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  • Trvler
    Trvler Member Posts: 3,159
    edited March 2015

    Oh, I thought they said the Claritan D. Thanks for 'clarifying'. Insert rimshot here please.

    Jackbirdie: Thanks for sharing about how beautiful it is there today. That's nice to think about.

    Don't forget about lysine for mouth sores. I am going to keep telling people about that. If I can help one person, I will be happy. :)

  • Jackbirdie
    Jackbirdie Member Posts: 4,693
    edited March 2015

    and Dear Shaz- thanks for the wonderful compliment !

  • shaz101
    shaz101 Member Posts: 718
    edited March 2015

    thank you. I was told about bicarb but not about quick rinse. I'm all set up now. I'm also going to buy some lysine for good measure. My mouth feels horrid. Do you all brush your tongue? I'm being gentle but it doesn't really seem to help much.

    You're very welcome Katy.

    It's 9:30am here. I'm getting myself moving today. I'm going to put a bit of makeup on and some nice clothes :-) my mum is picking me up and I'll spend the day at her house by the beach. Hopefully I'll get some sand between my toes.

  • Italychick
    Italychick Member Posts: 2,343
    edited March 2015

    Marcibh, go get a second opinion just for peace of mind. I did, even though I went with my first oncologist.

    dianeDavis, one day at a time! Totally understand the worn out thing. Do something nice for yourself, you are totally worth it.

    Jackbirdie, enjoy the seals on the Oregon Coast. I'm in San Diego, and it is the most gloriously beautiful day along the west coast today.

    You are all beautiful ladies, and I cannot express how much it means to me to have you all to talk to through this process.

  • Trvler
    Trvler Member Posts: 3,159
    edited March 2015

    Italychick: Can I ask how you came up with your name?

  • Italychick
    Italychick Member Posts: 2,343
    edited March 2015

    I grew up in Illinois, married a traditional Midwestern man. Later in life, we moved to San Diego, divorced, and I met my now husband (of 20 years). We took our first trip to Italy together two months after we met, and we fell in love there, moved in together (after about 3 and 1/2 months), and have had a wonderful life for the past 20 years. So he has always known me as his Italychick. It also doesn't hurt that I am Sicilian and Greek! I am 52 - don't know if my bio information says that. I am interested in how old everybody is on this forum

  • wilkigirl
    wilkigirl Member Posts: 10
    edited March 2015

    Hey ladies....I'm so happy to hear how well most of you are doing. It is a but of a relief since I'm starting on Wednesday. To the few that aren't feeling well, I sure hope it turns round quickly for you.

    I am in Idaho and it is gorgeous here as well, even though I did not really felt like doing much today.

    In regards to Shaz inquiry...i am 40 years young and felt nothing. I went for my first mammo and they found multiple masses. My largest being 4.5 x 3 x 2.8cm

    Question.....is anybody fasting before/after their chemo rounds? I've been researching this and have spoken to a few ladies that have been fasting for their treatments and i am debating.

    How have you been feeling with the steroids and your appetites? I DO NOT want to gain weight! Ugh

  • shaz101
    shaz101 Member Posts: 718
    edited March 2015

    Thats a lovely story. I'm 47, I was married for 20 years and I got divorced 5 years ago. I met a lovely man 2 years ago and we've been going strong ever since. He's my best friend.

    I waked a 100km trailblazer event last October and I haven't done anything since. I feel like my muscles have all gone to mush.

    I have been to the chemist and I've bought Claratyne and some lysine. Here's hoping they work.

  • Jackbirdie
    Jackbirdie Member Posts: 4,693
    edited March 2015

    the rockin onc nurse mentioned lysine too so I ordered that. I'd already heard it here first!

    Great story Italychick!

    No fasting for me. they say eat protein and stay hydrated but too much water can make you sick. Just be reasonably hydrated. they do saline in one of the bags before the chemo too. I seem to be losing weight whatever I do.

    My biggest problem so far is fatigue and of course the ongoing never ending post mastectomy pain. I'm very susceptible to steroids and I'm swinging from the chandeliers, then drop like a stone. Wake up at 2 then that's it. I'm done with the steroids now and will use one of the other anti-nauseas if I start to feel sick

    Oh, andI will be 58 on March 23. Happy Birthday to me! Ugh.

  • Italychick
    Italychick Member Posts: 2,343
    edited March 2015

    I am not fasting. I killed myself to lose 50 pounds 4 years ago, and have become religious about working out. I cut out all processed food, etc. already. I can't take anymore deprivation lol.

    Wilkigirl, I gained 7 pounds during the four days of steroids, but most of it is gone now, 3 days later. Scared me pretty bad, though. My feet and ankles were swollen and I couldn't wear closed toed shoes.

    I'm going to try sucking on ice chips for round 2 to try and get rid some of the mouth stuff. I read it on a forum, and I figure it can't hurt.

    Shaz101, I have been brushing the crap out of my tongue and it may be helping. Hope the beach was enjoyable - I went to our San Diego beach this afternoon too

  • rleepac
    rleepac Member Posts: 755
    edited March 2015

    Hi gals. You've all been quite active while I slept LoL...

    I'm 43 y/o and was diagnosed at age 42. I have a 13-yr-old daughter and my DH is my best friend for the past 25 years.

    I feel petty good now except I'm just wiped out and can't seem to keep my eyes open. Did manage to go out for dinner and that felt good except I only ate 3/4 of a cheese ravioli because I didn't want to push it. I also put in a load of laundry and loaded/ran the dishwasher. At least DD will empty it and switch laundry for me...but I do have to ask LoL.

    I've been taking the Claritin since the day of my Neulasta shot and plan to continue for 4-5 days. So far, no bone pain.

    Neck still hurts from the port a little but not unbearable.

    I believe I have actually lost about 4 pounds because I haven't really eaten. But I'm sure that will come back up when my appetite returns and I'm not afraid of nausea anymore :)

  • rleepac
    rleepac Member Posts: 755
    edited March 2015

    Oh yeah, I wasn't given oral steroids - which was fine with me so I can't speak to that.

    I do brush my tongue but I bought a child's toothbrush for the extra soft bristles.

  • Italychick
    Italychick Member Posts: 2,343
    edited March 2015

    Rleepac, so they only gave you the IV steroids the days of chemo? Please let me know because then I'm going to ask if I can do that too. They told me the steroids are for swelling, so maybe that isn't an option for me since I am getting Taxotere.

    Hope you are feeling better!

  • shaz101
    shaz101 Member Posts: 718
    edited March 2015

    my partners birthday is on the 23rd of march too :-)

  • Jackbirdie
    Jackbirdie Member Posts: 4,693
    edited March 2015

    Ah, an Aries partner! Well, I hope you two can enjoy a wonderful celebration together this year, Shaz, you're a fine lady and you deserve THAT. Not this.

    I am also interested in the whole pre and post steroidal issue. Right on my prescription bottle it says to take after chemo for four days for nausea. That's in addition to a heavy dose night before and morning of. I am so susceptible to it. I am on Cytoxan and Taxotere. So far I haven't had nausea. Only really dry eyes, fatigue (probably from the not sleeping,Minot the chemo), and kind of a swollen gland feeling in my throat. But nobody ever mentioned it in connection with swelling, though any time I've had, say, prednisone in the past, that is exactly what it was used for. So confused.

    During my chemo they had my nails (hands) resting the entire time on ice packs to try yo save my nails. I'm a little worried about that too.....it's so weird worrying about these comparatively minor issues. Anyway, on advice of the boards here I bought tee tree oil and some nail polish to disguise while they are turning black ir dark yellow. How weird that BC suddenly has me wearing make-up, nail polish, earrings......what's next?

  • Italychick
    Italychick Member Posts: 2,343
    edited March 2015

    my birthday is April 17, so another Aries here!

  • Jackbirdie
    Jackbirdie Member Posts: 4,693
    edited March 2015

    good morning ladies! Better night's sleep last night but have swollen glands. Yuk. Ordinarily I would so brush it off.

    I'm stopping the steroid today and am thinking about an advance attack on nausea. Does anyone have any opinions, experience, hearsay, guesses, on Compazine/Prochlorpet vs Zofran/Ondansetron?

    Had the burps yesterday but not really reflux. I'm ready for that if I do.

    Tips?

    Otherwise I feel ok. Hydrating and planning a walk soon.

    Katy

  • Jackbirdie
    Jackbirdie Member Posts: 4,693
    edited March 2015

    good morning ladies! Better night's sleep last night but have swollen glands. Yuk. Ordinarily I would br it off.

    I'm stopping the steroid today and am thinking about an advance attack on nausea. Does anyone have any opinions, experience, hearsay, guesses, on Compazine/Prochlorpet vs Zofran/Ondansetron?

    Had the burps yesterday but not really reflux. I'm ready for that if I do.

    Tips?

    Otherwise I feel ok. Hydrating and planning a walk soon.

    Katy

  • SC_Coqui
    SC_Coqui Member Posts: 133
    edited March 2015

    My chemo was delayed a day since I had issues with my port. It was leaking ando the seal wasn't working properly. They had to replace it on Friday and right after do an infusion. I was exhausted on Friday, felt better yesterday and feel like crud today. I had my neulasta shot yesterday as well. Took some Claritin to see if it helps. I know that walking around would help but I can't get my energy up. The surgery and chemo on the same day has whooped me. Especially with the new port pain sidled with the mastectomy tissue expander pain.

    If my chemo wouldn't have been delayed I would have been going into work tomorrow but I have a feeling I'll be working from home recuperating.

    Everyone says the first one isn't as bad. I just wonder how bad it's going to get!

  • rleepac
    rleepac Member Posts: 755
    edited March 2015

    I'm doing the AC right now so it's a different cocktail but that's correct...for me I wasn't given any oral steroids before or after infusion.

    I've been taking both Zofran (every 8 hours) and Compazine (every 6 hours) to combat nausea. So far it's working.

    I just can't believe how dang tired I am - and shaky like I had the flu. I have lost 7 pounds because I've only eaten a few bites over the past several day.

  • Jackbirdie
    Jackbirdie Member Posts: 4,693
    edited March 2015

    SC Coqui- so very sorry to hear about the complications. Try to remember we all get hit at varying intensities at different times. It won't necessarily get a lot worse than you've had it in the last few days. A port failure and immediate infusion is no cake walk. I'll be thinking of you.


    Rleepac- nobody wants to gain weight. But you must try to nibble on bits here and there. It will help stay ahead of the nausea. But glad the meds are working. I've been thinking if you. You haven't had an easy time of it either!

  • wpmoon
    wpmoon Member Posts: 270
    edited March 2015

    Hi all,

    This seems to be the place where I should fully introduce myself. So, a formal introduction...

    My name is Whitney. I'm 27 years old, I found a lump in my left breast in November 2014, then I was diagnosed with ER/PR/HER2+, stage 1, grade 3 breast cancer on December 1, 2014. On December 15, 2014 I had a lumpectomy, and in February I went through fertility treatments to freeze eggs due to my age. Doctors are pretty confident I'll gain my fertility back, but I decided to save the eggs as an 'insurance policy' if you will. Up until dx, I was positive I wanted kids, now, after dx, I'm not entirely sure where I see my life going, so better to have all options on the table. On February 6 I had my retrieval surgery.. not too bad, and had abdominal discomfort for about a week. On February 23, I had my port placement surgery... the surgeon did an AMAZING job, and the incision is incredibly thin and will hopefully fade quickly. I just hate that it looks like I have a little alien growing under my chest. Since I'll be living with it for a year, I named her Penelope, aka Penny the Port.

    My treatment is going to be TCH-P, 6 rounds over the course of 18 weeks (so once every 3 weeks), then continuing Herceptin once every 3 weeks to complete a full year of treatment. I had my first chemo last Monday, March 2. So far, the side effects have been okay. I'm already getting the tingling in my hands and feet, despite taking vitamin B6 to try to help minimize it, and I'm super wiped out. I've been sleeping a lot this weekend, which I suppose is normal. The doctors and other women say to sleep when you feel tired, so that's what I'm trying to do while I have the time to do it.

    I'm doing cold capping because I wanted to feel a sense of normalcy during treatment. However, not getting to wash my hair as frequently as I used to is driving me a little nutty, and I almost feel like a wig would be easier. I found one that I liked that my mom and stepdad helped me pick out. A little different than my normal hair, but it looks like I just went to the salon. I'll post a picture below. The cold capping process was time consuming, although the cold really wasn't that unbearable. I had a heating blanket and wore comfy, warm clothes, so it wasn't a big deal. Maybe my pain tolerance is higher than I thought.

    I have a lot of the same concerns as all of you, as to whether I'll be able to work during treatment, how bad the side effects will be, not feeling like 'myself' during treatment... I just started a new job in January in the middle of all of my surgeries, so I can't take advantage of any FMLA benefits or long term disability benefits that my job offers. This past week after my first chemo was okay, I started to fade a little near the end of the week and had a hard time focusing, but I made it. I've already decided that if it becomes too much to handle, my health comes first, and I'll have to say something to HR and see what happens. Hopefully they'll be compassionate and will let me take time off and save the job for me. If not, then it wasn't meant to be.

    Anyway... that's my long, drawn out story. Right now I'm having a really bad acne reaction... not sure if that's from chemo or trying a new face wash the other day (bad idea as far as timing on my part), but since it's not letting up, I'm thinking it's the chemo.. waiting on a reply from my oncologist to see if this is common and if he can give me an Rx for it. It's super embarrassing and uncomfortable. I'm almost wishing I had the bad nausea or vomiting instead of this...

    One thing I will say is that I started taking the anti-nausea meds as soon as I got home that night after my first chemo, and took it in the morning and before bed, for about 5 days. I figured it was better to be ahead of the side effects rather than try to get them in control after they happened. So far, a few bouts of diarrhea (probably because I took a Sennokot for constipation, and it worked TOO well, so not sure I can blame the chemo), and exhaustion are my main side effects, along with the acne.

    Wishing you all the best of luck. We'll get through this, even if there are days where it doesn't feel like it.

    Me the day before Chemo #1

    image

    Me with the wig I'll be getting if cold capping doesn't work for me. I'll have them cut bangs into it since that's how I usually wear my hair, and probably trim it to be a little shorter.. Clearly it's a wig, but not too bad, right? I sent the picture to friends, and many of them asked if I simply got a hair cut, until they noticed the tag. Not sure if they're being sincere or just gentle with me..

    image

  • wpmoon
    wpmoon Member Posts: 270
    edited March 2015

    I asked my MO for Emla cream (lidocaine cream) to numb the port area before chemo infusions. you put it on 30 minutes prior to when they access the port, cover it with gauze or something, and head to the treatment center. I'm happy to report I didn't feel a damn thing when she stuck the needle in! Give it a try... I was so grateful for the recommendation. Anything to make the day more bearable.

  • SC_Coqui
    SC_Coqui Member Posts: 133
    edited March 2015

    wpmoon- the wig looks great! It really does look like your natural hair!

    I have very curly hair so I couldn't find a wig that will match my hair. I got a shorter pixie cut and figure this will be the one time in my life I get to try on straight hair for a while.

    One of the nurses at the infusion center mentioned the creme to me. I must have a high pain tolerance because I wasn't bothered when they accessed my port. I'm more bothered right now by my tissue expander than anything else!

  • shaz101
    shaz101 Member Posts: 718
    edited March 2015

    Thanks Katy, We all deserve better than this. but I can't complain, I'm so fortunate to have a great support system. My family and friends have rallied around me, but not in a smothering way! thank goodness.

    My oral meds are

    Nausea: Dexamethasone for 6 doses starting the morning before Chemo (3 days) and Metoclopramide, half an hour before food, when required

    Antibiotics: Ciprofloxacin 500mg from day 5 to day 14

    Pain: Oxycodone

    I've stopped the nausea and pain meds (except for paracetamol occasionally)

    SC Coqui: I'm sorry to hear about your port issues. hopefully once that settles down you will feel much better. I'm getting better each day now and my first treatment was on the 3rd of March.

    wpmoon: your look fantastic in the wig! where on earth did you hide your hair? I wish you tons of luck keeping your hair, but at least you have a great option if you go bald. My hair is/was too thick and curly, I've decided (I think) to just do scarves and hats). I think if I was your age I would have had eggs frozen. its much better to have a backup plan than to wish that you had one.


     

  • BBwithBC45
    BBwithBC45 Member Posts: 727
    edited March 2015

    Hello Ladies,

    I have been reading all weekend, just not posting - low mental energy.

    Physically I'm doing not too badly. Maybe I think so, because I was expecting worse? Besides, I only had one treatment of Taxol and Herceptin so far, last Tuesday.

    I noticed there was a question of steroids earlier in the thread. I only got them via IV as a part of premeds. Also, I was given Zofran via IV before chemo. I was prescribed some Zofran (generic though) pills to take home, but I was instructed not to take them earlier than Thursday evening (two days after chemo). I'm guessing the IV Zofran was supposed to last in my system until then. I felt nauseated a little bit on Tuesday and Wednesday mostly. Not so much on Thursday, but I did take Zofran on Thursday and Friday night, before dinner. And that was it, nausea-wise I'm doing pretty well this time. I don't have a huge appetite, but I try to eat small amounts frequently and I do drink much more water than usual as I was told both things help prevent nausea. I try to drink 1/2 gallon water, which is not easy for me.

    I have some finger and toe tingling here and there, it seems to be coming and going. I do take the vitamin B6 and I drink L-Gluatmine 3 times a day - tastes horrible to me.

    So far no mouth problems, I do rinse throughout the day with Biotene. At times my tongue has a little burning sensation, but not much.

    I did get constipated, I finally took Senokot and Colace, hoping for things to start moving with all the hydration. I walk at least 1/2 hour each day on my treadmill or outside, too.

    Other than that, I am a little bit achy today, but again - very slightly. I think my TE and my port are more bothersome. Also, my eyes are a little more dry than usually. I wouldn't call it a blurry vision just yet, but a little off.

    So, having said all that I am halfway expecting some major SE crisis, like it's supposed to happen any minute now.

    wpmoon - I'm using cold caps too and not being able to wash my hair drives me up the wall, especially since I used to wash it every day, and now I can do it only once a week, since my chemo is every 7 days. I washed it last Friday, and today it is so greasy already that it looks wet. Hmmm, maybe that's why I'm not paying much attention to all the side effects. Everybody is saying that chemo dries out hair, I'm hoping it will happen for me soon. I think your "just-in-case" wig is very cute. You and I have a similar diagnosis, I'm 18 years older than you though.

    BB

  • Italychick
    Italychick Member Posts: 2,343
    edited March 2015

    wpmoon, sorry you are here, but a big welcome. About the foot tingling, Taxotere deplates potassium bad. Carboplatin depletes magnesium bad. So make sure you take plenty of both of those substances, I take like 2-3 times what a bottle says to take. I have also been doing Epsom salt baths for my feet. Some of the tingling could be swelling related. I got that too. In fact, my feet are tingling in sympathy right now for you! Not sure if it is the same for you, but in my case, magnesium and potassium supplementation and the foot baths help. I had a similar issue four years ago when I ate a low carb diet, and I realized most of my foot issues were related to mineral depletion then. The side benefit of lots of magnesium is I can poop. If it gives me diarrhea, it goes away quick since the body uses magnesium up quickly.

    I am doing TCH, not P though. I am also icing my feet during infusions and next treatment I am going to suck on ice chips. I read on another forum that the chemo travels downward to your feet (not sure if it is true), but I figure foot detoxification can't hurt.

    Also, rubbing my feet with Aveeno stress relief lotion with lavender seems to help, but I'm not sure why. I'm. It sure if it is the lotion or the action of rubbing my feet.

    I'm going to try some acupuncture next week and I will see if it helps and post my results.

    I am using Nutribiotic Dental Gel (available on Amazon or at health stores) for my nasty mouth. It tastes like I burnt my mouth on super hot coffee. It is strong, but it seems to be helping. I have been 6 days and my taste buds came back yesterday. So be warned if you get it that it might burn some, but it is working for me. I am also doing the baking soda and salt water mouth rinse too. 1/2 tsp. Each of baking soda and salt in a glass of lukewarm water, garglina bunch every day. The Biotene mouth wash recommended tastes horrible, totally gagged me.

    I would love to hear other people's tips and tricks.

    The wig I picked is called Scene Stealer by Raquel Welch. I have long hair and I want to look as normal as possible. It has a lace cap and the hair is hand sewn in so you can see your natural scalp through it. I found a wonderful lady here who is in chemo for life (colon cancer) and she cut little wispiness around the hair line to make it look more natural.

    Hang in there. I am so sorry you have to deal with breast cancer at such a young age. My heart feels for you.

    Xoxo.

  • BBwithBC45
    BBwithBC45 Member Posts: 727
    edited March 2015

    Italychick, I didn't know about the potassium issue. Taxol and Taxotere are in the same family, I wonder if Taxol does the same. My oncologist did not mention the potassium, though, only L-Glutamine.

  • Jackbirdie
    Jackbirdie Member Posts: 4,693
    edited March 2015

    imagewpmoon-welcome! Sorry to meet under these circumstances. Your wig is out of this world! You will rock that look! I got the port cream too, I seem to be sort of sensitive everywhere these days. I kind of feel like a pincushion.

    BB- so glad to hear from you and that things are manageable. Sort of.

    I'm feeling quite dull. Took wonder dog for a little walk, but don't feel like doing anything much, reading is out, no concentration. Today is the dreaded day 4.

    • Italychick- I have magnesium spray that I used for another issue earlier this year. Think it's worth a try? I had heard when the body gets so low on it it can sometimes absorb through the skin and replete faster. I continue with the baking soda swish, and I miss my friend, who left this morning. But it's beautiful here again today. Here is a picture of a poor old elephant seal on the beach yesterday. He is healthy, enjoying a nap, but I looked at him and sort of..... You know....resonated with him.
  • Jackbirdie
    Jackbirdie Member Posts: 4,693
    edited March 2015

    hey Italychick! How bout a pic of that Raquel Welch scene stealer! I'm really enjoying seeing the beautiful faces of the beautiful people on this thread

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