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  • Beachbum1023
    Beachbum1023 Member Posts: 1,417
    edited February 2015

    Hi kbram, hopefully you will bounce back, and your son will feel better. I have stayed in as much as possible because of all the winter flu, sniffles, and colds. I had my shots, but I am not taking any chances! I finished chemo 11/25 but I am now doing rads and I want to get done. My blood work is coming in clean, close to where I was before the chemo. But I see the Doctors, go to rads and not much else. I shop late right before close, and hide. So since I do this myself, it's probably better than having to stay in. But I am going a bit crazy with cabin fever. My blood pressure has been really low, and I am still fighting that. I finally got back to decent after going down to 70/34. The fatigue has been rough. Let's hope winter ends soon! But I live on Lake Erie, so we have plenty of lake effect snow to come!

  • Chloesmom
    Chloesmom Member Posts: 1,053
    edited February 2015

    AM lurking on this site although participating in Feb chemo list. It's been helpful for me to see how you are all managing. I just sent in my disability forms. Can't imagine being around snuffy kids in a daycare week 2 of these cycles. I slept week 1 while on Compazine, Ativan and Zofran to control nausea. I'm just wondering when all is done in April 3 weeks after the hopefully last infusion, how long it will really take to get the energy back to be working 10 hour active days etc.

    found would what happens when who us don't drink enough. I call it the burning butt. Worst diaper rash ever. Needless to say am drinking now!

  • Beachbum1023
    Beachbum1023 Member Posts: 1,417
    edited February 2015

    Chloesmom, I finished AC/T on 11/25. That was my last infusion. I had surgery 12/15. I started rads 1/26. If you are drinking water, drink more. I will drink 4+ bottles a day, more during chemo. Jell-o, juices, popsicles, all count in the liquid amount. But staying hydrated will help a lot to flush your system. The better you can control the side effects, the better it will be be. I carry a water bottle everywhere I go along with lemon drops for dry mouth. Chemo is cumulative, so the fatigue will keep going. Try to rest as much as possible. Everyone here will help you, just ask. Since everyone has a different reaction, you will have to listen to what your body wants, and decide when you can go back to work. Good Luck!

  • Brandi999
    Brandi999 Member Posts: 143
    edited February 2015

    Last night I got my head henna'd by a friend of mine. Mine was the first head she's ever done so she was really excited and it turned out pretty cool. Today I had chemo #3 of the A/C so yay for being 75% done with those! I'm just swigging the water at this point.

  • TortyLass
    TortyLass Member Posts: 43
    edited February 2015

    Brandi999 - I plan to have my head henna'd as well! Would love to see it!

  • thecolorpurple
    thecolorpurple Member Posts: 126
    edited February 2015

    Hello BC sisters!

    In reading your posts, I was warned that losing my hair would be emotional. For the first time all this has caught up to me. I cried like a baby yesterday when I got home from work as my hair was coming out in clumps at work. Last night my husband Jim shaved my head and I felt pretty good about that. But then I woke this morning and was sobbing again. So I guess I've been a little bit of an emotional wreck the last two days. Brandi and TortyLass I think that's a great idea to have your head hennaed. That sounds absolutely beautiful. You will both have to post the pictures of the artwork when it's all done we would all love to see it.

    Tomorrow I am back for AC treatment number two. Admittedly I am a bit nervous.

    I appreciate your listening and being there for me and all the support this group provides. You're all wonderful. Tomorrow after my infusion a few of my girlfriends are coming over to sit and visit and do some knitting and crocheting. We are all nurses so I know they can look after me if something goes awry.

    Thinking of you all. Love, Kristin

  • mommacat4
    mommacat4 Member Posts: 215
    edited February 2015

    Hello everyone,

    it's been a few days since I have been on here. I really get behind on the conversation that way. None the less it's great to read all your comments. I am so sorry to hear all the horrible Se's going on But the care advise sounds really great from all of you.

    I too am getting ready for round 3 of the AC cocktail tomorrow. After reading that many of you had a rougher time with round 3 I am a bit nervous about it.

    I am not sure I understand the oil pulling thing but I will try to look it up online. I have heard that coconut oil is very good for many things. As a matter of fact I use it when cooking many foods. Also, I went to my health food store after my acne breakout after my 1 chemo treatment and asked them what I should put on my face to help and they told me organic all natural coconut oil. I put it on my face 2 times and the acne was cleared up.

    I wish all of you well and good luck with treatments this week everyone.

    I would love to meet all of you as well. I think that's a great idea.

    Hey, has the monkey been named yet? She is soooo cute.

  • SweetHope
    SweetHope Member Posts: 439
    edited February 2015

    Oh Kristin, I wish I was near to hand you a tissue, pat your shoulder and have a good cry with you. This is emotional. This is certainly worth a day or two of tears. I'm amazed that you are still working.

    My AC #2 was uneventful. I just slept even more than first round. Hope your chemo week is uneventful, too. It's great to have your friends over. Maybe you all could plan a henna party soon. Have you seen the website for the crocheted foobs to donate to BC gals?

    I agree that pictures should be posted of these henna heads. I bet they are beautiful, and what fun!

    Mommacat, thanks for another good reason to have coconut oil. I think the stuff is amazing for cooking and to use on my dry skin and to add to my coffee for relief of the Big C. What's your name for our cutie monkey?

  • thecolorpurple
    thecolorpurple Member Posts: 126
    edited February 2015

    Good luck tomorrow, Cat! we are thinking of you and sending all the best :)

    Sweethope, I am so glad you are feeling good this go round. I know you suffered with the first one. I will tell the girls about the crochet Foobs. I will google that tomorrow. Thanks for your sweet reply. I am all packed and ready to go for AC 2. House clean, all new bedding, bag packed. Feel much better, too. I think I just needed a good cry.

    Cheryl, our fearless leader, how are you feeling?

    Jenn, how are you?

    Marjo, did your flu like symptoms get better?

    K

  • thecolorpurple
    thecolorpurple Member Posts: 126
    edited February 2015

    Brandi, how are you doing? Good job on the water. try to post a pic of the henna tattoos if you are up for it.

    hope you are feeling ok and the SEs are under control.


  • Beachbum1023
    Beachbum1023 Member Posts: 1,417
    edited February 2015

    Good morning thecolorpurple, I hope you have sunny blue skies and a smile on your face today. You got this!!

    I'm glad you have friends coming over to sit and keep you company. Some girl chat will take your mind off everything BC. AC is tough, I know how hard it is, and losing hair when you feel like crap is very emotional. But you will get through this, and your hair will be back. Mine started to grow after the first Taxol. I have very soft hair coming back, it's almost 1" long. So far it's straight, dark brown and gray. I dyed my hair for so long I was surprised when it started to grow and it wasn't blonde!! OMG!

    Not every day is a winner, let us all know when it's not and we will be here for you!

  • RV6gal
    RV6gal Member Posts: 331
    edited February 2015

    Chloesmom, I was originally told by my oncologist that it takes about 2months after chemo to feel ok for a return to work. I am on disability right now and that will be my plan. Having said that and hearing how we all affected differently by side effects, I'm thinking them same can be said for a return to work too. My job is not too physical so that factor plays role as well I'm sure.

    I had my third infusion today which went well however the fatigue hit me about 3 hours later and I had to go to bed. Wasn't expecting it so quickly and so definitely, wow! Thankfully going to bed was possible! Slept for 3 hours! I am upping the stool softener and senokot as I am hoping to avoid the horrible constipation I had last time.

    A positive thing I have found about my hair loss is when I am dealing with a hot flash, I get up and walk around the house. The breeze/air that flows over my head helps me cool off sooner! LOL I tend not to use the wig I have because I do feel hot quite a bit.

    Beachbum1023, how are you doing with the rads? I heard fatigue is a big SE too?

    Hope everyone is doing reasonably well all things considered. Wishing us all a good night

  • Beachbum1023
    Beachbum1023 Member Posts: 1,417
    edited February 2015

    Good evening RV6gal, I had rads #12 and it's turning pink/red and the skin feels like it's a sunburn. I have 16 more to go, so not fun! I can feel the skin pulling since it feels tight. But from all the others that I talk to, this is the best it will be until it's over. And the burning continues for several weeks after. I am not looking forward to this getting worse. I already had lingering fatigue from chemo and surgery, and rads is adding to it. But the heart damage contributes to it as well. So I have a mixed bag of tired!

    I'm glad you are hanging in there, sounds like you have the SE on the run! And sleep is always good. I hope you feel well.

  • Brandi999
    Brandi999 Member Posts: 143
    edited February 2015

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    Here's the side view of my henna. My friend isn't the best artist in the world but she enjoys what she does and it's a fun look. This is when the paste was still on my head. I let it dry and put a sleeping cap over it so it was nice and dark when I washed it all off. Fun times and happy to see my gobbler isn't too large in this side view. LOL!! So far this go around NO BIG C!!!! I can't even tell you how elated I am by this. Worst side effect ever to deal with (so far). Also some woman whom I don't know is going to crochet me a cabbage patch yarn wig. I am so stoked! It's going to be cute and hilarious. I can't wait to show you all. Heehee!

  • SweetHope
    SweetHope Member Posts: 439
    edited February 2015

    Brandi, you have a beautiful profile...what are you talking about - a gobbler?! Love the henna head. Such fun! Must have felt like being back at a beauty shop getting your hair done. Boy I miss those days.

    I still have a lot of prickly hairs that won't give up and leave. They are sensitive and keep waking me up at night. Can't wear my wig cause it hurts. Damn chemo!

    Hope you all have a great, relaxing, SE free day.


  • PMR53
    PMR53 Member Posts: 452
    edited February 2015

    Good Morning to All!!

    I am reading and following everyone! Has anyone noticed blurry vision? I sure have this week. That and the inside of my nose is shedding in pieces. Weird SE. Starting to feel better after #2 before 3 gets here. We are making progress!!!

    Just wanted to tell something funny. Went to class Look Good Feel Good. Met some great ladies and got to help one lady who was so bummed about missing eyebrows Anyways, the sponsors forgot the mirrors for each patient. It was hilarious trying to put the makeup on with the itty bitty mirrors in the compacts.

    Have a great day!!

    Patty

  • dimccleland
    dimccleland Member Posts: 59
    edited February 2015

    Hey ladies ... hope you are all having a good day 😀 Well, I'm nearly done with my chemo for today ... Taxol infusion 4/12 plus Herceptin and Perjeta this week ... only 8 more to go!

    My MO is happy with my progress ... my liver seems to be coping and while my liver function is still not back to normal, it is coming down every week. My WBC is still good around 4.1 and my Neutrophils are also still okay around 2. she checked the "beast" - it has shrunk in the last three weeks and feels a lot softer. So, despite all the side-effects Taxol has thrown at me, it's sound it's job

    She's still undecided about whether we will do AC straight after the Taxol or whether I will have surgery first - she'd definitely prefer for me to finish the chemo but it all depends on whether my liver plays ball.

    Question, how are you all dealing with sick family members ... my husband has a cold at the moment and I have relegated him to the spare room ... he's getting really irritated with me because I won't go hear him and I'm getting really irritated with him because he's behaving like he's on death's door ... man-flu at it's worst!!! Suggestions welcome ... I did offer to put him out of his misery lastnight, he wasn't impressed 😊

  • dimccleland
    dimccleland Member Posts: 59
    edited February 2015

    PMR53, I've had blurry vision on and off since I started the Taxol, in fact I feel as if my eye-sight has got worse. will be really peeved if it has because I spent a fortune on new glasses and lenses about six weeks before I was diagnosed 😌

    I've also had a permanently drippy nose and sores in side my nose. I read a pat on another thread where someone recommended using Aquaphor cream in your nose. Just put a little on an earbud and put it into your nose. Has definitely given me some relief ... let me know if you try it and it works xx

  • PMR53
    PMR53 Member Posts: 452
    edited February 2015

    Dimcecleland: I think it might be from Taxotere or in your case Taxol? I have same sores in nose. I will try Aquaphor. I had bought some. Same on vision problems. It bums me out makes it hard to read paper or see Tv. Sure hope it is reversible. Definitely reporting it to my MO. How many cycles are you planning on?

    Patty

  • Brandi999
    Brandi999 Member Posts: 143
    edited February 2015

    Sweethope I still have a lot of stubblies too and they are really coarse. Yuck! Some hats I wear kind of hurt because of those. I was thinking maybe every time I have another chemo more will fall out. I still have leg and arm hairs too but they are all hard to see so whatever.

    dimccleleand, I wish I had some good advice for you. My honey is so paranoid about getting me sick, he wears a face mask and gloves at work during shift changes, strips in the garage, and takes a shower in the guest bathroom. If he got sick he has prearranged that he would literally trade houses with a friend of ours to avoid getting me sick! Sometimes it's a little overboard but your husband needs a doctor to tell him that during certain times of your treatment, his sickness could hospitalize and kill you. That's the truth.

  • RV6gal
    RV6gal Member Posts: 331
    edited February 2015

    I am chiming in to say that I have also had blurry vision since Chemo#2.I mentioned it to my oncologist and they suggested using eye drops to moisturize/lubricate them.I have used the drops sparingly (because I don't like the feeling of them) but need to use them more to see any benefit I think.

    Brandi999, love the henna.It looks great on you!

    Beachbum1023, it sounds like Rads are just as challenging in a different way unfortunately.Sounds like everything you have faced is making them a bit of a test. Are you allowed to put any cream or moisturizer on the area?I have really fair skin and expect it will burn quite a bit.I go on March 30th to find out how many treatments they have planned for me. I was told initially Rads tend to be done in sessions of 16, 20, 25, or 30 here but I don't know what information they use to decide that.I guess I will find out though.Wishing you a quick journey to get them done!!

    Dimccleland, hubby needs to give you some space while he is sick.I had a sinus cold for most of cycle 2 and it takes us a lot longer with many risks to overcome it. We can't take the usual slow release cold medicines. Lucky I didn't have any significant complications other than pink eye and total misery (headache, sore sinuses and very sore throat) but it was a long 2 ½ weeks.I'm going to be extra, extra careful this time around.

    Wishing everyone a great day.

  • Beachbum1023
    Beachbum1023 Member Posts: 1,417
    edited February 2015

    Hi RV6gal, I had the blurry vision during chemo but I used the eye drops and it has since come back. Use the drops and see if it helps you. The rads are a challenge for sure. Mine looks a bit dark and pink today. My armpit hurts also. The range of motion is tight, and I had it going well after surgery. So they told me to exercise. Oh sure!! I have 28, and then she will look at the skin to see if I can do 5 boosts at the end. Can't wait for that one. We use 100% clear Aloe Gel. Once it starts to burn we are supposed to use Aquaphor. They give us samples of that. $80,000 worth of rads and we get free samples of cream, uh priceless! And we are supposed to wear soft tee shirts because all the gels and creams wreck your clothes, uh priceless. Back to Goodwill to get more tees..........

  • kbram
    kbram Member Posts: 185
    edited February 2015

    Hi everyone!  Treatment #2 of AC is done!  Glad it is over but not looking forward to the next few days.

    Brandi, you look great!  You are so brave to do the henna, not sure I could do that.  So glad you could tune into your creative side to deal with cancer side effects!  That's awesome!

    Beachbum, I am anxiously waiting for any info from you on your experience with radiation.  I will start it sometime in April for 33 treatments.  I did not have radiation my first time with breast cancer, so I am somewhat apprehensive.  Any info is greatly appreciated.

    Dimccleland, I can understand your concern about sick family members.  My son has been sick with what appears to be just a cold and he is keeping to his room with limited movement around the rest of the house and family.  We do what we can to stay away from illness but sometimes it is not enough.  My husband threatened to send him to a hotel!

    To all others, hang in there!  My hair is coming out by the handfuls and I was emotional at first.  Hope I can hang on to it for my neulasta shot tomorrow and then I'll probably shave it.  Just cannot stand to have hair all over me.  Emotional, yes, but I will not let down my shield of strength.  As people say, it is just hair!  I never really had a breakdown moment with my second diagnosis, although this could be it......

    Love and strength to all, Kathy

     

  • cubbieblue
    cubbieblue Member Posts: 68
    edited February 2015

    RV6gal, can I ask why you say we can't take the slow release cold medicines?  That is the first time I've heard that, and I see people posting on here all the time about taking Claratin which I think comes 12-hour or 24-hour.  Or am I completely misunderstanding your post? Thanks!

  • Beachbum1023
    Beachbum1023 Member Posts: 1,417
    edited February 2015

    Kbram, I had rads #13 today. I feel like I have the start of a sunburn, the skin is hot to the touch and looks like it's a brownish pink. I slather on the Aloe Gel 100% 5 to 6 times a day and wear large baggy tee shirts over it. The techs said that it looks good, most of the burns start at the end of week 3. The skin damage is cumulative, and will continue for several weeks after the end of rads. I am not wearing a bra or anything tight. I am doing my arm exercises because the skin feels tight down the arm and the armpit is tight. But so far so good. No shaving the armpit, but since my mastectomy most of the hair has moved to my upper chest. Side effect from surgery I guess. :) No deodorant either during rads. So I hope it continues, and I make it to the end without any burns. My other rad pal has a pretty bad rash and her armpit hurts but she is done on Monday. I have 28 total so I will keep you posted.

    As far as the hair goes, I buzzed mine off before any of it fell out. I had already picked up my wig, so it was my way of not giving in I guess. And I was so glad when it was gone, and I could go on. Now I wash her once a week, and flat iron and go. I love it. So easy and the last thing I want to do when I feel crappy is fuss with hair. So for me the custom wig was the best for me. And the cost was close to what I would have spent for the year anyway. So a huge win.

    It is scary when we spend so much time on our hair all of our lives, but the time goes fast. My hair started to grow back after I started Taxol. It's almost 1" long already. And my eyelashes are coming in thick and full. I can actually wear mascara!! And you will again too. Take care of yourself, it did go faster than I thought it would.

  • RV6gal
    RV6gal Member Posts: 331
    edited February 2015

    cubbieblue, Claritin is ok. I should have been a bit more clear that you can't take slow release cold medicines that include pain or fever relief because it can mess with your temperature readings. What I took was extra strength decongestant and regular Tylenol as I needed it. About mid-way through I used a Neti pot several times a day which really helped. I have a conair facial steamer that I used also as that seem to loosen up the tight feeling I had in my throat and chest. Finally I began to gargle with salt water when my throat felt like pins and needles. I took my temp several times a day worrying it was going to send me to the hospital but the highest temp I got was 37.8 Celsius. Phew!! The worst part is that it took all of what little energy I had. Feeling loads better but still tired.

    Beachbum1023, thanks for all the tips on rads. You have been so helpful throughout with great advice

  • spookisgirl
    spookisgirl Member Posts: 96
    edited February 2015

    Hi all,

    As far as side effects, I seem to be getting passed them. My back has almost worked out all it's kinks too.

    I am really upset right now. I got a call from my oncologist, who I am supposed to see tomorrow, because she just realized that my port placement is scheduled for Monday and feels that is too soon after an infusion on Friday, so she wants to delay my second infusion until Tuesday. What is upsetting with all this is that when I got the date for my port placement from my surgeon I immediately contacted them to ask if my oncologist was aware because it seemed too soon after my second infusion (my port placement was supposed to be scheduled just before). The surgeon's office told me that it was the only date available, and that my oncologist's office was aware and had no problem with the date, which is apparently not the case.

    I am upset because I do not want to delay my infusion for my port placement, and even went out of my way to make sure everybody was ok so that wouldn't happen. This is like adding an extra 5 days to my chemo 'sentence' and I am having a hard enough time dealing with the 3 week wait between infusions. It also means I would have to reschedule almost all my appointments over the next little while. Tuesday infusions also really messes up my dance schedule.

    On top of all that, I am really not even sold on getting a port in the first place, and now it is delaying my treatment. To me, chemo is the priority. I want to get it over with. I would much rather delay getting the port than delay chemo. I can understand delaying chemo because my counts aren't up, but to delay it for something elective (which is how I see the port, as my veins are good--I just don't have enough in one arm for 16 treatments) is extremely upsetting.

    Is anyone else having a hard time with the waiting between treatments? It seems most of you are on 'dose dense' protocols that are every 2 weeks, and I can see how that would be easier. Right now I feel like I have about a week of bad side effects, then two weeks waiting--waiting for more side effects, my hair to finish falling out, my next treatments, my life to resemble something normal....

    I see my oncologist tomorrow, and we are going to discuss it more. She didn't expect me to be upset about the delay, so she was surprised when I was. She was thinking it might be ok to go ahead as I have a track record for dealing well with anesthesia, and my side effects haven't been too bad and it's a short procedure. I really hope we do go ahead as planned.

    Am I crazy to be this upset about adding 5 extra days?

  • Beachbum1023
    Beachbum1023 Member Posts: 1,417
    edited February 2015

    Hi Spookisgirl, so you would have the port placed on Monday and the infusion on Tuesday? I have a Smart Port that was placed on a Thursday and used on Tuesday. But I had dose dense, so every other week for me. The extra five days doesn't sound bad to me, but I get the fact that you want done sooner rather than later. But AC/T is pretty toxic, and you only have two arms. I would wait for the port if it was me. I had surgery so with the node removal I cannot use needles or BP on my right arm any more. So I would rather keep my veins since I can only use 1 arm. I hope they get this all figured out for you, who needs more frustration when you already have plenty!

  • spookisgirl
    spookisgirl Member Posts: 96
    edited February 2015

    Hi Beachbum,

    I also can't have my right arm used for anything. I am not against getting the port--just against getting it causing delays in chemo. I have done one infusion without it with no issues, a second or third wouldn't be bad, if the port can't be placed until later.

    I am hoping for better news from my oncologist tomorrow. I find there is a lot of mental prep getting ready for an infusion and to delay for so long is just completely throwing that off for me.

    Jenn

  • Beachbum1023
    Beachbum1023 Member Posts: 1,417
    edited February 2015

    Spookisgirl, I agree, all the appointments, treatments, and chemo is very mental. I really have to be game on to get though all of it. Good Luck!

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