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  • PMR53
    PMR53 Member Posts: 452
    edited March 2015

    I am thinking about you all and reading your posts. SweetHope I cannot believe you have not gotten your results. I would be upset too. No reason for this delay. Not in this day and age. I was so frustrated earlier in the week when I tried to talk to my MO. No return call from nurse or doctor.

    Out of the nausea stage. Just tired and emotional this last round. I get tired fast and have no reserve. Ultrasound Monday to see if chemo has done it work. Prayers for shrinkage.

    Mommacat. I am glad to hear your family is doing better. Everyday for us on chemo is hard enough as we deal with our side effects and our emotions.

    Brandi I agree about the chemo. As a nurse, I cringe when I think of the toxic effects of this chemo. It scares me, but yet I know I have to get through it. I appreciate your candor.

    Here's something to make you laugh, my big thing today is washing my wig. Lol. Scared to hurt it. Mainly it will have to be off my head for a few hours. I look in the mirror and realize I look a bit like my Uncle Doug. Man I miss my hair. It's cold without it. I know for a fact I will never complain of a bad hair day again.

    Love and light to all. We are moving forward but not without our struggles. I realized yesterday as I was working hard to help my sister ( she decided to de-hoard her closet) I forgot about my troubles. It was a good day.

    Patty

  • mommacat4
    mommacat4 Member Posts: 215
    edited March 2015

    lisaj514, thank you for your support and ice pack info. I will start Taxol on Wednesday. I am not looking forward to it but I can't wait to finish my chemo.

    SweetHope, I am sorry about the lack if result. I hope you can get treatment on Monday.

    Bpgas, good luck with making the right surgery decision for you. For me it wasn't really a difficult decision as my tumor was 7.5cm and I had a whole bunch of smaller spots just waiting to explode into cancer all in the same breast. I knew that one had to go. I was larger breasted and to reduce future issues on the other side I chose to have a bmx. Besides, I have wanted a reduction for many years, just couldn't afford it and couldn't see spending the money I didn't have. Now my insurance will pay for it. 😆

    well, I am off to Tuscan. Have a great day ladies.

  • Beachbum1023
    Beachbum1023 Member Posts: 1,417
    edited March 2015

    Hi PMR53, I laughed about your hair washing dilemma! I have a real hair wig, and she behaves like real hair! Uh her name is McKenzie, but not too sure whose head she came from. But I have been wearing her since the second week of August. I wash, protein, and condition her once a week. I do a light blow dry, and flat iron her in the morning and good to go. I thought the hair was going to be oh so awful, but during chemo I loved my wig because I didn't have to fuss with hair every day. Now my hair is growing back, over a inch long, and I have no clue what to do. The nurses asked me why I was still wearing my wig over my hair, I like to be a blonde!

    I lost my eyebrows and eye lashes on Taxol, but they grew back really long and thick, so I guess a bonus. I take Biotin OTC and it seems to be working for me. My nails are pretty now too. The Taxol was much easier for me.

    I do have a question - after not shaving my legs for so long, now the hair is growing back on my legs and I have to shave every day. I was hoping it would slow down :) Anybody else have leg hair growing back really fast? I feel like I have ape legs, right before summer! And the moustache.......grrr

  • jlstacey
    jlstacey Member Posts: 277
    edited March 2015

    mousrach? We have that to look forward to

  • jlstacey
    jlstacey Member Posts: 277
    edited March 2015

    Moustache? We have that to look forward to?

  • Beachbum1023
    Beachbum1023 Member Posts: 1,417
    edited March 2015

    jlstacey, yep it is right above the wild chin hairs! WTH?

  • PMR53
    PMR53 Member Posts: 452
    edited March 2015

    BeachBum

    I love your wigs name McKenzie. Human Hair Wigs are amazing. I often wonder whose head it came from. I thank them! I do love mine and will be wearing it for many months. I don't wash it every week though. As soon as I am done with chemo I will start Biotin OTC. It seems like many ladies have taken it with good success.!

    Sorry about your hairy legs. That is funny! Maybe the Biotin? Have a great day!!

    Patty

  • Beachbum1023
    Beachbum1023 Member Posts: 1,417
    edited March 2015

    PMR - Thanks! The Biotin is great and super cheap. Drug Mart always has a BOGO sale and I stock up. Maybe it grows hair too good :)

  • jlstacey
    jlstacey Member Posts: 277
    edited March 2015

    About 50-60% of my hair is gone - I have loads of stubble. My leg hair is mostly gone. Underarm hair is gone. I have lost other hair too- ahem. But it sounds like We are allgoing to have hair coming back funky places. Arghhhh

  • Beachbum1023
    Beachbum1023 Member Posts: 1,417
    edited March 2015

    My fuzzy friends, sometimes we just have to laugh! But I have read some very creative ways to remove the stubble, lint rollers and Duck Tape! And since my mastectomy, my armpit hairs have moved, some to my arm and some to my side, and a few left in the armpit. WTH? Was that in the fine print that I didn't read? Oh geeze, small price to pay I guess. Have a great weekend.

  • jlstacey
    jlstacey Member Posts: 277
    edited March 2015

    Oh- I was lint rollering my head several times a day for two weeks.

  • mommacat4
    mommacat4 Member Posts: 215
    edited March 2015

    wow. This conversation has gotten hilarious but so real.

    I was wondering about the facial wiskers. I was getting them befor my cancer dx. I haven't had to worry about them since chemo but afterwards? Is that going to be more of a problem? I sure hope not. I guess my concern is mainly because of upcoming forced menopause. I am supposed to take a pill for the next 10 years which will send me into menopause faster than my normal bodily cycle. I can't remember the name of the pill. I am 44 years old and still pre-menopsal with only a few symptoms here and there of menopause.

  • Beachbum1023
    Beachbum1023 Member Posts: 1,417
    edited March 2015

    Hi mommacat4, well whatever was going on before chemo, not so much after it. I now know the meaning of new normal. All of the old normal is gone. But most of the lost parts are coming back. Ugh.

  • dstar
    dstar Member Posts: 72
    edited March 2015

    Hello again to everyone,

    Don't be afraid of last AC treatment, it feels really REALLY good to know that there are no more treatments, less stress seems to mean less SE for me. Tired, very light nausea, spacey, nothing really tough. Treatment #3 I got a low grade fever, slept for almost 3 days straight, just up to drink, eat, walk Otis and pee. then more sleep, I felt like cement. I looked like cement.

    My onco nurse cried last Thursday because of all the SE I reported when she was asking questions and taking notes. She said AC is the toughest regime that they do at the clinic. I said, I am so glad to be moving through it and out of it. Like many of you, I take all my energy to try and heal or at least cope, anger seems so counter-productive, sometimes brought on by steroid but I try not to enter into with intent. But I am very clear with people. I say, "I need you to tell me what you are actually going to do because I am too sick to interpret or enter into any sort of cloudy or chaotic decision space with you. Whatever you do is fine, just be clear, let me know, and show up if you say you will" If people cannot do this, I have walk away from them for now. Not forever, just for now. got no time for ill-communication. exhausting.

    I am still scared sometimes. I have the possible metastatic spread to a spot on my rib, I was approved for the BRAC1 & 2 test next infusion. The results will guide decisions about keeping my right breast and ovaries. I WANT my ovaries. But what will be will be. More scans after chemo, we shall see. I am cautiously optimistic.

    To answer your question, SweetHope, I have Taxol regular dose for 12 weeks. My onco says (and I read here in an article too) that single dose causes fewer SE with no loss of efficacy of the chemo. Same bang for the buck. But I don't know, still lots of SE outlined in my chemo teach. I am not happy about the huge dose of steroids in the IV. Sigh. I am hopeful it will be easier, but I have a wait and see approach. Hope you hear back about your heart, sweet lady. That is just freakin hard.

    My nurse did an mental health evaluation: one question she asked was "how do you feel about your diagnosis now?" I said well I feel that this damn AC better work! But then I said, hey I am making plans for the future, simple things, a container garden for my sun porch, going to cancer yoga on Fridays, having friends visit, celebrating the end of chemo with my father and family/friends on his 80th birthday at the end of June (that made him happy!) Planning projects when I can return to work full time. Traveling around in the fall with my aunt, to the mountains, to the Orcas islands, then visiting friends in L.A and Albuquerque. So I said, I guess I am felling optimistic, like this treatment will end and I will heal and move forward with my life, whatever my new self is like. I still don't know if I have fully accepted that I have cancer. Seems like a long process, a long way home, but each step brings me closer. I would say that I am not a religious person, but I believe we all live in the light and love of god, of the holy spirit. May that light and love enfold all of you, and hold you, especially those that are fighting battles on multiple fronts, and give you strength and peace of mind. I pray a lot and lay my troubles down.

    Well, I have written a short novel so GOOD Night. Fight cancer like a girl y'all!!!

  • SweetHope
    SweetHope Member Posts: 439
    edited March 2015

    Thanks for the kind words and support. Ya'll are crazy fun.

    Cubbieblue, I'm glad you got a quick response to your SEs. The quick weight gain within a week is also a signal of heart failure. Did they do an Echo? Congrats on last CT on Tuesday. Don't forget us when you move onto Rads ;0)

    Having these extra days between infusions has given me more energy. I walked up a hill yesterday...still out of breath and lightheaded, but I did it. Hopefully, this is a sign that it is just chemo fatigue and nothing more.

    Dstar, Wow! Love your answer on that evaluation. What a great end to your "short novel". But, don't be unhappy about those steroids. They are important to help your body with the shock of the AC.

    Hope to give you all good news on Monday. XOXO

  • dstar
    dstar Member Posts: 72
    edited March 2015

    Also, Marjo, thanks for the big welcome back. That just made me feel REALLY good! All right, going down to make some scrambled soft eggs for brekkies with little organic tater tots on the side and a banana. It's my electrolyte delivery system of salt and potassium when I am drinking water like mad.

    Have a good Sunday all!

  • Butterfly53
    Butterfly53 Member Posts: 23
    edited March 2015

    hi Beachbum, I am 12 days out from Taxol. When did your eyebrows and eyelashes start growing back in after Taxol? I will get the Biotin OTC. Thanks for the tip.

  • Beachbum1023
    Beachbum1023 Member Posts: 1,417
    edited March 2015

    Hey butterfly, my eyebrows and eyelashes started to grow back about a week or two after they fell out. My hair started to grow back after the first Taxol. Biotin works!

    If you haven't heard of the Look Good Feel Better class, I suggest that you go. It is on the American Cancer Society website. I had a great time, and they show you how to do make up and you get to take all of the make up home. The make up kit is very nice. Just call and register, it is free. Take Care!

  • Butterfly53
    Butterfly53 Member Posts: 23
    edited March 2015

    Thanks Beachbum! I am going to that site right now! Thanks for the great advice! Hugs to you.


  • stillstruggling
    stillstruggling Member Posts: 33
    edited March 2015

    Hello Ladies. I was just reading about herceptin. I am scheduled to start it after my chemo ends on April 27. I know it will throw me into menopause, but I didn't know it was an infusion and that my port will have to remain in. I hate my port. I was planning an: I finished chemo trip with my family to New York City in November. Do I need to do anything or have any special paperwork to get through airport security? Has anyone been on herceptin before? Are there side effects?

  • Beachbum1023
    Beachbum1023 Member Posts: 1,417
    edited March 2015

    Hi stillstruggling, go to chemocare.com and look at Drug Information. All of the drugs are listed in alphabetical order. Read Herceptin. My friend was on it for 12 months, just finished. She seemed to do really well, and her hair is now about 8 to 10 inches long, maybe longer. She still has her port as her Doctor won't allow them to come out before the 24 month mark. Also if Lymphedema is a problem, you may want a sleeve to wear on the flight. But consult with your BS if you had surgery. I hope you feel better and have a great time!

  • Tennisfan
    Tennisfan Member Posts: 114
    edited March 2015

    Dear Stillstruggling, I am scheduled to start Herceptin for a year starting on April 10. I may have gotten this wrong and will double check when I get to my last AC on the 20th but my understanding is that I will get the first Herceptin through IV with Taxol then after the first three months I will choose between coming to the onco clinic to get a Herceptin shot or they recommend I just learn how to self-administer like diabetics do, every three weeks for balance of year. I may also be wrong but understood that I would likely not experience any side effects... So thanks for raising that point, I will enquire but also would like to hear anything that comes your way. Off I go to the threads to see if there is one...

    Have a nice week eveone with a special thought fot Sweethope.

    Marjo

    P.s. Colourpurple aka Kristin, please report to base? Tambeth please show vital signs...

  • SweetHope
    SweetHope Member Posts: 439
    edited March 2015

    Beachbum, I am going to keep my fingers crossed for your Echo on Thursday. When is your Cardio appointment?

    Marjo, I think of you often...usually worrying about you on that germy subway. I'm curious about Kristen, too.

    It was such a beautiful weekend. I walked Saturday and spent as much time as I could outside on Sunday. I overdid it doing some raking, trying to up my metabolism. All I managed to do was bloat adding three more pounds of water! I hate to be disgusting, but I woke up during the night with the taste of vomit in my mouth. WTH? I haven't read about that SE yet.

    I want to apologize for the drama over waiting for this report. If it comes back normal, I doubly apologize. If it comes back showing damage, I apologize for giving you AC takers something more to worry about.

    I'm jumping in the shower and repacking my chemo bag so I can be ready for that phone call. I know you all are pulling for me, because I am pulling for you. XXOXXO

  • Beachbum1023
    Beachbum1023 Member Posts: 1,417
    edited March 2015

    Hi SweetHope, I have my ECHO at 2:30 and the Cardiologist at 3:30 on Thursday. I also have my last rads that day. They have to schedule the time yet. Hopefully it will be a good day times 3!

    I hope you are packed and ready to go, and the phone rings! I wish you the best!

    Cheryl

  • loriekg
    loriekg Member Posts: 263
    edited March 2015

    Stillstruggling—hope your side effects be light next week so you can have some fun with your son over Spring Break! How old is your son? We have the opposite problem with our wigs…if mine is OFF that's an anxiety trigger! LOL

    LCH033--I go to the Texas Oncology Grapevine location. Let's hope the icy days are over for us! Maybe somebody already answered this, but I think the nail polish is to hide any dark spots that may appear on your nails. I got myself some Nail Envy by Opi (recommended here) which is a nail strengthener and it is working well. I can't imagine our nails just falling off!

    SweetHope—you have no reason to apologize, and every reason to be upset not getting the call in a timely fashion! I was furious FOR you! I am hoping you are getting your infusion right NOW!

    --Lorie

  • LCH033
    LCH033 Member Posts: 83
    edited March 2015

    Hi Ladies,

    Tennisfan and Stillstruggling; I start my Herceptin with my first Taxol; which I don't have a date yet as I suppose it's more "let's get through the 4th round of AC); however I was told the port will stay in for the full 12 months of the Herceptin infusions; I only have 12 weekly infusions of the Taxol and then I start radiation.

    Also, stillstruggling; I have a shot the day after my AC chemo, I go in and they give me more fluids and stuff as well as I am one of those that no matter how much I drink I get dehydrated.

    I have a question ladies.....Do you also get the N shot after each Taxol? Or does it stop after you finish the AC?

    And I have a concern.....my tumors were at 3, 6, and 9 o'clock on my left side; I had a double mastectomy and then a lat flap on the left side. With the location of the tumors; should I be worried about heart tissue damage from the radiation? I know it's a ways off however I thought about it the other day as I will have 5 weeks of rads M-F.....just a little concerned.

    Also, what's the difference between "dense dose" and weekly dose Taxol? Or is there a difference?

    jlstacey; thinking about you this week with Chemo #4; praying few SE's and fast recovery....my round 4 is next Thursday; 4th and last!! Yay!!

    Sweethope...I am praying for you and that you get word from the echo very soon; the waiting is torture and I remember reading a post earlier saying how we remember the day when no news was good news and waiting for a test results call wasn't such a big deal; now one call can alter your life and is so hard....I am one that likes to be in control too and this has/is teaching me, none of this is in my control; and what will be will be....doesn't make it any easier; but it puts a perspective on it I suppose.

    Beachbum....I also hope your echo and all comes back positive news!!

    I am attempting to work from home;Ben went into the office; I am trying to be productive however I lose focus in an instant and just can't form a straight thought still.....also, I forgot to add Claratin to my morning meds and have gotten hit with the bone and joint pain worse this time; it's so hard to remember all the meds! And I have had a headache for 4 days now.....mild compared to most but annoying all the same.

    You girls make my day; the funny stories, the sharing, the support; this thread and you ladies....this site has been my lifeline through this!!

    Fight Like a Girl!!!! NEVER Give Up!!!!

    Lara


  • loriekg
    loriekg Member Posts: 263
    edited March 2015

    Oh crap!!!!! I totally forgot the Claritin...running upstairs now!

  • Beachbum1023
    Beachbum1023 Member Posts: 1,417
    edited March 2015

    Lorie and LCH, I had Neulasta after every chemo x 8. The bone and joint pain was progressively worse with every injection. The last one I had after Taxol, and I refused the full dose and requested the half dose, and no problem. But I took Tylenol #3 with codeine with the Neulasta. The pain was pretty crushing, so glad to see it go. Are your bills crazy for the Neulasta? My insurance company was billed $4,780 for every injection. They cut me off from any more Neulasta without approval :(

    LCH - Fight Like A Girl has a store in Westlake near me. The owner is a survivor, and she has the trademark on it. They have cool stuff....

    Lorie - You can run up stairs?? Go Girl Go!! I'm impressed. Uh tired...........

  • Beachbum1023
    Beachbum1023 Member Posts: 1,417
    edited March 2015

    Hi lorie, my nails didn't just fall off but they did turn color and a new nail grew in. The nails were somewhat loose when that happened my thumb nail was first and then the toenails, all of them. They turned a gray brown and were thick but the new nail grew under the old, and the old one grew out. So strange for sure, but I have all new healthy nails except for the two big toes. So almost there! Cuticle oil helped also.

  • loriekg
    loriekg Member Posts: 263
    edited March 2015

    Ok, ok, Beachbum I walked fast…you got me! LOL

    My insurance was billed over $11,000 for this shot!! (Of course the majority was written off and insurance actually paid a little over $3,000 for it.) I honestly don't know what is worse, the chemo or this shot. I will usually get a horrible headache the day after the shot, then the bone achy feeling like I'm coming down with the flu for a day or two. When I mentioned the headache as a side effect (wanted to know if they could Rx something to knock it out) they said they'd slow down the Herceptin. Wouldn't you think if that was the cause, I would have an immediate headache…not days later?

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