Use your State Insurance Commissioner's office!

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vlnrph
vlnrph Member Posts: 1,632

I was having problems getting payment for services initially denied then approved upon appeal as well as pre-authorized durable medical equipment until I filed two on line complaints with the government. Amazingly, checks were issued to both providers within weeks.

If months of delay are frustrating you and the company refuses to investigate your grievances through normal channels, don't give up. They can be penalized for lack of good faith operation. You have a right to receive contracted benefits.

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  • vlnrph
    vlnrph Member Posts: 1,632
    edited August 2014

    An update now that a few more months have gone by: I thought the story would be over once my providers got paid (although one check was for only half the amount originally billed). 

    Turns out the investigator at our state capital in Madison was not satisfied with the insurance company response and informed them that they needed to answer several questions about their claims processing procedures and calculation of interest payments. Just a couple weeks ago, further funds were issued including the remainder of that incomplete reimbursement. The file is still open so I'm wondering if this major national insurer will also be fined for their delay and initial refusals. Again, don't give up when your benefits are denied. You can win this fight but may need government help!

  • vlnrph
    vlnrph Member Posts: 1,632
    edited January 2015

    Another installment (and perhaps the conclusion of this particular saga): Wisconsin required additional interest payments because of the long time it took for these claims to be properly addressed! Not all states are so consumer oriented but if you have a good one, the insurance commissioner's office can do a lot of work on your behalf. Take notes & keep records...

  • proudtospin
    proudtospin Member Posts: 5,972
    edited January 2015

    thanks for the info and so glad for you that they are helping you

  • DoggieBytes
    DoggieBytes Member Posts: 100
    edited January 2015

    Good info. Glad it worked out in your favor!

  • oceangirl654
    oceangirl654 Member Posts: 217
    edited February 2015

    Thanks so much. I'm going to try this!!

  • Jazzygirl
    Jazzygirl Member Posts: 12,533
    edited February 2015

    Vinrph- thanks for this post. I have had some issues in the past with getting things paid through my insurance (most genetics testing, two finally got paid through multiple appeals and one denied because the BS office did NOT get the prior approvals for an out of network lab).

    I may have a new battle on my hands with some audits that were being done on my initial bc treatment claims in 2012-2013. I got two letters from the insurance company last fall about them auditing two of my claims from my surgery and now they have come back and said they are not paying the imaging center claim and seeking a refund. My guess is the surgery bill audit will go down the same path. And who knows if this is the tip of the iceberg?

    I have always kept very good documentation around my medical care (huge file around my care, copies of approvals and EOBs, records of conversations). I will be ready if this becomes a fight. I will be seeing my BS this Friday for a six month check up, and plan to go in with all these denials and to talk to them about what is happening. I am not sure where the root problem is, but find it amazing the insurance company can come back two years plus after treatment and say "we changed our minds, we are not paying for it after all." I don't know if that puts me on the hook to pay for this care but am worried. You know, you are the final guarantor on the account and all. I will start with the place this all began but will leverage the state insurance commission if this becomes an problem.

    Hard enough to go through this stuff, never mind not have things paid or payment decisions reversed! Be aware folks!

  • vlnrph
    vlnrph Member Posts: 1,632
    edited June 2015

    Bumping this thread because I am hearing about more situations like jazzy girl described in which insurance companies are attempting to reverse past claims and then demand reimbursement. This trend seems to be linked to a tendency to either deny coverage or offer approval initially but then refuse to pay.

    As if maintaining our health isn't difficult enough to begin with...

  • vlnrph
    vlnrph Member Posts: 1,632
    edited October 2015

    bumping for hopeful82014

  • vlnrph
    vlnrph Member Posts: 1,632
    edited March 2016
  • april485
    april485 Member Posts: 3,257
    edited March 2016

    Very valuable information. I called my State Commissioner's office about a denial for payment due to not getting pre-approval for an out of network lab and the decision was reversed. I had to pay a co-pay that I would not pay for an in network lab, but instead of 947.00, I had to pay 20% of that...huge difference. I had to take it to the State to get this settled though. It works!

  • Paxton29
    Paxton29 Member Posts: 221
    edited March 2016

    My insurer just sent a letter they are denying my second round of TC (I've already had my third and they paid for the first). It better be something as simple as a stupid coding error or you better believe I'm going to the Texas Department of Insurance. My husband did something online last night and said he would call them today. Very disturbing that you can have care approved and THEN denied--especially when their denial comes too late for you to address it in a timely manner. I guess they finally caught on to my scam to get them to pay to remove my breasts and install a port and go through chemo! I am just love love loving these hard tissue expanders, the hole in my skin over my catheter because I'm too thin for this size port apparently, and of course who can forget the hair loss, nausea, loss of taste, constipation and all the other joys of chemo

  • AmyQ
    AmyQ Member Posts: 2,182
    edited March 2016

    AND I love that they (the insurance companies) treat everyone as if they are a drug addict. Just this month mine unilaterally decided that the quantity of pills dispensed shall not exceed X number. They didn't say dosage, they said quantity which forced my physician and pharmacist to adjust the dosage so as to satisfy the arbitrary number of pills. Unfortunately by adjusting the dosage, I am suffering more pain because I don't need the higher amount in one shot - I'd rather it were spread out over the course of the day. I may call my Department of Commerce which governs Insurance in my state.

    Amy

  • vlnrph
    vlnrph Member Posts: 1,632
    edited March 2017

    It's been a year since this topic was at the top of the list so here's a bump for those experiencing problems receiving benefits!

  • mustlovepoodles
    mustlovepoodles Member Posts: 2,825
    edited March 2017

    Absolutely! Your State Insurance Commissioner is there to help you! I had a terrible time with my doctor's business office. She is associated with one of the biggest hospital systems in the Southeast. Interestingly, they were willing to take my insurance's negotiated rate for all my office visits, so the doctor was paid at 100%. However, they had different rules for the chemo portion, for some reason. They waited about 9 months and then started dunning me for money--over $93,000 worth of chemo. This was on top of the payment they had already accepted from my insurance. I absolutely refused to pay this! I do not understand how a hospital system which has negotiated a contract with an insurance company can then change their rules and balance bill. I live in a very competitive healthcare market. NO OTHER HOSPITAL SYSTEM has ever tried to do this to me. After going around and around with both the insurance AND the hospital billing office for 5 months, I submitted two complaints to the State Insurance Commissioner, along with all the copious notes I had taken with every phone call. Two weeks later, those bills had miraculously vanished.

    Now, I'm getting additional bills from an office visit in November. Erg! That's it! I'll pay the damn bill but I have decided to leave my beloved MO because I can't keep going through this~

  • gardengypsy
    gardengypsy Member Posts: 769
    edited March 2017

    Wow. So glad I found this thread!

  • amaasing
    amaasing Member Posts: 4
    edited October 2017

    Thanks for the thread. My insurance company is refusing to pay any of the cost for my yearly preventative Mammogram. Due to the BC last year my provider is required to code it as "diagnostic" and the Insurance company says if it's not coded as 'screening' they don't have to pay any of it. I did find a State Mandate on Insurance on line for my state and it includes the verbiage that the preventative part of the insurance coverage has to include both diagnostic and screening if there has not been any other mammograms within the prior year. I wasn't sure who to contact in the state to get the help I am going to need to appeal this - so finding this is very helpful.

    Wish me luck and thanks for the info.

  • gardengypsy
    gardengypsy Member Posts: 769
    edited October 2017

    amassing,

    They are nuts not to cover your yearly mammogram. I hope you engage in the appeals process and take this to the highest level!!

  • scaligirl
    scaligirl Member Posts: 74
    edited November 2017

    Does anyone know if calling the State Insurance Commissioner is valid for single-payer insurance only or employer-sponsored insurance as well? I know employer plans are governed by ERISA so a lot of state protections don't apply. But I'm having insurance issues as well so think anything that doesn't cost me can't hurt.

  • vlnrph
    vlnrph Member Posts: 1,632
    edited November 2017

    South Cali, your state has a website that describes the insurance commissioner’s office and scope of jurisdiction. They should be able to help - any company writing business which citizens purchase is in their area of concern.

    If you’re having problems, let them know!

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