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  • wintersocks
    wintersocks Member Posts: 922
    edited January 2015

    All the best Morwenna and Annieb,

    You will do good! 3 weeks post Diep and I am doing fine. Just remember to rest, rest and rest some more!

  • caligirl3
    caligirl3 Member Posts: 86
    edited January 2015

    Just wanted to pop in and wish you ladies the best in your upcoming surgeries. I will keep you in my prayers. I'm just over 3 weeks post DEIP. It is not nearly as bad as our minds and nerves have us think prior to surgery. You will do great. Just remember to take something to prevent the constipation, stay on top of it. Make sure to rest and let yourselves be pampered!

    YOU GOT THIS!

  • IndigoMont11
    IndigoMont11 Member Posts: 1,095
    edited January 2015

    Rangerwife74, I live in the Denver metro area, too, and was wondering who your surgeon is. I am just now getting consults, planning for next year. This year isn't a great one for me to be out of commission for so much time, and - I don't think I can do anything other than lat flaps or TRAM with my current insurance, so I will have to wait until next year to switch anyway.

  • jmb5
    jmb5 Member Posts: 532
    edited January 2015

    Good luck ladies!

    Morwenna, I say I had a DIEP, because that was the plan, but I technically think I had a muscle sparing free TRAM. Looks like that's what you're having based on the surgery list info. My PS had to take a little bit of muscle because apparently the veins were very small in that area. I never asked much about it. Always wondered if it made my recovery any different to lose a little muscle.

  • goodrhue
    goodrhue Member Posts: 60
    edited January 2015

    Morwenna and annieb:  hope all went well and you are resting as comfortably as possible! 

    My surgery is a week from today (Jan 15th) and I'm also getting a big nervous.  And, looking forward to getting this DONE!

    re: prep - a friend who has done this told me to get a Backmax Contour pillow. I was able to find one in pristine condition on craigslist from someone else who just had surgery!  I'm going to Goodwill this weekend to buy some big loose button shirts and some loose pants that are ok to get stained.

    questions for you ladies that have already been through this:

    1.  did you start taking the stool softener before surgery, or just after?  How much?  (they gave me Miralax) If before, when did you start?  I've never taken this (except the strong stuff before a colonoscopy - don't want THAT affect!) and haven't had any surgery this serious or affecting my abdomen before.

    2. with unialteral DIEP, can you still use your other arm more normally?  or is the abdomen what governs movement?

    3.  any other advice about clothing to have on hand for right after surgery? 

  • WalleGator
    WalleGator Member Posts: 102
    edited January 2015

    The good news is my surgery got moved up to Feb. 18th so no more Friday the 13th! Phew...! I am a bit nervous, but have done tons of research so I'm thinking I know what to expect.

    Wintersocks and caligirl - LOVE hearing that you're both doing well a couple weeks after surgery. How was the first week? How long did you stay in the hospital? Anything else we need to know while it's still fresh?

  • jmb5
    jmb5 Member Posts: 532
    edited January 2015

    goorhue, I used both Miralax and Colace, but not until after I was home from the hospital. Surprisingly, none of the doctors/nurses ever said anything to me about this, and so I took the advice of the women here on the message boards. There were a few poop experts on the 2014 board, so I listened to them. Lol! I took the Miralax and Colace as prescribed on the bottle and it worked great. I never had any issues. I used it again for my stage 2 surgery. It was the pain meds that made me a little constipated.

    Also, I had a bilateral with immediate DIEP, so I'm not sure about the uni, but I would think you would be able to use your other arm better, and hopefully put weight on it when you're getting in and out of bed.

    Wallegator, that's good news after the whole black cat fiasco. HappyHave you planned what to pack for the hospital? Wasn't sure if you guys had that discussion on this board yet or not.

  • SheriCola
    SheriCola Member Posts: 21
    edited January 2015

    I couldn't schedule my surgery today because the scheduler left before my appointment ended!! I guess I will be calling first thing in the morning

  • caligirl3
    caligirl3 Member Posts: 86
    edited January 2015

    Hello WalleGator and goodrhue,

    I wish you all the best on your upcoming surgery. You will do great. I had my surgery on a wed. and was home on Sat. The first week was not too bad, the hardest part was managing the drains (I had 5). Pain was managed well with pain meds. More discomfort than pain really. I experienced lower back pain due to walking hunched over. I'm happy to say that has resolved now that I'm 3.5 weeks out.

    For the drains I found the easiest thing to do was to pin them to my abdominal binder. I wore a tank top (I got some from target and old navy pretty cheap) under the binder. I wore a lanyard which I pinned the drains to when I showered. I bought a shower chair from bed bath and beyond which made bathing SO much easier. Make sure you follow the suggestions regarding constipation form the other ladies. I suffered really bad constipation which was the worst part of this entire experience. I lived in button front pajamas (COSTCO and target). When I left the house I wore yoga pants and sweat pants( the nicer material ones from MACY's) with button front shirts. I never had any issues with staining. I sleep in a power recliner which made it so much easier to get up from. Although I have to say I miss sleeping in a bed ( I'm a stomach and side sleeper). It has taken me a while but am used to sleeping on my back slightly elevated now. The best thing I would suggest is a spray devise I had attached to the toilet that allows you to rinse (sort of like a bidet). It really made cleaning after using the bathroom so much easier. You can get one from Home Depot or Lowes. Make sure you have help, especially the first week. If I think of anything else or you have a particular question, I will post. The nice thing about all this you really won't remember much about the hospital stay! LOL. Don't spend your time stressing before surgery. It really is so worth it and not as bad as you have yourself fear. Even this early in the process, I am happy with the results. Take time to pamper yourself. Sorry I didn't list the suggestions in a more organized manner but I hope it helps.

  • study411
    study411 Member Posts: 17
    edited January 2015

    Hey, MichelleLg  and goodrhue, good luck on the upcoming surgery

     


  • spookisgirl
    spookisgirl Member Posts: 96
    edited January 2015

    Hi,

    I will have a double mastectomy and DIEP reconstruction sometime in 2015, after I finish chemo, which I don't know when I will even start yet (but hope to know on Monday when I finally see the Oncologist). I had a really hard time healing from my partial mastectomy (30+ days and my incision still isn't healed), so I am very worried about recovering from this surgery.

    I am also a competitive ballroom and latin dancer, so I am a little worried about how this might affect that. I am basically going to write off 2015 for competing, except for one competition next week while I wait to hear about chemo. As soon as I get my surgery date I will let you know.

    I already feel a little better seeing the information from ladies already posting on here. I hope chemo goes well and that the surgery will be scheduled sooner rather than later.

    I am also a little concerned about the movement limitations in the recovery. I am single and while I have a roommate, we aren't really close. However, I am in the military so they seem to provide good support. I know they have been great so far.

    I am worried about gaining weight during chemo. My PS told me it would be good to get closer to my goal weight before the surgery (I have lost 75lbs in the last 2 years), but....

    Thanks so much for sharing ladies!!

  • Moderators
    Moderators Member Posts: 25,912
    edited January 2015

    Best of luck to the January sisters undergoing surgery, MichelleLg, goodrhue, LAstar, Study411

    We'll be thinking of you, let us know how you get on.

    Annieb4 and Morwenna, hope it all went okay for you

  • nihahi
    nihahi Member Posts: 3,841
    edited January 2015

    Morwenna.....congrats, girl.....you're now on the "other side" and officially a flapper! Gentle healing to you......and the rest of this year's group.

  • Violetphisch
    Violetphisch Member Posts: 15
    edited January 2015

    This thread and the 2014 one are SO HELPFUL!

    Going in for BX mastectomy with immediate DIEP recon and I am SUPER nervous. I have folks coming in shifts for the first 3 1/2-4 weeks to help us out. And hired a housekeeping company to come in for the next few months.

    I have great doctors at HUP, and I have done everything I can (except getting a chair for the shower...going to get that today), and didn't lose any weight (my PS told me to enjoy the holidays, and keep the weight on,....uummmm...OK)

    So much good advice and SO glad to hear from women that they would do it again. Shew!

    I hope evveryone's surgery went well last week...

  • goodrhue
    goodrhue Member Posts: 60
    edited January 2015

    spookisgirl - I lost weight during chemo; I just didn't have much appetite and had to be conscious about eating anything that tasted good.  I would feel full really fast so snacked alot.  Weight is the last thing to worry about right now - take care of yourself and do what you need to help your body through this ordeal.  Be glad you aren't having radiation and can have the mast and DIEP together.  You'll be done before you know it.  I'm a yogi and yoga teacher and honestly I probably would never have gotten back my range of motion if I hadn't done a 2-year teacher training.  I am stronger, more flexible and healthier now than I was before BC.  Ask your surgeion about physical therapy - but be prepared to go out looking for someone to guide you safely in getting back to "normal" since my experience was that the surgeion was not very engaged in that aspect of recovery.  Best wishes!

  • Morwenna
    Morwenna Member Posts: 1,063
    edited January 2015

    Hi everyone,

    just touching base: I came home yesterday, and have my dh playing nursie this week.

    I had one drain out before I left yesterday, which proceeded to leak like crazy, so they put an occlusive dressing on it which I haven't yet looked at! I have 3 drains still in, and am not allowed to shower til they are gone; fingers crossed for Wednesday, two are very much slowing down!

    Worst pain is due to back spasms, and I find it hard to sit or stand unsupported. Dh washed my hair with me slumped over the kitchen sink - Bliss! I'm walking between my recliner and bathroom, unassisted, and somewhat breathless, which I think is due to the backpain. I'm resting/sleeping in my rented powered recliner chair.

    Flaps look "healthy" and feel warm, and I'm reserving judgement on shape, size and appearance until the post op swelling has subsided. Can anybody tell me about how long it is until WYSIWYG???

    Looking forward to more comfortable days, and taking heart that people say this is all worth it!

    Good luck to all those following: I was a little afraid to post before, because this really is harder than I hoped it would be, and I was worrying about scaring people!! I'm sure I'll probably look back and say, yes it was a tough few days/weeks, but well worth the effort. I'm already happy that I had the right mastectomy anyway!

    Onward and upward, warrior sisters!!


  • wintersocks
    wintersocks Member Posts: 922
    edited January 2015

    Morwenna,

    Welcome home! It is tough at first, but it does rapidly improve, I promise! (4 weeks post diep for me now.)

    Glad your hubby is chief hair washer!.


    Ws XX

  • LAstar
    LAstar Member Posts: 1,574
    edited January 2015

    Welcome home, Morweena! Did they give you an incentive spirometer for breathing exercises? Maybe that is contributing to the shortness of breath? It can take a while to get the anesthesia out, but it really helps to clear the lungs and head.

    Those first days are not fun. I remember that someone from another reconstruction thread came by to see me in the hospital before her surgery. Unfortunately, she stopped by while the nurses were trying to get me out of bed for the first time after my 11-hour BMX and SGAP recon. I was in tears and I know I scared that poor woman to death. It's so good to be able to get up and move around a bit. The recovery can be a little slow but it's steady. Just continue to rest and pretend you are on vacation.

    Swelling, softening, and settling can go on for months and months.

    Rest well and enjoy having this in the rear-view mirror!

  • LiLi-RI
    LiLi-RI Member Posts: 291
    edited January 2015

    So nice to hear Morweena that you are home and recovering. LAstar is right-it takes time and kindness to your body and soul. We are all here for you. Sending gentle hugs! Lis

  • Morwenna
    Morwenna Member Posts: 1,063
    edited January 2015

    Thanks ladies,

    I did have an incentive spirometer in the hospital, but my resting O2 sats were good by the time I left, or I could easily raise them with a few deep breaths. I am pretty sure I am bracing and breath-holding when ambulating! Stop that right now!!


    Wondering how Annieb4 is getting on!!

  • study411
    study411 Member Posts: 17
    edited January 2015


    Hi, my surgery is in 2 weeks, I don't have a recliner and can't afford one, will lots of pillows work??

    I am just worry how to get in and out of bed without help !! Thanks for any suggestion !!! 

     

  • LAstar
    LAstar Member Posts: 1,574
    edited January 2015

    I'm planning on using a lot of pillow post-DIEP. I did this for my SGAP recon and it worked just fine. Although the Contour Backmax Support System looks amazing. Someone scored one on Craig's List -- so lucky!

  • Morwenna
    Morwenna Member Posts: 1,063
    edited January 2015

    All drains removed today, Hooray!!

    Back pain is my big issue. Everything else is doing fine.

    Regarding recliners, You can sleep in bed propped up with pillows and more pillows under your knees. Someone is lending me one of those V shaped nursing pillows today, so I will give feedback on that later.....

    My tailbone is feeling the pressure though, and I was longing to lie flatter on my back, so the night before last I DID sleep in bed, with about three pillows for my head/shoulders, and another couple under my knees. I got fairly comfortable, but had difficulty with thermo regulation. But the main issue for me, being bilateral, is I cannot roll to either side, nor use my tummy muscles to sit up, nor am I supposed to use my arms "too much"! So I was pretty helpless, and couldn't get up without a deal of assistance from dh!

  • mefromcc
    mefromcc Member Posts: 188
    edited January 2015


    Study411,

    Lots of pillows will work. See my earlier post on this thread on how I set mine up after my BMX.

    I'm currently on vacation in the Arizona desert 🌵 RV camping. We are meeting many other people we know for a Ham Fest next week. That is why my DIEP isn't scheduled until 29 days from now.

  • Morwenna
    Morwenna Member Posts: 1,063
    edited January 2015

    Referring to mefromcc's earlier post, I looked at puppy piddle pads in a local pet store, and found various sizes, the largest of which was nearly $60.

    Hmmm, I thought, and went to check out Walmart. There they had 36 inch "soaker pads" for incontinence, for use in beds or chairs, costing about 14$Ca. I ended up buying a waterproof padded mattress cover (twin bed size), for about $Ca 25, and this goes right over the recliner. I know, it a rental, and I have to pay a cleaning fee anyway ...

    So far, although I have had spotting on my clothes, I haven't leaked prodigiously anywhere. :)

  • caligirl3
    caligirl3 Member Posts: 86
    edited January 2015

    Morwenna,

    The back pain does resolve. It was a problem for me as well. Couldn't walk because it was so bad. Just wanted to let you know it gets much better. I am almost 5 weeks post op. Don't push yourself. I found hot compress(heating pad helped) as did a patch called salon pas. Now that I am standing straighter I'm not having the pain as much.

  • Violetphisch
    Violetphisch Member Posts: 15
    edited January 2015

    I am going in tomorrow ( biting nails, pacing and vacuuming the whole house). So Impressed you get the drains out today!

    THAT IS SO GREAT!!!!! Fingers crossed that Mine are out sooner rather than later...wish me luck!

  • Morwenna
    Morwenna Member Posts: 1,063
    edited January 2015

    That's funny Violet,

    I am not very houseproud, but I too went into a cleaning frenzy just before I went in! You will do just fine!

    I had my best night yet. I slept in my own bed and the V pillow propped me up and gave great support under my swollen armpits! This morning I got myself out of bed around 7.15, went to the bathroom and got back in bed without my dh even waking up! AND I had had no drugs since 10.00 last night!!!

    The next big adventure, planned for today, is my first shower!!

    Baby steps! :)

  • Morwenna
    Morwenna Member Posts: 1,063
    edited January 2015

    Caligirl,

    Thanks for your comments about the back pain. It really helps to know that things are "normal" and will improve.

    The PS yesterday seemed to be surprised when I told him about how bad it was, which wasn't very reassuring, but he did agree that I could get something stronger than Plain Tylenol!

    The funny thing is that I feel much more relaxed about it now, and a physio friend of mine gave me a totally reasonable explanation for a possible source of pain, being that the myofascial layers have all been pulled wonky by the surgery, so all my postural muscles are firing off at once in response to signals they cannot yet interpret when I am up and about. Hence the spasm!

    She said just persist with regular short periods of mobility as able, and rest between, and the brain will work out what's going on, given time!

    Feeling positive today :)

  • Violetphisch
    Violetphisch Member Posts: 15
    edited January 2015

    Oh Morewenna-

    SO GLAD for you ... Let me know how the shower goes. I got one of those stools, just in case and had my hair stylist cut and thin my hair last week... I have SUPER thick hair, but this way I can have DH or BFF wash it in the kitchen sink and it won't take forever.

    My cousin suggested a wedge pillow for the bed, so I have that and a pillow for under my knees to take pressure off my back. Just worried about getting up to go to the bathroom or walk around a little....

    My husband works from home and I have my best friend coming in from MN for a week and then my mother the following week, so I am hoping I will be OK in the help dept.

    I keep worryng that I have forgotten something....

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