Starting Chemo February 2015

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  • cubbieblue
    cubbieblue Member Posts: 68
    edited February 2015

    Another lurker out of the shadows!  Welcome Live_Deliciously,

    Hope your SEs continue to be minimal.  I agree with you that the anticipation and anxiety build-up that comes before the initial treatment are worse than it actually happening.  I also wasn't sure whether or not I needed the port.  My MO said he preferred that I get it, so that's what I did.  I'm kind of a non-control freak and have difficulty even deciding what to order for dinner at a restaurant, so I just decided to go with his recommendation and was glad when I had one less decision to make.

    Everyone is here to help. Best of luck to you!

    Cubbieblue


     

  • live_deliciously
    live_deliciously Member Posts: 346
    edited February 2015

    Anyone have any issues with the neulasta shot? I just took it a couple hours ago.

  • Damselfly
    Damselfly Member Posts: 62
    edited February 2015

    I had my Neulasta shot last Tuesday, took Claritin for a few days (before, during, after) and had no issues until the following Tuesday. I had an aching back yesterday and today, as if I had spent the day moving furniture and overused those muscles some. Not enough to keep me from getting out and moving, but enough to get my attention now and again if I am sitting down trying to read or trying to sleep. A couple of ibuprofen and a heating had on my back were helpful. And a hot shower, which cures many ills IMO.

  • live_deliciously
    live_deliciously Member Posts: 346
    edited February 2015

    maybe its a good sign - its making those white blood cells we need

  • Beachbum1023
    Beachbum1023 Member Posts: 1,417
    edited February 2015

    live-deliciously, I had the same chemo AC/T. I had Neulasta 24 hours after every infusion. I took 1 24 hour Claritin with the Neulasta and AC. When I switched to the Taxol, I had severe bone and joint pains. I took the Claritin but also took Tylenol #3 with codeine to kill the pain. The last infusion of Taxol I refused the full dose of Neulasta and only had 1/2 the dose but it was the last chemo. Everything was fine after that. But the pain was pretty fierce. Way more than the "ache" I was told. Good Luck!

  • SugarCakes
    SugarCakes Member Posts: 353
    edited February 2015

    first cycle, I had neulasta on Tuesday. I had the worst back pain ever that Saturday night. Had a painful massage in my massage chair and took hydrocodone I already had around the house. Got a new hydrocodone Rx from my MO for the second cycle. Taking Claritan (as I did the first time) but also started midol today, even before any pain. I went into this diagnosis with lingering back pain. That has seemingly gone away so I amwaiting to see what happens this time around.

  • Beachbum1023
    Beachbum1023 Member Posts: 1,417
    edited February 2015

    Hi sugarcakes, I had terrible pain with Neulasta and Taxol. I switched to Tylenol #3 with codeine to cut the pain. The last dose I refused it, and took 1/2 of the Neulasta. I couldn't take the pain, I thought my bones imploded. Enough!

  • malimoh
    malimoh Member Posts: 2
    edited February 2015

    Hi all, I am in bed with a bad back. I had the worst back pain this morning, so bad that my dog was worried about me. The thing is that I am nearly 3 weeks out from my Neulasta shot and will get another Tues. after my second round of TCH chemo on Monday. Prior to this back pain, I was able to control weird pains in my ribs, back, and legs with advil. Has anyone else had pain from the shot 2 1/2 weeks out?

    Biotene mouthwash has been really good in alleviating beginnings of mouth sores and dry mouth.

    I am anxious about chemo round 2. I felt so awful day3-8 that I wondered if I could take one more round let alone 5 more! But then I came out of it mostly and felt pretty good until back pain.

    Thanks for being there and reading my laments. Good luck to all of you!

  • Chloesmom
    Chloesmom Member Posts: 1,053
    edited February 2015

    First infusion the Zofran made me a bit constipated so I loaded up on prune juice later on the day of the 2nd infusion. Over did it and despite drinking a lot of water got wiped out this morning and a bit dehydrated which made my temp go up. Scared me until I figured out it was! Loaded up on liquids and Popsicles tonight and all back to normal. Whew!

  • Beachbum1023
    Beachbum1023 Member Posts: 1,417
    edited February 2015

    malimoh, sorry you are having a rough time! Have you tried drinking more water? I usually drink 4 to 6 bottles a day. I had terrible pain from the Neulasta, but it hit the morning after the injection. It usually stuck around for 4 to 5 days. The Claritin helped a little, but I used Tylenol #3 with codeine to cut the pain.

    The Biotene worked well, but I carry Brach's Lemon Drops every place I go. The tart flavors seems to work well. I always have bottles of water with me also.

    Oh the Big C is a big pain, in more ways than one. I always had a nice dinner the night before chemo and took Sennokot-S the morning before I went to chemo. I would take it for two or three days, just in case. I always tried to eat enough fruit etc. to keep things in the middle of the side effects.

  • Jaejk5
    Jaejk5 Member Posts: 29
    edited February 2015

    Thank you so much for all the info. It is 5:00 AM and I have been up for hours waiting to go experience my first round of 4. I will be getting the TC. I have been nervous but it I think the Nuelesta shot tomorrow should be the bigger fear. I'm going to ask my onc what he recommends. I will definitely try the Claritin. I also decided to try the cold cap therapy today, also. I hope for all the trouble that process is I have a great outcome. So much going on. Wake me up in May! I'm wishing everyone well!!!!!!!. No idea before now, how BC changes your life. Next year, with the exception of Femera, I'm hoping this will all be a distant memory.

  • Bikerbabe17
    Bikerbabe17 Member Posts: 116
    edited February 2015

    imageimagejaejk5---I sleep well last night, but I've been taking a Tylenol pm. It's been helping. Off to my 1st chemo in just a few hours. My coworkers had a lunch for me yesterday, a few went and had their hair dyed pink, they are a wonderful group to work with:). I'm in the light shirt, that's my boss next to me, holding a yellow ducky with pink hair!

  • Damselfly
    Damselfly Member Posts: 62
    edited February 2015

    Bikerbabe you have the coolest coworkers! One wonderful SE of this whole BC thing is seeing and feeling the love from my dear friends and family. And of course meeting all of you! I hope the first dose goes well for you and for you too Jaejk5.

    Malimoh I am so sorry you are in pain. 2 1/2 weeks is supposed to be an easy stretch! Every day I wake up without some sort of unpleasant surprise I take as a gift. I hope your pain is better. If it's any consolation, I have heard that the first round of the Neulasta is the worst as your bones make the first adjustment, like breaking in a stiff pair of shoes. Let's hope that's true.

    I am feeling pretty good today, my back is definitely stronger and no real twinges to speak of. Now if only the sun would come out...

  • Chloesmom
    Chloesmom Member Posts: 1,053
    edited February 2015

    My skin on my head was getting tender and was dry where it had been shaved I started moisturizing it with coconut oil. Feels so much better! It's funny how I have to keep switching hats and head coverings. Too warm sometimes and too cold others. The very best are some very soft knit pull on caps that people donated to the chemo center. They are crocheted out of baby yarn. The elastic on the cloth ones bother me, but these are nice and soft

  • Mecsmama
    Mecsmama Member Posts: 20
    edited February 2015

    I need some advice ladies. I am on day 9 of treatment two. I am feeling half decent and have a snow day today and tomorrow. I would love to try a glass of wine. It has been forever! What do you all think? Good idea or bad idea?

  • Darumama
    Darumama Member Posts: 135
    edited February 2015

    I'm another lurker who is finally taking the plunge and joining in. I got a port put in today and I'm scheduled to start chemo tomorrow. Most of you already seem like experts to me. I'm also waiting for the results of my PET scan so this has been one stressful week!

    Kris

  • Bikerbabe17
    Bikerbabe17 Member Posts: 116
    edited February 2015

    My first day in oncology was pretty uneventful. But I did forget to ask when I could have my glass of wine 😊. Suppose I have to wait a few days

  • SugarCakes
    SugarCakes Member Posts: 353
    edited February 2015

    I've had drinks. My MO said anything in moderation. I like cucumber infused vodka with OJ ;)

  • Bikerbabe17
    Bikerbabe17 Member Posts: 116
    edited February 2015

    How soon after the 1st infusion shoul I take my anti nausea meds, tonight before I go to bed or in the morning

  • SweetHope
    SweetHope Member Posts: 439
    edited February 2015

    I was instructed to start the anti-nausea Rx 1/2 hour before chemo infusion and stay on them for several days. I'd pop one now.

  • Bikerbabe17
    Bikerbabe17 Member Posts: 116
    edited February 2015

    they gave me some at the beginning of the process. They told me wait until I needed it, but I don't want to. Will just one do, do you think

  • PJfive
    PJfive Member Posts: 14
    edited February 2015

    Hello Ladies.

     My 1st chemo infusion yesterday and neulasta shot today were uneventful. I have not had any SE's except for some facial flushing. I am expecting some flu like symptoms or something this weekend.

    The real news was I had to fire my MO. It seems any question I ask him is a threat to ego. He actually told me to stop attacking him. My questions were reasonable and calmly stated, Such as how he monitors for heart problems with Adramycin since Echo shows some problems in valves and aorta that are part of my family history? Does he do tumor markers? Will he do a PET scan or something when we finish chemo? He says he does not do any of these things because they are not necessary Even though the radiologist can not rule out a nodule in my lung or explain the inflammed nodes around my pancreas. The rad recommends restest of these areas. He says he  is on the board and writes the guidelines for this protocol. He says he can't guarantee anything. I told him I was not asking for guarantees but he can't ask me to assume I am cured after finishing the treatment plan with out some kind of final screening. If he couldn't agree to that then I would have to find someone else.

    The social worker came up during my infusion and was basically supporting the doctor. She actually said because of  my education I can be one of the worst patients. That was just insulting and stressful on my first day of chemo. I think knowledge is power and it is essential to be able to discuss anything with my doctor with out worrying about hurting his feelings. She said I could get other doctors to order the scans. I said how do you thing I got the PET/CT scan in the first place...the BS agreed to it. This MO  may be the smartest guy in the room but I am not a statistic and it is essential to me to have a good repoire with my doctor. I no longer have confidence in him and made the decision today to continue the treatment with another doctor.

    I guess I should tell you I spent over half my adult life in the medical field including Pharmacy mixing these same chemo drugs 25 years ago. I was also one semester shy of graduating from nursing school. Hardly makes me a threat for an award winning MO.

    Hope everyone has better days ahead.

    PJ

  • cubbieblue
    cubbieblue Member Posts: 68
    edited February 2015

    Darumama, welcome to the club you never wanted to join!  You certainly have a lot going on this week. I think we all lurked for a while, then started asking questions and gained so much knowledge in the process.  What kind of chemo are you receiving?

    Mecsmama, I asked the same question of my oncology nurse when I realized that Valentine's Day was falling on my Day 18 and I expected to be to be feeling well and wanted to go out to dinner.  Her answer was "just don't get falling down drunk."  I worried whether one glass of wine would be enough to have me falling down after abstaining for so long!  So I had my wine with dinner and felt good about my decision to have red wine in view of a recent University of Colorado study which suggests red wine seems to fight cancer.  So I say enjoy your glass of wine.

    Now I have a question and seriously this is completely unrelated to the above paragraph:   is anyone else experiencing more frequent hiccupping since starting treatment?

  • Darumama
    Darumama Member Posts: 135
    edited February 2015

    I start adriamycin and cytoxan tomorrow. I feel equal parts dread and eagerness to get on with it. Before I go to chemo the breast surgeon wants me to do an ultrasound of what I believe is a swollen lymph node near my tumor site. Another eventful day. My friends are surprised I'm not binge watching Netflix, but my testing, phys therapy, and doctor appointments keep me hopping all day long.



  • Beachbum1023
    Beachbum1023 Member Posts: 1,417
    edited February 2015

    Darumama, Good Luck tomorrow! I finished AC/T on 11/25. Drink a lot of water, and drink during the infusion it will help flush out the AC. If you have any questions, just ask. Take Care

  • SweetHope
    SweetHope Member Posts: 439
    edited February 2015

    Bikerbabe, I didn't mean to ignore you, I fell asleep. Bedtime comes on very suddenly now, usually when I'm ready to watch my sitcoms. Since you are on CT and I am on AC, the nausea issue may be different for each of us. And the SE of our SE meds may vary, too.

    I am full of anti-nausea meds. Right before the infusion I get a shot of them for immediate use, then I get an IV drip of them to kick in the second week, and I start that first day on an Rx of Zofran for daytime and Phenergan for night. I was told if nausea broke through to add the other Rx. And like pain pills, I need to stay ahead of the problem.

    Needless to say, the Big C was a real problem until I drank a lot more water. These meds and pain meds draw water out of my intestines and turn my stools to rocks! Sorry for that, but I want you to avoid this SE.

    I don't want you to ignore your MO's instructions. I just wanted you to know why I said to take one. Do you have a nurse navigator? Or someone's number from MO's office to answer questions at weird hours? Because that is a good question, especially since you were told to wait.

    Hope you are SE free. And BTW your office crew pictures were cute except that cake looked too pretty to eat.


  • CarolynAnne
    CarolynAnne Member Posts: 57
    edited February 2015

    Hi Live Deliciously-

    I took Claritin Days 1-5, Neulasta Day 2 and had no pain.

    I am learning how differently we all react to things! For example, I had terrible pain with my port and others are just fine!

    Here's a question: Has anyone's allergies gotten worse with chemo? I have always had seasonal allergies and my daughter has a pet rabbit which I am not allergic to but I am mildly allergic to her Timothy Hay. I thought I was getting sick (coughing, runny nose) but then I realized the other day that my symptoms got way worse after taking care of rabbit in the AM. I mean serious coughing, sneezing, runny nose. I have never been that bad!

    Started losing my hair on Wed (day 16 post 1st A/C) shaved it off yesterday and got my hh wig. It needs a little tweaking but I think it will be nice.

    2nd infusion on Monday...

    Hope you are all hanging in!



  • CarolynAnne
    CarolynAnne Member Posts: 57
    edited February 2015

    What great coworkers you have Bikerbabe! That is awesome!

  • CarolynAnne
    CarolynAnne Member Posts: 57
    edited February 2015

    PJ Five- you are so right to fight for yourself and it is too bad that your former MO didn't! I am A/C and am justifiably worried about my heart. Luckily my MO IS SUPPORTIVE! I had one infusion and felt numerous painsin my chest and palpitations so she ordered an ECHO which thankfully came back "perfect" i will still be nervous the next 3 times the Red Devil goes in me!

    Stay Strong!

  • Chloesmom
    Chloesmom Member Posts: 1,053
    edited February 2015

    Don't know if it's allergies worse or a SE. My nose runs clear continuously. Like a drippy fauce

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