November 2014 Starting Chemo Crew

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  • karen1971
    karen1971 Member Posts: 37
    edited December 2014

    MERRY CHRISTMAS EVERYONE! my 3rd. round is jan.6th.

  • enlm20Erica
    enlm20Erica Member Posts: 216
    edited December 2014

    Merry Christmas to you all. Asking for your prayers for my family I lost my grandfather on the 21st of this month (the day after my wedding anniversary), we were very very close, I miss him so. His funeral will be this Saturday the 27th (which is my birthday). He was 71, he and my grandma were married 52 years. Please pray for her. Chemo round 3 for me is on the 29th. After that only one more to go. Happy Holidays you all. Much Love from me to you💗

  • WheelyGirl
    WheelyGirl Member Posts: 181
    edited December 2014

    enlm20Erica - So sorry to hear about your loss.  Sending prayers out to you for support on Saturday.

  • Cookies
    Cookies Member Posts: 41
    edited December 2014

    is any one doing 4 rounds AC followed by 12 rounds of taxol? I am 3 rounds in - mental foggy and emotional funk has settled in - trying to stay positive but my husband has been challenging - he doesn't want to talk about it and actually forgot to take me to chemo one day. I have to beg him to do anything - please take the laundry doe nor take out the trash - he has never been much physical help around the house but now he is completely emotionally detached and mad at me. This on top of a 4 and 7 year old with a rare cancer - I'm metaplastic - and md Anderson said my survival rate is 50% in the next three years - I am thinking of counseling -

  • karen1971
    karen1971 Member Posts: 37
    edited December 2014

    enlm20Erica: sorry for loss. prayers for you and your family. happy early birthday. good luck on your round 3 of chemo. love you too friend.

    cookies: just hang in there i know it's hard hun, but i know how you feel my boyfriend helps me with a few things, but as in cleaning the house, going grocery shopping, or doing the laundry that is not his area and i know his sister across the street won't come over and help. that is why i do it because that way i know it is going to be done. but i love him with all my heart. he does take me to my appointments though i am happy for him doing that. hopefully he will come around. i hope this help. just take one day at a time hun. i will be praying for you and you husband.

  • Kimberli43
    Kimberli43 Member Posts: 14
    edited December 2014

    Erica - I'm so sorry for your loss. I lost my grandfather last year and understand how you feel.

    Cookies - the cancer center where I get treatment offers free counseling. I've never done counseling before but it has really helped to talk to someone. I don't want to talk to my family about how I feel because they are going through their own stuff with my diagnosis. It might be worth looking into. Also, someone posted on the FB group about a service that will come clean your house while you are going through treatment.

    I have a question for the ladies who shaved their head...how do you take care of your bald head? Do you use shampoo or regular body soap? Lotion?

    I did get a wig and a hat wig. My wig is human hair and I feel like it needs to trimmed. Has anyone else had their wig cut? I love my hat wig and wear it every day.

    Hope everyone had a great Christmas and is feeling good. My second round was better than the first. I took Claritin for 5 days which seemed to help with the bone pain

  • TallyLassie
    TallyLassie Member Posts: 56
    edited December 2014

    Hi Everyone! I've taken a break for Christmas, and was over on Facebook for some of that time, but it's important to be with the original chemo crew here. Isn't it sad how life just doesn't seem to give us a break when we most need it? I'm so sorry to learn of Erica's loss. Erica, I'm thinking of you and your family at this sad time. Cookies, it's so hard to deal with this alone much less with someone else having issues. My husband is wonderful, but every winter he goes into a funk and he's telling me he's depressed now. I'm not surprised, but it brings me down, too. I just have to remind myself that it's not about me. Please find someone who can counsel you--I hope your doctor or insurance company can recommend someone, or perhaps you have clergy. I've done it many times in the past for various reasons, and it is such a relief to talk with someone. It's a sign of strength to get yourself some help.

    Kimberli, I use baby shampoo on my head that still has stubbles, just to keep it clean. I tried putting lotion on it once, but it just gummed up my hats, so stopped. It doesn't get too dry when I leave it alone. I have an artificial wig, but I did wear it to my regular hairstylist and she trimmed it up to fit my face better, so that might work for you. I still don't feel the same in the wig, so I mostly am wearing hats and caps around the house.

    I'm on Day 5 of my third round of CT, and feel very foggy, like I'm underwater, and very fatigued. I went for a walk today and it was a struggle but the fresh air and sunshine of north Florida felt so good.

    I hope everyone's day gets better. Hang in there, we're all in this together! T

  • ThinkingPositive
    ThinkingPositive Member Posts: 834
    edited December 2014

    Had my second round of chemo today. Did okay so far. Was concerned that my wbc count was at 12,000... is that normal? Doctor did not seem concerned. He stated that steroids that I took yesterday,and this morning plus the neulasta shot I had the day after the first chemo is the reason that the wbc's are above normal. Has anyone experienced this with their blood work?

  • ThinkingPositive
    ThinkingPositive Member Posts: 834
    edited December 2014

    Also did anyone experience tingling in the hands and lower arm periodically? I know this is a side effect but is it common and does it go away.

  • WheelyGirl
    WheelyGirl Member Posts: 181
    edited December 2014

    ThinkingPositive - My white count and neutrophils were high prior to my first chemo on Dec 3rd, then when I went on Dec 10th I had neutropenia with white count at 1000 and neutrophils 0 but when I went in for my second treatment on the 24th the white count was high and so were the neutrophils but my lymphocytes were low.  Apparently there are many things that can cause this to happen (including stress) and my Onc was not worried either in fact I still had to have the Neulasta shot this morning to avoid the neutropenia again.

  • ThinkingPositive
    ThinkingPositive Member Posts: 834
    edited December 2014

    wheelygirl...if I may ask what was your wbc count...of course i started googling and thats not a good thing!!

  • WheelyGirl
    WheelyGirl Member Posts: 181
    edited December 2014

    I don't remember what it was on the 3rd but remember they were high then on the 10th (7 days after 1st round of TC) the wbc was 1.0 (1,000) on the 15th when I went back because I thought I had a urinary tract infection they were 3.9 (4,000) and then on the 24th before my second treatment they were 13.6 (13,000).  According to the nurse that gave my neulasta shot this morning there are many things that can cause this and those numbers may not be high for my body.  The range is just an average measure.  Sounds plausible to me so I am going to accept that and try not to worry about it.

  • ThinkingPositive
    ThinkingPositive Member Posts: 834
    edited December 2014

    Thanks wheelygirl.. did they also take a vial of blood from you from your port? They did for me today, wasn't sure whether that is standard or not.

  • WheelyGirl
    WheelyGirl Member Posts: 181
    edited December 2014

    Yes, they always do before chemo.

  • Metta
    Metta Member Posts: 84
    edited December 2014

    Erica, I'm so sorry about your grandfather. My dear grandpa died this month, too, and I was lucky to be well enough to be at the funeral. I feel so bad that I can't help my poor grandma or even visit because I'm stuck in bed. So sorry for you and your grandmother especially.

    Cookies, my heart breaks for you. I have a less-than-helpful husband, too, but my kids are a little older and can fix themselves sandwiches etc. You could request four months of free housekeeping at cleaningforareason.com. I feel very alone lately. My husband has always been a daily drinker and got plastered the night of my second A/C round, when I was quite ill. He continues to go to weekly happy hour and last Friday stayed out until 1-2:00 am, which led to him coming down with the flu. Which led to canceling Christmas with relatives. I am fine with taking care of myself, but sheesh, at least he could try to protect us. Rant over.

    I finished my last of 4 DD A/C on Christmas Eve. I usually crash hard three days later, which is tomorrow. I'm going to drink tons of water and possibly walk (I used to run, but I'm a couch potato now).

    Have you guys seen the weekly taxol thread? We might be in for a rocky ride. Scared! But overall they say it's easier than A/C, at least the first six weeks.

    Thanks for being here, everyone!

  • Leslienva
    Leslienva Member Posts: 489
    edited December 2014

    Erica--so sorry to hear that your grandfather passed away. I was also very close to my grandfather. It's never easy to lose a loved one, but I'm sure it's extra difficult while going through cancer treatments. But now you have a guardian angel looking out for you. Hang in there

  • TallyLassie
    TallyLassie Member Posts: 56
    edited December 2014

    On WBC counts, mine was 18.2 with a reference range of 4.1-10.9, so way high as well, 2 weeks after the neulasta shot. The nurse told me that it was from the neulasta shot and not to worry. I think it's great to have them so high.

    So sorry to hear of woes with less than supportive partners. I guess that this is a tough time for them, too, and we all choose our own ways of dealing with setbacks. Hang in there. We care here!

  • sashield
    sashield Member Posts: 5
    edited December 2014

    I hope everyone had a great Christmas, or at least could take a few moments for themselves to enjoy. I had my third treatment on the 22nd, so the side effects kicked into full gear for Christmas Eve - so lovely!

    Cookies - I wanted to pipe in and offer my opinion. Counselling is an amazing tool, and you will surprise yourself how much insight you have into your own feelings and strength as soon as someone can help you tease it out. I have a great psychologist that I have worked with for a few years now, and I am now going to her because it seems I can make myself nauseous just by thinking of sitting in the chemotherapy unit. It's truly incredible to see the power of our own thoughts (for the negative or the positive!)

    I also wanted to add that I will be doing weekly Taxol treatments to the few ladies that have said they are doing the same. I will start beginning of February. I talked to my doctor about switching from Taxotere to Taxol when I read about the potential long term side effects and he agreed that Taxol was a better option for me. But Metta, I wouldn't be any more worried than the ladies that have to do Taxotere, from what I understand, they are both pretty bad. But just like anything else, often the anticipation is much worse than the actual, so I think it's important to just approach it with an open mind. Who knows? Maybe you'll like it....just kidding, I think that would be impossible.

    Hope everyone has a lovely end of 2014, and just think, new beginnings for 2015!

  • thrifty1
    thrifty1 Member Posts: 67
    edited December 2014

    Hi everyone :) hope you all were able to enjoy Christmas. After my Nuelesta shot it made my WBC critically high so 2nd chemo my dr didn't have me do Nuelesta but instead I went in 4 days in a row for a shot called "Granix". Which elevated my WBC normal. Erica, will pray for you and your family, so sorry for your loss. Sorry to hear about those who struggle with their spouses. Has to very hard emotionally. :-( I am all for counceling. Even before diagnosed with bc my husband and I done 2 years of counceling and are so thankful for it. Yes hard work but together we are so much stronger! :-) my next treatment is also January 6th, but dr is reducing strength 25% since having horrible side effects. Wish me luck 3rd round goes better please. Hugs to you all. :):)

  • Jumpship
    Jumpship Member Posts: 305
    edited December 2014

    Starting to lose eyelashes....is anyone else? Can anything be done?

  • knittingPT
    knittingPT Member Posts: 156
    edited December 2014

    hey everybody! Erica, I'm so sorry about your grandfather and will keep your family in my thoughts. Cookies I amso sorry that your husband isn't supporting you more. I know caregivers have their own stressors and he is overwhelmed too. However missing your chemo. Well that's just not okay! I hope that he and you can both find the support you need to get through this horrible period. I'm doing same treatment plan as you. I did my last AC week before Christmas and start my taxol jab 9. My first three rounds weren't horrible. My last round knocked me down with fatigue. I'm also starting to have pain in my fingernails. So my usual activities are, of course, very active pursuits like running. Now I can't even do my "backup" hobbies like knitting. I'm not looking forward to three more months of chemo!! I've been through my fair shares of mental suffering in my life but the physical is a whole new game. I know we will get through it but it sure isn't fun. Thankful to have a supportive group to vent wit

  • TallyLassie
    TallyLassie Member Posts: 56
    edited December 2014

    Oh, Knitting, I hear you! I'm feeling really set back today, terrible nausea and fatigue, and gastrointestinal distress. I'm totally readjusting my activities and feeling kind of down that it is an effort to even walk around the block. I'm less than halfway through this chemo and wondering how I'll make it to March. When, darn it, I have surgery to look forward to. Sigh. No one knows how tough this is but us. Thanks for listening.

  • Leslienva
    Leslienva Member Posts: 489
    edited December 2014

    Minivan, several of us are using Brian Joseph'seyebrow gel on our eyebrows and eyelashes. I've had three rounds of taxotere and Cytoxan and I still have them. But I heard they can fall out after the last treatment. If that happens, I have Lumigen on hand.

  • enlm20Erica
    enlm20Erica Member Posts: 216
    edited December 2014

    Thank you all for your prayers and support, i really appreciate it. I'm praying that those of us having chemo tomorrow have a smooth problem free day and NO SIDE EFFECTS! It's round 3 for me tomorrow. Wishing everyone the very best, much love from me to you💗

  • MidLifeCrisis
    MidLifeCrisis Member Posts: 68
    edited December 2014

    I haven't been on this site in a while (posting mostly to the fb page) but trying tomget caught up here.

    Erica ... very sorry to hear of your Grandfather. Timing for a loss is never right. Thoughts are with you.

    Cookies ... very, very sorry to you and any others who do not have very supportive husbands/caregivers. It saddens me to hear this. I understand some not wanting tomoick up all the slack but to miss your ppointment?! Ugh. I am very fortunate in this respect .. I also think you should look into any support services your cancer center can provide for you ... from counseling to transportation help (Amer. Cancer Society had a program in many areas to help w/transportation).

    I had my 3rd round of TC on Friday ... so far doing pretty good on my 2nd day out from it but definately in a fog and much less energy than I had the da before (got a wonderful 3mile hike in!). Couldn't have done that today if my life depended on it, but otherwise feeling OK, eating well and limited to no nausea. Here's hoping this is the worst of it.

    Nails were hurting but felt better just before round 3, but are blackening in the corners and very prominent rings, esp. on my thumb nails. MO says it's par for the course. Just hoping they stay on! ugh. I did notice some fuzzy hair gowing back!! I actually can't believe it and am wondering if now that I had another treatment if that will fall out or not. Thakful the folliculitus cleared & pray it doesn't return. I wash w/baby shampoo and have been occassionally putting some tea tree lotion (can't think of the name - common shampoo brand - male name)

    Eyebrows/lashes thinned a little, but nothing truly noticeable.

  • MidLifeCrisis
    MidLifeCrisis Member Posts: 68
    edited December 2014

    whoops, hit submit before I was done ...

    is anyone *not* having the neulasta shot (or any variation of) while on TC? I've heard it's not as "necessary" on a TC regimen because counts don't typically fall as low or as seriously low as with other chemo regimens.

    My blood counts all around have been "perfect" so they said I didn't need it. I'm a little comcerned, especially with so many illnesses all around. Thoughts?? Too late now, but should I have insisted on it?


  • WheelyGirl
    WheelyGirl Member Posts: 181
    edited December 2014

    My counts were really high prior to the first round but within the week my white count was 1000 and neutrophils 0 so my onc ordered the shot for me this round.  I had the shot Friday and no side effects until this evening.  Now having sharp pain/muscle spasms in lower back and just all over aches.  I'm not sure if I will allow the shot next round as this is worse than any chemo side effects so far.  I was on house arrest (couldn't leave the house for 3 days) when the count dropped last time but they sprang right back so not sure if the shot is worth the side effects.

  • MidLifeCrisis
    MidLifeCrisis Member Posts: 68
    edited December 2014

    I did have the neulasta shot after the first two rounds with minimal side effects (thankfully). But my counts before each round were normal so my MO said they nevr would have dipped far enough to have fully recovered like they do each time. I don't know. I don't want toover think it and I'm thrilled to have one less chemical in me, but concerned because it doesn't seem the normal protocol.

  • thrifty1
    thrifty1 Member Posts: 67
    edited December 2014

    Midlifecrises, I had Nuelesta shot 1st round and it sent my wbc critically high. So 2nd round dr skipped it. Then my wbc were almost zero!They were 100 and he wanted them to at least be 1000. So I did 4 straight days of a shot called granix. now I'm 3000. He wants me to do Nuelesta again next time but not looking forward to it because it was also horribly painful for me.

    Still have my eyelashes after 2 rounds of TC.

  • Cookies
    Cookies Member Posts: 41
    edited December 2014

    thank you everyone for your support - we will get into counseling next week - May need a husband-ectomey if things don't change.


    Metta -I am so sorry - my husband is a drinker as well -.he hasn't got plastered in a great while but has 2 glasses of wine per night - if I only had a magic time machine, I would have chosen as spouse with more of my own personality traits - he is the loud, social type that always wants to go out and sleep in - I'm the morning gal who enjoys 1-2 close friends and a good nights rest - his dad treats his mom as if she has a lesser value then himself and it took me 3+ years to even notice - I would like to train my kids to marry someone who treats them right but thus far I haven't done a great job. He has said he would go to counseling with me about my cancer but that they'd better leave him alone about his job and our marriage - think getting the door open with the lead of cancer is a start and I will have to find the strength if things don't change in a year or so to go it on my own - scary - I am sorry for you and please know you are not alone and deserve to be cherished

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