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  • caligirl3
    caligirl3 Member Posts: 86
    edited January 2015

    I'm wondering the same thing Bev. I see my PS next week. I'm going to ask him about the swelling. I had been so happy to see a flat belly until today. It really swelled up:( I know it's a long process and we need to be patient, but it's still discouraging. I have a pretty physically demanding job. I'm really worried about going back:( I'll let you know what my PS says.

  • SaltyJack
    SaltyJack Member Posts: 420
    edited January 2015

    thanks, Cali. I saw my PS this week and thought I asked him all my questions then remembered about 4 more by the time I saw the nurse on the way out....and now am wondering about the swelling.

    Bev

  • Tan72
    Tan72 Member Posts: 52
    edited January 2015

    my understanding is your bodies natural fluid flow was disrupted with all the moving around and it takes awhile for your body/fluids to find its new route. Don't fully understand all of the details, but kinda made sense when the doctor explained it ( as much as any of this can) ha ha. Hope this helps

  • LAstar
    LAstar Member Posts: 1,574
    edited January 2015

    It sounds like lymphatic drainage issues. My understanding is that the entire lymph system drains from arms and legs through the torso and down the abdomen before going out through the kidneys. It sounds like the lymph just backs up for a while since it sounds like it resolves quickly. Correct me if I'm wrong please!

  • jmb5
    jmb5 Member Posts: 532
    edited January 2015

    caligirl, I got swelly belly for a long time too, mostly noticed it in the evening. I wouldn't say you overdid it unless you had pain. Swelling is normal. Did you push a grocery cart? I remember as soon as I could drive, I got groceries, and quickly realized I couldn't push a heavy cart. Lol!

    Tan, my first stage 2 I had the compression from mid-calf up. It was June. :( It was because she did some lipo on my knees. I wouldn't do that again. At least not that time of year since I couldn't wear shorts. Second stage 2 I had compression that covered my thighs up to below my breasts. I wore the zip up Velcro monstrosity the doctor gave me and then switched to Spanx. And no, she never said how much fat, just that it was a lot.

  • Tan72
    Tan72 Member Posts: 52
    edited January 2015

    jmb5, my ps said to wear the compression for at least 6 weeks, either the one she put me in after surgery mid calf to upper belly or some other form of spanks or tight yoga pants. I can remove them on Sunday for the first time to shower, then I'll decide what to put back on, the one I have is also a monstrosity with zippers and a snap on each side. To be honest based on the amount of swelling I don't know if I could even get it back on if I wanted too. Lol.

    Glad it's over and happy to be back home in my own bed.

    Ready for a good nights sleep.

  • wintersocks
    wintersocks Member Posts: 922
    edited January 2015

    So I got out of the shower and noticed a pearly looking lump on the mx scar on my recon. Just where the tumour was towards the cleavage. It definitely was not there last week when I got the ultrasound for those other lumps. I think it is getting bigger.

    I guess I am going to have to speak to my nurse tomorrow and most likely get another u/s.

    I mean, it feels like the thing has literally come up overnight. I am coming up for 5 weeks now post Diep.

    I don't think there are stitches in the mx area from the recon?? Any ideas anyone? Please.

    Wow, I could so do without this.

  • debiann
    debiann Member Posts: 1,200
    edited January 2015

    My BS said there are internal stitches that tack the flap to the skin and they can be anywhere, not just along the scar line. I'm getting an ultra sound tomorrow to check out some lumps, but the BS tells me she is sure they are undissolved stitches. Hope she is right.

  • wintersocks
    wintersocks Member Posts: 922
    edited January 2015

    debiann,

    Oh , so there are stitches there?! I only had an ultrasound last week just not in that area.

    Good luck tomorrow with the u/s too.

    I would be grateful if you could tell me how you got on as this is the second time in 5 weeks i got lumps.

  • debiann
    debiann Member Posts: 1,200
    edited January 2015

    I'll be sure to let you know wintersocks. Right now I'm just hoping I can get to my appointment. It's VERY icy here today, so icy my DH said he saw our goats fall down, lol.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited January 2015

    Now you can market them as Fainting goats

  • Luckygirl27
    Luckygirl27 Member Posts: 16
    edited January 2015

    Hi all,

    I had my bmx with diep 4 weeks ago. Can anyone tell me what to look for as far as my abdominal incision opening up? I have one small bright pink spot.

    Also,stitches on one of the crop circles don't seem to be dissolving as quickly as the other which is just about gone.

    Any ideas, friends?

  • mary625
    mary625 Member Posts: 1,056
    edited January 2015

    A small bright pink spot might be a concern. I would call your PS office.

  • Luckygirl27
    Luckygirl27 Member Posts: 16
    edited January 2015

    hi,

    Thanks Mary. I will call tomorrow. My recovery has been going well but each time I see or feel something unexpected, I become concerned. Do you think this could be a sign of infection?

    Lucky girl


  • Sue007
    Sue007 Member Posts: 27
    edited January 2015

    Hi Everyone, I am a 15 year uni Radical Mastectomy survivor with a 15 yr. old saline implant, with a grade 3 capsulary contracture. My implant has always been hard and tight and only getting worse. Like others on this forum, I just deal with it. I have had 2 c-section, an abdominal hysterectomy and an colon surgery. I'm 56 years old and will be a 1st time grandma in August and will want to hold that baby. I am in very good health. The reason I mention this is I have a tentative DIEP flap surgery date for May with a well renown PS in Chicago. But I'm getting really nervous now. I'm 25 pounds overweight, mostly belly. I've heard of so many women having lasting issues; never being able to jog again, bulges, lasting abd. pain, feeling like the new boob is a dead flounder on their chest. I'm wondering if I should just go with the new Ideal Implant it's saline chambers, with scoring instead. I won't do the cohesive gel. I don't know what the ken doll effect is either. Has anyone been sorry they did the DIEP? Sorry, but stressing tonight about this. Any feedback will be greatly appreciated.


  • debiann
    debiann Member Posts: 1,200
    edited January 2015

    Hi Sue, I'm sure there are both positive and negative DIEP stories to be told, happily I'm a postive. I had a bmx with immediate recon in Sept. The new foobs are warm and soft. They really feel like "me". I'm also really happy with the flatter belly. I'm looking forward to stage two and nipples!

  • Sue007
    Sue007 Member Posts: 27
    edited January 2015

    I'm very happy for you and to hear of your positive experience. Thank you so much for answering me questions.

  • Luckygirl27
    Luckygirl27 Member Posts: 16
    edited January 2015

    Hi Sue,

    I had diep surgery 4 weeks ago and so far my recovery is going well. I had my surgery in Boston where they do many of these operations. I am 50 years old and in very good health with a high pain tolerance . The first couple of weeks were tough because you can't stand up straight. I did a lot of research about what to expect and what to look for the nurses to be doing post surgery. You should be kept in a warm room and the flaps checked every hour to ensure blood flow. I felt confident in my surgeons and hospital. I chose diep because I liked the idea of my own body. I know I have a long way to go as full recovery takes close to one year but I am happy with my decision.

  • Sue007
    Sue007 Member Posts: 27
    edited January 2015

    I am so happy to hear this !!!! I am also glad you are doing well and wish you great health and happiest.

  • norita19
    norita19 Member Posts: 49
    edited January 2015

    Hi Sue,

    My cancer was diagnosed in 2002 and I had lumpectomy, chemo and rads. Over time, the affected breast shrunk considerably. I didn't NEED to do anything, but I wanted symmetry. Last November I had a uni mx/ immediate recon with DIEP. I have no regrets. It is weird to have it be numb. I feel balanced now, not only in my chest but throughout my whole body. There is also numbness above and below my belly scar and around my navel but I heard that improves. I had no problems healing, I think my recuperation was easier and quicker than most. Part of that may be that I'm so far away from cancer tx. I'm 58. I could hold a baby today! You have to make this decision for yourself but I'm glad I did it. Actually it was less than 10 weeks ago. Hard to believe.

  • NTL
    NTL Member Posts: 4
    edited January 2015

    Hello,

    I was diagnosed last month and recently I was informed that I am positive with BRCA2. So I will be having a double mastectomy and immediate reconstruction. I am considering doing DIEP but I am wondering if I should do it later on. What are your thought and has anybody had a double mastectomy with immediate DIEP reconstruction? Also, I have two 1yrs old girls. Thank You

  • debiann
    debiann Member Posts: 1,200
    edited January 2015

    I thought about doing the mx first and recon later but my PS recommended doing immediate recon because he said he could achieve a better result. It turned out to be a very long surgery, 13 hours, but all turned out well. It was nice to wake up with breasts.

  • Teacher64
    Teacher64 Member Posts: 840
    edited January 2015

    Sue, I'm a grandmother. My granddaughters noticed the change after DIEP. I went Fromm hen expanders to DIEPs and have no regular. You won't be jogging for a while but your life will be normal again. I'm 10 months out from DIEP and six months from stage 2. I ride a bike, walk, and work with a trainer. DIEP recovery is over and my life is mine to enjoy every day. Ask questions, do your research, and decide what is best best form you.

  • jmb5
    jmb5 Member Posts: 532
    edited January 2015

    Sue, I am a year out from my DIEP surgery and have no regrets at all. After reading a lot of stories on the boards about problems with implants, and having my BS tell me that implants would most likely need replaced in my lifetime (I was 44 when I had the surgery.), I knew they weren't for me. My breasts feel completely real, and I love knowing that they won't need fixed/replaced down the road and I can put this behind me.

    NTL, I had BMX with immediate DIEP reconstruction. Unless you need to wait in between because of other treatment, there's really no reason to wait. You only need one surgery instead of two, and the whole process will take less time, meaning less insurance deductibles, if that's an issue for you.

  • SaltyJack
    SaltyJack Member Posts: 420
    edited January 2015

    Sue, I'm another recent DIEP patient and am sooooo very happy I did it! It sure isn't the old me but it's so much better than looking at my flat chest, which screamed "cancer" every time I looked at it. I had an MX in February and my PS said he wouldn't use implants after rads (at least in his opinion, 10-20% of implant patients have problems; after rads, it's more like 80-90%). Like JMB, I liked the idea of not having the problems with implants and possible later surgeries (even though I'm 57, I still plan on being around for a while!). I was really worried about the recovery - but was amazed at how fast I felt pretty normal. Yep, for about a week it was hard to stand straight up (and for about 2 weeks, I didn't lean my head back in the shower to wash my hair). I'm still sleeping on 2 pillows on my back most of the time (6 weeks after DIEP) but otherwise, I'm pretty much back to normal. I walk alot (have to admit, it's with my two greyhounds so it's pretty much a sniff-and-stroll) and rode my bike for about 6-7 miles yesterday with no problems.

    In contrast to the ladies who talk about the hard lump of implants, I'm thrilled to have soft "me". I don't have feeling there but do in my abdomen (some others say they don't have feeling there but I think it comes back). My only problem has been very sharp nerve pain near one hip - but it goes away if I rub it and I'm thinking/hoping it's getting less (and my PS says it will stop eventually).

    I'm scheduled for Stage 2 on February 6 - thrilled that the PS said we can go ahead so quickly. He's just going to do some fat grafting - not sure if I'm going to want other surgeries but will probably go ahead with a nipple and tattoo.

    Good luck to you in your decision-making - and to you, too, wintersocks, lucky and debi with your lumps and ultrasounds and follow-up.

    Bev


  • Sue007
    Sue007 Member Posts: 27
    edited January 2015

    Hi, Thank you so so much for your detailed posting, it's making be feel better already. I'm walking a lot and will trim down some before surgery. I need these positive stories. I am very happy your are doing well and wish great health and happiness.

  • Tan72
    Tan72 Member Posts: 52
    edited January 2015

    I am 6 days post phase 2, nipple construction left, nipple/areola re-graphting right, breast lift, fat graphting, liposuction. Has anyone ever felt your foobs looked worse after phase 2? I am worried how the new areola/nipples look. Left nipple is huge and odd shaped, right re-graphed looks nothing like it did going into phase 2 (looked like me with crop circle around it) now it is a flat small circle (ps says nipple will come back out over time) clay like in color, ps also did tattoo during phase2 which I haven't heard anyone else have done. Breast themselves look ok, except the right (non cancer) breast seems lopsided, bulk on lower outside compared to left, ps said this should even out over time. OriginallyGlad I did the DIEP, now questioning the whole thing. Is this just phase 2 normal reaction or should I be concerned? Feeling down. Also have had a headache/fuzzy feeling for a couple days. Taking Tylenol during the day and pain pill at night. 😢

  • mary625
    mary625 Member Posts: 1,056
    edited January 2015

    Lucky girl--when it happened to me, it wasn't an infection. I think that I rubbed off some of the scab and/or skin glue when I was pulling pants up and down rather than wearing my compression girdle and peeing through the little hole. I was given instructions to do wet-to-dry dressing until I could get into a wound clinic. They gave me a cream that helped it heal very quickly. I can't remember the exact name but it is a silver-based cream. Everything got back on track quickly.

  • Teacher64
    Teacher64 Member Posts: 840
    edited January 2015

    Tan- it took weeks for breasts to look good after stage 2. The nipples didn't look "right" for about a month.

  • goldie4040
    goldie4040 Member Posts: 2,280
    edited January 2015


    JMB, I have seen you state you love your nipples a few time, and I am so glad for you.  Mine do not thrill me.  He made the crop circle a bit smaller, and made the nipple in the middle of it.  Not happy!!!  Not what I expected?  How did they do yours?

     

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