Can we have a forum for "older" people with bc?

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  • MomMom
    MomMom Member Posts: 523
    edited February 2015


    Welcome Diane.  You will find a lot of support here.  As you can see, there are lots of opinions here based on our own experiences.  However, the most relevant information is what your pathology report contains, as our very wise Jackie has already pointed out.  Once you have that information, then you'll be ready to seek opinions on the options that are available to you and your very specific situation.  There are SO many factors that go into making the important decisions you face - type and nature of the cancer, location of the cancer, staging, grade, lymph node involvement or not, whether or not your type of cancer requires any genetic testing, and if so, the results of that testing.  All of these factors play into whether your team of doctors will recommend a LX or an MX.  As has been pointed out, then there are your personal feelings about it and only you can decide what makes you most comfortable. 

    Sandra, what wonderful news your BCO friend has given you!  I feel that we all have our angels who are there for us at just the right moment, and she was surely the angel that delivered just the bit of information you needed at just the right time to put your mind at ease.  That you were in touch with her to begin with was no accident.  You "made" that happen with your generosity in offering her your support. 

    I still pray for my two breast cancer angels every day, and I tell them they are my angels every time I see them.  I was diagnosed a little over a year ago and knew because of the aggressive nature of my cancer (triple negative) that I would be doing the heavy duty chemo & rads.  One friend had been through the exact same chemo 23 years prior, and the other one had been through the same chemo 12 years prior.  They both told me that they had no significant issues with the chemo.  They tolerated it all - chemo, followed by radiation-very well indeed.  I didn't want to think or read about anyone else's tough road with chemo.  I knew that there were two personal friends who had done well on this chemo, and so would I!!!  Their positivity gave me positivity. 

    Blessings to all, especially you Blondie.  You are one tough cookie with a great spirit.

    Paula

     

  • Wren44
    Wren44 Member Posts: 8,585
    edited February 2015

    Just want to report that it is SUNNY here and they are predicting 2-3 days more sun to follow. Whoopee!!!

  • sandra4611
    sandra4611 Member Posts: 2,913
    edited February 2015

    Hi Diane, glad you've joined the BEST support and BEST friends you could ever want. These women have been a constant source of good advice about all kinds of life challenges, silly discussions and cartoons, poignant messages, a little teasing here and there, fun posts with photos of things in our past, much talk about our families - good and bad, cooking, exercise or lack of it, gardening, travel, home renovation, and lots about our "fur babies." Sometimes we talk about cancer too. We have a variety of opinions on EVERYTHING and feel free to express them unless it's politics or religion...those are a no-no here.

    I chose double mastectomy and have never been sorry. I was given my diagnosis on a Thursday afternoon and had to meet with the entire breast cancer team (one by one) on Monday morning. You can imagine how that weekend went. I chose several well respected websites - MD Anderson, Johns Hopkins, Cleveland Clinic, and Mayo Clinic - and started writing down the things they agreed upon and things they didn't. The things they agreed upon far outweighed the others. I put question marks in the margins to things I wanted to ask about or research further, erasing those marks when additional reading answered the question or made a situation clearer in my mind. By Monday I was ready. I knew that under no circumstances did I want radiation unless there was absolutely no choice. I have an aneurysm in the ascending aorta of my heart and an aortic valve that doesn't work right. Damage to the heart and other organs by radiation treatments is a fact and I wasn't willing to take a chance that it wouldn't make the situation worse. If I had a lumpectomy I would have to have radiation so that choice was out. I knew that while no one wants to lose a body part, my breasts had more than fulfilled their purpose and I would not be devastated to see them go. Although the tests showed cancer was only in one breast, I did not want to live the rest of my life worried about when or if the "other shoe would drop." It's a good thing I chose double mastectomy. The "good" breast was far from good and the pathology report showed it had another kind of cancer that had not been detected due to dense tissue - which no one had ever told me I had. I now know that this is unfortunately a common situation. Doctors in most states are now required to send patients with dense breast tissue a letter after they get a mammogram, telling them about the increased risk and advising additional testing. I have had no "buyers remorse" and know that while my choice was more aggressive than some other women would chose, for me it was right. The most important thing for you is to feel comfortable with your decision no matter what other women have done with your same diagnosis. Don't let doctors influence you to do something you aren't prepared for. They all have their personal preferences too.

     

  • sandra4611
    sandra4611 Member Posts: 2,913
    edited February 2015

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    Did you have them?

  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited February 2015

    Yes Sandra --- I had those and they were such great fun.  Actually, they didn't start out as mine.  My sister, 15 months older than me got them one yr. for her birthday.  She was not a well-co-ordinated person.  She couldn't skate, ride a bike well, use our hoola hoop, or really do much of anything that required balance for any length of time.  Since our family usually ( we were so close in age ) couldn't afford TWO of the same items --- I happily took over all the marvelous play-things of the slightly older child though I was actually the younger and mainly had them to myself. 

    I did go on to spend many happy hours at our local Roller Rink -- usually the far end person when it came time to play crack the whip ( thankfully we didn't do it too often ) but could stay on the rink for hours at a stretch and keep the beat of the music bouncing easily and making perfect turns at the corners.  Hmmm, now, I'd imagine just looking at skates too long ( not even on my feet ) would likely be able to cause me possibly tipping over. 

    Jackie  

  • bonnets
    bonnets Member Posts: 769
    edited February 2015

    My kids went to the local roller rink, but when we were kids we mostly skated with sidewalk skates! Like the ones pictures they had metal wheels, you wore the key around your neck. Aah yes, hopscotch, roller skating, playing Monopoly and Go to the Head of the class on thr front stoop. We were outside all day in the summer. Those were the days. We learned to entertain ourselves!

    Jean

  • Wren44
    Wren44 Member Posts: 8,585
    edited February 2015

    I had those skates and wish they would come back. I don't feel confident trying roller blades, but wouldn't mind skating a little on sidewalks.

    Bonnets, And jump rope. Don't forget jump rope. I think learning to run in when 2 people are turning a rope is where I learned to merge in traffic. Same kind of timing.

  • dianeaslm
    dianeaslm Member Posts: 25
    edited February 2015

    That's what I learned to skate on but don't have any now. Last time I roller skated at a local rink I fell on my bum and cracked my tail bone! Enough of that for me!

    For those of you on this thread that have had a BMx, I would love to how you feel now that the ladies are gone. Do you feel that you have felt a sense of relief knowing that the chances of recurrence are lower? (I know there's no guarantee). How hard was the recovery after the double MX? I am a DDDD cup and if I have only one removed I will be so lopsided. Any thoughts?

  • Vanmama
    Vanmama Member Posts: 103
    edited February 2015

    I am one who had a BMX...I have not regretted it one minute! One of my reasons was needing to think my chances of recurrence were lowered. I also had large breasts and felt that matching a prosthesis would be difficult. I didn't choose reconstruction because I didn't want to deal with extra surgeries/care and I'm 58 (almost 59) and wasn't worried about being flat.

    My recovery hasn't been bad. I've had good range of motion from the beginning, pain hasn't been too bad, and I've healed well once my drains were removed.

    I have been off work for 6 weeks and will be off one more, thinking the surgeon will at least release for that. I've had a few "issues", minor things, but nothing terrible.

    All that to say that I don't regret my BMX a bit!

  • dianeaslm
    dianeaslm Member Posts: 25
    edited February 2015

    Thank you Vanmama! Sounds like it's been pretty good, all things considered.


  • gemmafromlondon
    gemmafromlondon Member Posts: 138
    edited February 2015

    Vanmama - you are a beacon light for such positive thinking. My admiration and good wishes go with you.

  • Chevyboy
    Chevyboy Member Posts: 10,786
    edited February 2015

    Yes! Going back.... I had those skates, but mine had the metal wheels... And all around our neighborhood, we had "flag-stone" sidewalks, so they REALLY made a racket when we were out skating...Headphones And did you gals clip those "cards" on your spokes on your bicycles with clothes-pins, to get that extra noise? Ha, ha! The neighborhoods were so DIFFERENT now, than when I was a kid... No-one playing out-doors anymore, and running up and down the blocks playing hide and go seek at night... and playing catch in the streets...

    I live in the same neighborhood I grew up in, and seeing so many old homes being "scraped" and 2-3 story flat town-homes taking their place... with no yards! Guess that's progress, but I don't know how this younger generation can afford these new homes! We bought ours for $24,000..... And now we get people stopping by wanting to buy for $350,000. It's the area... Pretty close to down-town Denver, and minutes away from the highway, and the Mountains....

    It won't do US anygood, because we aren't leaving.... but it IS kind of fun being the "Seniors" of the neighborhood......

    I'm just glad this old house will be with us as long as WE are here... And I have the biggest yard in the neighborhood, for all my gardens.

    Morning Diane and Vanmama! Glad you guys are doing good! And good advice!

    Jean, that is right! All those games, with all of our friends! I LOVED playing Jacks with my friends..! And then My one Daughter was the school champ... Hah!

  • carolehalston
    carolehalston Member Posts: 6,887
    edited February 2015

    Good morning to all.  Happy Lundi Gras.  Lundi being Monday.  I remember when there were no parades on Mon. before Fat Tuesday.  It was a day to take a breather from all the revelry.  But now there are parades on Monday.  Today is a warmish day with highs in the 70's but rain is coming tonight and with it cold windy weather.  Tomorrow--Mardi Gras day-- looks miserable.  Very windy and highs in the 40's.  I hope to be comfortable here in my house.  I may work on our income tax return.

    Diane, my eyes popped at your bra size!  4 D?  I have already answered your question.  I am happy with my choice of BMX with immediate reconstruction.  I was never without "ladies."

    I grew up in the country with dirt/gravel roads.  No sidewalks or paved streets.  So the only roller skating I did was at a rink.  I was not a good skater and didn't go often enough to ever get good at skating.  So that picture brings no nostalgia.  I see some young people, mostly young women, skating on the paved bike paths up in MN during the summer.  It looks like great exercise.

    The YMCA where we exercise is closed tomorrow for Mardi Gras, so I will go this morning.  This afternoon I will probably deal with laundry and do some house cleaning. 

  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited February 2015

    Over the years I have come to believe that life is full of unchosen circumstances, that being human has to do with the evolution of our individual consciousness and with it, responsibilities for choice.  Pain and joy both come with life.  I believe that how we respond to what happens to us and around us shapes who we become and has to do with the psyche or the soul’s growth.  -Jean Shinoda Bolen

  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited February 2015

    Morning all,

    As to the question of double Mx.  Had I needed to do one side I would have asked to do the double.  I have not ever been overlg. but foolishly took hormones for the hot flashes -- the result, or so it seems to me in not so much size increase ( though there was some ) as the saggy, baggy droopy effect.  Had I been REALLY aware of that possibility -- I might have toughed it out.  Also, I don't know that the 'final' verdict was ever in since we and our responses are so individual, but I've always had some suspicion that taking hormones may have at some point encouraged cancer to begin.  Just guessing on my part and not meant to 'warn' anyone. 

    So, I don't feel a huge attachment to needing breasts.  One of the biggest reasons I was ok with just a lumpectomy at the time I needed my surgery was due to the fact that I had a stroke a few yrs. previous to the cancer.  My tumors ( a second one was discovered  during surgery )  were on the much weaker side and I had concerns about disturbing the tendons, muscles and connective tissue.  Also, my surgeon did tell me that in fact, treatment is the same --- whether a breast (s) are removed or just a lumpectomy is done.  So, many Dr.'s now advise ( though they will do whatever you the patient want ) breast sparing lumpectomies because if you need chemo and or radiation or both -- it will generally happen. 

     

    We did play a lot of hopscotch ( having all dirt sidewalks ) when younger.  Like Carole, where I grew up was in the main all dirt roads -- farther out of town there was gravel leading to most of the farms or other connecting roads to towns around us.  We did have one very long blacktop ( that was what we always called it too ) road.  This was done as it was the MAIN road all the way through town.  Everyone had a mail-box on that road and I think it was done mostly for the mail-man.  I had in so many ways an ideal childhood -- catching fireflies ( we called them lightning bugs ) and putting them in a jar.  Listening to toad frogs in the yard at night -- had to be careful going to the 'outhouse' or you'd step on them.  Picking wild berries in several little out of the way places around town -- learning to swim in the mind pond.  Had a foot or more of mud on the bottom and the water was ALWAYS muddy at the top.  My ears were good then and I could always here insects ( too loud sometimes ) buzzing -- and such joy to wake up to birds chirping.  There was such simplicity to being a carefree growing up kid then.  Some days if I get quiet I still can find some of those joys.

    Snow that started just about dark last night is falling still this a.m.  Not deep and it is not frozen so moves away well with the snow shovel.  We obviously are not getting through this winter without at least one 'deeper' snow -- though again, nothing remotely close to what so many others have gotten to the East coast areas.  It is pretty out here in the country and something ( as long as it doesn't get too deep ) that can be enjoyed.  I looked out my bedroom window when I first got up and saw where several deer had camped out for a rest on a flat spot in the big ravine next to the house.  They looked comfy actually ---  a really beautiful animal to watch when they are not disturbed by anything.

    Hope you are all going to have a really good day. 

    Blessings

    Jackie

  • MagicalBean
    MagicalBean Member Posts: 362
    edited February 2015

    Jackie, I loved reading your memories. I too remember lightening bugs in a jar, toads, frogs, trips to the outhouse at my Aunt Edith's. I lived in town but we still knew who had berries and which patches were "safe" and which ones had the curmudgeon peeking behind the curtains, waiting to catch us in the act.

    Eight years ago, my Mom was ill and my marriage was kaput, so I moved back to my childhood home to help Mom. When she passed, I stayed. A few years later my sister moved back home So now we share the old house where we grew up. It's such a comfort to see familiar sights out the living room windows. The neighbors are not the same but the sounds are. New kids race up and down the dead-end street. I love hearing their laughter and squeals. And there is nothing better than a stroll around the neighborhood on a soft summer night. Thanks for bringing that back to me on such a flipping cold day.

  • florida2015
    florida2015 Member Posts: 186
    edited February 2015

    is there a board on here for Long Island and NYC ladies?

  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited February 2015

    Florida -- I have no idea though we do have  some NY ladies here.  As I am on it and have been since my diagnosis, there is an Illinois Ladies thread -- but in truth, I seldom go anywhere but the Illinois thread and this one as I am 69 and came on this thread a long time ago.  These are the ones close to my heart.  You might ask the "mods " or Moderators.  I'm sure they would have a high awareness of whether or not there is an actual thread/forum devoted to just NYC and Long Island ladies. 

    Perhaps some from that area who post here might know and send you an answer.  If there is not -- feel free to re-visit here if you like.  We are "well" seasoned ladies, meaning a bit older -- 55 and beyond, and this thread came about as we sometimes have slightly different issues from the younger women.  If you are new and you do seem to be -- it may be confusing to try and go through all the forums and all the individual threads on them. 

    Hoping someone will chime in soon for you.  There is a wealth of information to be found and utilized here at BC. Org and know that we all hope you will find just what you need. 

    Blessings and care

    Jackie

  • shuf
    shuf Member Posts: 94
    edited February 2015

    I too remember the skating,kick ball, riding bikes,lightning bugs and just spreading a blanket to play barbies. Life and memories are awsome. Sandra trust in your doctor and you will do great. I know it is hard but you will grow as a woman and this to will be a positive memory. Find laughter! Shuf

  • Anneb1149
    Anneb1149 Member Posts: 960
    edited February 2015

    Good morning everyone

    Welcome Diane and Vanmama. Diane, you have been given good advice here, and the only thing I would add is that you "check out" your team once you get your full diagnosis. I was blessed that I had a connection to a Dr, a pediatric dermatologist, not a cancer Dr, but she had the ability to vet the Drs I was assigned to. They turned out to be leaders in their fields, and well known on a national level, so I put myself in their very capable hands. In my situation, they chose to do chemo before surgery, because I was not only Her2positive, I had 3x the usual amount of cells. I am sure I am not medically accurate in my description, but the Dr drew me pictures so I could understand. I also chose to have the double mastectomy with no reconstruction. My surgeon would not even talk about reconstruction for a full year after the surgery. I am a 65 year old widow with 5 children and six grandchildren (so far). Spending time with them is more important to me than giving more time to BC. My surgery was one year ago this past Jan 28th.

    I find there are some things I am not happy with at this point. I realize a lot of the things I am not happy with were there before my diagnosis, but having been thru the BC journey, I want the rest of my life to be a little better. My DD saw a program advertised online that our local hospital offers. It is called the Cancer Recovery Care Center and offers exercise, nutritional and counseling services, all specific to you and your needs. I definitely need the exercise portion - I have never exercised, but lived a pretty active lifestyle (5 kids, 6 grandchildren and a husband for 42 years, plus full time work in a middle school for 15 years) . Now, a walk around the mall does me in for the day. My youngest grandchild is going to DisneyWorld in 7 weeks and I need to build up some stamina for that. I have been in touch with the program, and am waiting to hear if I qualify for the grant, or if I will have to pay the $36/ mo fee. I just sent the forms back today. The man I spoke to said the program is exploding- they used to get about 25 people a month, now they are getting 10-12 people a week. I said tahrs because it is so badly needed.

    Moving on, yes ladies I do remember those skates, and used them often on the sidewalks in the Bronx growing up. Jump rope was another very popular activity and in Jr High, we would scarf down our lunches to have time to jump rope in thr schoolyard. At any given time, there would be 6-8 games going.

    I am enjoying being back home in Fl. Two grandchildren spent the whole weekend here, while the one that actually lives here spent two nights with his dad.

    Carole- so glad to hear tomorrow is Mardi Gras- that means Hot Cross Buns will be available this week. I wait, not so patiently, for them every year. One of my childhood memories that I love!

    Have a great day everyone.

    Anne

  • Wren44
    Wren44 Member Posts: 8,585
    edited February 2015

    Diane, This forum about bras and prostheses was started by a woman with very large breasts who had a bmx for medical reasons. She has some photos of before and after that you might find interesting.

    https://community.breastcancer.org/forum/82/topic/...


  • ohiofan
    ohiofan Member Posts: 206
    edited February 2015


    I, too, remember hopscotch, jacks, kick the can, and other neighborhood fun.  I was too uncoordinated to skate!  When skateboads came out, my mom was definitely better at it the my sister and I !!  Progress isn't always for the better.  Kids today may be able to "out computer" me, but I think we were able to handle social circumstances ourselves.  If you went home and said someone kicked you, your mom would ask what you did to deserve it. Now I can see helicopter parents all around us, as we are the old people in the neighborhood.  Nothing like our childhood...off of soapbox.

    It is -4 here this afternoon.  Had an appointment with PCP this morning....it was COLD!  With Ash Wednesday this week, can spring be far behind???

    Ohio

  • sandra4611
    sandra4611 Member Posts: 2,913
    edited February 2015
  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited February 2015

    Ah, I like that Sandra -----now if only we knew EXACTLY what those regrets were.....

    Jackie

  • Teacher64
    Teacher64 Member Posts: 840
    edited February 2015

    Diane - I too chose mastectomy. I had DCIS on one side and dense tissue on the other side, which had been on the "watch list" for several years. My cardiologist did not think radiation was a good option and I agreed. My husband and I agreed that removing the side that was still considered somewhat healthy was best. I had DIEP reconstruction because implants weren't going to be a good idea with my pacemaker. I have not regretted my choice. I did not have any healing issues. Whatever choices out make, will be right for you.

  • Deblc
    Deblc Member Posts: 479
    edited February 2015

    Hi Ladies,

    I have posted this in a few threads to raise awareness of this petition, as I think it's an important cause to all of us. But response has been slow and has basically stalled. I am wondering if many people are not seeing it, so I am now posting it in some of the active threads. I hope you don't mind me doing this. If so, I will delete it.

    Some of you might be familiar with Ann Silberman's great blog "Breast cancer...but doctor I hate pink", which has chronicled her journey from diagnosis to metastasis. I know many of us share her concern that Pinktober madness does not necessarily help towards BC research for a cure. She has started a change.org petition requesting that more fundraising dollars be allocated to finding a cure rather than just raising awareness. I am posting the link here, hoping that we all can support this cause, by signing the petition and sharing on social media. Thanks for your support !!

    https://www.change.org/p/keep-a-breast-foundation-...;


  • carolehalston
    carolehalston Member Posts: 6,887
    edited February 2015

    This is the "loot" dh and I collected at the Endymion parade on Sat. night. 

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  • carolehalston
    carolehalston Member Posts: 6,887
    edited February 2015

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    A picture of the Queen of Endymion.  Royalty do not toss throws.  Their floats come first.


     

  • carolehalston
    carolehalston Member Posts: 6,887
    edited February 2015

    The flambeau carriers of today carry "torches" fueled by bottled butane gas.  They carry the bottles strapped to their backs.

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  • carolehalston
    carolehalston Member Posts: 6,887
    edited February 2015

    A picture of dh and I, taken by a nice stranger who volunteered.

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