Bone and joint pain
It has been a year since I finished chemo and radiation. I still have pain in my legs and joints and bones. Now that the cold weather has set it it seems worse. I also have pain in my hip that comes and goes. Is that normal? I had bone pain from chemo and the Lunasta shot. I just wanted to see if others experience this and if so how do you deal with it?
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Hi Hope40, here is a similar thread -Topic: Constant leg and back pain after chemo-https://community.breastcancer.org/forum/136/topic/825409?page=1#idx_25
I wish I had more answers, but at least your not alone! It has made me feel better knowing that this is not totally unheard of, but I'm hoping that this pain will diminish with time. To be honest, for me it has gotten worse with time and I am still searching for answers.
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Hi Hope40. I've had and still have joint pain and stiffness. My lower back is the most painful to me. I was diagnosed with arthritis at 43. Not sure if the chemo or tamoxifen had/has a hand in that diagnosis or not. I too am hoping to it gets more manageable in time. For now, I take lots of ibuprofen and use my mom and dad's hot tub for relief when I can. I hope you feel better soon!
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I started cytoxan and taxotere last Friday followed by 5 days of neupogen injections. By Saturday I was in a bad state. Weak and tired I expected but the bone pain was unbearable. I couldn't sleep and nothing seemed to help..the Tylenol suggested did nothing, neither did Vicodin, massage or heat. Online searching for what others have done to get relief saved me. I found several blogs posts etc mentioning claritin and how much it helped so I tried it ..its an allergy medicine and worked wonders for me. I felt the most like ME I had felt in days. It took away most of the bone pain as well as a lot of that flu like feeling chemo gave me. Super grateful for others shared this info online and hope others will find this helpful as well.
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My lower back hips legs all muscles agony since chemo and using injections to stimulate the marrow to produce more white cells. Radiotherapy begins Feb 4 2015- what pain killers actually work. My toes feel numb also a side effect from chemo. Can't have herceptin as cardiologist thinks it will kill me due to a heart condition tho Pumping rate was a normal according to ECHO. As side effect from herceptin is it can affect heart muscle. Has anyone else been denied herceptin due to a heart condition. What are the chances of it returning without herseptin. Does anyone know where to find state?x
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I have pain especially at night in my leg joints and hands.
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Chemo can cause neuropathy. Your doctor will know what to prescribe. Pharmacists can suggest medications that can help. Try keeping a log of level and type of pain, location, what helps, what movements hurt, what it keeps you from doing.
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I finished my chemo (4 AC and 4 taxol) in sept 2014. My bone pain is still out of this world. I still take pain meds a few times a day. I think it's just the new normal for now but pray that it improves with time. I am attending cancer exercise class twice per week and have found that it has helped a tad with my mobility but not with the pain.
I also use an electric blanket each evening for a couple of hours. Again, it does not take away the pain but it is quite soothing. Give it a try.
Hope40, I have also noted that my aches are worse with the cold weather. My bones crack and creak and I feel like I am 90. My knees and hips are exceptionally bad. I know exactly how you feel.
When will his end is all I have to say. I thought once chemo and rads were done, I would be good to go. No such luck but as terrible as this may sound I am glad to hear that it is not just me and that it is not that unusual. But I do pray for all of us that this horrid discomfort will eventually subside. We have all been through enough.
Love and best wishes to all. Chris
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I had bone pain during chemo but radiation in November/December 2014 really exacerbated the joint pain. Nights and mornings are the worst - everything hurts just to move but, once I get up and move around getting my day started, it fades. However, if I sit driving for awhile or sit at home for awhile, I feel like the tin man needing oil. I'm a very active person and am a contractor (home maintenance and repair). I have neuropathy in my hands and feet -my feet feel like blocks of wood. My hands feel like I have gloves on. All of that is a chemo left-over. My Onc and I discuss this every time I go in and we evaluate what we're doing each time. I'm now on Exemestane which has a the SE of joint pain. If it gets to be too much, I'll switch to Tamoxifen. The joint pain and neuropathy was supposed to go away after chemo/radiation but there is a possibility it won't.
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Hope40, are you on tamoxifen? That caused bad joint pain for me. So much that I had to quit taking it.
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I feel badly for you all having bone and joint pain. It is very hard to manage at times. I have had bad lower back pain for many years from my SI joints. I'd love to try Claritin but I wonder if there is any interaction between the two? Some things that help me are Voltaren gel, Capsaicin cream and my heating pad. Aleve/Tylenol combo works best but my tummy cannot handle more than one or two a week. I find that anything that causes internal inflammation makes my back hurt worse. Even over-eating can affect it. Milk is the worst. I hope that your aches and pains are temporary and that you get relief soon.
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Thank you all for the feedback. I am sorry we are all going through this but it is nice to know it's common with our treatment. Somedays it's all I can focus on and I get sad. The days I stay busy I almost can forget that my body won't ever be the same. I am wondering if any if you have had any success with neuropathy pain. Mine seems worse at night when I go to bed. Some weeks worse than others. I take ibuprofin and it helps some but so far nothing else seems to do much. I am not on Tomoxifin I was only Her2 so I had Herceptin for one year. My body has been through so much I don't know what is a concern and what's just "new normal". I am taking my kids to Disneyland next week and I'm excited and I'm glad to do something fun. I am approaching two years and it still feels like yesterday I was told I had cancer. It's a hard time and I'm so thankful I have all of you to talk to and share with, it means a lot
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New to the forum.... Thankful I finally have a place where others have walked the same walk. I was diagnosed with triple neg stage 2b with nodes involved in Jan 2014. Had lumpectomy, 8 rounds (4 ac 3taxol and 1taxotere) and 33 sessions of radiation. I finished all treatment Aug 22,2015. In November 2015 I had a clear breast mri and mammo. I take Cymbalta for neuropathy in my feet. For the last two weeks I have had severe back and hip pain. I cannot sleep even with percocet. I am having a bone scan tomorrow. Scarred for two reasons. They find something. Or they don't, and then what do I do?????
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I too have neuropathy. I have etreme foot and leg pain and numbness. I have tried four different meds to help. The final one is Cymbalta. This has definately helped. Now just trying to find the right dose. Good luck and kerp us posted
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I have had pain since my neulista shot last week. All down legs and ankles . The Claritin worked the first two days, but nothing yesterday. I am going for another clariton tonight, and dr said. To addbenedryl if that doesn't work. I will keep you posted, but they tell me pain should subside eventually. Hope that is true.
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You sound like me. TN 2b lymph node involvement. My thigh and hip bone has been hurting a lot. Tailbone too. Ended treatment in early Dec. Hope everything goes ok. I'll try to check in with you in a few days.
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I have horrible hip,leg and lower back pain onc says chemo doesn't effect just one area, then I saw hip surgeon who told me the same thing. I have yet to have a single test done so now I am goiung to demand it . Im still on taxol & herceptin so I thought that was the cause but with both saying no Im worried. Hope that helps and so sorry you all are in pain. Bone pain is the worst.
Diane
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my bone pain has stopped for now, I am going in thurs for second round of chemotherapy and then the neulista shot. Hope I can delay the shot and hope pain doesn't come back as intense
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I'm glad your pain is gone Jerseygirl. What a relief! Right? I treasure the pain-free moments and do dread the return of it. It sounds like we're in the same boat.
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I am nearly 11 years out from my diagnosis. At age 34, I was diagnosed with breast cancer in my right breast. Even though scans showed nothing in the left breast, I opted to have a double mastectomy anyway. Pathology report confirmed it was indeed present in the left breast and I had one positive node. Chemo consisted of 4 A/C and 4 Taxol, with Neulasta injections given the day after each chemo treatment. After chemo, I was supposed to be on Tamoxifen for 5 years, but only lasted 3 due to side effects. I am thankfully still cancer free, but definitely still feel the joint pain/aches that most of you seem to be experiencing. My doctors also told me it's unusual and to take the occasional ibuprofen. However, sometimes it is so bad I feel like I'm 80 and worry I might fall down stairs or something. At the grocery store/Target/etc. I always get a cart whether I need it or not just for the relief it gives me while walking. Cold days are hardest. I workout, but have many times been derailed due to terrible pain in my lower back, knees, feet, or right arm. Sometimes, usually after increased activity, my arm and hands ache and I lose sensation in my hands. There have been times I can't even write or grasp and hold a glass of water. This can last anywhere from a few hours to a few days. After a few years, I noticed a different, unusual pain that started under my right implant and through to my back. I felt this most often after workouts that involved pushups and upper body work. My doctor thinks the scar tissue from my surgery has continued to grow and is causing that pain. I am wondering if others, 10+ years out, are experiencing similar symptoms and if they've found anything to be helpful. I am very thankful to be cancer free, but didn't expect all of these aches and pains to be permanent and would really like to find a way to manage them better.
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LD3 welcome to BCO, and thank you very much for sharing your experiences, being young, and diagnosed, being 10+ years out (yeah!), and unfortunately about your ongoing aches and weakness. Hoping others have some insights.
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bone pain is minimal for about 3 day with the clariton, then it fades, I am going to tke some papaya and probiotics for the next round of chemo and herceptin, I hope this helps as others have said, I was told to go with the refrigerated pro-biotic.
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I am 5 years out of treatment and have severe chronic pain. The first couple of years it was mainly in my hips. When I am having a rough day the pain migrates from my hips to my knees and then down my shins so my entire lower body hurts bad. I am still on Tamoxifen and likely will be for another 4 years as my oncologist wants me on it for 10 years. At this point I don't think going off Tamoxifen is going to give me any relief whatsoever.
I now work as a mail carrier so come rain or shine I am delivering mail and that includes lots of snowy days (although not much snow in Utah this year). I take 2 percocet each morning when I start work and 2 at night but mind you I am taking (2) 10/325 which is a hefty dose. I tend to hurt less when I am active. The 2 days a week I don't work I hurt so much more because I am not moving as much.
Using a heating pad at night when my knees and shins are killing me tends to help - at least it soothes the pain somewhat so I can sleep.
Working is the only thing that keeps me going. I still have tendencies to go into a deep depression due to the pain where all I want to do is stay in bed for days on end. My job doesn't allow me to do this and I think it is probably saved my sanity because I am forced to get out of bed in the mornings. You don't get the luxury of calling in "sick" when you deliver mail for a living.
I wish there was an answer to this chronic pain but it is a condition that I am learning to live with albeit very difficult at times.
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Janice, sorry you still have pain, can't imagine, clariton not working, Percocet gives me night terrors, trying benedryl to get me to sleep, so pain won't be there, but hope it clears soon, chronic, I wouldn't know what to do? Hang in their gang...
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I am new to posting so please bear with me. I was diagnosed in 2009 and have been on one medication after another ever since. I began chemo October 2014 and had to stop 2 months later due to infected port. Since the cancer is slow growing the oncologist decided to try meds again and stop chemo. I have had chronic pain in my back and legs for years prior to all this. Now however it has spread to all major joints, my hip being the worst. Pain doctors say it's arthritis but I believe it is so much worse because of the meds and the chemo. I too had to have the Lunista after the chemo infusions. That is when my hip and shoulders joined my back in pain.
I currently am taking high doses of pain meds and may have a pump put in to control the pain. During the chemo I went from being able to walk to now using a walker and even a wheelchair when I go out with the family. I'm going to begin PT again and see what happens. I'm glad to know I'm not alone. Is there anything that can be done? It sounds like many of us are going through this.
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They gave me radiation for my painful pelvic/hip area. That got rid of the cane for me. Recently they started me on a steroid called dexamethasone. Suppposed to be good for the bones. I cut it in half though because the first day I took it I slept not a wink. So I didn't take it the next day, which was yesterday; and yesterday evening, I was still full of energy. I can say for a fact though that I did not have any breakthrough pain the day I took the whole pill. Today has been a painful day from the beginning, despite taking half a dose. I think it is worth discussing with your onc. If you can put off taking medications that make you slow and groggy, I'm in.
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Lori, ask if you can do water treatments in a pool for arthritis pain, I hear it is a life savor, as for joint pain, I feel the clariton works for now, for me. I also use something called Australian dream. Which is guaranteed for pain, it's got blue emu oil in it, it helps, but all else ask for a pain specialist if all else fails, I do have cottage cheese , almonds, and coconut oil to help also,something in the cottage cheese, it's not perfect, but I think it helps a bit...age of course is a factor, try to keep moving a bit, if all else fail. And hydrate more.
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Dexamethasone is a steroid. Steroids contribute to osteoporosis and are not good for bones, though a short burst or low dose will be okay.
Steroids help with inflammation and are used for arthritis and autoimmune disorders like lupus.
If it keeps you awake, maybe try a different steroid. I cannot tolerate prednisone (palpitations) but methylprednisone (Medrol) works fine for me. A dose of 5mg is not a powerful one but is strong enough to help if taken for a few days.
Your body normally makes 7mg steroid in the morning, naturally. Any pill over that will suppress your immune system if taken for more than a week, we have been told.
Steroids cause higher blood sugars, water retention and can both cause insomnia and make you tired. But they can be really helpful when really needed

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Thank you for the suggestions. I've tried predizone. It didn't do much. I will be seeing PT in a couple weeks, I'll ask about water therapy. Where do you get emu oil? Actually it sounds like all my joints could use oil. I make a lot of crunching noises when I move. I can not walk without the walker, however I do try to keep moving. Friends keep telling me to hang in there. What else can I do but keep trying.
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CVS carries Australian dream, I would imagine if you have access to a computer look up both, blue emu oil, and Australian dream, I got mine cvs, but I am sure some drug stores, big ones, will carry, and yes go for the water therapy, especially since this joint pain seems to be cumulative and debilitating. Have you had a dexiscan for osteopenia ? How much bone loss from these drugs? They have a prolix shot to put back some of the one loss, I hope to get mine. Soon. Nite all
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The oral meds are known to cause pain in the joint and the 'long' bones. It's oral chemo. All that stuff they hae for us, it gets us one way or another.
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