Starting Chemo October 2014
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So interesting how everyone reacts differently to the same drugs. I get TC every three weeks and Neulasta the next day. "It" gets exponentially worse with each treatment. And by "it" I mean the fatigue my MO references. It ain't fatigue, ya'll It's ZOMBIDOM!!! It ain't 'foggy' it's freakin' brain dead!! I can't think clearly enough to formulate a thought for 4 days let alone stay awake longer than two blinks. Can hardly wait to see how the final two treatments leave me. My SEs always start 48 hours after chemo and 24 hours after the Neulasta. Always begins with bone pain, then the ickiness sets in followed by a rapidly ensuing near-comatose state. I'm in the chair for four solid days, up only to pee. Poop? What's that? Is this something I should be doing? Then midway thru the fourth day I awaken, like a rose on a sunny morning. It is such a glorious feeling to have a clear head. But the weakness, that profound weakness, persists for another couple of days and then.... I'm good to go. Until the next time. 4 down, 2 to go.
Hoping everyone is well enough to enjoy the holidays, sending good vibes to all. HoHoHo!!!
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Nottoday I loved the poem!
I have been taking the Prilosec more consistently and that seems to be helping. The rash appears to be drying up and I snipped the suture myself in my neck. They can look at everything when I go in is my thought. I am a bit apprehensive after reading some of the posts as I start the Taxol January 2 and I will be doing it every Friday for 8 weeks. I hear its suppose to be easier, but I am not convinced that will be the case now. It takes me a week to get my stomach back right and now I won't have that.
Having this long break between chemo has made me feel almost normal.I got my nails done two weeks ago and got them done again today because they had grown out so much,energy level is good, stomach is finally normal just I'm time for Christmas. Then back at it.
Redporchlady- I would have hot flashes before but not like this. It's like I go super nova from head to toe then am soaked, then 5 minutes later freezing. Its crazy.
Leto- I hope your SE diminish as I watch how it seems to effect you as we seem to be taking some of the thing
Cherice I will be thinking of you and got you I'm my prayers for an easy day tomorrow and afterwards
Merry Christmas, get some rest and stay positive folks.
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Dear friends,
Last dose of C/T yesterday. It went well. I had to have a PICC line installed just before the infusion because doses 2 and 3 both took out a vein, and left red stains on my skin. Those are starting to fade. The PICC line installation went well and the infusion nurses removed it at the end. Don't worry if you have to go through this. My MO didn't want to do a port for 4 infusions and said my reaction to the taxotere - the vein loss - was unusual.
And then, I got to ring the bell! Didn't know whether to laugh or cry - laughing won. My husband got teary. He's been such a rock. Boy, we've all been through a lot, haven't we?
Came home and was sound asleep by 9 p.m. Slept until 8 a.m. And it was wonderful sleep (aided by half a zanax), not one of those wake up every 3 hours and check your e-mails kind of sleep. And then I took a nap from 9:30 to 11:30 this morning. Hope I can muster the energy to wrap Christmas presents!
Cherice - sending loving thoughts your way today from East Coast to West, and Mandy and Tobycc, same for you onr Friday!
Nancy - congrats on the taxol part - my infusion nurse yesterday said herceptin is much easier.
Becca - glad you are (re)covered for zofran. Not sure what we would do without that miracle drug. Regarding fatigue, I've learned to write off at least 5 days and nap as much as possible. And then afterwards, I still go to bed earlier. Seems like I can feel fine one moment and comatose the next. But I figure it's good for my body to help cope with the chemo-terrorists within. And luckily, I have the world's kindest boss and colleagues, who have allowed me the time I need to recover, and, on the other hand, welcome my participation when I'm able. I'm looking forward to feeling stronger and working harder, and paying them back.
To anyone I've left out - I'm cheering for you. And I'm wishing for us all peaceful holidays and a healthy 2015.
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Becca - I sympathize with your profound weakness/zombiedom! How are your red blood and magnesium levels? I had anemia which was getting worse even after two weeks of iron pills. My MO started me on an iron sucrose infusion and a magnesium infusion yesterday along with my #4 taxol tx. (7 hours in the chemo chair and I may never poop again OR have chronic diarrhea- wonderful choices!) I am hoping to feel like Wonderwoman, soon. You always make me laugh with your honest and smart description
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She-Angel - I am doing 12 weeks of Taxol and get my 4th Taxol on December 26th. However every 3 weeks I get Carboplatin but so far it is easier than AC/Cytoxan. I was getting Neulasta shots but now I am not getting anything but the Oncologist did say if my counts drop too far I may need a blood transfusion or platelet transfusion plus shots at home. So far so good though. Sorry about the hot flashes! Plus they interfere with your sleep and sometimes leave you soaked. I hope that gets better for you.
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i had TCH #4 (of a planned 6) last week, and think I have hit the wall. My SE's this time have been overwhelming, terrible constipation and stomach cramps, then switching to explosive D, along with being able to sleep only in small spurts. I am considering asking MO to discontinue the TC and proceed to Herceptin-only stage. The 6-week TCH is, I guess, pretty standard, but I have read on BCO about ladies doing TCHx4, or Taxol, or just Herceptin from the get-go. I realize that either way, the future course if uncertain. When I go in tomorrow for bloodwork, i will leave a note for MO, and hope to sort a revised plan.
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I got a big 'Sister' hug from a total stranger at the grocery store yesterday. I don't wear the wigs when I'm not working - and only a hat when I'm out and about. A lady walked up to me and asked if I was going through the same crap she went through. So we stood there in the middle of the aisle and compared notes. At the end, we gave each other 'Sister' hugs. It was kind of emotional and comforting in a way.
I didn't get her name, but her kindness and support was truly one of the best Christmas gifts I could ever receive. Bless her heart!
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Merry Christmas everyone! I hope everyone can enjoy the day with family or friends.
I do have a question. I started Taxol yesterday. My Dr. was concerned about neuropathy because I already had a little in my toes from my diabetes. I have to say that after one dose, I am already feeling more tingling. I have the option of switching to weekly doses, but I really don't want to extend treatments if I don't have to.
I'm wondering if anyone is dealing with neuropathy from Taxol and if anyone has had any luck reducing it.
Thank you
Beth
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I'm sorry your SEs have kicked in so bad this time. I can offer a suggestion for the constipation. Swiss Kriss is available at GNC, and it is a natural stool softener. It works as well or better than Dulcolax. I've been dealing with really bad constipation from the start and it has really helped.
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Valentine99 - I had my 2nd Taxol treatment yesterday. I have more SEs on Taxol than I ever did on A/C. After the first does, I started feeling numbness in the fingers in toes but it comes and goes. I bought some Gel Gloves and Gel Socks from Bed, Bath, and Beyond - I put those on ice to cool them and put them on my hands and feet during the treatment. Not sure if it helps, but it sure can't hurt - right? I have also broken out in little red bumps - the Clariton seems to help with these.
I am wondering the same thing - has anyone found something to reduce the numbness? I found a new group on this site called "Weekly Taxol group" and was just perusing some of their posts to see similar issues from Taxol. Also, I was just reading about Vitamins B6 and B12 might help. Something safe to consider but I need to read up on it more and check with the MO.
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ask your ONC about B6 because he said it doesn't help according to read research. I am having tingling and numbness but he said he would not get to concerned unless I was having difficulty with buttoning things. I am on my 4th Taxol today. Also my 2nd Carbo hit so wondering if side effects will be worse. My platelets are at 101 so wondering if the double will drive them down this next week.
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The MO has switched my plan to 4-TCH, so I am done with that chapter, and on to the Herceptin only phase. Thank goodness!
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No chemo for me today. My MO said my WBC was low and I was anemic. I was disappointed, but I trust what he says. He said it could do more harm than good so...we shoot for next Friday.
My husband and I made the most of it and took the kids out so they could use their gift certificates and then took them to lunch.
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Mandy, do you take immune therapy shots for your WBC and will you get a transfusion? My ONC doesn't want me to miss treatments. He said we will adjust with immune boosting shots and transfusions and try and get my treatment ASAP. Although I have to admit it will probably be nice to have an extra week! 😄
Roxanne
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Fatigue. Someone, please define "fatigue" associated with this chemo. I am 9 days out from my last tx and sleep an inordinate number of hours every day. I get my 8 nightly and another 8 throughout the day. I sit in my chair with no intention of sleeping and wake up four hours later. It's becoming troublesome because I don't know how I'll continue to work full-time if I can't stay awake. Luckily my office has been closed since noon on the 24th but I'll need to resume regular hours on the 28th. Advice, please.
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Roxanne - My MO said that even though my count was low, I was close so he didn't give me a shot or transfusion. He wants to give it a week based on my past labs. He said he knew that I wanted to be finished with this as soon as possible, but he didn't want to put me in harm's way.
I'm taking it easy this weekend and staying in. Honestly, I would like to shop for new sweaters, but I am just too tired and it is better that I stay home. Forced family fun! LOL Getting ready to start the Lord of the Rings marathon.
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Mandy, perfect to do on a Saturday. I miss shopping too but my husband is very adamant about keeping me well so he does all the shopping which is spoiling me. Our kids are grown so it makes home life easier for just us two. Have a good weekend. Roxann
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Becca - 7 hour nap yesterday. I don't know how to describe this fatigue, but it takes over and there is nothing you can do about it. Check with your MO re anemia - I'm sure your MO is on it, but after Three weeks of RBC dropping and prescribed iron pills not working, I got an iron infusion and will get another this week. MOsays I should feel better gradually. I Will have a nap in the meantime. Good luck! Lind
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Hi All,
This is my first time posting, but I've been following this website since September, and have learned a lot. I started my treatments October 17, and have them once every 3 weeks, to have a total of 6 prior to surgery. I've had 4 treatments, last one being December 19 and am having an awful time with eating. Especially after the last treatment, it feels as though my esophogus is burning. I am down 12 pounds and can barely even drink fluids. Yesterday when I went for bloodwork they kept me to give me fluids and the MO said that he is going to lighten up the last 2 treatments by eliminating the carboplatin. So, my biggest complaint with SE is not being able to eat and drink. Has anyone had any trouble with their esophogus or have any suggestions? My pattern seems to be that it takes me 11 or 12 days to be able to eat a full plate of food. I also have the expected metalic taste, and try to use plastic utensils as well as lemon drops.
I hope that everyone finds joy in the Christmas Season and has a Healthy New Year for 2015.
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Have ou tried Prilosec? If you google Magic Berry it is a bean type berry that a friend gave me. I put it in the freezer and take a tiny bite... really does take away the metallic taste.
Have you tried ensure or any of those products? Unlike you I have gained weight: and not from overeating: just from these lovely chemicals, and water retention. I know hard it is though to be hungry and dread the thought of eating.
Prayer for you; so glad you found us
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Just poking in to see how everyone is doing and if you all survived the holidays. I finished my 4th TC on Dec 4 and it was the worst of them all, mostly from Zombidom like Becca phrased it! I couldn't stand not being able to use my mind or even know what day it was! I managed through the holiday with little fatigue, another double eye infection and now extreme muscle fatigue which I wasn't expecting. I thought once my eyes cleared things would be looking up! I can hardly move without muscle pain like I've been lifting weights. And just when I thought it would be safe to start working out, nope. Just getting my small children dressed in the morning is exhausting. I really hope this doesn't last! I go for my second opinion for radiation on Tuesday, hoping for milder treatment option with the second opinion, the first one sounded excessive. I'm so afraid of the long term effects..
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Well good, nice to know I'm not alone in Zombidom. Not that I'd wish this on anyone but it was becoming concerning. Good to know it's 'normal'. Because the SEs are cumulative, I can't wait to see where treatments 5 and 6 leave me.
Esophageal distress - ended up in the hospital overnight Dec 8/9, 13 days after tx 3, with esophageal pain so intense I swore it was a heart attack (I have a history of heart disease/stent). The heart was ruled out but because no one called my MO the esophagus wasn't considered. This despite mouth sores and the worse case of diarrhea ever (mucositis), the mucosal irritation was from stem to stern. My next check up with the MO I was started on Prilosec and symptoms are gone.
Mouth flavors - I'm Day 11 from Tx 4 now and my appetite is still off. Nothing trips my trigger. I've been surviving on clementines and frozen juice pops. My mouth initially feels like it's coated in lard and I can hardly put water in my mouth. Anything dry e.g. bread, crackers makes me think I'm chewing on cardboard. Then the coated feeling goes away and unless food is cold I can't put it in my mouth. It tastes so bad I'd rather go hungry. As of today, and par for the course, I taste nothing, food isn't good nor bad, it's nothing. And yes, this is disturbing to me. There is absolutely no pleasure in eating, so I rarely do. Just enough to keep me going.
Dear God, I just want this behind me. It is taking all that I have and then some. Please give us all the strength needed to complete our treatment plans and to emerge healthier and stronger on the other side.
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Last treatment for me tomorrow! I am dreading it nonetheless. Last go round was no picnic. For anyone out there experiencing heartburn, I highly recommend Prilosec. I take it in the morning, and my nurse said I could take it again in the evening before bed if I still had problems. Taking Claritin for the first time this go round. Last treatment they did not give me Benedryl, and I think that contributed to increased bone pain from the Neulasta. For prevention of mouth sores, I rinse with Biotene a couple of times a day, starting on day one. I haven't had any problems with mouth sores. Becca, I feel your pain about the taste changes. I literally force myself to eat during the week following a treatment. I find salty foods to be best. I eat toast for breakfast, chicken soup for lunch, and white foods for dinner (chicken, rice, potatoes).
I am happy that chemo will be behind me and hoping that rads isn't too bad.
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Dear all,
I had my last round of cytoxan/taxotere Tuesday and the Neulasta shot on Friday. This time, with the approval of my MO, I tried something different. Where for the 1st 3 rounds, I stopped the steroids entirely as recommended the night after chemo, this time I have gradually tapered off of them, and will likely to continue to taper through tomorrow when I will take a last, very low dose. This seems to have greatly reduced the fatigue and achiness. Of course, it all may come bounding back when I stop the steroids entirely. I'll let you know.
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Thanks Toby, I do need the prayers as I know we all do. I take a Prilosec and drink Ensure and Carnation Instant Breakfast. I didn't mind either at first, but now I can hardly tolerate them as well. I also try to drink Gatorade. I have never heard of Magic Berry, and will definitely google it, thanks for the tip. Yes, these lovely chemicals that we endure do very scary things to our bodies. I could run 3 miles days before I started treatments, and now I can't even take a walk. I hope and pray the treatments work for everyone.
Becca, your description of Zombidom is right on. As well as mouth flavors....it is exactly how it is for me, right down to the bread. I will have to try the juice pops and clementines. I cried myself to sleep last night because I cannot eat or drink and I am starved. The more I don't eat or drink, the more I get depressed. Food has always been such an enjoyment to me. And after each treatment that I've had, I always say that I'm not going back, but I do. I feel terrible whining my way through my treatments when I know some others are even worse off. I've been taking Valtrex to help keep the mouth sores away and it does seem to help, however, my tongue does get a little sore and numb as well.
Sjacobs, congratulations on having your last treatment. I wish you all the best and no SEs and good luck with the RADS.
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i too am now 'done' after deciding to stop at TCH #4 instead of the planned 6. I don't feel any better physically, and still lying on the couch and not eating. But psychologically, I feel lighter. Of course, I will be back there every 3 weeks anyway for my Herceptin ... hopefully that will go as easily as I am expecting.
Another vote here for clementines and popsicles.
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Becca- Yes after my cycle #4 of TCHP I was basically in bed for 2 weeks, severe tummy problems and everything I ate tasted like chewing glue. The fatigue has gotten worse each go round, but I am trying to focus on I just have 2 more rounds to go. Hope your SE's improve. I am also still working "full time" and it can be a struggle to keep my eyes open, along with sudden bathroom breaks.
Armamp95 and SJacobs- congrats on being finish with your current cycles
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My last infusion I had Taxol instead of Taxotere, I am able to function better as in able to walk around the house instead of lying in bed. I do have increased numbness in my hands and feet with leg cramps, but still an improvement over my last chemo. I had a nice quiet Christmas, despite the fact that I overestimated my energy, passed out and face planted on the floor. Now I get to go back to work tomorrow with a big road rash scar in the middle of my face
In better news, I was able to make some homemade broth with veggies and chicken that my tummy likes, YAY! So happy that I have something healthy to eat that my body tolerates. I have lasted past 2 weeks on Cherry Garcia ice cream and cran-grape juice. Wishing everyone lessening SE and something to smile about this week. I just keep focused on This too shall Pass.
Cherice
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Sjacobs, CONGRATS on your last treatment tomorrow, you made it!! Ring that bell loud and proud!!!!! Now you can join us on the rads board.
Nottoday and armamp95, CONGRATS to you for finishing!!! You have made it through chemoland. -
Redporchlady - My surgery is tentatively planned for the first week of February. My 3 cm lump is no longer palpable and I am planning to have a lumpectomy and sentinel node dissection with possible axillary node dissection.
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