Immunotherapy actually works

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Larry M. Weisenthal, M.D., PhD., has the patent for a laboratory-testing method that identifies cancer patients who can benefit from new drugs designed to strengthen their immune systems. The testing could make it easier to test the effectiveness of new immunotherapy drugs. He had discovered that endothelial cells (artery-forming cells) die in a special way that involves release of highly calcified micro-particles. These escape from dying endothelial cells and trigger the body's normal immune response.

Read more about it: http://www.vasocell.com/MCED_Discovery.html

Training the immune system to fight cancer: http://cancerfocus.org/forum/showthread.php?t=4089

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  • geewhiz
    geewhiz Member Posts: 1,439
    edited February 2015

    Awesome news!!!

    Thanks!!

  • shelleym1
    shelleym1 Member Posts: 298
    edited February 2015

    gives me hope!!

  • JohnSmith
    JohnSmith Member Posts: 651
    edited January 2016

    The vasocell.com was a long read, but interesting.
    So, Larry Weisenthal claims to have discovered a diagnostic that determines which (if any) chemo will be effective.
    Essentially chemosensitivity testing, right?

    How does the vasocell.com article and chemosensitivity testing have anything to do with your blog post on Immontherapy?

    Some questions regarding vasocell.com and Larry Weisenthal's Personalized Cytometric Profiling (MCED) test:

    1. Aren't there a number of labs that do this, like Robert Nagourney's Rational Therapeutics?
    2. Has anyone here used his services? Who are the success stories? Are they cured?
    3. Wouldn't a better invention be "hormone-therapy sensitivity" testing or "Immunotherapy-sensitivity" testing?
    4. And why can't I find a wiki on Larry Weisenthal and his discoveries? Google generates 26 results for this simple boolean: "Larry Weisenthal" MCED

    According to his website, fees for personalized cytometric profiling range from $2000 to $8,000 and Medicare won't pay a penny.

    Hmmm.....

  • Meow13
    Meow13 Member Posts: 4,859
    edited February 2015

    looking for this type of treatment

  • gpawelski
    gpawelski Member Posts: 564
    edited February 2015

    The Oncotype DX test, along with other similar tests such as MammaPrint and Mammostrat are gene expression profile tests. So it's not "kinda" like them. However, there are a number of private Laboratory Oncology services that have been providing tests to determine if chemo will be effective in individual cancer patients (as opposed to average populations) for over thirty years.

    I'm sure if you read the information, testing for immunotherapy drugs has been in the wings for over 20 years. Just waiting for immunotherapy to catch on and a supply of FDA-approved drugs. While clinical trials provide the basis of efficacy for the drugs on average populations, this testing provides the basis of efficacy for individual patients.

  • Kathy044
    Kathy044 Member Posts: 433
    edited February 2015

    Here's a different Immunotherapy research program...and I am donating. [my husband passed away from cancer, there is so much more that needs to be done]

    And yes John Smith it's sort of like an oncotype test and for all cancers.

    http://bccancerfoundation.com/funds/immunotherapy

    <small quote>

    In the past five years, DNA sequencing has become extremely fast, accurate and cost effective, and it is now feasible to identify all the mutations in a patient's tumour within a few days. The BC Cancer Agency's Genome Sciences Centre (GSC) has rapidly become a world leader in the use of DNA sequencing to identify mutations in human cancer. This places the BC Cancer Agency in a unique position to develop a genomics-driven cancer immunotherapy program.

    Kathy

    ETA: the first step to doing clinical trials is to build a unique sterile T-cell production lab, hence the funding campaign


  • Meow13
    Meow13 Member Posts: 4,859
    edited February 2015

    Kathy I really believe this is how cancer will be cured.

  • gpawelski
    gpawelski Member Posts: 564
    edited February 2015

    Genotype is tumor analysis coupled with clinical trial literature search, which tries to match therapies to patient-specific biomarker information to generate a treatment approach. In other words, information that may help when considering "potential" treatment options (theoretical analysis).

    Phenotype "actually" measures the response of the tumor cells to drug exposure. Following this exposure, it measures both cell metabolism and cell morphology. The integrated effect of the drugs on the whole cell, resulting in a cellular response to the drug, measuring the interaction of the entire genome.

    Then endpoints (point of termination) of genotyping analysis are gene expression, examining a single process (pathway) within the cell or a relatively small number of processes (pathways) to test for "theoretical" candidates for targeted therapy.

    The endpoints of phenotyping analysis are expression of cell-death, both tumor cell death and tumor associated endothelial (capillary) cell death (tumor and vascular death), and examines not only for the presence of the molecular profile but also for their functionality, for their interaction with other genes, proteins and other processes occuring within the cell, and for their "actual" response to targeted therapy (not theoretical susceptibility).

    Again, the choice is theoretical vs actual analysis.

    Manipulating the body's immune system has proven to be the most powerful way to cure advanced cancer that cannot be cured by surgery, radiation and conventional chemotherapy treatments. Researchers now know how cancer cells die matters and if they can manipulate that death in a way that primes the body to destroy any cancer that returns will vastly improve cancer care.

    The concept of using the immune system against cancer dates back to the 1890s when Dr. William Coley, a New York surgeon, noted that some patients who got infections after cancer surgery fared better. He surmised that the immune response triggered by the infection was also working to eradicate cancer. The idea of cancer immunotherapy has been around really for at least 100 years.

    And even here, there appears to be near universal agreement that to achieve optimal benefit, immunotherapies should be combined with targeted cancer drugs or other immunotherapies in a multi-pronged attack.

    The body's immune system is constantly trying to keep tumors from forming or coming back. If you can give the immune system a boost in terms of helping out with that long-term surveillance, it could make more sense biologically.

    So, the consistent and specific cure or control of cancer will require multiple drugs administered in combination targeted to abnormal patterns of normal cellular machinery that effect or reflect malignant behavior. It is finding the patterns of malignant cells and developing a set of 5 to 10 drugs in order to cure or control cancer that classical clinical trials are not going to solve.

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