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  • Fourminor
    Fourminor Member Posts: 354
    edited February 2015

    Today I just burst into tears because I wanted my breast back. I'm now one week post op from my exchange and it looks amazing but I am so uncomfortable, particularly under the implant where he stitched a new inframammary fold. I can't walk more than a couple of blocks from the discomfort which is more than I had from the initial TE placement and mastectomy, something I did not expect. I'm also hot flashing every hour or two continuously from the Zoladex and that's not helping either. In a bra they look like a better match than my own two breasts; the only thing that can give me away is the dent under my armpit where they SNB was. But right now I'd take my old saggy one back if I could. I'm tired of hurting.

    I really hope I get to keep my right breast. I can't bear the thought of going through this a third time.

  • mefromcc
    mefromcc Member Posts: 188
    edited February 2015

    I completely sympathize with you, fourminor. My foobs are gorgeous, but, they are artificial and I almost cried myself on what I had done. And then that you are feeling the same way , well that did get me going.

  • hummingbirdlover
    hummingbirdlover Member Posts: 421
    edited February 2015

    OK, you guys are freaking me out as I'm writing down another slew of upcoming doctor's appointments and the surgery date - March 19. What am I doing? Is reconstruction the right decision? I may be flat right now but at least I'm relatively pain free, can sleep on my side again and feel pretty good! The SE from the tamoxifen seem to be getting better, im pretty much back to hot flashes only. I just wish I had a crystal ball. The thought of another surgery followed by however many months of discomfort really depresses me!

    Four, give it some time, I think/hope the new foob will settle in and feel better. You need time for it to all heal properly

  • Hopeful82014
    Hopeful82014 Member Posts: 3,480
    edited February 2015

    Four, ME and Hummer - I'll bet none of us thought all this would drag on this way, did we? All I can do is send sympathy and cyber-support, for what that's worth, but you've got it in abundance.

  • LeeLee52
    LeeLee52 Member Posts: 41
    edited February 2015

    Oh my gosh--I am so feeling you all right now, and so very sorry what this has done to all of us. Yesterday I sketched out a "worst case/best case" scenario timeline of when I will complete everything...and even the best case put me into 2016 and I just thought WTH. And again, I haven't even had to endure the chemo and radiation that so many of you brave ladies on here have. I wish strength to everyone traveling this extremely crappy path. No matter how upbeat we can try to be, it still just stinks. I did get good news last week in that the genetics testing came back negative and I was just so relieved, mostly for my 15 year old daughter. But I also couldn't quite get past the fact that it was not a 100% deal..it just eliminated the top 7 for me. So much unknown...so much more to learn. Yeesh.

  • sandra4611
    sandra4611 Member Posts: 2,913
    edited February 2015

    That crystal ball would be nice if it would show us both how it will be when we are finished and happy AND what we'll have to go through to get there so we can decide fairly. Is it going to be worth it? Depends on how far away you are from the darkest part of the journey.

    It's like somebody asking you if you are ready to get pregnant again right after you've given birth. HELL no! You need time and a little bit of perspective before you can answer that question.

    The fact is that some of us seem to breeze through it all. You've read about women like me who had a double mastectomy, didn't think it was a big deal and took only Tylenol and another woman who was on heavy duty pain drugs for weeks. Then there's the person who has a "drive thru" exchange and goes back to work the next day while I couldn't seem to turn the corner for four weeks. You just can't tell how it's going to go. Just because you had a tough time with the mastectomy doesn't mean you will have an equally hard time with reconstruction and vice versa. Some people are happy at every stage and some are miserable. Is it worth it? No one can tell you.

    I'm only two months out from the final surgery (#6) so maybe I'll have a different opinion next year when this is all a blur. While I am very pleased with how it turned out, it was NOT worth five more surgeries over 15 months to get here. Dealing with the minor challenges that go along with being flat would be like a walk in the park. But, that's just me.

  • Fourminor
    Fourminor Member Posts: 354
    edited February 2015

    I can't answer for anyone else. I wasn't willing to have my presumably healthy breast removed although I did agonize over that decision. At every step of the way I have been thankful to only be dealing with one side--having my dominant arm helped me get up from lying down the first couple of weeks, become independent again more rapidly, and when I was at the TE phase, i was thankful to still be able to sleep normally on my right. And yet, I can only pray that I will be able to keep it and won't need to someday be starting this entire path over again or worse. I took the chance that life won't be that cruel and i can have half of my chest still me even if gravity wins someday.

    That said i wasn't willing to be flat on just one side. I really liked my breasts and i'm kind of curvy, so I wanted something there. And for me it did help when I finally looked at myself after the mastectomy to see that there was already something there--a work in progress were my husband's words. Within two fills i was close enough that in winter clothes there was nothing for anyone to really notice. But by the time I was fully expanded it looked and felt like a baseball. It wasn't going to work in summer clothing. It was a major bummer when I thought I was doing chemo and have to wait until the end of the summer to finish reconstruction.

    I'm happy with how things look and i don't regret my choice at all, but the thing about cancer is no matter what you choose its not what you really want. What I really want was for this never to happen. And that's why I was crying. I don't just want my breasts back, i want my ovaries to work. I want my mojo. I want all of it back. But this is how things are now.

  • Hopeful82014
    Hopeful82014 Member Posts: 3,480
    edited February 2015
    I think you hit the nail on the head with your last paragraph, Four Minor. What we want is not to have to make these choices, as none of them are good choices. And then we're supposed to be good sports about it all.

    Should we declare a one day pity party for the holiday tomorrow? I can't attend due to work load but would be happy to contribute cyber cupcakes with cherries on top in honor of George Washington.
  • sandra4611
    sandra4611 Member Posts: 2,913
    edited February 2015
  • Hopeful82014
    Hopeful82014 Member Posts: 3,480
    edited February 2015
    wow, do you ever know how to throw a party, Sandra. I hope it lifts everyone's spirits as much as it does mine. and what a great Couple of quotes.
  • Akitagirl
    Akitagirl Member Posts: 142
    edited February 2015

    Good morning everyone,

    Thank you, Sandra! Great quotes!

    I am done with my pity party - held it over the weekend. Laid flat on my back all day yesterday...on my birthday. Happy crappy 43 for me.

    No tastebuds, but I am so hungry. No energy, but I am so restless. Wished that I could have just had a bottle of wine to sleep through it all. But no, laid there in misery watching the snowflakes from my bed.

    So this morning...not feeling too much better, but I am refusing to lie in bed. Made my husband make the bed as soon as I got up and am now working today. Still no tastebuds, but at least I am sitting up in my chair trying to be productive.

    I am so sorry that everyone is having such a difficult time with the surgeries, decisions, etc. I agree with Hopeful - Sandra hit the nail on the head by saying that none of us want to choose any of this. We want our lives back. Hit rewind to the day before we were diagnosed and then hit pause - forever.

    Hang in there everyone!

    Happy Presidents Day - R.

  • Hopeful82014
    Hopeful82014 Member Posts: 3,480
    edited February 2015
    Dear Robyn -Belated birthday wishes. Your new year has almost nowhere to go but up - and I hope that by the end of it you will find yourself soaring again.

    J
  • Fourminor
    Fourminor Member Posts: 354
    edited February 2015

    Happy Birthday Robyn!


  • Fourminor
    Fourminor Member Posts: 354
    edited February 2015

    I have spent my pity party in pajamas all day watching Love it or List it. I even ate an extra piece of pizza. Oh and I let my son play Lego Batman on his iPod for like 4 hours. We were all so happy. Outside its like 10 degrees for the third day in a row, so we can't even feel guilty about it.


  • revup-65
    revup-65 Member Posts: 94
    edited February 2015

    Hopeful8201… I will second everything you said,
    I'm a bit nervous about starting to make all these permanent changes to my body - not that it can be avoided but it doesn't mean I have to LIKE it, I feel the same way. I know you, with the courage you have shown,  will come out great on the other side of all this. My thoughts will be with you also. I hope we all have a non eventful week, with some peace. No new surprises.

  • mefromcc
    mefromcc Member Posts: 188
    edited February 2015

    I feel 200% better just because I am home. I'm glad you are embracing your pity party. That is the only way I can get through mine, by accepting it.

  • hummingbirdlover
    hummingbirdlover Member Posts: 421
    edited February 2015

    Mefromcc, am I reading that correctly? Did you just have reconstruction surgery on the 12th?!?! If so, how are you doing?

    Happy belated Robyn. Seems like so many of us have spent our birthdays this year in the middle of this mess. Huge kudos to you on getting out of bed today, not sure I could have. I Like your new picture!

    All of you are so great. This board, and the friendships I've made here are such a blessing to me. Thank you all for being here.

  • mefromcc
    mefromcc Member Posts: 188
    edited February 2015

    Yep, I had a delayed Diep with bilateral mini trams last Thursday. My PS did not want to do the Diep until I had healed enough from the BMX. However, my DH and I had things planned for January, so I didn't schedule anything until February.

  • hummingbirdlover
    hummingbirdlover Member Posts: 421
    edited February 2015

    And how are you? How would you compare to BMX surgery so far

  • mefromcc
    mefromcc Member Posts: 188
    edited February 2015

    I am more disabled. I can't bring my body up past a point, nor pull my legs up beyond a certain point.

  • Hopeful82014
    Hopeful82014 Member Posts: 3,480
    edited February 2015

    Mefromcc - Welcome back home. You get an extra cupcake (they're around here, somewhere, unless FourMinor and her clan ate them all while they watched the snow fall). Have some of the ice cream straight from the container, too, if that's not too cold for you. Indulgence is well known for its healing properties. :)

    Revelle, thank you for your support and encouragement. It means a lot to me, and especially just now.

    Sorry I had to miss most of the party due to a heavy day at work. Many thanks to Super Sandra for stepping in with cyber refreshments and seriously worthwhile words of wisdom.

    Oh, and did everyone read the study listing bitchiness as a common side effect of breast cancer? ;)

    I have an appt. with my surgeon tomorrow to see what she thinks of the latest US and start planning surgery. At least this time it won't be threatened by snow or ice...

  • Fourminor
    Fourminor Member Posts: 354
    edited February 2015

    Ha ha where is that study? I have noticed that my tolerance for narcissistic people is at an all time low and that is something i don't mind AT ALL.

  • Hopeful82014
    Hopeful82014 Member Posts: 3,480
    edited February 2015

    Four - it was a very small study - accrual of one. Observational only. ;) I'm certain it would be a slam dunk to replicate the results, however.

    I hope everyone's holding their own through all these snow and ice storms. Does all of this get anyone a pass from shoveling snow?

  • ThinkingPositive
    ThinkingPositive Member Posts: 834
    edited February 2015

    Happy Belated Birthday Robyn!! Hope you are starting to feel better since you posted.

    Seems like you are having difficulty with your 4th treatment..same as me. It must build up?? Its been two weeks and I still feel like a mess. Taste is way off, tears are pouring out of my eyes and they are so sore underneath from blotting them with a tissue, and I ache all over. Tissue Expander is driving me crazy, it seems that when I get a fill, it makes my cording worse, when I move my arm I can feel it in the tissue expander... weird feeling. I am so tired of it. I have one more fill and it just feels like its going to explode.

    Keep in touch!!

    Hugs..Karen

  • Hopeful82014
    Hopeful82014 Member Posts: 3,480
    edited February 2015
    Karen, so sorry that you are in such a rough patch, too. Do you have two more rounds to go? However many, hang in there. we can't do much byt support you from afar, but you've certainly got that.

    Thanks for your update. Hugs.

    PS That's pretty bad when the skin under your eyes is raw. I'm so sorry.
  • sandra4611
    sandra4611 Member Posts: 2,913
    edited February 2015

    So much pain. No one understands like we do.

  • Hopeful82014
    Hopeful82014 Member Posts: 3,480
    edited February 2015
    Sandra, I've been thinking of you and Mike. How are things going for both of you? Here's a hug for you to stash away and use as needed. Same for Karen and everyone else. ((((. ))))
  • sandra4611
    sandra4611 Member Posts: 2,913
    edited February 2015

    I'm exhausted but the house isn't ready yet so there's no rest in sight. My daughter Allison is here from Chicago and we are working all day every day to turn this 40 year old house into the dust free, dirt free, mold and spore free environment he must have after the bone marrow transplant. Mike had his first 5 days of chemo and did fine but WOW is he grouchy!

  • Hopeful82014
    Hopeful82014 Member Posts: 3,480
    edited February 2015

    Glad he did fine but it sounds like this is as grueling for you (and Allison) as it is for him, albeit in differing ways. Do you have anything like Cleaning for a Reason available to help?

  • sandra4611
    sandra4611 Member Posts: 2,913
    edited February 2015

    Down the line we may be able to get that service but for now it's more than basic cleaning. Once we get the big stuff done, we can move on to things like washing walls and baseboards. We spent a lot of time yesterday pulling up tack boards and nails around the perimeter of the concrete slab which used to have carpet. A tile guy is coming to put in the new floor next week but will charge extra to get the concrete ready. Anything we can do ourselves means saving money. It was very labor intensive. I also cleaned the slab with bleach and that took forever because my eyes kept burning even though the window was open and the fan was on. Also we had to chop out half of the shrubs along the front walk up to the house so we can get a wheelchair past. Had to fix some concrete cracks too so the wheelchair wheels wouldn't get stuck. We are packing up all kinds of "dust catchers" so it will be easier to keep the house clean once he is home. It's never ending but we do seem to be making progress.

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