that for me the last 6 months has been all about BC. It would be interesting to hear from someone a little further out. I try to not focus too much, as my kids are 10 and 14. They need to not be children, not children w/ a BC mom. I know it scares them, because it is scary.

  • Holeinone
    Holeinone Member Posts: 2,478
    edited March 2015

    Christine, it's a roller coaster of a ride, with nausea. You want OFF !

    Bottom line, you don't know the whole story until they get it there & remove it. If you have no Cancer in the nodes, you might not need chemo. Did they do a punch biopsy of your sentinel node? I went into surgery believing I had just one node malignant, came out with a enormous mass in the axillary nodes.

    Some ladies have one node with Cancer cells in it & skip chemo. Radiation is long, generally 5 times a week for 6 weeks. For me it was easy. Chemo was not.

    One day at a time. Keep busy, that seems to help. My house was never cleaner than when I was waiting for all the appts. in the beginning. Oh, your ? About does this ever end ? I was dx almost 2 years ago. ( July 2013 ) . I take Arimidex, it is a aromatase inhibitor. Almost all ladies take something for 5 years, some for 10. I don't know about triple negative. If you need chemo, depending on how many doses, it is a solid 9-10 months process. Some ladies get "chemo light". 4 doses of a gentler version. Having reconstruction can be a very lengthy process. I had a lumpectomy, much easier, supposedly the statistics are the same.

    I suggest being selfish. This is the time of your life to make yourself # 1. Your Cancer is small, grade 1 is good. Try not to over analyze how this happen. Cancer is random, most of us dwell on it. When I think of young kids that are dx with various cancers, it makes no sense. Bad luck, random.

  • Wren44
    Wren44 Member Posts: 8,585
    edited March 2015

    I'm 3 years out and it does get better and better. I think there will always be some fear of recurrence, but it's not something I think about very often. I have made more room in my life to do things that are important to me, like taking art lessons. There are wonderful people on this site who are sharing this experience, offering love and support. There is even a thread about getting ready for surgery which will help you prepare for recovery afterwards. Welcome.

  • TxFreckles
    TxFreckles Member Posts: 12
    edited March 2015

    March 10, 2015

    I was called today and given the diagnosis of IDC, right side lump of the right breast. have an appointment with the surgeon tomorrow, to discuss all the rest. Making sure I take my note pad in to get everything written down. I have several questions written that have come to mind, see if they get answered by his information. if not covered I will still ask. I am experiencing "a couple of wobbly knees" right now. I will not cry...don't have enough information yet. Of course my hubby knows and we have prayed. I don't want tears when I tell the married children and families....I really dread it....I have read some of your posts about family reactions.

    Glad I was able to find a support group, my first night of researching the new world that I am coming into,


     

  • CatsRus
    CatsRus Member Posts: 310
    edited March 2015

    Welcome TxFreckles but sorry you have to be here. I just joined yesterday, I got on the roller coaster on Friday. I have surgery tomorrow. I took my husband and a notepad with me when I saw the surgeon yesterday. I also recorded it on my iPad. I haven't had to listen to it yet though, the surgeon really took her time and made sure it was all clear and sinking in with me. I have adult daughters who don't live in the same city. One is far away. The worry of having to tell them was the worst! I finally did tell them on Monday...very hard but they seem to be doing okay. Bit more worried about the one who is far away though..... My stomach has been in constant knots, but I found this forum very helpful and that it helped calm me somewhat. I am finding it easier to type about my feelings here than actually talk about them.

  • Annie88
    Annie88 Member Posts: 196
    edited March 2015

    Wren- I am so glad to hear from someone that is a few years out. Now that I am past RT things are getting back to resemble my old life

    TXFreckles-sorry that you have to join this club, but you have come to a great place for support. Once you get more information about your diagnosis then you will have more of a plan. The first few months of everything go by fast. I agree with the others that self care and doing things that are of interest are especially important during this time. At first I didn't tell my children, as they are younger, but I did when I knew more of what was ahead. My youngest cried and hugged me extra tight. My older child talks more about the treatments. He has questions about the details. We live in a small community and I haven't openly shared, as I feel my children do not need to have a constant reminder from people offering sympathy. I feel like cancer has pulled the rug out on their security, but it has made us appreciate everything more.it definitely has been a life lesson to us all. We love each other and our time together that much more.

    CatsRus-stay strong! Support from your family will be everything after your surgery! I will be thinking of you. Virtual hugs as I know this is so hard! Rest and take care of yourself

  • TxFreckles
    TxFreckles Member Posts: 12
    edited March 2015

    Thank you CatsRus and Annie88 for your posts. Had my notepad ready, thank you for the tip about recording it on my phone.

    My daughter in her family are living in Scotland, I really am concerned when I tell them. My oldest son and family live just a couple of miles away. My middle son lives about 1.5 hours away.

    Again, thank you...Cat the very best during your surgery and recovery. Prayers. Thank you Annie88. ..I appreciate what you both have shared.

    Going to get up and have my coffee and figure out this crochet project I am working on. Smiles and hugs.



  • Trvler
    Trvler Member Posts: 3,159
    edited March 2015

    With that small of a tumor and no node involvement, they will likely recommend a lx and rads. Depending on how high your ER and PR, you will be prescribed hormone blockers AKA Tamoxifen. You might want to read up on that. I would doubt you are looking at chemo. Try to hang in there. Your dx is not bad. ( I mean yes, cancer is bad) But you are VERY early.

    I think a lot of women immediately want to go for the mx thinking that gives them a much better outcome but studies show equal outcomes when there is no node involvement. You don't HAVE to have a mx. (Of course you have to talk to your doctor first).

  • Cmo65
    Cmo65 Member Posts: 96
    edited March 2015

    Thank you everyone.  Trvler, I hope you're right.  I'm so afraid of metastasis that I'm consumed with it.  I have pains and aches and twitches and you name it in every part of my body.  Yes, I know what anxiety can do to your body, but right now I'm just torturing myself about metastasis.  Did you all go through that, or am I just a moron buying trouble needlessly?  It really is my only fear. 

    Someone say: "Get a grip, Christine!" Haha

    Freckles, good wishes for you. Way to keep it together.  Use me as an example of how NOT to act! haha 

  • Trvler
    Trvler Member Posts: 3,159
    edited March 2015

    You are not a moron. You are normal person reacting to a fear. When you get more information, you will feel better. I am going to go out on a limb and say that with the information you have provided, it is very unlikely to have metastasized. I would encourage you NOT to rush into surgery, especially a mx. More likely than not, you have time. I think many women who could easily have a lx do that and then later regret it. Have you read any of the threads about making a decision about lx vs mx? As an example, my tumor is 3 cm. I asked my doctor if I could wait until early April to have surgery because we had plans for spring break. He said yes. As you read on here, you will see that your tumor is relatively small. Also, notice the people's signatures and see what treatments people who have your same diagnosis are getting. That should help you know a little about what to expect.

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