October 2014 Surgery Sisters
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Revelle, you don't need to apologize, nor do you need to censor yourself. I'm angry about having it but if I were dealing with it a second time? I think I'd be fairly bitter as well as scared, angry and disappointed.
There's a lot of pressure on us to go through this gracefully, to be strong, to keep a sense of humor, blah, blah, blah. It's great if that's the way one REALLY feels but I see no reason we should lie either to ourselves or others about how hard and discouraging and frightening and depressing this diagnosis is.
I'm glad you are one of us. Stop in often - especially when you need a virtual hug or some TLC or understanding. We are all in this together. (((Revelle))) -
i just want to add my own check the box moment:
My house is small, upstairs is just our bedrooms, a bathroom and a tiny office. Time was, when we were all getting dressed in the morning or at night, I didn't give a thought to whether my then 3 year old would wander in. Those of you who were on the list may recall the intense questioning he put me through when I did my best to explain why mommy was going in the hospital back in October and wouldn't be coming home for the night and would need some special care afterwards. He asked where my boobie was, how the doctor fixed me, how he made a new one, to the extent that I overheard him explain to our nanny that mommy had a boo-boo in her boobie and the doctor took it off and made a new one with a balloon that he filled with a tiny tube.
Well my moment comes every day now when i lock the door to change out of my clothes, or to take a shower because I don't want him to see the TE and be afraid of it, afraid of what happened to me, afraid of mommy. Every time I push that lock in, it breaks my heart a little bit, but its what I have to do. Sometimes he rattles the handle and asks if he can come in. But he gets upset when I have a cut on my hand, I know its too much for him to see it.
That's the one thing that breast cancer took away from me for good that still hurts the same every time.
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Thanks to everyone for being here. I have been impressed how all of my doctors have called to see how I am doing after the news of BRCA2. And so surprised b/c I didn't fit the mold. How many other women were not tested with no family history and could have avoided many heartaches. Well, I have faced the reality of a mastecomy on the left side, but first the ovaries, tube, and hysterectomy. I would rather do the exchange surgery first and get rid of this very uncomfortable TE, but I don't know what is lurking in the ovaries and know the breast is fine for now. So let's get rid of the unknown and let my skin heal from the radiation that much longer. Tomorrow is my last radiation finally!!! I drove in Boston's foot of snow to get there today so it would not be delayed another day!!!
Four-Doesn't it seem to hurt more when you think its hurting someone else? I have to say, I think kids are much more accepting than adults. With my hair loss and switching from the wig to my own growing hair, the students were frank about what had happened-they did not know I had a wig- and when I explained I had previously had chemo for breast cancer and was alright now and my hair was coming back, they were fine and supportive. Maybe once you have your foob, you'll feel more comfortable leaving the door unlocked.
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You say whatever you want, Rev. We don't care if it's negative or positive. We don't come here to judge. Instead we give unconditional support and know we will receive the same from people who really do understand the ups and downs of this miserable experience.
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Hi Ladies, thank you for your kind words and support, you can't put words to what that means. Because I feel connected to all of you I am going to share some personal thoughts with you. I went to work as you know last Monday. I went through my closet looking for what I could wear. I put away all my bras before surgery so now it was time to look at my clothes . I was so anxious about going to work flat, I tried tops on, I still looked flat. I couldn't put any pressure on my chest, so no help there. The day I went to work, got out of my car, in pain, nervous about how things would go and dealing with seeing my shoes, what can I say. I went in and took it moment by moment with thankfully kind people. I went to the grocery store pulling my sweater in front of me, at one point I saw someone looking at my front, I thought they noticed, no the problem was my shirt buttons were under my arm pit, oh another problem how to I keep them in the middle now? I guess that why I was so irriatated in my last post. The pain is getting better, the people at work are relaxing. What I say to myself is this, I am more than my body, who I am holds no form. I will be remembered by people for what they thought of me not what I looked like. That doesn't make this any easier but does give me hope that I can reach a higher ground with my daughter, grandsons, people I work with and myself. My chest looks like Picaso would love to paint my chest, but I love my daughter, grandsons, enjoy the people I work with and find great solice in being part of this group so thats enough for now, maybe greater things will come. We don't know whats ahead and that's the deal, it could be great, here's to great ladies.
Revelle
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Thank you everyone for the well wishes. My exchange surgery went really well. PS put in Allergan 410s,740ccs. From what little I can see they look to be about the same size as the TEs I had. I'm good with that. I'm tall and NOT thin so these look so far to be a C cup on me.
PS did fat grafting around upper pole, and released scar tissue adhesions at the sides where the drains were, which unfortunately meant extending excisions.
I was nauseous but did NOT throw up this time!!! A first! Anesthesiologist went as light as she could with narcotics while still keeping me under (um, yeah, waking up = bad).
Minimal recovery time, burning but not BMX type pain, and time from leaving home to returning only 6 hours.
All in all, I'm happy happy happy.
PS I'm cross posting on a couple threads
PSS I love you guys (norco talking?...maybe but I don't think so 😉)
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congratulations Horsemom! That's awesome, I'm so happy everything went smoothly for you. Hard to imagine what you've been through the last few month, isn't it? I hope you can celebrate! I hope my trip down reconstruction road goes as well as yours did.
Take care!
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at the hospital waiting to be called to OR. Hope this foob looks good
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i'm still doing okay after my exchange. But I have to say, the donor site (abdomen)where they took fat for the grafting In the upper pole of implant is really painful. I think it hurts more than the extended incisions under my armpits.
I hope this lets up soon, PS says not to use my arms but I can't use my core either. Ouch.
And in my left foob I have a little bit of fluid and gas and it sounds like a frog when I move my arm! I've been assured that this will be absorbed but in the meantime my 13 yr old twins can't stop laughing.
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Sandra is right: no way to predict. Woke up from the TE exchange in easily 5 times more pain that mastectomy. I loaded up with the full amount of pain meds I was permitted to take and I am still in agony. Lot of pocket work under the implant because my PS puts the TE below the IMF so he can adjust the IMF height on the reconstruction. Well, I can't sit up at all right now. With so much pain meds I'm loopy.
Not my previous experience. So much for the "exchange is a lot easier" theory. I was off opioids within four or five days in October. We'll see.
On a positive note, when I peek in the top of the bra, the shelf look is gone. Things look a lot more "normal".
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Horsemom, unfortunately that donor site pain is going to be with you for another month. It won't be quite as intense next week but will still hurt a lot. The first week I (who never curses) was shouting "chit, chit, chit" every time I had to stand up. The second week it was still pretty painful but I traded my loud cursing for a quick intake of breath when I stood. It got better in week three. I'm 7 weeks out and still have one spot that is sore on my belly. Some people apparently have little pain with fat grafting. Good for them. I thought it was more difficult than the mastectomy.
Fourminor, damn, I'm sorry you are having such a bad time of it. It's especially difficult when everybody tells you it's going to be so easy. My first thought was that something had gone wrong because it wasn't what I expected. I was scared! The only good thing is that tomorrow will be better than today and the day after that will be even better. It WILL be ok before long.
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Hello Ladies, well went to OD, I am going to have chemo, oh joy. I don't know what to say, here I am again. I have a cat scan in two weeks, I am absolutely tired of this. I still have that area that just started to heal. Can we say TIME OUT. Ok I am sorry but really. I know you all have challenges just like I do, and I feel bad because at this point maybe more than mine but if nothing else this is personal. Just saying how I feel, and I know you all know were I am coming from. Just am having a OMFG moment and decieded to share with all of you because I know you get it.
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Hi Sandra, yes, worse, and now i have constipation from all the opiods. Took colace and fibre for two days, last night added a senekot, something better move here, this is not my typical problem. Did not have this before either.
When my husband changed my dressing yesterday he looked at the new IMF and was like, "OK I see why you are in so much pain."
All I can say is I'm ready to be done now.
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Oh my goodness!! I'm so sorry for the horrible time some of you are having right now. Isn't this all supposed to get easier?!Four, you're scaring me to death! I am trying to decide if I want to join the March surgery sisters, since my TE placement is tentatively scheduled for March 19th. I was SO hoping that this surgery was going to be...what...easier than the BMX? It certainly doesn't sound like it will be. I hope you're feeling better soon and then 4 months or so from now when I'm scheduling my exchange, I'm going to try forget how miserable you are right now! Keep on top of the pain and yes, certainly keep taking those colace tablets. That constipation thing just stinks!
I was counting it all out and from original dx to exhange, I'll be looking at almost a year. For some reason, that just depresses me. A YEAR!! Not counting a decade of tamoxifen!
Rev, I'm so sorry that you have to go down the chemo road. Did you have chemo last time? I can't remember. Did you have the oncotype test done? Not that it is the end all do all but just can't remember if you did or not. Hang in there!
Here's hoping and praying that in the not too distant future, we can all come back together and post about how fabulous we're all doing!!
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Aw don't be scared Hummingbird. I managed to cut back on painkillers today to one every six hours from one (or two) ever four. I have post op check on Thursday, been laying real low hoping the drain output will drop enough to get it pulled by then. And the preliminary look i had of my new boob is very encouraging. As they say, beauty suffers. I'll be glad to put this all behind me.
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Hummingbird,
I, too, haven't finished my BC surgery journey. This Thursday (February 12), I will go in for my delayed DIEP.
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Rev-up - I am so very sorry to hear your news!!! I have to say that chemo has been very difficult for me - not the nausea or the hair loss, but just the fact that I cannot control how I am feeling and cannot be my usual energetic self. If there is one thing I am learning...is to let go and allow family to help and not feel guilty. It has become my daily mantra and I am slowly getting more comfortable just being a 'log' if I need to be. Please be kind to yourself and take things one day at a time.
Do you know what treatment regimen you will be getting? I am on cytoxan, taxotere and herceptin.
At any rate, please know that we are here for you - cheering you on! You can do this...you are strong and a fighter. Hang in there and please feel free to vent any day at any time!
R.
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Mefrommcc: Good luck on your surgery! I Hope it all goes well for you and that you bounce back quickly, that process sure sounds involved. I fogged over a bit when PS went into all of the options for reconstruction but I'm doing TEs, for better or worse I guess, at her recommendation. Let us know how you do.
And Four...really? You have drains with the exchange too? I know I'll have them with TE placement but was really hoping for a pass on those for exchange surgery..grrrrrrrr...that sucks!
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Depends on the PS, but many/most women have drains. I got a call today and she confirmed that he took a lot of scar tissue out and put a lot of sutures in to create the inferior mammary fold and she was not at all surprised by my discomfort under the implant and the fact that the drain has been putting out a fair amount of fluid.
The bit of a look I've gotten from the top though made me happy because I don't see skin over ribs anymore over my upper chest. The upper part of the implant is covering that now and it looks pretty good. Hopefully i will have no problem wearing summer clothing and bathing suits and in time won't think about it much. It feels pretty firm and although I know that will get a little better, I went with the form stable silicone because I was willing to trade softness for shape and lack of rippling so I am not going to obsess over that either. It was never going to be the same as the breast I lost.
I too have started to let things go around the house, tolerating some clutter, and making my focus me right now. I need to heal well and that's my priority.
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Akitagirl we are sisters in this, I am doing exactly what you are except for Herceptin for now. I am tired. So there it is, this isn't the first time at this rodeow . We put our feet on the path and we have no idea if it will be short or long. I did chemo last time in 1995, I did really well with it but I am older now so we shall see. I have done my homework and will do the best I can to get ready for this war but no matter how we prepare you just don't know. I find peace and support here and for now that is a great help.
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I had a bilateral US on Monday to assess my status after another 3 months on Femara - probably the last one before surgery this spring and want to post the results for any of you who are interested.
The report shows no previously unknown areas of concern - whew! (I was actually concerned something might have cropped up.)
The node and the tumor have both shrunk an additional 50% since November, at which point both were 50% smaller than at dx. Thus, the tumor is down to 4mm and the node is 3mm (described as "very small"). Both my MO and my surgeon's PA are very pleased with the results. I'm still crossing my fingers for PCR (at least in the node) which, of course, we won't know until after surgery.
Still, I think these results are pretty impressive and I'm sharing them in hope of demonstrating the potential power of neoadjuvant A/I therapy. Keep this in mind when you meet other ER+ women and feel free to suggest that they PM me. This approach isn't for everyone, and it's not all peaches and cream but it has much to recommend it, both in the short and long term.
I am very eager for next week's appt. with my BS!
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Hopeful...that's awesome news!! Thank goodness for your forward thinking team, as those are miraculous results and could help so many BC patients down the road. It's also very encouraging for those of us on hormonal therapy. I'm really happy for you.
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Thank you, Hummingbirdlover!
I think it's truly fascinating to watch Femara's action on my system this way and I'm really, truly intrigued by the implications for others. It's SO much more humane than chemotherapy and probably at least as efficacious, for the right population, if not more so.
And as you remarked, it's incredibly encouraging to see how powerful endocrine therapy can be. I feel very, very fortunate to be able to see its efficacy directly, first hand. If anything has given me hope through this process, it is the knowledge that Femara IS working. At this point, it could turn me into a 3-eyed, green alien and I'd still be happy with it!
Thank you for your support.
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Awesome news Hopeful. That makes me feel better about putting myself through ovarian suppression right now so I can take AI instead of Tamoxifen. The hot flashes this past week have been brutal--thoughe i had a post op fever. Due for next injection and recheck of estrogen level on Tuesday. Hoping to hold off on AI for one more month that maybe that I might be cleared to exercise again to help with side effects. PS is very strict after exchange surgery. How have your side effects been?
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Hopeful, we're all thrilled by your news!
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Sandra, your Team Alien made me laugh. Trust Sandra to come up with 3-eyed green aliens! Thank you. I hope things are a bit easier now that your daughter is with you. How is Mike? How are YOU?
Four - I've had no real side effects to speak of. My breasts seem to be pretty tender, which hasn't been an issue in a LONG time, but I'm not certain that's related to the drug and my hair might be drier but that could also be seasonal. All in all this is pretty easy. I do exercise a lot, which probably helps. I've had some spinal and joint degeneration for a long time so am used to certain joints aching but there's been no uptick since October when I started on it.
I know many women do have very real issues but I hate to see women talking about AIs as though they're just about as bad as chemo because it scares off women who would benefit from their use and who might have a very easy time on the AIs. I certainly hope they'll work out well for you, Four Minor, especially after all you're going through in order to be able to use them.
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Hopeful, Mike started chemo this week and in spite of the fact that up to 90% of people on his particular kind of chemo have nausea & vomiting, he has had none. They are also giving him steroids and that has improved his appetite so much that he's actually gained a pound in four days. The bone marrow transplant is still two months off, we think. I'm exhausted but having Allison here to trade off duties with has helped. We have a long hard road ahead.
Glad you are doing so well on AI's. Just like everything else, the people with no problems rarely post about it. Only those with problems do, it seems. People who don't know any better are led to believe the worst happens to everybody.
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Sandra, you certainly nailed it in that last paragraph!
Thank you for the update on your family. I'm glad to hear Mike's managing to eat and to gain a bit of weight; that's got to be at least somewhat encouraging. Did he find a donor?? You take care of yourself, Sandra, and let Allison do so, too! You're all in my thoughts and prayers.
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Hopeful8201…I really felt good after reading how well you are doing. I start my doctors rounds next week. Chemo coach on Tuesday, Cat scan on Friday, and need to make an appointment for the port. They want to start Chemo a week from Monday but I have to check out the side effects more, I may need to make it closer to weekend so I can deal with them if they happen. Going to try and work while I am doing chemo. The good news is we seem to be going in the right direction with a plan, that's a positive thing. You will all be in my thoughts, sending out positive energy. My OD had some interesting things to say will share that later when I get it put all togeathe. -
You do have a busy week ahead, Revelle. I will be thinking of you every day. I hope you can make it work out to go in working - fingers crossed. and I'll be very interested in what your Onc has to say.
I have a follow up meeting with my BS first thing Tuesday; I'm rather nervous about whT she'll have to say about the rate of shrinkage. We'll also start talking about a date for surgery and all the nuts and bolts. I'm a bit nervous about starting to make all these permanent changes to my body - not that it can be avoided but it doesn't mean I have to like it.
Happy Valentine's Day to all of us, despite everything.
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