Can we have a forum for "older" people with bc?

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  • SweetHope
    SweetHope Member Posts: 439
    edited January 2015

    Sandra, OMG!!! That was my brother's first piece of furniture in his first apartment! Oh thoses days of Dave Brubeck, The Kingston Trio, Buddy Holly and the Crickets, and that young kid, what's his name?....Elvis?

  • Anneb1149
    Anneb1149 Member Posts: 960
    edited January 2015

    Yes Sandra- that looks very familiar.

    Jackie- what a long day- I would be totally useless for the next few days. I have always needed 9-10 hrs of sleep a night. When the kids were little and got sick enough that they couldn't sleep, I stayed up with them the first night until we could get to the Dr and get meds for them. After that, if they still couldn't sleep - Daddy took over. He could handle a 12-14 hr workday, be up all night with the sickie, then head out again to work the next day. He could do that for several days if needed. One night without sleep and I was a weepy basket case for days. Still need those 10 hrs at night.

    I was supposed to head over to my DS's tomorrow to spend some time with sweet Lucia, but weather report for tmrw is awful- rain and wind all day. So I am going today instead. What a problem- an extra day with GD! Poor me! Such a sacrifice. Sit here another day, all alone, nothing to do or have a tea party with Lucia??

    Only real problem is I haven't begun to pack. I want to leave no later than one because it is a 3 hour drive at the very least and I want to get there before dark.

    Anne

  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited January 2015

    Positive thinking is not the destination; it is the journey.  An optimistic person will be constantly challenged – by external circumstances as well as inner fears and doubts.  Always remember that these tests are like a ladder you must climb.  As you move past each rung, your optimism strengthens and your confidence begins to flex newly found muscle that you might never have developed otherwise.
     
    Montague Ewards

  • carolehalston
    carolehalston Member Posts: 6,887
    edited January 2015

    Jackie, hope things settle down with your work and you get back to a routine that suits you.

    Anne, enjoy those tea parties with Lucia.

    A gray drippy day here today.  DH and I went to the gym and it wasn't my best workout.  My favorite ellipticals were occupied so I used one that I don't like as well and also put in some time on a recumbent bike.  Better something than nothing. 

    This afternoon I took my mother to her hair apptment and then got her a fried catfish dinner for her supper.  She was hungry and really enjoyed it. 

    DH cooked a split pea soup for dinner.  It smelled really good in the kitchen when I got home.  It's nice to have someone cook dinner.  I'll make a salad to go with the soup.  Maybe I'll even mix up some cornbread batter. 

    Hi to everyone.

  • gardengumby
    gardengumby Member Posts: 7,305
    edited January 2015

    Since we're on the subject of weather....  here is the northwest it's raining and cold --- well, cold for us.  It's about 48 degrees.  We're leaving on Tuesday for a cruise to Mexico (out of San Francisco), and I'm madly trying to complete a contract before we leave.  I am getting REALLY tired of sitting in front of a PC, but I'm seeing light at the end of the tunnel, so will probably get up before daybreak tomorrow to try to wind things up.  Over the weekend I really need to get packed and clean the house, so I'd rather not be tying up loose ends on this contract.  And since the Seattle Boat Show starts tomorrow, hubby really wants to hit it before we leave.  He lusts after a new boat....


     

  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited January 2015

    Sandra,

    I do remember those.  I wasn't quite that old -- well, maybe I was, but it seemed if I recall that they were in the homes of others who had a little more money.  We did not get one until the really old portable players came out.  Still we listened to Chuck Berry, The Four Tops, Fabian and most of the mid to late 50's and early 60's while I remained in high school.  Graduated in 1963. 

    Anne, I did sleep quite some time -- went to bed at 9a.m. and did not get up till almost 620a.m. this morning.  Then off once more to my employer's and put in 9 hours today.  I won't go back now until Saturday night.  In all fairness -- I did sleep Tues. night ( ran home here while my Dh stayed at the house ) and got pj's and tooth paste and brush, and clean undies, and other necessities at my employer's.  At any rate --- it is a bit wearing but I stay in one piece pretty good and I am fortunate to always sleep well for the most part -- have to admit though, I do the very best at that when I'm in my own bed. 

    So today's quote is quite late, but thank goodness  I'm glad to be home early this evening and get caught up with all my computer work.  Hope you all have a really great day.  I'll be back in the morning.  Should be a pretty good Friday. 

    Blessings,

    Jackie

  • sandra4611
    sandra4611 Member Posts: 2,913
    edited January 2015

    Isn't it interesting how some of us can go a very long time without sleep and others simply can't. That leads into the interesting topic of early birds and night owls. Is there a correlation between those two things? I'm a night owl who can go all night without sleeping and function reasonably well until an early bedtime the next evening. My husband is an early bird who absolutely MUST be in his bed by 11 p.m. and would just crumble the next day if he hadn't gotten sufficient sleep. What about you?

  • sandra4611
    sandra4611 Member Posts: 2,913
    edited January 2015

    We never had a hi-fi console like the one in the picture but the "rich" folks did. I would visit my friend whose parents had one and listen to Andy Williams sing, "I Can't Get Used To Losing You." The Kingston Trio sang a song about how Charlie couldn't get off the MTA because he needed a nickel. What was the name? I can still sing most of the words, "Will he ever return? No he'll never return and his fate is still unlearned." Was it called The Man Who Never Returned? I listened to another favorite song, "Standing On The Corner Watching All The Girls Go By" by not sure who sang it. The Four Freshmen?

    At home, everybody felt rich because we had a record player. It wasn't a hi-fi, but we didn't care. I bought 45's and put little plastic yellow things into the holes in the middle and stacked a bunch up. My parents had some 78's but they were old fashioned so I never played them. I remember getting an album, 33 rpm, by the Monkees in about 1965. I graduated from high school in 1966.

  • sandra4611
    sandra4611 Member Posts: 2,913
    edited January 2015

    Mike got his port put in this morning. I was surprised at how long it took. They went to the OR just before 11 but didn't call me to come back to recovery until 12:30. He was still groggy and sleepy but woke when I came in. It was after 2 before we got out of there.

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    Poor guy. You can see he has no more muscle in his arm. The skin is just hanging.

  • MagicalBean
    MagicalBean Member Posts: 362
    edited January 2015

    Sandra: I graduated in 66 as well, and I remember all the songs you listed. Thanks for the blast from the past.

    As for sleeping.....I go to bed about 9:30, watch TV till about 11 and fall asleep listening to Chicago on the police scanner. (I tune in to broadcastify.com on my Kindle) I'm usually awake by 7am in the winter, 5:30 in the summer. It's 8:45 pm now and I'm sleepy.

    It must have been a long day for you two. I'll bet Mike sleeps well tonight.

  • shuf
    shuf Member Posts: 94
    edited January 2015

    hi guys it has been a while. I have been reading but just not posting. Have enjoyed all the posts and the peacocks are beautiful. You all have made me laugh and smile as I continue with rads. Getting tired but my dh and family are keeping me in line. (Haha) calling for snow here in tennessee and I am looking forward to the beautiful white stuff. Plan on riding tractor to rads that should be a blast to see! My beautiful granddaughter is growing like a weed and now laughing that lights up my heart! Anybody taken femara? Wanted to see about side effects. God bless - shuf

  • Di2012
    Di2012 Member Posts: 925
    edited January 2015

    Hi Ladies!......got the flu today, even though I HAD a flu shot, and will get go to go doc to get Tamiflu tomorrow at 11.....to make my day worse was my American Express card was HACKED by someone buying something at Walter Drake....but because I have a -0- dollar alert....I caught it with only one charge, and 2 additional charges ( At AT & T) happened when I was talking to AX.....I HATE dishonest people!

    Sandra, Mike really has lost a lot of weight since we met him in Aug-Sept. ! I was wondering if his port was going to be in his chest or his arm, as I remembered Robin Roberts had a port in her arm and then people were sending her all different colors of port covers that she was wearing while she was still on the air.....but I think she got a port in her chest later. Her MDS was due to her treatment for her breast cancer years before.

    My dad got a kit and made a stereo unit like the one pictured but decided against putting a TV in it, the center part had doors that was space for the records....My 96 year old mom still has it.

    My 50 year H. S. reunion this summer at a hotel near SeaTac..... Hubby is 73....think he graduated in '59 in Thief River Falls HS

    Getting the chills again.....brrrr.....At least my Mom is not pinning a wool sock around my neck with Ben Gay and throwing an extra Army blanket on me......little did she or I know that I was allergic to wool!


    Di


    A few more days Jackie!


    Winking





  • sandra4611
    sandra4611 Member Posts: 2,913
    edited January 2015

    Di,

    Sorry you are under the weather. This darn flu is running rampant, isn't it? Lots of children here are in the hospital with it. And what's happening with credit card hacking??? One of my daughters just had it happen to her yesterday.

    Mike's 50th high school reunion is the end of July and he is so sad that he won't be able to make it. He and his old buddies had one heck of a long weekend planned.

    Robin had a PICC line like I had for all my surgeries. The transplant doc told us Mike would have to get another port on the left side of his chest for the chemo assault that will obliterate his bone marrow a few days before the transplant. They give it so fast and need a very large line so the port won't work. Not sure why he won't get a PICC instead because I know those lines are very large. I'll have to ask the question. Other than having to keep the PICC sterile and have the dressing changed in a sterile environment every week, it seems like it would be a lot easier than getting another chest port. The port today is for all the blood draws and other meds he'll be getting in the next two or three months until he becomes an inpatient.

    Shuf, where are you in Tennessee? Did I ask you before? Don't remember. (I blame it on my brain stem stroke instead of old age.) I was born in Knoxville and my dad was born in Nashville. I had relatives in both cities for years and years.

    MagicBean, woo hoo! Another '66 girl! I was 17 and thought I knew it all. Mike slept most of the afternoon. Anesthesia really throws you for a loop. He hasn't taken any pain drugs. Says he feels fine. Tough guy.

  • camillegal
    camillegal Member Posts: 16,882
    edited January 2015

    I didn't read all the posts yet, but half way.

    Sandra this is so difficult for u and Mike and I pray it can settle down a bit. This disease is vicious I know and I hope u rest whenever u can. Even tho I'm not here believe me I pray or u 2.

    Termite I can't remember al of it so Rita might pop in if I'm wrong

    Can of peach pie filling----------small can of crushed pinapple crushed and drained--------can of condensed evaporated milk-----------1/2 cup  o mini marshmallows, and an 8 ounce thing of cool whip---this is by memory so we all know what that means. But it's so darn easy and everyone loved it.

    BTW Jackie I didn't notice any of my words of wisdom with all o u'r quotes, as u know I have many. 25 HOURS that's longer than a day--Oh u must have been exhausted. please don't overdo.

    Carole I'm sorry u'r having a saddish time. Hope the sun shines quickly for u cuz that is not u'r personality.

    Anne I can't keep up with u, u travel so much, it's tiring reading all u do, But I'm glad u'r able to.

    Oh Chevy u will never catch up to all my frangances----It's not just bath and Body works for me--It's HSN and QVC--the shopping channels that I get the very very very best named products around from Sephora too.So there and keeping up with u'r posts is the easiest--u do about as much as I do. Let's face it

    Blondie u sound better I hope u feel better.   (HUGS)))

    OK on to the next page.

     


     

  • camillegal
    camillegal Member Posts: 16,882
    edited January 2015

    Hi again OK I finished wow--everyone is a talker--Good, that's how it should be.

    Oh Sandra Mike looks so wiped out, I understand why/ Damn disease.

    Oh I think it was the 4 Lads, but I don't remember the Kingston song, but I sure remember those times, I just don't remember yesterday--well I remember the song, just not the day.

    OK Jackie I see u had some good sleep--so u kind of made up for it.

    It's TGIF ladies, well for some it makes a difference. OK Chevy I know u do u'r busiest times on the weekends, that when the men are more plentiful, so it's still TGIF o u too.

  • Chevyboy
    Chevyboy Member Posts: 10,786
    edited January 2015

    CAMMERS! Can you beLIEVE all that is going on with these guys? I mean first Sandra, with Mike... then Blondie, and now even SASS has issues!

    And Di! Yes, you DO need that piece of wool, on your chest, and ben-gay or Vicks underneath it! And a T-shirt on top!! That's what holds it in place! I had that too... I think anybody over 50 knows about that "sure-cure" for the "bug"!

    Janie got Tami-flu also for her bad case. But YOU got the shot? I just heard where that shot I got doesn't cover all the strains of flu! YOU must be one of those!

    Cams, we are going to make these gals sick with our fragrances... You and I know it makes us even more lovelier and desireable, when we take showers and baths with 3 different bottles of scents... but there are THOSE that frown on our frivolity! SOME people have "issues" with tart-like gals like us.... They pretend it is our rather extensive use of fragrances that drive them crazy.... makes their nose have fits, etc.

    So we have to put a damper on our saloon-type behavior from now on... WHERE do you get yours? You buy them ONLINE? I haven't tried that yet! You buy your weed online also?

    Sandra, I'm sorry for Mike..... His beard and mustache are VERY nice! So who shaves him in the hospital? No Cammi, I ain't puttin' the moves on him, but even sick, he looks pretty good there! Just tell him to smile for these pictures.... okay?

    We had one of those TV's... In the early 50's.... Before there was "color" TV... And before we could buy one, my Brother and I would walk down to the corner, and in this store window, there was a TV!!!!!!!!! And we would lay on their parking and watch TV! It was the most magical thing EVER!

    Remember that piece of izing-glass we used to put on the glass screen? To make it look like color TV? But I still remember eating "supper" and listening to The Shadow, and Innersanctum" and The Red Skelton show!

    So okay, you guys are thinking that I am at LEAST 100....! Close.... but not quite!

  • Chevyboy
    Chevyboy Member Posts: 10,786
    edited January 2015

    Look what someone did with a vintage TV case!

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    Ours was more like this.... And we could replace the tubes in the back...

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    And do any of you remember THESE?

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    And we had "party-lines".... No Cammi, not what you are thinking... Our phone number was 0753... then GL was added, then GL5-0753... But at first, several homes were on the same "line" and sometimes the party-line was busy with another "party" and we had to wait until they were finished, before we could call someone.

    I worked for the Phone Company...Mountain Bell, before it became AT&T... I started in 1955 when I was a Senior in HS... I worked on a board, of Long Distance Operaor's... I left when I was 8 months pregnant in 1958... right before Direct Distance Dialing went in...

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    This was taken in the 50's. I was only 18 when I started, and no, I didn't wear my hair like that THEN...Ha!

  • camillegal
    camillegal Member Posts: 16,882
    edited January 2015

    Oh Chevy I don't think u'r 100, I know u are. But I remember too---I think that piece of screen was ordered from the Willie Winkle show, and I also remember everyone watching TV on the sidewalk and no one said move along. And of course our fragrances are our signature as I put it--Today I am peaches--u notice mine are a lot of fruit. When Joey was a baby and after  I'd give him his bath I had my type of lotions and one u could use for babies so I bought it and he always smelled so good--It was from Perlier rom HSN but they had the best prices, it was always 1/2 of the store costs even with discounts so I could afford everything then.---oops there goes my phone

    OK or another minute I remember those phones and our first number was 8159J and oh yes party lines, they were usually u'r neighbors and boy it was sometimes fun to listen.

  • Chevyboy
    Chevyboy Member Posts: 10,786
    edited January 2015

    What? You mean you are "working?" Hah! Yes, I remember Jergens with that Almond scent! My Grand-son Chase always loved that too! But now we are more sophisticated. Remember Blue Waltz? And Evening in Paris? I mean we could hardly afford THOSE when we were young! And Chantilly, and White Shoulders?

    We've been tramps all our lives! HaaaaaaaahaHaaaaaaaaa!

    Our babies always smelled so good! And they loved when we put "their own" baby lotion on them...

    And we would play outdoors AFTER DARK??? And run playing hide-and seek all over the neighborhood? And then we grew up, and SMOKED!????? We lived dangerously!

  • Chevyboy
    Chevyboy Member Posts: 10,786
    edited January 2015

    Ah, it was fun with you this morning Cam! We could meet here EVERY morning! xoxoxoxo

  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited January 2015

    An optimist is the human personification of spring.  ~  Susan J. Bissonette

  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited January 2015

    Ah such a great morning.  So much posting and cutting up so we can feel some cheer for the blue spots.  Of course Sandra and Mike as well as beautiful Blondie stay on everyone's mind -- we all keep trying to push out tons and tons of positive energies to you.

    Then Di and that rotten flu.  I think it wasn't long into the time period when we were all getting our flu shots that it was discovered that they didn't get the right combo for the mutations.  Still, they did say I believe that though it wasn't QUITE right, we should all fare a little better for having gotten even the 'lessened' variety.  That we would not get as sick but that more of us would have SOME flu to have to get through.
    Doesn't seem fair, but I do know that they are actually guessing E VER Y year, and so most of the time we are ok.  I sure hope the Tamiflu does the trick for you Di.  What can you do --- stay warm and have some chicken soup, and of course hope they are right about having a lighter case of the flu.

    I sure enjoyed listening to Bill Haley and the Comets.  Those nostalgia trips are delightful.  I, ( along with many, many here I'm sure ) could dance for hours at a stretch.  Some how most of it seemed to almost come natural to me.  At that time though, I was thin and wiry --- and could I think move in any direction in pretty flamboyant fashion.  Though on American Bandstand it seemed like boys were always dancing with the girls,  at our local dances -- boys only wanted to dance the slow numbers.  Hmmm, wonder why ??? And we girl-friends always jumped up, scurried to the dance floor and danced to our favorite fast dance numbers.  Jitter buggin' on all of them while the boys talked amongst themselves and stole lots of long glances at the girls who always managed to throw a little extra wiggle in here or there.   

    I don't recall our number, but we had the party line phone.  Also did the thing where we set the t.v. ( it was a perfect fit ) into our window and half the town was out in our front yard watching t.v.  As kids, for a while our house was a very popular one since we were the first in town to actually have a t.v. in our home.  My Dad went to one of the local taverns -- and totally fell in love with the whole concept of t.v. ownership.  We were VERY poor then.  Subsisted on mainly $70.00 per month, family of four. Mom took in ironing and picked strawberries in season and other things like that to fill in --- so Dad made a deal with the people that owned the tavern.  They would buy the T.V. and give it to us right then and there --- and Dad would work every Sunday tending bar at the tavern till it was paid for.  They shook hands ( which was how things were often done in those days ) and every Sunday for I don't even remember how long --- my Dad was tending bar to pay for that t.v.   Later, of course, others started getting them but for the better part of a couple of summers -- our house seemed full all the time.  Some times you can say those were the days and really feel some of it, or a lot of it. 

    Worked 9 hours yesterday but it seems as though things will end up ok, so I did sleep pretty well last night and will have a fairly normal day today -- so can't truly complain of much.  Thank goodness -- I have been a really GOOD sleeper so I think I usually make up pretty well when I get out of what is my normal work mode and do a long stint now and then.  I feel nearly normal already.  I will work for awhile ( not real sure how long ) on Saturday night and will sure love the extra pay.

    Thanks to Di's wonderful generosity -- I soon will be the recipient of a sunshine light for the price of mailing costs.  I know -- I'm so whiney about the gray days that we have.  When they come -- I can just feel myself sinking almost immediately -- I know those days will pass, but it is so hard ( thank goodness the feral cats depend on my bringing food ) to feel good and without feeling I had too I don't think I would venture out the door for most of anything as my mood is about half way to " hmmm, should I hang myself now or just take sleeping pills and sleep thru till the sun comes back".  I don't think I'm too whiney about much of anything but that.  I try not to hate anything --- all we go through to me are events to ( grow ) in some way through -- but with the gray days, I just continue to dislike so strongly and whine away.

    That peach fluff -- drat -- I too wrote down the recipe to try and shame on me --- not sure where it is and obviously I let things get in the way of doing it.   I'm usually so EAGER to do a new recipe.      Just got to get that at the top of the list. 

    Ok, the big mouth will not climb down off the podium.  See you all later.

    Blessings,

    Jackie

  • Wren44
    Wren44 Member Posts: 8,585
    edited January 2015

    Jackie, I had several clients who swore by tanning booths. Someone found out that the skin on the back of the knees is thin enough for the light to have an effect. I would never do a tanning booth, but it's an interesting concept. The gray affects me the same way. A week in Mexico will keep me OK for weeks afterward. Yay for Di sending you a light. Use it fairly early in the morning so it doesn't interfere with sleep at night. And you don't have to look at it. You can sit and read the paper with it on near you.

    We had a party line phone in Houston in the 60's. They kept wanting us to get a private line. DH told them it wasn't a problem because it never seemed to be in use. They admitted we had the last party line in the city, which was effectively a private line.

    We had a TV like the one on legs. DM & DF gave it to us just before DS was born. Just in time to watch all the JFK coverage after his death in Dallas. He had been in Houston that morning and my boss attended the breakfast. When he found out, he had tears in his eyes.

    I remember all the old stuff since I'm 2 years younger than Chevy, which would make me ummmm 98.

  • Chevyboy
    Chevyboy Member Posts: 10,786
    edited January 2015

    Hahhhhhhhhhhh! Oh no you don't! You aren't 98! I can just tell!

    I don't know WHy I can remember all the old phone numbers and addresses from when I was a kid! Maybe because I WAS a LD operator, and that was part of our training... Even the old address my "boyfriend" was at when I met him, before we got married...

    And now we don't "have" to remember anything, because all the numbers are programmed in our phones.

    Magical, we go to bed EARLY! We eat a small Dinner about 4:30, then relax and watch TV for a couple hours, and sometimes I go to bed about 8! But I usually wake up about 4 or 4:30.... It's funny, because my Brother in Nashville is the same way.

    My Grandma and my folks did the same thing! Even if they listened to the news at 9, they were still up by 5! Maybe it's a "gene"..... Ha!

    Oh Wren, I remember the day when JFK was shot.... It was soooooooo sad! Seems like no matter what, everyone loved him.... the family. Couldn't even tell you if he was Democrat or Republican.... didn't matter.... Do you remember when WW2 was over? And how everyone was celebrating? Everyone drove down-town here, and were honking their horns! No more bread lines, or tokens for groceries, I was so little, but still remember, because my Dad was in the Navy, and got to come HOME finally! I remember that song..... Have I Stayed Away Too Long..... And every time I heard it, I missed my Dad so much! I think the war was over in what, 1946? (It was from 1939 to 1945).

    And remember the Cuban crisis? I was terrified that night.... thinking we would all be to War.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUX99hUJhTE

  • Wren44
    Wren44 Member Posts: 8,585
    edited January 2015

    Yes, the Cuban crisis was not good. My Dad worked for the Air Force at a SAC base. They called him to come in and he didn't come home for 3 days. Mom was rightfully worried sick.

    I don't remember the end of WW2. I lost my mother in 1945 and perhaps our family wasn't all that happy about anything. I do remember my uncle coming home in his navy uniform. I was peeling whitewash off the brick in front of the house when his taxi pulled up. He didn't rat on me either.

  • Chevyboy
    Chevyboy Member Posts: 10,786
    edited January 2015

    Oh, I'm so sorry you lost your Mom, so young! Both of you! My Dad was one of the servicemen who was sent to Hiroshima 3 days after we dropped the Atomic Bomb. Theri job was to clean, brush all the streets from all the ash and debris that rained down.... I can't imagine. I just know Dad didn't tell any of us about it, until Mom had died, and I was going to see him in CA... before he got so sick.

    He had brought home a lot of Japanese clogs, umbrella's, dresses,. guns.... etc. It's hard to understand the bombing of Pearl Harbor, WW2, and then all become friends....

    YOU almost got busted! Ha! You did it on BRICK? Yikes!

  • MinusTwo
    MinusTwo Member Posts: 16,634
    edited January 2015

    This is what I copied when the Peach Fluff was first discussed. Rita - is it yours? I'm going to note that Cami found it better with 2 cans of peach pie fulling.

    Fluffy Peach Salad:
    1 can peach pie filling
    1 can Eagle Brand milk
    1 medium-sized can of crushed pineapple drained
    1 1/2 cups mini marshmallows
    1 medium cool whip

    Mix well and place in the refrigerator for at least four hours before serving!
    It makes a generous serving. We had 10 guests that night.

  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited January 2015

    Minus,

    So glad you put the recipe back in here.  I could not for the life of me remember ( at least yet ) where I put all the recipes I copied from this and a couple of other threads.  Now I can make this soon.

    Jackie

  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited January 2015

    I copied this word for word from the other thread where I put these quotes because I believe it so strongly.

     

    Sometimes you need to take time for you -- the glorious inside of you.

    Rest is not idleness, and to lie sometimes on the grass
    on a summer day listening to the murmur of water, or watching
    the clouds float across the sky, is hardly a waste of time.
     
    John Lubbock

    Things like this can bring alive the most wonderful thoughts, and deep feelings that are inside and don't always come to the surface easily.  The above things so often help you and you barely have to try -- just close your eyes and let you come out, gradually and gracefully.  Maybe a lot of surprises about you too.  Brings wonderful peace and contentment with it.  Good restorative.


     

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