Starting Chemo January 2015

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  • kjybaby
    kjybaby Member Posts: 15
    edited January 2015

    I haven't been back on the forum in a while, but I've been getting emails and it's so comforting to know that you guys are here! Thank you!

    I finally feel less anxious and more prepared: I pushed chemo a week back so that I could take a last minute trip with my boyfriend to Mexico. A little sun and relaxation has done me well!

    Cold caps have been ordered. However, I realized I still haven't purchased/rented headbands. I figured buying them as opposed to renting them would be easiest and best. Does anyone have a "brand" or "material" they do or do not recommend? Much appreciated in advance!

    T - 8 days...

  • kjybaby
    kjybaby Member Posts: 15
    edited January 2015

    Also, for those of you asking about wigs, please, please look into Lolly's Locks! The CEO is fantastic, beyond helpful, and you may qualify for a high-quality wig free of charge.

    https://lollyslocks.org/



  • Cherylfg
    Cherylfg Member Posts: 97
    edited January 2015

    Hi Everybody,

    I love all of the pictures! I couldn't shave my head last weekend but it think it will have to go this weekend. It's really falling out now.

    Tomorrow is my second round of AC. I'm not looking forward to the 4 days of SE like I had last time. I do feel like I have a better idea of how to manage them though.

    Cheryl

  • Beachbum1023
    Beachbum1023 Member Posts: 1,417
    edited January 2015

    Hi Cherylfg, good luck tomorrow I hope it goes well, and you have the side effects under control. How are the mouth sores doing?

  • RV6gal
    RV6gal Member Posts: 331
    edited January 2015

    TeriMP – Sorry to hear you didn't get much help from your nurse but glad to hear the pain is subsiding a bit.Hoping it continues to get better so you have minimal pain leading up to your meeting on the 3rd.

    Sweethope – thanks for the compliments on my cheekbones!That is so nice as previously I thought my hair was one of my better features.Guess we can see the cheekbones more with the hair out of the way!

    For all of you worrying about the shape of your head, I am totally worried about a small scar on the back of my head.I got it many years ago when I was hit by a car breaking 2 bones in my leg and a crack in the head.It was only 10 stitches at that time but I can still feel the spot all these years later.I can't see it too much yet and maybe my fears will be unfounded but I feel like I won't have a great looking bald head either.So be it! LOL

    Kbram, I am so sorry to hear your chemo got delayed.It is so frustrating because you gear yourself up for it.I watch my calendar very closely.On the other hand, I am happy that they are looking into the issue you experienced during the port insertion.I think it is always best to have all the information you need before moving forward. The missed echocardiogram can happen to anyone but I sure wish we had ways to keep on top of them about all that.

    I had the opportunity to order some of my pathology and scan reports and while I knew most of the information, there was some (not serious) information that was not relayed to me that I felt was good to know.It didn't relate to cancer but it does relate to my overall health.It cost me $25 but I felt it was worth it.You'd think in this technological age, we would be able to access that information online.I think some places in the US have something like that but I don't believe we do here in Canada.. too bad!

    Spookisgirl, glad you are set for Friday.Congrats on the clean scan results too!Just wanted to mention that I gain about 5 lbs right away from the steroids and fluid they give me during the infusions but I weigh myself everyday and by the 2nd day I lose that 5 lb again.I'm not too worried right now about losing weight but I am trying to stay active to keep my weight under control.Not sure if I can, but I'm going to try.If you get some great tips from your nutritionist, I'd love to hear them.

    Cherylfg, sending you good vibes for your 2nd chemo tomorrow.Knowing what's coming and staying on top of the SE's is the way to go.I know we are on different treatments but I did find the SE's came a little sooner this time for me.

    Kjybaby, getting away before chemo is a great idea.Hope you have a great time and can put this all out of your head while you are away.I had a trip planned when I got my DX and I'm glad I took it before my surgery.I was able to not think about this whole thing for that week and it felt good!

    Update on cycle 2 day 2 for me was a lot of fatigue.I took my anti nausea pills as prescribed and it seemed to keep that under control; however, the heartburn started today again.My oncologist told me to keep trying different things if I find they don't work.Right now I'm using tums and they do help just not for very long.The heartburn did go away last cycle eventually.I had planned on going for a walk today but it started to rain here and made the sidewalks a suicide path! Opted to stay in instead and unfortunately spent most of that time on my couch snoozing.Hoping for a more active day tomorrow!

    Goodnight ladies!!

  • Lillp07
    Lillp07 Member Posts: 124
    edited January 2015

    I had my hair shaved off on Saturday a couple of days before my second round. Today is four days after my second round of FEC and my hair is pulling out quite easily. Im unsure whether to shave it with a razor or just let it fall out bit by bit.

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  • Tennisfan
    Tennisfan Member Posts: 114
    edited January 2015

    Bonjour from cold Canada this morning!

    I am SO glad to see that despite all the little hurdles, we are all finding our path/way through. Little by little, taming the beast, and reajusting every day according to the new information.

    spookisgirl - great news on the clean scan!

    TeriMP, sorry for the issues - we're here with you!

    Cherylfg - YOU ARE 50% done the nasty part as of today - just repeat that ad nauseam in the next 5 days, to keep you going til you emerge out of cycle 2.

    RVgal and Lilp07 -you guys rock!

    Can't remember who wants to shave their head with a razor, but everywhere I read not to do that, to avoid a cut/nick that could get infected. This is why I shaved my hair to 1/8th of an inch. When it will start falling, I will see my hairdresser for a good shampoo so that the hair falls in her sink, not mine (she is a BC survivor too and suggested that I come to her when the time comes).

    As far as SEs go, I was able to work without a hitch on days 4 and 5 (after resting and doing not much on days 1-2-3) but left the office in mid-afternoon on day 6 with flu-like symptoms. Thanks to this forum, it reminded me that this is normal and that I was likely not actually coming down with the flu!

    I am now navigating between paranoïa and laissez-faire lol. Hard to find the balance in between.... For example, I went to the convenience store yesterday, as I have a newfound craving for grilled cheese sandwiches (I have had one everyday for the past three days). So after buying cheeze and english muffins to keep the calorie-count low, I get to the cashier. She is sneezing, blowing her noze, and... Handing out cash. I changed lanes but in the end I don't know how fragile I truly am or if this is too careful for nothing? i lso enjoy ready-made food and coffee-shops - not sure if if I should just continue going or avoid entirely for the next six months?

    One thing I am happy about is that I decided not to drink during my chemo (alcool definitely brings my immune system down so I don't want to mess with that) and so far a glass of wine is definitely something I don't think I would enjoy. And I am so scared I might take a dislike in it that I am going to pass until I am sure I will enjoy it again, especially bubbly wine lol.

    Bon, time for snack no 2 (grilled cheese sandwich!). i have no choice but to spend what I eat so tonight will be at least 30 minutes of stationary bike while watching my favourite series... I tried on day 5 and it was surprisingly easy. Also scheduled a tennis lesson for Friday. Can't wait to report how that goes - I am scared to death to tire out but it will be such a mental victory ;0)))

    Do take care, I think of all of you often!

    Marjorie

    P.s. Thanks for the compliments about my headshape lol.

  • RV6gal
    RV6gal Member Posts: 331
    edited January 2015

    Lillp07 - great pic! I agree with Tennisfan as I heard from some that we shouldn't risk cutting our heads. I keep thinking of some cream hair removal as it is pretty annoying to have the little hairs falling out too but I'm worried it may be too strong for the scalp. I definitely have lots of bald spots now.

    Tennisfan, glad to hear you are doing well. I feel a little like you too but I tend to lean to the laissez faire and keep my hands very very clean. Wow, I see it is -14C in Montreal today. It is plus 6C here in Edmonton. The country has done a flip flop!

    U4iachic, hope your first chemo went well yesterday and you are having a good day today.

    Wishing a smooth chemo infusion to dstar,lynnM and loriekg today!You've got this!!

    Day 3 post chemo 2 for me and I'm feeling good today.I'm going to meet up with a friend for lunch so decided to wear my borrowed wig out for the first time and see how I do.I suspect I will find it a bit hot. Here's my pic:

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    Have a great day everyone!!



  • Beachbum1023
    Beachbum1023 Member Posts: 1,417
    edited January 2015

    Good morning Ladies, nice heads and wigs! As far as the little tiny hairs left from the cuts, I left them fall out. I wash my head with Johnson's Baby Shampoo and most of them went down the drain. But the ones left behind, I used duct tape. Really I did! My hairdresser told me to massage my scalp and that should help. Since my hair is coming back in, I still use baby shampoo but I use my old conditioner. That seems to work well. And smells good too.

    I hope everyone is doing well!

  • RV6gal
    RV6gal Member Posts: 331
    edited January 2015

    Good morning Beachbum1023, Duct Tape is a great idea. We have loads of that around here. I'm going to try that later today.

    Thanks for the tip!

  • Tennisfan
    Tennisfan Member Posts: 114
    edited January 2015

    OMG RVGal!!! You totally look like... You with short hair - great pick!!!

    Now I have a comment, and a question: first, I have to say that I have rediscovered the simple pleasure of eating sn apple. Yes, an apple. I keep it for the end of the day when I am parched and keen on going home - the sweet uicy taste of a Granny Smith and other spples have literally almost made me shed a tear, since my mouth is typically so, so dry!!! In writing this, I am now understandng why I am also enjoying carrots, peppers, cucumbers and grape tomatoes with hummus - heslthy, but most importsntly nice and cold in the mouth...

    So that brings me to the question: do you have any low-calorie snacks ideas to share? i want to make a big list before I go grocery shopping on the weekend. This is only the beginning so I am not tired of my current options yet but thought I'd ask for input. i bought a huge box of popsicles but it's so cold up here they make me shiver lol - I will enjoy those starting in May I guess, but not befor...

    Thanks for any suggestions - I will entertain them all, as long as rhey are healthy (exception made for Kraft Singles - cravings do not count!!!)

    Tennisfan

  • RV6gal
    RV6gal Member Posts: 331
    edited January 2015

    I don't know the calorie count but one of my favorite snacks/deserts is strawberries/banana and one of those small ready made Jello vanilla puddings. Fruit cut up and pudding chilled from the fridge - hmm hmmm good! Helped alot with my heartburn too.

  • loriekg
    loriekg Member Posts: 263
    edited January 2015

    tennisfan...it is great to hear you talk about playing tennis!! It was one year ago TODAY that I had hip resurfacing surgery (I flew to South Carolina to have this instead of a total hip replacement--primarily so I could keep playing tennis!) :)

    How about adding tangerines to your shopping list..they travel well and are cool and juicy! I like Wendy's pudding cup suggestion too! And Wendy--your wig looks great! Can't believe that's borrowed and such a good color on you!

    Speaking of not shaving for infection reasons...I read on another board that if you've had a SNB that you should NOT shave under your arms with a razor...but use an electric razor instead to reduce risk of lymphodema? I hadn't heard this before...anyone else?

    Thanks, kjybaby, for the link for Lolly's Locks. I'll check that out!

    I am in the middle of my first chemo right now. So far so good. (The only "kink" was before treatment when they wanted to collect my deductible. Guess all the other appts hadn't shown up in the insurance yet. Luckily I had all my receipts...but seriously--with my core needle biopsy, echocardiogram, numerous consults, then SNB under general anethesia...and you don't think I've met my deductible?! Really didn't need that little bit of stress right before I was to get started, ya know?!

    Congrats on your good news, Jenn!

    --Lorie

  • Cherylfg
    Cherylfg Member Posts: 97
    edited January 2015

    Wendy- your wig looks great! How did it go?

    Beachbum- my mouth sores are better but my tongue has developed a big crack. I'm just sticking to bland, gentle food and it helps.

    My second infusion had gone well. I still had some sinus reaction to the Cytoxan. I brought some lozenges and they helped. I think I'm much less anxious about it, which impacts my nausea. We'll see how I feel later.

    Cheryl

  • Lillp07
    Lillp07 Member Posts: 124
    edited January 2015

    Hi Lorie

    I was told to not shave with a razor after the node biopsy too. I was told to use an electric.

  • RV6gal
    RV6gal Member Posts: 331
    edited January 2015

    Loriekg, good thing you had all your receipts.That does seem rather stressful!!Glad to hear the chemo is going well though.I agree with you and Lillp07, I too have heard that about shaving your underarms with a razor is a no no but I still do it. The tricky part is that I must do it separately at the bathroom sink as I still a large nerveless area there now so I like to see what I'm doing because I can't feel it at all anymore.I have had no issues with it that way just seems like an extra step now.Supposedly taxotere later will take care of that for a while !

    The wigs are pretty good quality but you can't alter them in anyway. This is my second one as the one I picked up first was just too long especially in the bangs.I got the first one when I still had all my hair so I was able to get it matched to my color pretty good.While I'm not crazy about this one being so short, it is easier for me to manage and any way you look at it free is good.I will post a pic of the back of the wig below – nice enough I think.

    Cherylfg, it went ok today with it on today as I didn't get as hot as I thought (guess not having as much of my own hair as an insulator helped..LOL)

    Did you try to get that special mouthwash?It could help soothe that crack maybe??Sorry to hear you have to deal with that!!Glad your chemo went well.Being less nervous will definitely be of help too.Just stay on top on hydration as well.

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  • dimccleland
    dimccleland Member Posts: 59
    edited January 2015

    Hey ladies, I'm going to apologise AGAIN for not having be around much ... have been reading through all your posts and am loving all the positive vibes and the great photos.

    After several ups and downs, my oncologist finally decided to go ahead with chemo and I had my first treatment on Wednesday. Given the problems with my liver, she has decided to shelve the AC component of the treatment for now and has decided to go with Taxol, Herceptin and Perjeta weekly for twelve weeks. Wednesday and Thursday were a walk in the park for me with minimal side effects - dry mouth, a little nausea and that's it ... today is a completely different story ... I feel like I have a severe head cold combined with a really, really bad hangover ... horrible headache, nausea, an upset tummy and terrible fatigue ... have had a very quiet day at home (spent most of the time in bed) and am hoping for a better day tomorrow. Also hopeful that as I am having treatment every week, my body will have a chance to recover before the next session.

    Thinking of you all xx

  • RV6gal
    RV6gal Member Posts: 331
    edited January 2015

    dimccleland, it's good to hear from you and that treatment plan is underway! While our "cocktails" are different, I too hit low points both times. Different days with day 5 being the worst for cycle1 and day 2 for cycle2. This time I have found heartburn being the worst companion. Tums is still working but I have to take more. Hope you are feeling better soon

  • Tennisfan
    Tennisfan Member Posts: 114
    edited January 2015

    Sending you both virtual cold vanilla puddings and a little hug this morning!

    This is a nice reminder that I cannot excpect the same reaction at each cycle. i put in my mind that cycle 1 was the worst so I guess I need to reset my database :0(((

    Keep going, you're onebig step closer to the finish line!!!

    Marjo(rie)

  • SweetHope
    SweetHope Member Posts: 439
    edited January 2015

    First infusion of AC was Tuesday, Neulasta shot on Wednesday, flu-y on Thursday and all of upper body bones aching this morning. I'm taking Claritin, phenergan and zofran. Ears are ringing, sleep is fleeting. Did you question agreeing to chemo?

  • RV6gal
    RV6gal Member Posts: 331
    edited January 2015

    thanks Tennisfan for encouragement and hugs! Neither cycle is worse or better just a little different. Going with the flow works best for me too!


    Oh sweethope, I have never questioned starting the chemo really but on my good days I wonder if it's still working! LOLThat's how crazy this all is right?

  • TortyLass
    TortyLass Member Posts: 43
    edited January 2015

    Hi everyone. Another lurker finally checking in. I'm Anastasia and just had my first TC tx yesterday - it was a mixed bag. I've been reading your posts for a while now and looking forward to finally joining in the coversation as we move through this bugger. :) You are all such an inspiration! I love the pix of all the new do's as well!


  • TeriMP
    TeriMP Member Posts: 89
    edited January 2015

    Hi ladies,

    I have to say it is so inspiring to see all of you in your glory with your new hair cuts. :). I did shave my head before my first treatment but still uncomfortable with my new look.

    Today seems to be the turning point, I am starting to get energy back and feeling generally well. First. 7 days were torture but I know I can make it through!!

    Sweethope - I know exactly how you feel, I did question whether all this sickness I was feeling from the chemo was worth it (as I did t feel sick knowing I had BC). But now that I am past the hump and physically /mentally feeling better I know it was the right choice. I will deal with this cancer now and hopefully never again!!

    Torylass - welcome!! I know it's not a place anyone wants to be, but everyone here is so supportive and offers great advice it a eat to listen!

    Have a great day all!

  • kbram
    kbram Member Posts: 185
    edited January 2015

    Welcome, TortyLass!

    SweetHope, I did question having chemo!  Having had a recurrence, I questioned the need for chemo.  My breast surgeon thought surgery and then radiation, no chemo.  My oncologist said otherwise!  She pointed out to me that it had proven to come back one time and who knows if again?  In addition, this recurrence happened when I was on Aromasin, which is an anti-estrogen med.  She also said that she treats Stage IV women that would like to have this decision as a do-over!  She also told me to look at the San Antonio breast cancer conference info for more case studies for recurring breast cancer.  I considered everything and decided I would do chemo.

    We all make the best decisions at the time. I've often wondered if I had done radiation the first time around if I would be dealing with a recurrence now.  Who knows? 

    Hi to everyone!

    Kathy

     

     


     

  • thecolorpurple
    thecolorpurple Member Posts: 126
    edited January 2015

    Dear sweet hope I want to share with you that I am from Louisiana. I spent the first 10 years of my life in Luling and the rest of my childhood and adolescence and Hammond Louisiana. Have spent much time in New Orleans. My family still lives in Hammond. My sister lives in Slidell

    I am so sorry that you're having side effects. Have you called your oncologist to see if there is anything they can do about your symptoms? Given how you're feeling I don't think it would be unreasonable for them to give you something for your bone pain and insomnia. Keep in touch and let us know how you're doing. I do think this chemo is worth it. For me anything that will prevent recurrence and allow me to have more time with my family and loved ones is worth whatever suffering I have to go through.

    We are all with you and wishing the best for you and helping you feel much better very soon!

    Love,

    Kristin

  • thecolorpurple
    thecolorpurple Member Posts: 126
    edited January 2015

    dimcclelland ,


    Please call your oncologist and tell her/him what you are going through. There may be a better antiemetic for you or maybe some other recommendations to deal with your severe headache and nausea. Please keep us in the loop and let us know how you are. I am so sorry you are feeling so awful.

    Love Kristin

  • thecolorpurple
    thecolorpurple Member Posts: 126
    edited January 2015

    Marjorie have you tried celery? Full of water. I also read watermelon is a great chemo recovery food due to the water content, the antioxidants, and fiber-i do realize it has a lot of natural sugar, but.....

    I really like pea protein shakes with frozen organic berries, almond milk, a dash of vanilla and cinnamon, too. You can also blend really well washed greens in this smoothie for extra benefits. The pea protein I have is from NOW foods with 1 gm of carbs and no sugar. It has 24 gm protein per serving.

    Thanks for your cheer. Let us know how that tennis lesson goes-way to go !

    Love Kristin

  • mommacat4
    mommacat4 Member Posts: 215
    edited January 2015

    Hello everyone,

    I had to catch up on everyone's posts. I haven't been on here for a few days, the SE's got to me.

    Thanks for the tips about the biotine. I will get some tomorrow.

    Some of the SE's I have been having over the last few days are, fever one night but that night I was having sever abdominal pain. I almost went to the hospital but had no one to drive me till my daughter got home from work at 1:30 am. By then I had taken anxiety meds, pain meds, laxitives and senna tea. I decided to try to sleep it off. by the time she was home from work the pain had simmered down. Still constipated the next day. After another dose of laxitives I was moving again. Another SE is bloating. Seems like no matter what I eat I bloat. Also my face had broken out in a plethora of pimples or rash or something. I haven't read anything about this being a SE. I still have the hard heart beat. I called the triage line. The nurse said if I have chest pain go to the hospital. I will talk to my oncologist about this. I still have a lot of fatigue. I have enough energy for about 2 solid hours then I am wiped out for the day. My 2nd chemo treatment is this coming Wednesday (Jan 28th)

    Tonight my cat was trying to climb down from the back of the couch to my lap and stepped directly on my port, since then it feels like the tubing going from my port upward has a kink or bend in it. I hope she didn't damage it. I called my insurance 24hr nurse line and they said to call my dr on Monday.

    I am very fortunate that I still have my hair. I think that is very short lived though, it is going more flat and dull looking every day. I do have a wig but she still lives in her box...lol. I don't know how friendly we will be.

    Tonight I noticed in the mirror that my eyes are starting to get dark circles around them.

    thank you ladies for sharing and caring here. I am emotionally lifted when I read about the positive and uplifting stories especially about the exercise. .. how do you people walk so much and work through all the fatigue? I will try walking even if it is a small amount and I work my way up. Thank you all for the inspiration.

  • mommacat4
    mommacat4 Member Posts: 215
    edited January 2015

    Cherylfg, I wanted to ask how your children are doing with mommy going through this?

  • Cherylfg
    Cherylfg Member Posts: 97
    edited January 2015

    mommacat- I found my bloating subsided quite a bit on day 6, also around the time my constipation disappeared. I'm sorry about your port. How is it feeling today?

    My kids are doing pretty well. My husband and I talk to them about it a lot and I think it helps. It was harder when I was first diagnosed because I was upset a lot and that scared them. They have been really great with being gentle around me and not jumping on me or playing rough around me. We explained I would have to have special medicine to make sure the illness never came back and the DRs would put it in through the port. They can see the port, which helps.

    For my hair, my 5-year-old thinks it's is really funny and tells everybody that his "mom has special medicine in her veins so you have to be gentle with her. It traveled to her hair and made it fall out. Isn't that funny?" He explains it in that exact quote to all of his friends, teachers, random people. As for my 3-year-old, it is mostly life as usual. He has always been my special buddy so I try to make sure he still gets lots of hugs and snuggles.

    We try to stick to their routine as much as possible, except we watch a lot more TV than we used to.

    Cheryl

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