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  • Lulubelle1
    Lulubelle1 Member Posts: 9
    edited January 2015

    Rads #1 completed. Very surreal experience. I kept thinking to myself when they were taking x-rays etc to make sure everything was set up right that I didn't belong there. "How did I end up here and then I have to keep coming back. I don't want to do this." I guess I still think I am going to wake up from this bad nightmare and be happy again.

  • ILCMom
    ILCMom Member Posts: 18
    edited January 2015

    It is surreal. Did I ever think I would be lying on a table being zapped listening to DMX? Nope. But then again here we are. I will do whatever it takes to get better - this year means left side mastectomy (prophylactic), hysterectomy (estrogen positive tumor with a gene mutation putting me at higher risk for ovarian/uterine cancer), colonoscopy (higher risk for colon cancer), oh and don't forget my kidney stones which need zapping. The indignities of this process and the scars remind me I am still alive.


    Love my husband but he does not help out with kids much or housework. I keep hearing lately about how I should get a job soon. I will get right on that after a clean PET scan. I know if he was sick he would have been awful through this - meanwhile here I am taking care of the kids yet again while doing everything at home without a thank you. Gotta love it

  • SCMom
    SCMom Member Posts: 112
    edited January 2015

    Fionascotti - which part of South Carolina are you in? I live in a Myrtle Beach. It sure was cold today!

    Saltygirl - radiation has definitely been the easiest part of this journey. I've done 21 out of 28 now and no major side effects. I was tired the first week, and my skin has just started turning red but that's it. I had immediate implants and my PS said that any implants can develop capsular contracture, not just radiated implants. And he said that the alloderm he used adds a layer of protection over the implants.

    As for Herceptin I haven't had any side effects with it, other than that I do think it's causing my hair to grow in slower than it should :(

  • WndrWoman
    WndrWoman Member Posts: 333
    edited January 2015

    Lulubelle1 Hope you can find many moments of happiness while having and treating the cancer. A pretty sunset, a funny card from a friend, a hug from someone you love, the company of a pet. Life may not feel carefree, but each day may be more valued. We heard today that a friend died from a surfing accident so one never knows.

  • WndrWoman
    WndrWoman Member Posts: 333
    edited January 2015

    I was thinking on the table as I bared my saggy boobs of a video of my BS who referred to "pendulous" breasts. That gave me a good laugh over her more tasteful term. My husband loves to say, "Put a sock under that pendulous breast."

  • CoyoteNV
    CoyoteNV Member Posts: 575
    edited January 2015

    I'm one of the ones who did not have rads the first time and IT came back.  Apparently the RO on my board thought I should at the time, but that news did not get to me.  Now, with a new MO who told me "Do chemo again AND rads or be Stage IV."  Somehow I felt truly inspired by her words.  I hated the chemo more than the rads by far.  But I did it all anyway.  In my case, fear was a motivator - I guess it depends on what you fear the most. 

  • Nomatterwhat
    Nomatterwhat Member Posts: 587
    edited January 2015

    You can do this Saltygirl.  I have my last boost tomorrow!!!  YAY!!!!  Does it suck? The daily grind sucks, but it gets better with time.  The only SE I had was peeling skin under my arm, but nothing Silvadene couldn't help.  My husband has been my biggest cheerleader and is taking me out to dinner tomorrow night to celebrate being done with all my treatments. 

  • PoppyK
    PoppyK Member Posts: 1,805
    edited January 2015

    Caryn, Holy Cow! A real man wouldn't show his woman how much her cancer is costing him! I am so sorry you have to deal with this, too. Where are you in North Carolina? Maybe I could send my brothers over there to kick his butt. ;-)

    My DH has been a great support through all this. BUT, I think he is getting tired of it all. It's hard to work all day, then come home and take care of the house, pets, kids.... whatever else I couldn't take care of that day. It's a long haul and we are both tired of this cancer crap. My DH took me to chemo and almost all of my appointments. I don't really need him for rads so far. He needs to make us some money!

    My RO is worried about how fatigued I am since I am less than 2 weeks in to a 5 week treatment plan. She ordered labs. Poo

  • meanmomto3
    meanmomto3 Member Posts: 31
    edited January 2015

    Am I the only one who'll never be able to eat a rotisserie chicken breast again?! I've finally got the combination of creams figured out, so I'm doing much better. Only 5 more to go after today! My RO said sensitive skin just reacts more strongly and is harder to treat/protect because many of the creams can cause additional irritation. I'm so thankful she and the nurses kept working with me to get the right combination. They've also given me a supply of disposable post/surgical "breathable" bras all the time. The more air I get, the better it heals and the less it holds heat. I don't care so much how it looks, thankfully! image

  • Cath57
    Cath57 Member Posts: 47
    edited January 2015

    Saltygirl, I know exactly what you're feeling ! I was on again off again for weeks.i went to my Sim, scheduled my first rad & the day I was supposed to start, called & said I wasn't comfortable with starting until I had some questions answered.Mind you, I had researched so much ( to my detriment) & I was certain that I would deal with every side effect known. I met with my RO & she spent her whole lunch hr answering all my questions . I was settled, I would go through it. It is my 4th day out of 33 . So far, so good! I only cried once on the table... I know I'm a whimp, especially that I didn't have to go through chemo as many of you have, but I also know that I can do this one day at a time. I suppose that I came to the conclusion that I don't want to deal with this again. Beach lady, congrats on completing this part of your journey & what a wonderful , supportive hubby you have! CoyoteNv, love your work! I also make my living doing my art. All of you are so encouraging & I'm grateful for this group!

  • Birdgirl11
    Birdgirl11 Member Posts: 51
    edited January 2015

    Meanmomto3 - I didn't know whether to laugh or cry at your chicken breast picture! Very funny on one hand, but on the other, sadly and very real. Good sense of humor, anyway!

    Glad to read you are down to your single digits - hang in there girl, you are almost there!!

  • WndrWoman
    WndrWoman Member Posts: 333
    edited January 2015

    meanmomto3 glad you are managing well. Can you share any info on the disposable and breathable bras?

  • Pita119
    Pita119 Member Posts: 85
    edited January 2015

    Cath57,

    You will get through this. We all have had some reservations about doing rads...just take one day at a time & just accept how you feel daily & know that it's okay to cry, vent or whatever helps relieve the stress. I am now in the hormone therapy phase of treatment & so far except for feeling a little warm occasionally, it's going okay but I do know that the SEs can start at any time. What kind of art do you do? I really like hearing about the different things people have the talent to do.

  • zjrosenthal
    zjrosenthal Member Posts: 2,026
    edited January 2015

    One day at a time. You all can do this. Each time we worry about what might happen, we miss the gift of today. I found out this week that my rads will be delayed for about 2 months because I need more surgery. An ALND is scheduled for February 12. I refuse to dwell on it since I want to go through this only once, not a hundred times in my mind. Love, Jean

  • eileenpg
    eileenpg Member Posts: 467
    edited January 2015


    Carynbrit+Give your Hubby a chart of how much stress he is giving you. That will dwarf the cost of your cancer treatments.  I was not one to leave people. My husband left me for soemone else. Best thing that ever happened to me. So,I now am strong enought to take care of myself. I would kick him to the curb

  • dacre
    dacre Member Posts: 84
    edited January 2015


    Getting ready to start radiation in about two weeks.  Not sure, but hoping it won't be as overshelming as the chemo was.  I had plannned on working during the chemo treatments as much as possible, but my supervisor was making my life so horribly stressful, that my onc took me out of work for the duration of the treatments.  I have now returned to work, and the aforementioned supervisor's behaviour is even worse.  I truly can't understand what HER issue is....yes, she is a woman, younger than myself, but a female!!!  One of her responses to me while I was out during  the chemo regarding my losing my hair...."Hair grows back"....This is something I say to people when they ask me if I would/was/did lose my hair...but for someone who is not particularly close to me in any way to make such a callous remark to any cancer patient undergoing chemo is beyond belief.  Of course, my reply to her was   "so does cancer"....that shut her up quickly...Her biggest issue was (now continues to be) my upcoming appts and/or being out of the office.

     To quote her specifically:  "As per my correspondence prior to your departure in November, please inform me well
    in advance regarding any time that you have to be out of the office so that adequate coverage may be planned.  Last minute notification about being out of the office is not acceptable."  My departure?????  REALLY!!!  It's not like I left for a cruise or an extended vacation!!! hmmm...I don't even know how to respond to her request....which by the way was sent by email (since she won't talk to me face-to-face), on my 2nd day back to work.  Hence, I have been very stressed in the whole 6 days that I have been back in the office and dread to think of how "she" is going to handle radiation. 

    If anyone could give me some insight regarding what to expect as far as side effects go and how this may impact my ability to work I would really appreciate it.  If it isn't enough stress to be told that you have BC, have surgery, have chemo, try to get through the holidays, knowing that 33 radiation treatments are in the future, I have no idea how I'm going to feel  fatigue, sore, burned.  etc now I have to worry about being able to function under her regime. 

    Did I mention she went as far as contact HR to make complaints regarding this issue of my having upcoming appts.????

  • Birdgirl11
    Birdgirl11 Member Posts: 51
    edited January 2015

    zjrosenthal - I love your thinking about not wanting to miss today and only wanting to go through this once, rather than a thousand times in your mind. That resonates with me. Thanks for posting that. We are human, and we worry and we do need to mentally prepare for some of this stuff. During radiation, I felt like I was always in crisis mode and couldn't choose anything but worry. Now that it's done, I am returning to my life where cancer doesn't rule over everything else. I feel like I have choices again on how I want to look at life. Looking forward to that time for all of you as well

  • Catie57
    Catie57 Member Posts: 263
    edited January 2015

    Dacre - I worked shortly after surgery and throughout chemo. I modified my work hours the week of chemo. Fortunately my bosses worked with me. I did make arrangements ahead of time for coverage, but of course things come up. I have done 15 out of 33 radiation treatments so far with no SEs to speak of yet. I go 7:45 am before work, so it doesn't effect my work hours. I did tell my boss I would not be staying late because I know myself, and know I poop out early. I would suggest talking to your boss and letting her know what to expect. I think when people have never had to deal with cancer they really have no clue. That's why it's great to have this discussion board to talk to. Not only are we all dealing with this, but going through it together. I was told by my RO that towards the end of rads to expect some fatigue. So far dealing fine with it. Hang in there...

    Cathie

  • CoyoteNV
    CoyoteNV Member Posts: 575
    edited January 2015


    Lots going on here!

    Cath57 - Yes, what do you do?  How has all of this impacted your creativity? Wow, wow, wow!  If you are able to make a living with art, you are clearly very talented and pretty darn good at what you do....(And you work hard)  That is not easy.  If I did not have an additional income, I'd be living under a bridge somewhere and starving.  I know a few others who can do it, and their work is exceptional.  BTW - Sounds like you have a very compassionate RO. 

    zjrosenthal - I definitely agree... once is bad enough. Multiple trips through it is the pits. 

    dacre - Welcome. Seems to me that a trip to HR might be a good idea for you.  My son is an HR director for a big company, I'm going to throw this scenario at him and see what he has to say about it.  Meanwhile, document the abuses and keep those emails.  As for how you will feel... everyone of us is different.  If you go through it like I did, you can work every day.  I'm certain that for others it was a very tough proposition. 

    Carynbrit - It's tough enough to go through all of this with good support.  I can't imagine how difficult it has been for you.  I'm so sorry.  Visualize yourself surrounded by a shield of light to create a layer of positivity that bounces all that negative energy away from you.  You might be surprised what your mind can do to protect you and give you strength.     

  • CoyoteNV
    CoyoteNV Member Posts: 575
    edited January 2015


    Pita - Super cute.  I particularly love the houses with the Santa sleigh on the plaque.   I find painting anything but a wall very difficult.  I appreciate what you do.  Have you considered tole painting a gourd?  The winter scene would be wonderful on a gourd - kind of a mini mural. 

  • dacre
    dacre Member Posts: 84
    edited January 2015

    Thank you CoyoteNV!  HR has been contacted by my Union rep which is how I discovered that my supervisor had already been in touch with them.  I have copies of all of the emails and HR and my Union rep both agree it is "bullying", and have assured me that all of my paperwork is in order and that I have been in total  compliance.  My supervisor was also given this info from HR but I don't think was too  happy about their reply.  To appease her, HR told her to just document any "misdoings" on my part and submit them to HR.  It's just so uncessary to have to deal with such an immature person.

    To Catie57 I have talked to my supervisor since the the day I was diagnosed....I was actually at work when I was told over the phone.  She has been made aware of every step of the process, but still expects me to be able to inform her well in advance of things I don't even know about yet. As far as office coverage....well if you know this work situation you would laugh.  The office consists of 3 full time people and 3 part-time people.  Most of the time I am the only person here so that I cannot even take my lunch break b/c the office must be open during the hours of 8:30-4:30.  All of the times that I have done this  not once was it ever recognized....given any extra compensation time so that I could go to appts without having to use my own personal time.  While I was out, there was coverage, or maybe not, but the place is still here and functioning whether I am physically sitting at the desk or not.  I just don't feel that her added stress is in anyway healthy or positive for me.  So, I don't think talking to her at this point is even a consideration....especially since the only way she will communicate with me is via email.

  • Pita119
    Pita119 Member Posts: 85
    edited January 2015

    dacre,

    Sounds like harassment to me. Am glad that you have a union rep in your corner. I would also document everything that your supervisor does regarding how you are being treated and save all emails, correspondence informing her about upcoming appts, etc. Maybe you can mention also to your union rep the constant coverage of the office that you provide to the point that you can't even take a lunch, and are not paid for the extra time that you work...I think that's a no no in the union world. I took a leave of absence from my job when I was dx'd. I was very fortunate that I didn't need chemo and the SEs of the radiation weren't terrible for me. I got a little pink by the second week. I had a few days of real fatigue but not the whole time I was being treated. I am now 11 days out from my last treatment & my skin did blister and get a little sore. I've been using Cocoa Butter with Vit E as per my RO. Everyone, from what I've heard & read reacts differently to the treatments. Will keep you & your situation in my thoughts & prayers. Just keep in touch.

    CoyoteNV...thank you for your comments. I've never thought about painting a gourd...may just try it. When it comes to the painting, I don't like doing any of the base coating so painting walls is not fun for me. But I do like doing the detail painting...I take pictures during the different stages of my painting & I am always amazed at how a little bit of detail can really make a piece.

  • WndrWoman
    WndrWoman Member Posts: 333
    edited January 2015

    dacre I would stick to the email as then you have all of her demands in writing. I am half way through and while now retired, I could have worked during this period. Some people have said the fatigue accumulates and might impact work in the last couple of weeks. Also be aware that our "grads" have said that SEs linger a week or two after the last treatment.

  • WndrWoman
    WndrWoman Member Posts: 333
    edited January 2015

    Had an unexpected change in procedure today. Threw me off at first but the new RO did give a satisfactory response afterwards. They will now do 3 xrays before each treatment to guide positioning and aiming. I expressed concern about extra radiation. She said they take that into account and adjust the dosage when they zap me. I know others have had similar concerns.

  • Carynbrit
    Carynbrit Member Posts: 51
    edited January 2015

    eileenpg ( I used to live in Sebastian btw once).. I hear that.. I actually said it was still cheaper than a funeral and the care of our daughter afterwards and every single thing else I do around here (which is it all except for a wage.. im in college) but to him 'wage' trumps anything else and I dont earn anything.. ironically every time I 've had a job and done really well.its got sabotaged..usually with a big move (across to another state for instance..). Right now.. well. I started college last summer..because I just need to get a decent job for MY future.....then out of here I go...Even if its just a few classes at a time.. Cancer was a massive roadblock...but don't they always happen like that?but even in such a time..his 'stuff' continues..I'm past the point of no return.

    PoppyK I wish I was still in CA! I'd take you up on it! (Ive lived all over the place,trawling around after him as he changed jobs) Good luck with the labs!

    CoyoteNV haven't lived there lol.. but put my food across the boarder near Tahoe..just because I could. Thanks.. I tend to do that.. i've been doing the shielding for about the last 3 years.. been seeing and talking with the womens shelter too.. because of the things he does and situations he puts me in. I can do okay most of the time..just deflecting it..and not absorbing it..but of course some times I can't get there..so .. but anyway.. I'm pretty strong! I know that much.


    Rads today #21. Went okay.. definitely looking sun-burnt now and swollen..was told to increase the amount of times I applied the aloe and think about taking Ibuprofen for the swelling (inflammation). I'm good with it though..it's all right.

    Hope everyone has a decent (good) weekend.. I know I like to have weekends 'off' from treatments


    x

  • LMVerna
    LMVerna Member Posts: 19
    edited January 2015

    Hi Salty,

    I was also in the gray area and had a hard time deciding to do radiation. I had a big mental block about doing the radiation, but I did it and i am done. It sucked, not as much as chemo, but it was no picnic. I'm 2 1/2 weeks out and am starting to feel better now. My skin is still not pretty--still peeling but at least the blisters have heeled over. However, it is better than a recurrence. I talked with my oncology nurse practitioner about trying to decide and she said even if it only gives you a 1% less chance of recurrence, that can make a big difference. I made the decision that no matter what, I wanted to do whatever I could. I have 3 kids and I want to see them graduate, get married, have kids, etc. There are no guarantees with any of this treatment stuff but I think we are all a lot stronger than we even know and we just get through it. We have our meltdowns and rants but there is a lot of support to get through it. Good luck with whatever you decide.

  • PoppyK
    PoppyK Member Posts: 1,805
    edited January 2015

    Coyote, I love your work. I don't have any artistic ability, but I admire those who do and appreciate their talent and their work.

    Caryn, It shows under your name that you live in North Carolina. My brothers live in the Raleigh area, which is why I offered their services. Have you tried contacting a local cancer group for counseling and/or support?

    Dacre, It definitely sounds like a hostile work environment. You are covered by federal law. You have rights as a cancer patient. Here is a website I found helpful: http://employment-law.freeadvice.com/employment-law/job_discrimination/employee_rights_for_cancer_patients.htm

    Here is some info from that website:

    Here are a few accommodations available to cancer patients in full- and part-time employment:

    • leave for doctors' appointments and/or to seek or recuperate from treatment;
    • periodic breaks or provision of a private area to rest or to take medication;
    • adjustments to a work schedule;
    • permission to work at home;
    • modification of office temperature;
    • permission to use work telephone to call doctors;
    • reallocation or redistribution of marginal tasks to another employee; and
    • reassignment to another job.

    Sorry your supervisor is being a jerk. No one should have any thing else to deal with when they have to fight cancer.



  • Nomatterwhat
    Nomatterwhat Member Posts: 587
    edited January 2015
  • Nomatterwhat
    Nomatterwhat Member Posts: 587
    edited January 2015


    Coyote, I get a smiley face, please!!!!!  I am done, done, done!!!!!!  WOO-HOO!

    Caryn, just be careful.  It sounds like you are in a volatile situation. 

    Darce, Welcome to the group.  Poppy is correct, you are definitely covered under ADA and any HR department knows the rules and regulations when dealing with cancer.  Your boss is bullying and harassing you.  My husband is union and it is a really big no-no not to let you have a lunch or even breaks.  Radiation is a lot easier than chemo.  I did mine on my lunch hour, but I was only 5 minutes from the center.  I finished today, YAY, and the only SE I have is itching.  I always emailed my boss with doctor's appointments and sent a copy of the email home.  If the email happened to disappear or my boss said she didn't get it, I could send it to her again and still have my copy at home.  CYA, Darce!!!!!  Can you apply for FMLA?  That would really peeve her off. 

  • eileenpg
    eileenpg Member Posts: 467
    edited January 2015

    Caryn=Good luck. I hate reading about your situation. Can you go to relatives?

    Nomatterwhat=Yeah you.

    Darce=My last boss hassled me the whole time I took care of a ex husband dying from cancer. Mandatory meetings same times as his MO appointments. Overall incentive and rude. I got wind of the fact I was either going to be let go or put on some sort of probation. I put in for a FMLA 3 hours before my meeting with my boss. I was not fired only told after I came back I was on probation. Never knew for what. I never returned after FMLA ended. Good luck

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