Starting Chemo January 2015
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dimccleland,
sorry to hear that you liver is being an issue. I hope the doctors get things worked out soon for you. Just remember, we are all here for you to vent to. I chose to have a bi-lateral mastectomy with reconstruction.
Dstar, those percentages are significant. I choose chemo also. Keep on keeping on.
Pmr53-Patty, I am glad you spoke up about that nurse. I pray you don't have any illnesses from her negligence. By her not being sterile she can potentially cause you to get sick because your immune system will be down. It is very important that the people providing your care actually care about their job.
As for me, I am still fighting with the financial officer about the money. They still are demanding $900.00 from me tomorrow when I come in for my first treatment. And that is the lowest I have been able to talk her down. Then she has the nerve to ask me if I am going to have the $900.00 tomorrow. I said do I really have a choice? I already delayed my treatment one week because I didn't have the $1800.00 plus the $763.00 for the Neulasta shot. We are waiting for approval for for financial assistance through patient advocate foundation. But she is not willing to wait for approval. This is what is irritating me. She said she would refund my $900.00 once the approval comes in and they run all the bills through the insurance company. That wwill be sometime in April before the insurance company finishes all their processing. I told her I am taking the $900.00 from my rent fund so she needs to reimburse me as soon an the approval comes in so I will have money to pay my February rent.
Then I went off on her about their tactics and how much stress she is putting on me and how unethical the company is being by waiting till the day before someone's treatment to lay that financial bombshell on someone. I told her my oncologist is going to get an ear full from me about all this.
Sorry. Still a little sore at the situation. Keep on keeping on right ladies?
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Hi January Ladies. I was looking for some support with chemotherapy and so happy I found this board, this is my first post. I had surgery Jan 2 and I am faced with choosing between two chemo options: 1) Adriamycin, Cytoxan follwed by Taxol or 2) Taxotere and Cytoxan. Their dilemma is that this is my second triple negative breast cancer but now in my opposite breast. The diagnosis was 18 years apart and they really don't feel the cancers are related. One was pre-menopausal, the other post-meopausal. I only received radiation treatment for the first cancer in 1996. My onocology appt. was yesterday and I've cried all day today. I don't really know which way to decide, neither sounds very pleasant and I'm scared. I have to provide an answer tomorrow as my chemo is starting Jan 22 and they have to know which drugs to order. I know the side effects and hair loss (scary) is temporary but I'm afraid of the unknown journey I'm about to embark on. The post from Rosiesride touched me as she has weathered the storm and is stronger for it. I pray for strength for each of us as we march into the storm of chemotherapy.
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Hi LynnM, I had the AC followed by Taxol. I am triple negative, and just had a mastectomy 12/15 2014. I am now seeing the RO to start rads, then back to chemo. What a ride it's been. While everyone is different and reacts differently, I had a rather rough journey on that chemo cocktail. I cannot have Adriamycin ever again because I was one of the lucky 10% to get the uncommon side effect of heart damage. Now I have heart meds for life and 2 cardiologist. I did have a great response with 60% shrinkage, but then I started the Taxol and it regrew my tumor by over 40%. Again that is uncommon with Taxol, but it happened to me. I see that a lot of the ladies here have had the same cocktail with good results. So hard to say what to do. I cannot have Taxol again, or any taxane chemo. So being triple negative, my choices are limited. But you have done very well, so you can't really look at one case. I'm doing very well now, but now rads. Another unknown, and I hate surprises! And after rads, I will have to choose another cocktail, and my hair is 1/2" long. It started to grow back after the second Taxol.
I think you are right, we need to pray, grab a lifeboat, and ride out the storm. And we will find a beach and blue skies at the end of this storm.
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Here is that Crock Pot Mac n Cheese recipe. It turned out good. Don't overcook past 2.5 hours on low. I used 2 eggs not three. Just what tasted okay for a queasy chemo kinda day.
Patty
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Thank you so much Beachbum for your reply. I did very well with radiation in 1996. Progressively I got more tired starting about half way through, but I continued to work full time and take care of my duaghter who was only 18 months at the time. I also had skin irratation, very much like a bad sunburn, where the radiated skin meets the unradiated skin. I applied topical benadryl after treatments and managed through it ok. I kept that spray handy and used it multiple times a day, they may have better options today. I am happy to hear your hair started growing back while still taking Taxol. That little 18 month old baby I mentioned is now 20 and is getting married this December!!! I think I will follow the advice of many of the ladies who have posted and cut my hair before I lose it, something I can control!
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LynnM
Welcome and hugs. I am triple positive so I don't about those chemo regimens you mentioned. It sounds like they are in a hurry to get an answer. Is there anyway you can get a second opinion? I know the shock and distress of this catastrophic news you speak off. I had similar situation. 2006 left breast. 2014 right Breast. Completely different kinds of cancer. Chemo new for this one. Try to make the best informed decision you can and then research those chemos. It's scary but will save our live.. It's just a bump in the road.
Patty
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beachbum, I love your optimism.
Hello lynnM, nice to meet you. I agree that you should try to get a second opinion if you can only because of the previous complications you have had. I understand the urgency the doctors are pushing but this is serious and you need to know as much as you can to make an informed decision. After all, it is you who is going through this, not your doctor. I know they are supposed to have your best interest but at the end of the day the doctor is still just a human like the rest of us. And they do make mistakes too. Don't let them rush you too much. And discuss financial responsibility with them before they trap you into a chemo regimen.
Patty, thank you so much for the Mac and cheese recipe.
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Dimccleland - Wishing you the best with your CT scan results. There seems to be a higher incidence of enlarged livers for people with AS but I hope your rheumatologist can get this under control for you as quickly as possible.
Cheryl, I think I am going to get my hair shaved this week as well. It is day 16 post chemo# 1 and I have a very tingly head as well as a dull headache. I can see the hair starting to go as I run my fingers through it also. It is driving me a little crazy tonight!
LynnM, welcome as well. I don't have a specific comment about the right chemo regime but I do think that your oncologist should give you the information you need to make the best informed decision and one that you believe in without pressuring you to make a quick decision. Glad you found our thread and hope we can support each other as we go through this. Understanding and knowledge gives us power too.
Mommacat4 - Good luck with your chemo tomorrow and I am glad you got the opportunity to tell that financial officer how you felt. It is very frustrating having this struggle on top on BC but it is good to voice your feelings too. I think it helps give us a sense of some control, right?
I didn't get much exercise done today but was at the hospital to participate in a study here called Amber Study that is looking at how behaviours (lifestyle, physical activity) relate to breast cancer recovery and survival.. I had to do a bunch of leg and arm presses. I felt good doing them but to be honest it completely wiped me out afterwards. LOL My legs felt like jello for the rest of the day and I needed a nap late this afternoon. Tomorrow I'm back at the hospital for my port. Hydranne, I think I remember you are getting yours tomorrow too. Wishing us both a very easy time of it!
Fyre999 - how are doing after your chemo today?
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Good Luck today, Mommacat! Hi to everyone! Hey Patty, would you mind listing your chemo regime in your signature line? I am always a little confused about your treatment and want to understand. Wendy, when is it time for your second treatment?
Wishing everyone the best for today!
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Thanks Dana - my second treatment is scheduled for Jan 19th. I go for my blood work on Friday but I'm feeling pretty good so I think there should be no issues for chemo on Monday.
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Good luck today mommacat4.
Since I'm being treated a medical university I actually have a team of MO's to draw information from hence their split decision on treatment regimens. I was actually relieved to have the start date scheduled so I can get going, I was pretty anxious about not having a plan. I've decided to have the 4 AC followed by Taxol. I still have a choice about 4 every 14 days or 12 every 7 days on the Taxol. If I can tolerate it, I would like to finish sooner rather than later. Thanks for all of encouragement and positive energy.
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Hello everyone...I am thinking I will be starting chemo this month. I guess I will find out tomorrow when I meet my oncologist for the first time. I am scheduled to have my port and SNB done this Friday. Everything is moving so fast...it's hard to think that just two weeks ago I thought I was perfectly healthy! I am sooooo grateful to have found this site. I know it helped when I went to discuss my pathology report with the BS to have some idea what she was talking about. And I can't even begin to say how much it has helped emotionally! I have yet to tell anyone...except immediate family, I just can't bring myself to say this out loud! --Lorie
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I'm starting chemo on Jan 29th and I am terrified. I met with my med onc yesterday, and he confirmed that the best regimen for me would be the dreaded AC (4 rounds; once every two weeks) followed by 12 rounds of weekly Taxol. I have decided to cold cap, but because of this regimen I'm worried it won't work at all.
I go through phases of wanting to research everything and wanting to know nothing at all. It's extremely overwhelming: today I got a call at work from the hospital asking to verify some information, and when I was asked if I had a living will in place, I lost it. I just turned 28 years old. This. is. crazy.
I'm hoping this forum will become an outlet of sorts and help me feel better about everything knowing that I'm not alone.
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Hi Loriekg and Kjybaby- You are not alone. Welcome.
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Hello loriekg and kjybaby, I also recently joined this thread and found lots of valuable info. Sorry you're here but glad to meet you. -
Hi Kjybaby, you are not alone! I have very similar diagnosis to you (tumor just a little bit smaller and PR+). I know how hard it is being diagnosed at a young age (I am 30). My advice is to try to stay as positive as possible, it will go along way in your recovery .
I start chemo tomorrow (TCx4 and tamoxifen for 10 years). I wish you the best and all the other ladies on this thread.
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Thanks, TeriMP. Same to you!!
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Hi everyone! Just wanted to tell you all how much reading your posts has helped me. I have been feeling down today as I have had a return of pain post mastectomy and this got me into a funk. I am pretty sure the pain is due to nerves waking back up. I have intermittent stabbing pains down my inner upper arm from the axillary dissection incision, phantom pain where the breast used to be and some incisional pain. Just taking ibuprofen and Tylenol. Don't like narcs.
This pain has gotten me into a funk about fear of chemo. I don't need to describe this- you all understand what I mean. I started my period and am mourning that this might be my last one (imagine that!) (I have oopherectomy scheduled post chemo and I hear chemo puts you in a "chemical menopause.") I got some bills from the hospital from surgery, etc. and I need to call to get on a payment plan...finally, I am scared about needing to lean on people in my life more as I move through this process. I am an RN and I am used to caring for others not the other way around.
Anyway, your posts inspire me and motivate me to break out of this negativity today. Up until this point I really have been very positive, hopeful and just grateful for my life, my family, my friends, my job, etc. but I got a little derailed today, I guess.
Tennisfan, I started exercising again because of you. Walked for an hour Monday and Tuesday I confess I haven't yet today due to pain, but I have a stationary bike so will ride for at least 20 min before this day is over.
Those of you who are remaining at work make me feel this may be possible for me as well. My coworkers are my extended family so being back at work will be therapeutic for me. Like several of you, I will do 4 AC treatments biweekly followed by 12 taxol treatments over 12 weeks. Then oopherectomy and 6 full time weeks of radiation
Do youthink it is unrealistic for me to think I can work? I should mention I only work two 12 hour night shifts a week as a charge nurse on a psychiatric unit. My job is pretty mellow with a lot of administrative/seated work.
Thank you so much for listening. It really helps to have you all in my life now.
With love,
Kristin
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Hey Kristin,
I think from time to time it is ok to have a funk day. I think most if not everyone gets them. Sounds like you are really already picking yourself up fromit today. I think we all have to learn to lean on others a bit. Probably should have done it more before BC.
Not sure if this will be helpful, but my nurse navigator once told me that nerves will behave like unsupervised kids in a classroom. They start to misbehave! When they do calm them down by gently touching/massaging them. I still get phantom pain and do find this helps me
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Hi Kjybaby, You are not alone here! And everyone here, no matter what age, we all have a lot of living left to do. It's okay to be terrified, I was but knowledge is power, and power is strength to get all of us through this. Here you can vent and rant, but I found a wealth of information. I learned so much from real life warriors, in real time. It's great to know what is coming at you, but we can tell you what really worked for us. I had the same chemo and I would be happy to share my list of things that helped me complete all 8 rounds of my chemo. The AC worked fantastic for me, and the tumor shrunk 60%!! The side effects are very manageable, as long as you manage them. No one here wants to go to chemo, or deal with this, but we do and rise above the storm to face another day.
Do you have a support system that would be available to help you? I know it's overwhelming, and your mind goes to that dark place. Been there and done that, I try not to go there! Deal with what you know as a fact, and beware of Doctor Google, too much bad info there. Please ask questions, we are here for you!
You CAN do this, and we are going to help you!
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thecolorpurple, I worked 42 hours a week all the way through chemo. Very doable, but not a lot of fun for sure. But stay positive, and try to push through it if you can. I had the same chemo, just give your body what it wants when it wants it. Drink a lot of water to stay hydrated and flush the chemo. I always took a ice pack to chemo to put on my neck for the push, and I never had a headache. I am not a fan of any meds for any reason, but I took every med I had for the side effects. Your body needs to heal, not be at war with itself. And you need rest, and good nutrition.
We all have a funk day, I usually have mine with coffee and Baileys!
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A large amount of my hair came out in the shower today. I knew my hair was going to go but this was just a little too fast for me. I just sobbed. But, I've decided to be positive about it. I'm going to take this as a sign that the chemo drugs are working and my body is responding.
Cheryl
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Patty- thanks for sharing the recipe. I'm going to try it next week for my infusion. I made oven roasted chickpeas yesterday and they were delicious! They were a great snack. I just rinsed a can of chickpeas, sprayed them with some oil and salt and pepper, and roasted them at 375 until they were dry and kind of crunchy. I think other spices would work well but I was feeling kind of nauseas and wanted to keep them simple. I'm definitely going to make them again.
Kjybaby- I'm glad you found us but I'm sorry you have to go through this. I have definitely been scared throuhout this. It is scary! I agree with beachbum that having information helped me be less scared. Ask as much as you can and please post on here as much as you want. We are all in this together. I know I draw a lot of strength from our group.
Cheryl
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Bonsoir! Tonight I will keep it short because I am scared to be coming down with a cold (my aunt and my mom got a really nasty one, they came to visit before they got it and now in turn my throat is feeling itchy :0((((. I am so ready for Friday so I don't want to postpone til next week! So I will hop in bed early
Only one thing to say: thecolourpurple aka Kristin - you made my day!
Have a restful night, all of you and an evenly nicer day tomorrow, sans SEs if at all possible!
Marjorie aka Tennisfan
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Wendy thanks so much for your encouragement and advice. It means a lot! Kristin
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Wow it feels like forever since I was last here since I get to spend so little time on my computer. Updating through my phone is for the birds! My honey and I were trying to decide, yesterday, whether you all count your chemo day as "day 1" or "day 0" as far as logging the side effects and such. I started in the morning so I was counting that as day one but I was just curious. So far the worse symptoms I have experienced was with Emend. Holy moly! First I felt like my breathing tubes constricted that the width of a coffee straw for about 3 minutes. I was just sitting there trying not to panic. The nurse was only one patient over and either didn't notice or wasn't alarmed so I just hung tight and it went away on it's own. Then right after it finished I started cramping like I was on my period but it was like 10 times worse than any menstrual cramps I've ever felt in my life and went into my thigh bones and muscles. That was horrible! It lasted about 20 minutes. The last thing before the chemo was Ativan but maybe that was extra. I'm not sure but suddenly I was happy and stoned and fell right to sleep. Yay for that! I guess I freaked out my honey because I was babbling a bunch of nonsense to another patient but I guess he was the same way so it didn't bother either of us. LOL! As long as the "stupids" don't last I'm good with it. I have had the red cheeks too and can feel heat emanating from my face and core but my hands and feet will be cold, which is odd. The nausea and headaches have barely been there at all. I've been scared of the side effects of dexamethasone but agreed to try them. So far no ravenous appetite but I have been a tad more prickly. I got mad because the kitchen was dirty and we were both just laying around doing nothing so even though my honey agreed to do it, it wasn't getting done so I just got up and a did it myself. Well I only got irritated when I asked if the dishes were clean or dirty and the response was "I can't hear you. I'm trying to watch this." A tiny mushroom cloud may have erupted over my head. LOL! We did have a nice chat after that. I think there may have been some denial in there after hearing "I'm just trying to relax before the storm really hits"... Um, the storm has arrived. It's time to step up. I hope this wasn't too awfully off topic for here. Right now I'm in "pay attention to which 3 day stretch is the best to schedule chemo around so I can continue working" mode. I'm also up in the middle of the night because my onc wants me to mimic what I'd normally do during a work schedule to see how I do. It's so hard fipping back and forth between days and nights. Argh.
One final thing... A friend of mine made this for me and I love it so much I wanted to share.
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Hi thecolorpurple. I'm returning to work today after having my 2nd round of AC. Staying at home thinking about all of this was getting me very down. My coworkers and boss know my situation and are very supportive. Just listen to your body.
loriekg and kjybaby welcome and I echo the other ladies you are not alone.
Tennis fan - I'm on the same Herceptin trial as you. My her2nue is neg but at +2.
My hair is finally jumping ship. I think I've accepted it, like I have a choice. ..lol. My wonderful brother is taking me to get a wig today. And his partner is shaving the remaining strands.
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Frye, thank you for sharing your infusion experience. This is the place to tell the good and the bad. Sorry you had a rough start, but you are such a warrior! The photo of you is awesome. I hope it is poster size and you hang it proudly.
You and DH are like the Cramdens. Loved your interactions...soooo real.
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Good morning cherylfg, I must say at this point, I am so glad that I do not have to worry about my hair. I wash my "hair" once a week and go. So while depressing on one hand, a time saver on the other. I'm just thankful that I have the time to do what I want to do, instead of fussing about my hair. And my hair started to grow back after the second Taxol. The time will fly by, and you will be fuzzy again before you know it! AC is tough, save your energy to fight back!!
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