Winter rads 2014-2015
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I too would have just had a mastectomy if I'd known what radiation was going to do to me. My RO said it would be like a sunburn. Bullshit! Yesterday I dropped off my new FMLA papers at work. I was working part time but this week I can't even wear real clothes, never mind a bra and even though I finish up my treatment next Monday (should have been today but the machine was broken on Wed) RO says I'm going to need to stay home and "air out" the area. Hopefully I'll be able to dress and go to work on the 9th, til then I'm topless, on my back with my arm above my head-well most of the time. You can only do that for so many hours a day, then I throw on an old t-shirt of hubby's and drive to the radiation center and back.
I'm a mess. My left breast and chest are burnt beet red, crusty, oozing, blistered with skin missing in several places especially under the fold of my breast and my armpit. This is painful in the extreme-I can't sleep, the pain wakes me up if I move. And I'm not a wimp-3 kids natural child birth, the last 2 at home with a midwife. Not a problem. This? A big problem!
I did great until about treatment 20 then it all fell apart. RO gave me Radia Gel a few days ago and it seemed to work a little, but not now. Says there is a good cream he usually prescribes-too bad I'm allergic to sulfa drugs! Ugh!
I am so sick of all this. Of what doctors do to us and tell us. I had a 7 mm tumor, but surgeon took a huge chunk of my breast because it looked like I had DCIS around it. Not so, final pathology said no DCIS so WTF? Well, we got really good margins. No kidding! Then RO says "it'll be like a sunburn." So not true!
I'm sure tamoxifen or AI therapy will be just fine too. NOT! Someday I'm pretty sure people are going to say what was done to us in the name of medical treatment in the first part of the 21st century was barbaric. I understand this might be the best we've got for now, but I would have appreciated a bit more honesty about what the side effects of radiation could be. Never again.
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Oh, Labelle, you deserve to rage. Barbaric - yes like sucking leeches. At least better than what women faced 40 years ago. We have options but need more complete information early in the process to make those choices. This week's postings seem to prove my feeling that medically one thing just seems to lead to another. Hope the airing out works quickly to give you some relief
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Labelle, Ugh, that is just awful. My MO reminded me that the SE of radiation will continue to get worse for about a week after treatment stops. I'm so sorry you are having such horrible SE. My bad girl looks like a pan fried chicken breast! The techs told me I'm going to "open up" soon, so I may be joining you!
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Well dammit. i am pink already under the arm, and quite sure I am headed to the land of third degree burns. I have three weeks left.....no way will my skin last.
I may just quit before then though. After all i have been thru, that will be just too much. i had hopes of sailing thru rads. Ha! Not gonna happen. I am not sure I am able to handle open wounds that are debilitating, and am pissed that I am being subjected to it.
I too was told there would be redness, not any of the apparently common horrors. Meh!
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Hi everyone!
Yahoo for Friday, no RADs for 2 days!!!
Hope you all have a peaceful and no pain weekend.
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hi ladies, were you told not to drink any alcohol during rads? I am not a big drinker but it would be great to drink a few glasses of wine during these 7 weeks.
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Bippy, if it helps I'm done with week 4 and have the same level of pink as almost from the beginning. So it may or may not increase. Prayers for you (and me) that it won't.
Also, regarding the alcohol question ....no one said anything to me about not drinking during rads. I had a mojito with dinner. Would love to hear if others were told not to.
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I was told not to drink during chemo because your liver is already taxed. Wasn't told not to during rads. I haven't had anything to drink because my liver isn't doing well. The counts are worse now than they were during chemo.
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I was told to not drink during chemo, but nothing was said about it during rads. Cheers, until I hear something.
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Beachbum, I had #5 today too. A little pink and feels like a sunburn couple hours after. Using aloe gel immediately afterwards and it seems to soothe it. Call me crazy but today I felt a tingling during the second zap. Traveled downstate (lower MICHIGAN) ) for my sister in law's' memorial. Passenger seatbelts are not my friend. I'd ask my RO for something now. It's hard when they dismiss your symptoms. Aloe Vera does seem to help. Using Eucerin too because that's what I have. Hang in there. I'll be keeping you in my thoughts and prayers as we are on the same schedule. We will see what next week brings. Hugs.
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I bought a small, cheap pillow at Target after my lx. I put it between my hurting breast and the seatbelt. The seatbelt still fits correctly. I also have a fuzzy seat belt cover that I picked up at Auto Zone. It's been money well spent.
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My instructions only say to drink 8 8-oz. Glasses of water per day. General breast cancer recommendations seem to usually discourage alcohol. I think because it interacts with estrogen.
Bippy, I hope you can discuss your concerns with your RO, a nurse or tech. There may be another cream or gel that will help. You are around halfway done. I have peeled skin in the armpit and fold that is sore sometimes and the boost is bringing up a scarlet slash near my incisions, but the Calendula cream and Silvadene help a lot. That Dale post surgical bra though pricey as been great to sleep in to avoid gravity driven pain. I wear a tee and my cotton nightie inside out to avoid friction from seams. I hope there are things you can try to make it easier.
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I haven't started yet, but my BS (who went through chemo and radiation himself) said silvadene helped him a great deal and was going to make sure I had some on hand. I don't know much about it yet.
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My RO recommended Vanicream and Aquaphor (question spelling). I had some Vanicream that has sunscreen already and found the Aquaphor at Wal-Mart. I have been putting the lotions on now so that my skin is in good of shape as possible before I start on Monday. -
CassieCat, I used Silverdene as often as I could. It is great stuff!!!!! I would use it in morning, noon and night. I didn't have any issues as long as I kept my skin moist with either aquaphor or silverdene.
Bippy, have you tried a soft towel? About half way through I had to put a soft towel between the bra and my skin because of the bra rubbing. At night I would use something similar to an ace bandage and wrap my chest and have the towel in between the wrap and my skin and that helped cushion and protect the right side, since I slept on that side. Is there anyway you can talk to your RO and ask for a couple of short weeks. I was getting really bad during the Xmas and New Years weeks and my RO gave me days off during those weeks. That really make a big difference for my skin. Maybe you could ask your neighbors what they think? LOL!!!!!
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I started rads this week. I was just told to get aloe with no alcohol. I asked the RO about lotions people use and he dismissed it. He said he even thinks the aloe really is of no use to the skin itself but the massage while putting it on he said my help and that while it did not help the skin it did make people feel better with the cooling effect. I don't know what to believe as almost everyone here seems to be benefiting from lotions creams etc. it's frustrating to not have a standard on this.
On the alcohol, thanks for the input, RO did not tell me no drinking but the tech did and when I was surprised said in general they do not recommend this. I would really love a glass of wine, last time I drank a glass was on New Years
By the way, I rang the bell by mistake today! Was walking down the hall (did not even realize the bell was there) and as I was trying to take off the shawl on my shoulders it touched the bell and it rang until I could figure out what's going on and stop it. Then I heard clapping 👏👏👏
) it was funny. Wish it was 33 instead of 3!
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Good evening mqt64, I have 28 plus 5 boosts, how many are you doing? Today was fine, I just feel sore more to the side than the breast area. Hopefully it will stay that way. I have Aloe Gel that my RO wants us to use. I asked her if she wanted me to use Aquaphor and she said that if I needed it later she would give it to me. They have a ton of samples. After all the bills for the treatment, I will take anything free at this point. I am anxious to get past this rads treatment, and see where I am. I am hoping to avoid a new chemo until late summer or into fall. I am sick of being stuck inside, and I want to enjoy the good weather.
I hope everyone has a great weekend!!
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Good evening all! I had my sims today so I feel like an official member of the group now. First rads will be Monday.
Today is 3 weeks out since my final treatment. It was such a joy today to NOT have chemo! I celebrated with a glass of wine tonight. Thankfully it no longer tastes like turpentine. :-)
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What you all are going through is truly horrifying. I don't understand why this happens to some and not others. It would seem there should be a test to see if a person's skin can hold up to radiation and a procedure taken to assist in prevention of the worst case scenario. Something is wrong here. This is not right! Where is the research? My clinic said they haven't seen a serious "burn" case in over a year. Why is that? Is it the equipment? I know that I said it before, but my clinic uses the TomoTherapy. I had minimal skin side effects. I'm considering doing a poll about this. Would you be willing to participate? We can figure out what information is important for the "experts" to know about this problem. And...yes... I've been known to be a bit of a rabble-rouser. Let me know.We are going out on the town tomorrow night. Craig Wayne Boyd, this year's winner of the TV show,The Voice, is performing in Las Vegas and we are going to see him. His show's have sold out here, so that bodes well for his success. Hubby wants to go enough that he is willing to miss a UK basketball game. (It will be recorded of course.) I am going wigless! My new hair is 1/4 to 1/2 inch long, rather sparse, and so white that it is almost invisible. I'm going to go western and wear my long skirt and cowgirl boots. I'll wear something from my Western jewelry line too. Craig Boyd is a western singer for those who've never heard of him.
Have as good a week-end as possible. I'm sorry that there is so much hurt.
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CoyoteNV, it might be the machines or the treatment plans. My RO said that I shouldn't see any serious SEs until week 5. She will look at my skin weekly to monitor it. The machine they are using on me has shields, so that the thinner parts of the breast do not get as much radiation as the thicker parts. During my treatment, I get zapped once full force from the left. Then they adjust the shields and I get another zap, then hey adjust the shields again, and another zap. Then the machine moves to my right, and I get 3 zaps there too, with the shields adjusting each time. I have a skin fold on my right side that they are concerned about, they actually tape a small roll of bubble wrap there. I guess the bubble wrap lets the beam through, but lifts the skin enough to get rid of the fold
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Thanks all for your thoughts and tips.
i pondered more and here is my take:
drinking: stopped during chemo entirely, began again after, love a glass of wine a night. RO did not say anything about it. Stepping up water intake.
Burns and skin issues: RO only recommended aloe vera gel. I will see him next week and express my concerns. And looking into silvadene. Ha! They have buckets of solarcaine BURN relief gel in the changing area! I suppose that should have been a clue.....One of those is coming home with me, for spite.
Frustration: any tiny thing at this point is going to send me into orbit. I am just tired of having a positive attitude, tired of being a trooper, tired of the toll this has and will continue to take. I think rads is like chemo---they do not tell you the truth about how awful it CAN be, they hope for the best and deal with it when and if horror ensues. Then they nod their heads knowingly and try to fix it.
Fatigue: each day about an hour after rads, it overcomes me and I must lie down. Sleeping about 9 hours each night!
Neighbors: still aholes but not burning anything.
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My RO asked me questions about how my skin fairs in the sun in our first appointment, Did I burn easily? Tan? She said that there was a range of effects. There was a packet that I took home that listed the more serious potential side effects. I felt prepared, but have had a very easy time of it after reading the range of experiences here. I am lucky. Finished #15 of 21 yesterday and have a tan all over the area being treated, and fullness in my breast. No chance of going braless and my fluffy winter coat seems to provide enough cushion for the seatbelt. I've been doing the stretches my surgeon recommended since my lumpectomy and try to do at least one yoga class a week. Last week I was just too tired and too cold. My RO recommended calendula lotion and the first one I bought had lanolin and almond oil in it. I'm glad that I tested it first as I had a skin reaction to those ingredients. She made a note that she should tell people to look for a pure form. I am grateful that everyone is so receptive to my concerns, fears. I can't imagine when this ends and I don't have the daily visits for reassurance.
I was told to limit my drinking for eternity. No drinking during treatment especially. I have all sorts of people offering advice about drinking and nutrition, so I met with the nutritionist to clarify and can now tell everyone to back off. The recommendation was to save drinking for special occasions. I would love to have a glass of Malbac in front of the fire during all this snow. More snow in the forecast for Monday, mother nature seems determined to extend my treatment plan.
The hardest part has been managing my own expectations of what I am able to do. Yesterday brushing the snow off my car and driving to school was exhausting. It always kinda hits me out of the blue. Not sure why I am surprised every time I feel like taking a nap. I don't like being needy, much prefer the caretaker role.
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I've been doing a lot of reading on the well established relationship between alcohol and breast cancer. Prior to all of this, I would usually have a glass of wine per day, more like two or three on weekends. The research is pretty scary, especially for hormone positive tumors. Alcohol increases the estrogen in your body and feeds the cancer, increasing the likelihood of an occurrence or reoccurance.
There are several good articles on the subject on this site and, over the years, the studies have been pretty consistent. To quote from one: "Compared to women who don't drink at all, women who have three alcoholic drinks per week have a 15% higher risk of breast cancer. Experts estimate that the risk of breast cancer goes up another 10% for each additional drink women regularly have each day." Most generally recommend limiting your alcohol intake to two or fewer glasses per week.
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I finished my 15 whole boob rads this week along with two boosts. Two boosts left to go. My nipple is extremely tender. Anybody have any great tips for what lotion works best in that area? I have tried vit e oil, aquaphor, canadulla, aloe without alcohol and lotions with cocoa butter.
My mo said a glass of red wine was fine. She said studies have found that the stuff in red wine is good for your heart. She did say no more than seven glasses a week and no I couldn't have seven in one day.
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Good morning everyone, I had a problem with seatbelt straps over the summer when I had my port put in. It always would rub until it got cold and I broke out the winter coat. I have a little stuffed puppy that I keep in my car and he fits right under the strap when I drive. I tried the pillow thing but just couldn't get it right. They were all the wrong shape, too big, too stiff etc. And I gave up until I bought the puppy when I was out shopping one day. It works great! and besides, who can resist a cute little soft puppy?? Anything that works and makes me smile!
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windgirl. No harm in practicing ringing the bell!
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Silvadene is sulphur based. I am allergic to the antibiotic Bactrim which is also sulphur based. But the RO questioned me about my reaction which was "gastric" (A nice way to say I threw up). Since I didn't have a skin reaction, I tested a little on my arm which was fine. So they tell me I have an intolerance not an allergy. That means I have been able to use it.
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Beachbum102 love your puppy. We really have to think outside the box.
I cut up some cotton panties to pad my bra in the fold under my breast.
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Aj and LaRock- My Onc told me the same about alcohol. When I asked him about drinking, he said one glass of wine every once in awhile. In his words, "Most evidence points to alcohol increasing the risk of breast cancer, so why would you?" Believe me, this is NOT what I wanted to hear, but I'll stick to it. I've always been a social drinker plus usually wine at home while cooking, and now I've have breast cancer twice, so in the least, I'm thinking the alcohol didn't do me any favors. I've told my family I'll do everything I can to never have cancer again, so I can't go against doctor's orders. NOT HAPPY!
I've finished 6mos of chemo and am now 3 weeks out from a Level 3 ANLD (already had BMX 7yrs ago). I'll have my rad simulation this week then 33 rounds of radiation.
I have kind of a random rads question... I've been keeping an eye on this thread and am wondering why everyone has problems with their bra during rads. I'm assuming many of you've had a BMX, so why not go without a bra? I haven't worn one all that much since my BMX and reconstruction unless my top is sheer, and even then I almost always wear a tank top instead of a bra (tank without shelf bra). I was thinking to prevent rubbing irritated skin from rads I'd wear a soft ribbed tank under everything
Also, who's used Medihoney products? I've heard great things. Which product(s) did you use and how? My plan is Medihoney and Silvadene (regardless of what my RO says... if I've learned anything through all of this, it's that you ladies know MUCH better how to handle side effects!).
Thanks!
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