mastectomy or lumpectomy?
I have DCIS breast cancer. The surgeon suggested lumpectomy with radiation, every 6 month diagnostic mammograms and follow up visits every so often with oncologist and a 5-7% chance of returning. Mastectomy is less than 1% returning, and none of the other. I do not know which choice to make. I do not know anything about either of the choices and the aftermath of either. Can anyone tell me their experience with either one? Thanks so much for your help.
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I had experience with both. First lumpectomy, margins not clear, then re-incision still not clear, then surgeon and I decided on mastectomy. I did prayer, research and confidence in my surgeon to make the decision. Glad with final choice. I pray you make the choice that is right for you.
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Sorry you are faced with this decision. Not fun. I chose mastectomy because I didn't want radiation. It is a tough choice with pros and cons for both. Hopefully you will get lots of answers here to help you decide.
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Besides sharing your experiences and learning from other members here at the boards, you may also want to take a look at the Breast Cancer 101section from the main site, which is designed to help you sort through all of the information on our site to find what is more relevant to you right now.
Also it relevant to read from our main site reliable information on DCIS — Ductal Carcinoma In Situ, Diagnosis of DCIS OR where you'll learn about symptoms, diagnosis, treatment, etc.
Possibly of interest too is the Oncotype DX Test
Also talk with the other DCIS experienced members on DCIS (Ductal Carcinoma In Situ) Forum - check out the various Topics.
Some go for Lumpectomy and others s Mastectomy - both have pros and cons to consider but it is yoiur decision with guidance from your Doctors and results.
We hope this helps!
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Thanks for responding. Did you have reconstructive surgery? How has your experience been so far and are you glad you made the choice you did?
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Thank you. I am new here and learning my way around. I am trying to find out as much information as I can so I can make the right decision.
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I'm so sorry you are here and faced with this decision. Its a difficult decision, but as you research your options and talk to others, eventually it becomes clear what option feels right for you. There is no right or wrong answer. It is very personal decision based on your unique circumstances and priorities.
This forum is a wealth of information and insightful stories from others who have gone through this, so read through threads on topics pertaining to your situation. Its also a good place to talk when your family and friends don't seem to understand.
You do not have to decide immediately. Meeting with a plastic surgeon to discuss reconstruction options may be beneficial. Talk with a radiation oncologist to understand the side effects and risks. If you are a candidate for genetic testing, this may also help you decide. Go to a medical supply store to check out what prosthetics are like.
Understand that sometimes lumpectomy does not get "clear margins" and has to be done over. There is controversary as to the safety of rads to heart & lungs, especially when radiating the left breast. Not trying to sway your decision, just letting you know the factors that many consider when facing this decision.
If you chose mx, you open the door to even more difficult decisions. One or both breasts? Reconstruct or go flat? Implants vs. "flaps"? (There are lots of before/after photos available online.)
To me, an informed decision is the easiest decision to live with. Take a deep breath, keep an open mind till you have all the facts and don't let others tell you what to do, it has to be the option that feels right ro you.
For me, I chose double mx because I wanted symmetry of appearance and I did not want radiation. I chose DIEP reconstruction, which involves harvesting fat from the tummy area to make new breast mounds. There are other types of flaps available too. I will have a stage 2 surgery soon to make nipples and then the nipples and areola color will be tatooed on. There are lots of other options here too such as nipple sparing surgery and 3-D tatoos.
I wish you good luck.
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Trying to decide between mastectomy or lumpectomy. My husband just read mastectomy is very painful recovery. Is that true for many of you? I have been diagnosed with DCIS stage 0 from a biopsy. recommendation from doctor is lumpectomy with radiation afterwards everyday for 6 weeks. That scares me as well as the possibility of the cancer returning, future possible biopsies or lumpectomies. Just the constant worry. I would appreciate any stories from the members on your experiences.
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Thanks so much debiann for all your information. This is exactly what I am looking for. I am trying to do research to understand which choice is best for me. I want to know about mastectomies after they are done, if the women are happy with their decisions. Any problems they may have. I am not attached to my breasts so not having them does not seem a big problem for me but I am trying to make a decision that will cause me the least amount of worry and surgery. I have read many here have to have second lumpectomies as well as second biopsies. So thank you for all the information.
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I too have just been diagnosed. Can't even remember what the Dr said. See her tomorrow. Can't sleep. I have had about 10 biopsy over the last 6 years. All benign. Just had 3 in my left breast and this time came back positive. Had been with my old surgeon for 20+ years. He retired in December. Had asked him years ago to take my breast off. Every six months I get mammogram and ultrasound. I hate the worrying. Do remember Dr saying mastectomy was option for both breast. Oh yeah have a follow-up on right breast in 6 months. My husband is very supportive, so that's not an issue. I know I don't have to make a decision tomorrow. Guess it's just the reality of what to do. Was reading the replies and found them helpful
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Regarding the pain after mx, mine was not so bad, but everyone is different. There's lots of good pain medication available if you need it. For me, the worst pain came from the surgical drains. I could not wait to get them out!
Because I had DIEP recon I was cut from hip to hip (like a tummy tuck). I thought that would really hurt, but surprisingly it didn't. Not to say the ordeal was easy, but it wasn't as bad as chemo.
In comparison, my husband just had hemmroids removed and he had much more pain than I did.
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So sorry that each of you are having to make this decision. I thought would throw my experience in here too. I had a DCIS Dx and I decided to go with a Umx, without reconstruction.I wanted to avoid Rads if I could. In saying that, I did have a Sentinel Node Biopsy, which I would have avoided if I went with a lumpectomy. There are definitely pros and cons for each type of surgery. I had virtually no pain from the Mx surgery and didn't have any pain meds after the surgery in Hospital, or when I went home, I actually went shoe shopping on my way home from the Hospital the morning after my surgery, with my drain in a shoulder bag!
You'll find many different reasons, regarding this decision, which so many of us are faced with. For me, I would do the same thing again, no regrets. I have no issue with being a Uni, I am used to the way I feel and look and wearing a breast form isn't an issue for me.
Make sure the decision you make, is your decision, don't be swayed by what anyone else thinks you should do. You will know what feels right for you.
I should mention I have a Husband who was a rock for me and his acceptance of whatever I chose to do, was terribly important. He really didn't want me to have any more surgery than was absolutely necessary, or indeed that I wanted to have. I never considered removing my other breast and his reaction to my missing breast site, the day after surgery was "Oh, that will heal really well!" and "You don't need 2 breasts to be gorgeous!" That was really all I needed to feel confident and at peace, with my decision.
I wish each of you all the very best! ((((((Hugs))))) Let us know how you get on.
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Hi there -- I am leaning towards a mastectomy of my left breast which has multi focal cells (three). Good prognosis. For those of you who had a single mastectomy, how long before you could put some kind of a bra or camisole on. My BS said that my hospital gives you a form to take home and then after everything has healed, the hospital has a fitter for a prosthesis. I am between a C and a D cup so sure would look lopsided without any kind of support., Any information would be v ery much appreciated.
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Hello Bridegal, there are lots of us here! I am a Uni and we have a great thread here called "All things bras and prosthesis" there is a lot of information over there.
I had a softee form and bra, which is given to everyone who is having a Mx in Australia. I used that for the first 6 weeks, even though I was a the fitter after 1 week, asking to be fitted, but when they found I was just 1 week out from surgery, I was shooed away and told to come back in about 5 weeks when the swelling had subsided and the incision was healed.
I am a D on my remaining side, so unlike the ladies who have a smaller cup size who can wear a Genie bra quite successfully. I purchased an Amoena Valletta camisole, which has Mx pockets in it. I have found this to be a great garment that I wear very often and have purchased it in many colors. A sports bra or a crop top can work too, because they have pockets with modesty shield inside, but nothing, in my opinion really works as well as the camisole, or a properly fitted Mx bra. Seeing a good fitter is a step in the right direction to find what suits you and then when you know the styles you like, you can start shopping online and finding bargains.
Some of us who are Unis' sometimes go flat and I find even wpth a D I can do this if I wear a firm fitting shape wear tank top. The truth is, I have a preference for light weight foam, leisure forms, which I wear with the camisole and I really don't even notice I am wearing it. I am just over 2 years out from my surgery and have absolutely no regrets about having a Umx and no recon. If there is anything else I can help with, just ask and take a look at the Living without recon threads too..
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Thank you Ariom for your prompt reply I printed out your post. Looks like we're the same size which really helps.
I was ready to go a fitter before surgery so I would feel comfortable and see what my options were. My bs told me that before I go home after surgery I get a form and it's nice to hear from you that you weren't lopsided during the weeks before you are able to go the fitter. I am going to do some research on the camisole. I love wearing camisoles so that shouldn't be a problem. It's taken me a long time to come to this decision but I am feeling better and better about it as I do more research. I don't have a date yet because I have to stop smoking before and right now am attempting to do that. I am on he smoking support board here and am getting some other help. What an awesome site this is. Again, thank you. Great country you live in by the way.
Shirl
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HI Suzanne,
I am in the same position as you. I am leaning toward double MX as I already have implants and everything I read says radiation destroys them.....along with your skin, and there are long term effects that appear years later. If possible, I want to avoid that. I realize that this is a longer recovery, but, in the long run, I think I will be better off. I also do not want the worry of more mammograms (which did not even find my tumor) I found it taking a shower.....a little lump! I am not worried about the pain as much as the length of time I will not be able to do the things I like to do...like ride my bike, exercise, etc. I am 66 years old, but still have a zest for life and want to enjoy my 5 grandchildren. I realize there is a chance of radiation needed after MX, but I know with a lumpectomy, it is for sure, and I do not want that. I want to get on the other side of this surgery. This decision-making is driving me nuts!
Lynn
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Hello bridgegal and mysunshine, I am sorry you are both doing the waiting and decision making. It is a tough time.
Shirl, I answered you on another thread about the location of scars, so i won't repeat any of that here, but if you already like camisoles, I think you'll find the Valletta very comfy! I even just pinned the soft puffy form into a T shirt, right after my surgery and it worked quite well. You'll be surprised how you'll adapt!
I don't envy you having to give up smoking before your surgery. I was a smoker too, but gave up 8 years ago this month. I went to a guy who has developed the Allen Carr method for quitting, I had tried hypnotherapy and gum etc, nothing worked for me, till I did this 2 hour meeting and I walked out of there a non smoker and have never been tempted again. I wish you all the very best with that.
Hi Lynn, there are many women who find their cancer themselves where Mammograms fail to find them. Mine was found, only after I had a Digital Mammogram, my Surgeon believes it was there on my previous analogue films, but they couldn't see it. I shudder to think what may have been, if I had returned to the same facility again for the 2 year mammo and it was missed again.
I was 59 when I was Dx and I was out walking my dog, albeit a short walk, in the first week after my Umx. I must admit that my decision to have the Umx, was mostly driven by my desire to avoid rads, which as you point out was not an absolute given, but I was willing to take the risk. In saying that I did have to consider the SNB which I could have avoided if I went for the Lx. I felt that I was more afraid of having an Axillary Clearance if anything invasive was found in my final pathology, so I opted for the SNB. Nothing was found, but I have no regrets.
I know this seems hard to believe right now, but you will find that most women will tell you that the surgery was nowhere near what they actually expected and had built up in their minds. Of course there are exceptions, but for me, there was no pain, strange sensations, yes, zinging zapping and raspy sunburn sensation, but I never needed any pain medication at all. I spent the night walking the halls and chatting with the Nursing staff after my surgery and was out the following morning. As ridiculous as this sounds, I went shoe shopping on the way home at a mall with my drain in a shoulder bag. There was extreme tiredness in the first few weeks, where I could literally dose off mid sentence, but all in all the recovery was far easier, than I ever imagined. I had a few hiccups along the way with an infection, a seroma and cording, but nothing major.
Take your time to make up your minds ladies, don't be swayed by what anyone else "thinks" your should do, it is your decision and you'll know what feels right for you.
Come here often and ask anything, we all understand how you're feeling and know how tough it is, to make this life changing decision.
It won't be long till you're both on this side of the surgery, sharing your experiences with new members!
I wish you all the very best!
edited to add, Thank you Briidgegal, have you been to Aus?
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Hi Lynn -- the decision making is so so difficult. I am in your age group and I feel the same way as you. I want to be done with this (hopefully) the last few months have been hell with testing, biopsies which were difficult, MRIs which I couldn't do, and the list goes on. I have no problem wearing a form, cami, or whatever suits me best,. It will probably be easier for you because of both coming off. Knowing me I will want almost the exact match in a breast form. I hope I am able to get it. From what the gals on here are telling me I probably will. That is why I couldn't do the lumpectomy with recon. and for other various reasons. which is in another post I just wrote on here. I've been to Bonita Springs many times..We used to stay at the Hyatt resort. But it's been a couple of months since DX. My team sure isn't rushing me -- they say I have a good DX and this gives me time to look into options. Tough journey this is. Shirl
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Hi Ladies,
Sorry that we have to go through this but thought this might help someone out.
I had my bilateral nipple sparing mastectomy with immediate implant reconstruction last 23 Feb, 2 weeks ago. I'm 31 years old. Diagnosed with invasive ductal carcinoma, 7mm, grade 1, ER/PR positive, HER2 negative. I'm definitely a candidate for lumpectomy too. I chose a mastectomy because:
1) Peace of mind - I hopefully have a lot more years in life to go and wouldn't want to worry about a huge probability of another cancer. Recurrence of this cancer I know is about the same with either surgery. But risk of developing new cancer is greatly diminished with mastectomy. I wanted that.
2) Regret as I may not have the surgery option for mastectomy that I want - If I get another cancer, I may regret not doing mastectomy now. I'm a candidate for nipple sparing mastectomy with immediate implants. If I get another cancer In the future and if I can't save my nipple or do immediate reconstruction, I may regret it and kick myself. Don't get me wrong, there are awesome ways of reconstructing the nipple. I just wanted to minimize the procedures I need to do. This may be shallow but definitely a big thing to consider. On the flip side, maybe a few years down the road, there will be more advanced ways of doing mastectomy and reconstruction. Something I was okay to live with.
3) I grew up on formula and hence have no emotional feelings towards breastfeeding. I'm single by the way.
4) I was okay to live with dating a guy and explaining to him about BC and what my choices were. This is important. I am comfortable being single for the rest of my life and would want to stay that way unless I meet the right guy for me. And the right guy for me should accept all of me, including my implants sans real breasts.
5) I have BRCA2 VUS. I know one should not make decisions based on VUS but my aunt passed away at 37 with breast cancer recurrence. Her first onset was in her late 20's. That's enough real life experience for me to try and err on the side of caution and manage this VUS head on.
6) I felt lumpectomy plus radiation will change how my boob looks like anyway. I'm 34A. My left side is already smaller than my right. I feel radiation will make my skin look bad. Don't get me wrong, I've read all radiation effects from a cosmetic perspective can be fixed. But I wasn't too sure it will be for me. Looking nice is important for me. I feel that mastectomy with implant recon will give me that.
7) My gut - This is important for me. I've done a lot of research. I know a lot about BC, surgery options, risks. I've read and heard first hand from people who went through both surgeries. I was against mastectomy when I first learned about my suspicious lump. But as I became more informed, I became more comfortable with mastectomy than lumpectomy. I'm also a Christian and I feel that my gut is God's still voice in my heart. Again, I'm not advising going for your gut without being informed.
It was not an easy decision. My oncologist was great and he had to make sure I was choosing the right thing. I asked him to question me and he did. I cried in his office while answering each question he threw my way. But we ended with him fully supporting my decision as he believes it's an informed one.
Did I second guess myself? Absolutely. Even right up to the day before my surgery and a few moments after my surgery. I listed down my pros and cons for mastectomy and have one great friend who knew every aspect of my decision. Whenever I second guess myself, I go back to my list and my friend, and will eventually be reminded this was the right thing for me.
I'm 2nd weeks post surgery. My PS is raving about my breasts but I am not yet seeing it. I can see the potential of it looking nice but I guess I have to wait and see when they settle. But it's been a while since I've second guessed my decision. It's also because every day, I see the breasts improving and the feeling of pressure, numbness is getting better and better.
Wish you all ladies the best through this journey x -
Mel -- thanks for posting your journey and your feelings with each step. I hope you are healing well and that this was somewhat painless physically for you. Huge decision for someone your age but you sound like a trooper and I wish you the best. Shirl
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