Starting 2015 with Tamoxifien

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  • CAS4
    CAS4 Member Posts: 54
    edited January 2015

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC324575...


    Another warrior had posted this. Very interesting, also keep being told to add prunes and a magnesium supplement ASAP so I will do that tomorrow.

    Blownaway don't worry you won't be in pain at all. It was the second or third day when I noticed any discomfort but Advil controlled it- remember no Advil before- bleeding and all.

  • Cindyv
    Cindyv Member Posts: 2
    edited January 2015

    Hi I've been stalling taking my tamoxifen for 3 months now. I am so afraid of taking the meds???? It's crazy, I think that breast cancer for me was this blur and weird inconvenient thing that happened and I don't have the fear of reoccurance but the fear of meds. Supposed to start tonight but I started reading posts and not sure if I want to go to sleep worrying. Wish I coukd just take it and see

  • RainDew
    RainDew Member Posts: 305
    edited January 2015

    Cindy - why not just try it?

    I've been on for 3 months now - no side effects whatsoever. Like zero. Maybe some hot flashes, but I think that's the chemopause. Maybe I am a little sleepier than usual, but am still recovering from chemo.

    Mostly, I feel great. Thrilled to be done with chemo, and happy that this drug can help me so much and be so painless.

    I know lots of women do have issues, but I also think plenty do not...we might just be quieter?

  • Nancy2581
    Nancy2581 Member Posts: 1,234
    edited January 2015

    good to hear Raindew. I needed to hear that. I start on the 27th. I too am so happy to finally be done with chemo.

    Nancy

  • Cindyv
    Cindyv Member Posts: 2
    edited January 2015

    thank you that's a good point. I just get cautious of all the treatments that the cancer community gives us good and bad. When you hear alternative people talking about the money people make off of cancer treatments it makes you skeptical to be on the "cancer train" as I call it going full steam with only one way of looking at cures. Of course if I put my money where my mouth is I should be eating a raw vegan diet right?? I'm trying to approach this with some balance and not have the side effects and results be ( almost) as bad as the possibility of reoccurance. My younger sister who finished 5 years ago now has very bad osteoporosis. She had tremendous joint pain the entire time. She's also very fit and was only 45 at the time. And I realize it's not cancer, it's just a quality of life issue. Another acquaintance found out she now had uterine cancer after 2 years.i just want to hear from real women who are in the middle of it. Not statistics. Trying to make an educated choice, not being negative just want to hear what others are really feeling. Thanks for your input.

  • pattief
    pattief Member Posts: 32
    edited January 2015

    hello all... I am supposed to start taking tamoxifen but am scared of side effects. I will only be on it for a short time as I am having a complete hysterectomy in the near future (just waiting for a date) and will then switch to anastrozole. To say taking these meds is causing me extreme anxiety is an understatement. I already suffer from anxiety and take buspar and xanax for it. I know not having to do chemo due to oncotype of 12 is a blessing and this should be easier to do, and that I need to do it to help prevent recurrence but I just can't get past the fear. has anyone else felt this way and how did you get past it? Any advice would be appreciated. .thanks :)

  • MagicalBean
    MagicalBean Member Posts: 362
    edited January 2015

    5 whole days on Tamoxifen and no side effects so far. Don't know how soon they are supposed to kick in if they're going to, but so far it's nothing to worry about.

  • Blownaway
    Blownaway Member Posts: 760
    edited January 2015

    Me too - been taking Tam for 2 weeks now and notice having fewer hot flashes than I have been and am sleeping better. I take it with dinner. Nothing bad to report yet.

  • MNLinda
    MNLinda Member Posts: 204
    edited January 2015

    I was on tamoxifen for three years, then switched to Femara.  I had no issues with the tamoxifen.  I had major hot flashes when I was finishing up the chemotherapy, and lots of joint pain when I was about 3-4 months post-chemo.  Neither symptom became any worse when I started on tamoxifen - both actually improved.  Maybe things were due to start getting better around that time, regardless of the med.

    The most bothersome symptom since I switched to Femara is vaginal dryness.  Never had that problem at all on Tamoxifen.

  • Psalm34-4
    Psalm34-4 Member Posts: 66
    edited January 2015

    I started Tamoxifen Dec 17th, I take 20mg Morning and at Night. So far... I have not noticed anything other than I just had my first period since starting, seems like it wasnt quite as heavy as prior. Before I found out about my BC, I was already having heavier periods/ cramping and wanting to talk with GYN about what we could do to help with symptoms. I didn't want to have hysterectomy, was hoping for an ablation.. but now in hindsite.. I am really interested in complete hysterectomy and wonder if any other women made that choice after ER+ BC ? I see a new GYN in couple of weeks, but would like to hear from others in my shoes! My Rad Onc told me to wait, seemed to want me on Tamoxifen more than Arimidex, but said it's because he has harder time with patients staying compliant with Arimidex due to joint pain. I am hot natured, and have been terrified of the dreaded HOT FLASH, but so far can't really say I have noticed anything different.. and my friends who have been through hot flashes tell me I will know when I have one, lol !  I have woken up a couple of times during night, but fell right back asleep.. I normally do not wake up once I fall asleep.. dont know if that is due to Tamoxifen or was just coincidental.

    Interested to hear how things go for you Pattie.. sounds like we may be in the same boat.

    I have read articles that say you can use Tamoxifen even for post-menopausal women.. I'm 46 and already have joint pains, so dont want to add to that, but I have also read articles that cite Arimidex with better prevention rates than Tamoxifen in post menopausal women. So many decisions.. Ughh Shocked

  • MarieBernice6234
    MarieBernice6234 Member Posts: 202
    edited January 2015

    Hi Pattief and others -

    I seem to be on the same timeline, plus or minus a few days and I just finished rads on 12/19/14. On this coming Thursday, I am supposed to be meeting with my medical oncologist to discuss taking the Tamoxifen. I have heard about some of the horror stories as well as some of the more positive reports to counterbalance it. Even so I have misgivings about it. With my track record, I had a reaction to the radiation that nobody had expected or even wanted to admit could happen at first - starting this oral chemotherapy can be a bit scary.


    MarieBernice6234

  • Bow1965
    Bow1965 Member Posts: 127
    edited January 2015

    I started Tamoxifen in mid-November and haven't had any side effects except for hot flashes. They seem to be getting more frequent and are waking me up at night. My oncologist suggest Black Cohosh, which I just picked up at Walgreens. Anyone heard of this or any other suggestions? I am also still going to acupuncture at my cancer center. These hot flashes are a big fat drag! I'm 49 and in chemo pause.

  • pattief
    pattief Member Posts: 32
    edited January 2015

    Happy Sunday!! I'm happy to see many are not having many side effects. After much hesitation I took my first tamoxifen last night at 7 PM with dinner and felt great, even slept through to 6:30 this morning. I don't typically sleep well. That's when the fun began..woke up with heart racing, warm, shaking, slightly dizzy and very nauseous. I did not take my calcium channel blocker, verapamil last night as I fell asleep so that could be why but I did take it this morning. Heart is still racing. I will see how the day goes and take again tonight and hope for the best.

    I am having complete hysterectomy due to the fact that I am BRCA2 positive and my grandmother and aunt both had ovarian cancer. Dr. didn't mention anything about having hysterectomy due to being Er+ but I have read that many women do remove ovaries or take another med to a shut down ovaries. It's a personal choice but with my family history and the Brca2 , I did not hesitate.

    I will only be on tamoxifen until surgery and then switch to Anastrozole. Is that the same as Arimedex? I am dreading feeling this way for 5 or more years and I'm sure being forced into menopause will not help. Good thing is there are other medications to try if one doesn't work for us. Hoping that over time our bodies get used to these medications and SE we have are tolerable.

    I look forward to hearing everyone's experience and what works for them to combat side effects

  • badhairday
    badhairday Member Posts: 178
    edited January 2015

    Joining the club!

    I started Tamoxifen this week. I finished chemo the day before thanksgiving, and my MO said to wait until after the holidays to start Tamox. I filled the script, but it has taken me a few weeks to get up the nerve to start taking it. So far, so good, but it has only been a few days. Anybody know when the SEs, if any, will begin showing up? I had such a hard time with chemo, that I am really hoping this phase of tx will go smoothly for me! I am also planning a total hysterectomy in Feb, but will stay with the Tamox for 3 years before switching, due to bone loss issues.

  • LiLi-RI
    LiLi-RI Member Posts: 291
    edited January 2015

    badhairday:So I have read that Tamoxifen SE (if any!) start at around the 3 week marker. I had a complete hysterectomy at 44 yr.....I am now 52 yr.

    Pattief: Ask your MO about why she is recommending Arimidex instead Tamoxifen?

  • Mommato3
    Mommato3 Member Posts: 633
    edited January 2015

    I'm glad to hear the SE start at about 3 weeks. Wednesday will be 5 weeks for me. So far, just some hot flashes but even those seem to have slowed down a little. Now I do have to say that I have been keeping the heat in my house at 66 degrees. Normal for us is about 68 so not too much lower. I would rather add layers instead of trying to take stuff off!

  • Blownaway
    Blownaway Member Posts: 760
    edited January 2015


    I am post menopausal (about 10 years) and have had a complete hysterectomy on top of that about (8 years ago). My onco prescribed Tamoxifen instead of Arimidex because of my osteoporosis.

  • Professor50
    Professor50 Member Posts: 220
    edited January 2015

    I just wanted to add that I talked with my MO about cutting the tamox in half and doing half in the am and half in the pm. She said that actually that's what they always used to do. The dose was always split up into twice a day. The problem was the people seemed to forget the second dose too much. So studies showed that it didn't matter if you did it all at once or spread out. So, feel free to spread it out or whatever works best for you.

    I just started my second bottle last night. So far so good.

  • Blownaway
    Blownaway Member Posts: 760
    edited January 2015


    Is everyone taking 20 mg a day like me?  I thought I saw someone post that she was taking that amount twice daily.

  • Psalm34-4
    Psalm34-4 Member Posts: 66
    edited January 2015

    I'm on 20mg twice daily...

  • RainDew
    RainDew Member Posts: 305
    edited January 2015

    I have 10mg twice a day

  • hummingbirdlover
    hummingbirdlover Member Posts: 421
    edited January 2015

    I take 20 mg once per day

  • MagicalBean
    MagicalBean Member Posts: 362
    edited January 2015

    20 mg 1xday here too

  • yikes1
    yikes1 Member Posts: 120
    edited January 2015

    prescribed 20 mg/day. have not started yet .

  • pattief
    pattief Member Posts: 32
    edited January 2015
  • badhairday
    badhairday Member Posts: 178
    edited January 2015

    20 mg once per day for me.

    What time does everybody take their dose?

    I have been taking it at 11 pm, with my Lexapro, and have had a lot of trouble sleeping, Not sure if it is the drug or my stress-filled life that is keeping me up half the night!

  • Gongshow16
    Gongshow16 Member Posts: 26
    edited January 2015

    Taking 20mg once a day. That's the standard from what I've read. I was told to take it at bedtime to ward off any possible nausea. Doesn't seem to interrupt my sleep- yet!

  • pattief
    pattief Member Posts: 32
    edited January 2015

    I take mine at 10, no trouble sleeping yet but I have only been taking it for 3 days. I also take xanax around 9:30. So far I am sleeping better but still up early

  • CAS4
    CAS4 Member Posts: 54
    edited January 2015

    20 mg once a day and I take it about 8 pm, get in bed by 11- read an hour then sleep. Today was day 8. I am still sleeping fairly well- mild leg cramps and more restless if I didn't exercise. But when I do sleep I crash. I'm sure it's chemo and rad all having worn us down too. I'm on effexor 150mg in am, so far no serious hot flashes.

  • MagicalBean
    MagicalBean Member Posts: 362
    edited January 2015

    I take mine with breakfast. No problems so far. But it's only been a week.

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