December 2014 Surgery Sisters

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  • sandra4611
    sandra4611 Member Posts: 2,913
    edited January 2015

    Strait, thanks for the input and ideas for further research. Mike would have a much better chance of living through the transplant if he weren't 67. A few years ago the doctors wouldn't perform a bone marrow transplant on anyone over 60. The survival rate of 50-60% includes all ages. When you filter out the under 60 group, the low % makes you wonder if it's worth going through so much for such a slim chance.

    As a retired Air Force pilot living in San Antonio, we are fortunate to live 7 miles from Brooke Army Medical Center which has the only military Bone Marrow Transplant Unit (BMT) in the entire world. Being at a premier institute (similar to MD Anderson, the Cleveland Clinic, or Mayo Clinic) gives us peace of mind. The transplant surgeon said they wouldn't have accepted him into the program if they didn't think he had a good chance of surviving.

    Mike told them in a meeting last week that if they all walked outside and saw an airplane, he would insist on being the one to fly it because he went to "airplant school." They went to "doctor school" so he is confident in their knowledge. The transplant team is made up of doctors and nurses well trained and experienced in bone marrow transplants, the top of their class. Makes sense.

  • goodprognosis
    goodprognosis Member Posts: 251
    edited January 2015

    Hi Sandra

    The doctors sound so positive for Mike's surgery that I'm sure that puts your minds at ease.  It is so great for you to live near a facility like that, it will make all the difference to not only Mike's survival but your peace of mind as well.  Age is not what it used to be - sounds strange to say it but I think it's true.  DH was 66 last Tuesday and other than his cardiac stents he seems to be in good health thank God.  We really need each other to stay in this world as we're all we've got, we have no children and sometimes I become very scared when I think of the future for one of us if the other one doesn't survive.  I always hope we can die together, not very likely I know but I hope and pray for it.  I don't let myself think of a life without him.

    Anyway, didn't mean to get morose, don't pay any attention to me.  Your DH sounds like he's in the best of hands.

    Let us know all the progress.


     

  • Chloesmom
    Chloesmom Member Posts: 1,053
    edited January 2015

    Our cousin had his transplant at 69. Just went on vacation with him!

    67 is the new 47!

  • Straitlover
    Straitlover Member Posts: 124
    edited January 2015

    Lmcqueen, yes my PS let me go back to work w/ my one drain and the picc line. I went back on Monday, the drain came out I think on Thursday and the picc line on Friday, so they weren't in for very long. I would not have wanted to deal with them for much longer than that, only because it's a pain.

  • Chloesmom
    Chloesmom Member Posts: 1,053
    edited January 2015

    Tnought I was done with cancer for a while. Incisions healed. Cheat almost flat. Ordered foobs. Now got oncotype score and starting chemo next week. Didn't see that coming.

  • SweetHope
    SweetHope Member Posts: 439
    edited January 2015

    Cloesmom, you must be reeling. What was your score? I'm sorry to add you to the growing list of Chemo Warriors, but it actually is not as bad as we think it will be. Devastating news, yes, but totally doable.

    I was putting on a confident face, but so scared inside that even during the first week of chemo I was questioning myself on continuing the program. (And I only had some rib and skin pain which I mostly slept through.). By the second week I was more myself and realized it was mostly fear and I will try to push away those frightening thoughts at next weeks Chemo. Worse side effects may be in the future. But I'll put up with side effects if I can keep cancer away.

    Please join us at the "Bad Cancer Patient, Observations from the Chemo Chair".

    And the "Starting Chemo January, 2015" thread shows our progression from traumatized at the thought of chemo, through side effects, then great satisfaction in realizing just how strong we are. Jump right in with questions or comments. Everyone there knows exactly what you are going through. You are not alone.

  • Chloesmom
    Chloesmom Member Posts: 1,053
    edited January 2015

    Thanks for encouragement Sweet Hope! Score was 25 and with PR neg it counts as higher according to my onco. My life expectancy for my age if I follow my family is about 35 years so that also weighs in too in terms of chance of recurrence. Will check out the Bad Patient posts. Hugs!

  • sandra4611
    sandra4611 Member Posts: 2,913
    edited January 2015

    My husband Mike was just released from the hospital after a week. Unfortunately his illness is progressing fast and he is requiring blood transfusion every 5-7 days instead of two weeks. We just got the diagnosis and thought we had at least 3 months. The hematologist wants to start him on chemo next week which previously they said would not help and would only weaken his body before the bone marrow transplant. Now they don't have a choice. The chemo will decrease the number of transfusions he will need and buy a little time so we can find a donor and get through the pre-transplant process.

  • Chloesmom
    Chloesmom Member Posts: 1,053
    edited January 2015

    Oh Sandra my thoughts are with you! Our dear neighbor is going through the exact same thing with the same illness. My heart goes out to you both!

  • knmtwins
    knmtwins Member Posts: 598
    edited January 2015

    We all need to help get the word out. Cassie, my heart goes out to you, your husband and your family and my prayers and well wishes are streaming across the miles. Besides that, all I can do is help to get the message out, so I just posted this on my FB page and the 'mombook' facebook group I belong to.

    I'm on a message board with other women going through breast cancer. One of the ladies husbands was in the ER while she was getting her surgery, can you imagine???? It get's worse... he needs a bone marrow transplant due to a rare cancer he was diagnosed with. If you are not already on the national registry to be bone marrow donor, please look into it. It is MUCH easier now, then it was 15 years ago when I signed up. BTW - I'll need to take myself off the list now, as I have had cancer and am no longer eligible. Can one of my friends please take my space? PLEASE!!! http://bethematch.org/support-the-cause/donate-bon...

    Fingers crossed! Kay

  • goodprognosis
    goodprognosis Member Posts: 251
    edited January 2015

    Chloesmom.  Will add you to my prayers list for the chemo to go better than you expect it to.  Sending you good thoughts and hugs.  I was glad I didn't have to do it in the end but sometimes your own fears of it are worse than the actual chemo, so listen to Sweethope, she knows her stuff and is going through it too.

    Sandra.  Sending you strength for you and your DH for all you are both going through.  Glad chemo will buy him some extra time until transplant.

    Hugs to all.


     

  • SA8PG
    SA8PG Member Posts: 371
    edited January 2015

    All of you sweet woman are in my thoughts and prayers. Sandra I will PM you since I'm here in SA with you to see how our family can help.

    For the group I had a few questions: I've been in the hospital since Monday with an infection they think cellulitis from my tissue expander. I've been on vacomicyn and zosyn trying to save the expander. My skin is slowly healing (began bright red and hot to the touch) and a culture was done which showed no organisms isolated. Dr wants to schedule surgery to remove expander Monday if skin isn't a lot better. Anyone have this experience and should I keep fighting to save it or let it go and be flat on that side for a few months?

    Thank you. :-)

  • Scottiemom11
    Scottiemom11 Member Posts: 1,298
    edited January 2015

    Prayers sending out to Sandra, Chloesmom and SA8PG. This journey isn't easy.

    Scottie

  • sandra4611
    sandra4611 Member Posts: 2,913
    edited January 2015

    SA8, they may be able to take the saline out and leave the TE in. That will take the pressure off the skin and allow it to heal. That's essentially what I did after an infection although I had an implant out and an empty TE put in. Three weeks later when I was off of Vancomycin finally and the infection was long gone, we started fills. Until then, the skin "pocket" looked weird...all wrinkles, bumps, but flat. It took two huge fills to have that side start to look like a boob. (First was 180 cc's, second was 240 cc's.) PS filled up to 740 cc's and then we went to exchange exactly 3 months after the implant was removed. No problems at all.

    If you have to have the TE out, you are in good company. I have many good friends on this website who've gone flat for awhile and everything turned out ok later.

  • chrissie29
    chrissie29 Member Posts: 121
    edited January 2015


    Hi ladies.  I had bilateral BMX on 12/17 (left side for cancer) with TEs.  I start radiation on 2/2.  I still can't sleep on either side due to discomfort.  Do others have this same issue?  Did it get better?

  • SA8PG
    SA8PG Member Posts: 371
    edited January 2015

    Thanks Ladies

    My pectoral muscle on that side has been burning from the beginning. My BS came by yesterday to look as well and agreed that it is a tough call and can see why the PS has been trying to give it time. PS said he wouldnt put anything back in or leave anything in if I have surgery. He wants to clear it all out and then in 3 months explore my options.

    Sandra-

    How do you take care of your new wound and skin when it's just hanging there with no support? Also do you use a false boob for your bra?

    Thank you. :-)

  • Scottiemom11
    Scottiemom11 Member Posts: 1,298
    edited January 2015

    Christie 29

    I had my BMx on 12/3 and still can't sleep on either side. Drives me crazy b/c I'm a side sleeper. I hope this is not the new norm, but I bought a total body pillow. Wraps around your head and neck, down underror the arms and even under legs if you want. It gives me some options to curl up a bit.

    Scottie

  • Chloesmom
    Chloesmom Member Posts: 1,053
    edited February 2015

    so sorry you are having issues with recon! I didn't want more pain so opted for no recon. Other than morning tightness I have to work out I'm 7 weeks post and feeling great. If worse comes to worse there are women on the site flat and fabulous.org that had deconstructIon. They either had complications or were disappointed with results. Wishing you healing

  • sandra4611
    sandra4611 Member Posts: 2,913
    edited February 2015

    It can take MONTHS to be comfortable side sleeping. Depends on how much your implant moves around. I always had to place a small pillow at my sternum to keep everybody in place. Also the top arm can be heavy and push the top foob down to the other one. I ended up putting a pillow behind my back and leaning back a little. I also put one of the small heart shaped pillows under that arm and that gave it a place to rest so it didn't fall forward. The bottom foob was uncomfortable against the bed so I found another of those small soft pillows between the foob and the mattress made all the difference.

  • SA8PG
    SA8PG Member Posts: 371
    edited February 2015

    Hi ladies,

    Well after 8 long days in the hospital I am home. Yay!!!!! I had my right tissue expander removed and the alloderm. When the Dr took me to surgery Monday he said my alloderm was liquifying it was so infected. Praise God I didn't go septic. Because infection was so bad he opted not to place anything in there to let me heal. He said we can try again in a few months.

    Thank you for your prayers and well wishes.

    Hugs

  • knmtwins
    knmtwins Member Posts: 598
    edited February 2015

    Welcome chrissie29 and kris1114 . I hope I added you guys properly to the top. One is about to do chemo and one Rads, I highly recommend that you both find the monthly topic for Rads and Chemo. I haven't done rads, but loved my July 2014 Chemo Sisters, as I love you guys.

    Chrissie - how was your path, as you did neo adjuvant? Did it shrink the tumor? Get rid of it all together?

    Side sleeping with TEs.... my surgery was on the 2nd, and I'm sleeping on my sides, but not comfortably, but each day it gets better.

    SA8PG - so glad you are home. Looks like you did neo adjuvant also. How did it do for you?

    Next fill is next week, another 60ml both sides... I wonder how you decide what is the right 'size' as it seems 1/2 the 'boob' is under your arm...

  • SA8PG
    SA8PG Member Posts: 371
    edited February 2015

    Thank you ladies. Yes I did neo adjuvant chemo from August-November. The scan before my bmx showed the tumor had shrunk from 5 cm to .8cm. When we got the path report back it showed a complete pathological response nothing was left. Now I have the left tissue expander in and nothing on the right after removal for infection.

    This journey has really opened my eyes to so much for Breast cancer. I lived through watching my mother suffer through ovarian cancer when I was a child and to now live through Breast Cancer myself while raising my family brings the word survivor even nearer and dearer to my heart. To all of the ladies out there with breast cancer may you be strengthened in the moments you need it the most. My prayers are with you.

    Hugs

  • Scottiemom11
    Scottiemom11 Member Posts: 1,298
    edited February 2015

    Started on lupron today and MO also prescribed Neurontin to help with my nerve pain and too hopefully stem the SEs from the Tamox and lupron. Keeping fingers crossed that I start sleeping through the night.

    SA8PG - prayers for a swift recovery now that you are home.

    Scottie

  • Funclassygal
    Funclassygal Member Posts: 105
    edited February 2015

    Hi Ladies, was wondering if anyone is taking monthly Lupron shots to shut down estrogen? My estrogen is low but my oncologist would like me to do this. I have read horror stories about the side effects and really would rather not do this right now since I have to do radiation next. Any advice? Thanks so much, VeraAnn

  • Scottiemom11
    Scottiemom11 Member Posts: 1,298
    edited February 2015

    Funclassygal,

    I just started on lupron two days ago. MO also added Neurontin because it works on the SEs, particularly the hot flashes. I have to work up to a dose on that one but so far my HFs are already better at night. Also getting back to the gym and restarting weight training. Between my lower back and BMx, I am starting really light and frustrated but determined to get there to avoid any weight gain.

    Scottie


  • Funclassygal
    Funclassygal Member Posts: 105
    edited February 2015

    Scottiemom1…I hear you, that's what I am worried about as well. Also, when I read about this shot - the side effects scared the heck out of me but may be I am reading too much. Thank you for your reply!

  • sandra4611
    sandra4611 Member Posts: 2,913
    edited February 2015

    Some years ago I took Lupron to decrease the size of a uterine tumor prior to a hysterectomy. It worked great and in only three months my uterus shrank from 5 mo. pregnant size to just a bit larger than normal. One shot put me in immediate menopause and the hot flashes were the hardest part. My ovaries were not removed so I went through natural menopause 10 years later and it was so easy compared to the Lupron side effects.

  • Lmcqueen
    Lmcqueen Member Posts: 21
    edited February 2015

    I had a BMX on 12-1-2014, followed by cellulitis on 1-11-15 (6 days in hospital). Just went back to work last Tuesday and still ha a lot of pain/discomfort from the TE's. Am I the only one still having pain/discomfort

  • Straitlover
    Straitlover Member Posts: 124
    edited February 2015

    Lmcqueen, hate to tell you, but I had discomfort w/ my TEs until they came out, LOL.

    That cellulitis is a you-know-what, isn't it? I was in the hospital almost a week, too - got it 2 weeks after my BMX. Then I was on IV abx at home for a month, well part of the last week I was at work.


  • Scottiemom11
    Scottiemom11 Member Posts: 1,298
    edited February 2015

    Lmcqueen: I'm still having discomfort with my TEs. I was having lots of nerve pain, but the Gabapentin MO put me on to reduce Tamox/lupron SES has nipped the nerve pain in the bud. Also helps with he HFs.

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