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  • WheelyGirl
    WheelyGirl Member Posts: 181
    edited December 2014

    Sophie14 - I was so tired of the discomfort it was actually a relief to shave it off...it really does feel much better!

  • Cjfishergal
    Cjfishergal Member Posts: 33
    edited December 2014

    I am using non-medicated shampoo - I normally use Head and Shoulders...found out shortly after my first chemo round that I developed little red bumps and sores all over my scalp. Changed shampoo and much better. Although now it's day 13 and my hair has started to fall out. Patchy...no pain, tingly feeling. Yes - I knew it was coming...we all know it is coming. When it happened though - i wasn't as prepared as I thought I would be. Now I am wearing a little kerchief around to stop the falling out.

    Tomorrow I will shave it. Weird to want this...but...I hope my head has a nice shape like you do wheely girl.

    I do have frequent trips to the potty, also on ciprofloxacin...could be that. However, I know I am also drinking way more than I normally do. I'm glad they checked you and no infection. Our bodies need to stay healthy!

    Does anyone else have a sore mouth. What is mean is...my mouth is sore, but no mouth sores. More like gums are sensitive...and some bleeding each time I brush. I use a soft toothbrush...and don't normally bleed when I brush. I guess soft foods for me right now. But then again I can have as much pudding as I want! WOO-HOO! I bought a lemon meringue pudding cup that is amazing. Even though my taste buds are shot...this one tastes great.

    CJ

  • WheelyGirl
    WheelyGirl Member Posts: 181
    edited December 2014

    Cfishergal - I'm really glad my husband was able to shave my head for me...I think it would have been far worse if I had to go to a public place to have it shaved...it really does feel a lot better.

    I had a very sore mouth and numbness in my tongue and lips.  The inside of my mouth felt really strange as well, not sure if that was just because my tongue was numb or not.  That is all pretty much gone now (day 18).  I'm hoping it is not worse for treatment 2 on the 24th.

  • april25
    april25 Member Posts: 772
    edited December 2014

    Oooh, well, I thought I'd escape without a lot of nausea, and I still haven't had a LOT, but finally had my first experience 3rd. day out from 1st. Chemo... I thought I'd just been having that heart-burn feeling, but JUST made it to the bathroom in time! I felt a LOT better afterwards, actually. And then took a zofran!

    So far, no headaches from the zofran, at least... although I've been taking a Tylenol at night just in case of those Neupogen aches. And giving those shots is still a bit freaky, but I'm sure I'll get used to it.

    I've been staying near a bathroom for a number of reasons. I'm not sure if I'm urinating more... just worried that I shouldn't try and keep anything in, just in case maybe I can't, if you know what I mean. I've definitely had diarrhea, but I'm hoping not to have any constipation. I usually don't get that, but a few times in the past has NOT been any fun. ... But I'm thinking of investing in some gentle wipes for down there, at this point! Yeah, TMI! But I guess that's just the name of the game with all this stuff happening!

    It hasn't been terrible so far, but then, it's only day 4!!! Every day is a new "adventure."

  • farmdau56
    farmdau56 Member Posts: 42
    edited December 2014

    WheelyGirl--My mouth/tongue is really sore/sensitive too. Last night had regular tomato sauce and felt like it had hot peppers in it--really burned my mouth, lips. Guess I just need to stay away from acidic stuff. In any case, nothing really tastes good. I also have an on and off sore throat on one side only. Gargling helps, but it just won't go away. Anyone else have a sore throat? How about insomnia? I fall asleep okay but then wake up really early (5:30/6) and just can't fall asleep again. Is is just nerves or is it also a chemo SE? I'm on day 12.

  • WheelyGirl
    WheelyGirl Member Posts: 181
    edited December 2014

    Farmdau56 - I am having a horrible time with insomnia (no sleep at all), Onc originally thought it was steroids but when it didn't improve he prescribed Ambien (which you are only suppose to take for 30 days) the Ambien does help me fall asleep but only allows me about 4-5 hours...better than nothing.  My taste buds are really weird too, most things have no flavor.  I know when it is spicy but still doesn't taste like it use to.  Anyone else have an increase in sense of smell?

  • ThinkingPositive
    ThinkingPositive Member Posts: 834
    edited December 2014

    It sounds like so many of you have had CT Scans, Bone Scans, Pet Scans prior to chemo. Is this the norm? My oncologist said not necessary at this time. I am really nervous about that since I did have one lymph node positve (8mm) with extracapsular extension and grade 3 11mm idc with lyphovascular invasion. My oncologist told me not to focus on that. I had a mastectomy and alnd which showed the one sentinel lymph node positve but 16 negative lymph nodes negative and clear margins of 10mm with the idc.

    Was given two options..ACT or TC...chose TC due to the potential of heart problems with ACT (I have had high blood pressure for about 15 years) so I worry. Now I worry I am not doing the right regimen...always doubting myself and its driving me crazy. Have a tissue expander in and it constantly feels like its swelling up around my boob and under the arm...just getting so discouraged at this point.

  • blueflowers
    blueflowers Member Posts: 46
    edited December 2014

    Hi,

    I just wanted to buzz in and say that I am hanging on to this roller coaster ride. I have a funny taste or no taste in my mouth, no sores yet ( hopefully won't get it) ,Nauseous still. so I am taking compazine,My main SE is body aches, a lot, I can't sit still, can't sleep, maybe I should try tylenol, I am just reluctant to pile in more drugs into the system. On top of that I started to have my periods, which is very annoying, hopefully that stops in 4/5 days .I am also a little chilly, my body temperature is staying below normal, called the doctors office, didn't hear anything from them.

    Hopefully you all do better and enjoy the holidays.

  • farmdau56
    farmdau56 Member Posts: 42
    edited December 2014

    Hi Blueflowers: Try Aleve for the achiness. It really helped me and nurse/onc. said it was okay to take. If you are having trouble sleeping because of aches, you could take an ativan too. Heating pad also helped me a bit. Are you eating enough? If not, could cause you to be chilly. I'm sure staring your period didn't help! All best-

  • Brooklinemon
    Brooklinemon Member Posts: 5
    edited December 2014

    mdg - are you comfortable sharing how you came to the decision to proceed with chemo? I am struggling with this decision, with one onc recommending tam only, and the other recommending chemo. I have stage 1b cancer, 1cm, ER+ PR - HER2 -, micro met in one node. The characteristics of your tumor would support even more strongly bypassing chemo. Thanks.

  • WheelyGirl
    WheelyGirl Member Posts: 181
    edited December 2014

    Did you have the Ocotype test done?

  • WheelyGirl
    WheelyGirl Member Posts: 181
    edited December 2014

    Oops, oncotype test

  • Cjfishergal
    Cjfishergal Member Posts: 33
    edited December 2014

    Hello Everyone - I began loosing my hair quite rapidly over the weekend. I went to the Cross Cancer today and had it shaved. Thankfully my head isn't warped! It feels SO MUCH BETTER!

    They have wigs there that we can borrow - so I did. Feeling good. Swelling is down on my face, nausea is in check, fatigue is better. Could be a direct result of the 3000 mg of meds I'm taking daily! But it's all good. Just in time for the next treatment on the 30th.

    For those of you how may have weirdness happening in their mouth (taste, bumps, sores, dryness) I found that Canada Dry Soda Water helped a lot. I mixed it up with some low calorie cranberry juice (for that Christmas feel) and it's worked wonders. No need to add salt or baking soda - straight out of the can!

    Have a great week for those of you who are in going into their first or second treatment. May your SE's be low and manageable!

    CJ

  • april25
    april25 Member Posts: 772
    edited December 2014

    Cjfishergal -- Congrats on having a nice head-shape! And finding a good wig to wear. That's nice that they have that service.

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    I'm 5 days out from my first treatment... it's a bit worrisome waiting for my hair to start falling out... just wondering when it will happen!

    I thought I'd escape a lot of nausea, but my stomach has been constantly unsettled from day one, so I really don't feel like eating. I'm going to try some of those protein shakes. Hopefully they won't taste awful!

    No fun having my first nadir and possible hair-loss happening around Christmas Day. I'll probably just have to stay in my room and be anti-social. Ah, well. Them's the breaks. Hopefully next year will be better!

    Best wishes to you all going through this! Take good care of yourselves as a present to yourselves, and feel as good as possible!

  • Ilike2smile
    Ilike2smile Member Posts: 6
    edited December 2014

    Hi, I start neoadjuvent chemo tomorrow.  New to all of this.  Learning, researching, reading, & preparing for this year-long journey back to health, balance, and wholeness.  I wish you all peace, kindness, courage, strength, healing, comfort, love...and laughter.  Merry Christmas!

  • WheelyGirl
    WheelyGirl Member Posts: 181
    edited December 2014

    Does this group have a facebook  group?

  • MaggieCat
    MaggieCat Member Posts: 346
    edited December 2014

    Facebook ... message Bonnied ... She posted one page back.

  • sophie14
    sophie14 Member Posts: 44
    edited December 2014

    My dentist told me to use biotene mouth wash regularly. Mix kaopectate and children's benodryl ... one teaspoon of each, mix together, swish in mouth, spit out, for mouth sores. Might work on sore mouth too. Softest tooth brush I could find . I have very sensitive tenth so he told me no baking soda, because for me it would make it worse.

  • leftyloo
    leftyloo Member Posts: 23
    edited December 2014

    hi sophie, i love how medical professionals recommend their patients use such contentious chemicals as polyparabens... which btw, is a listed ingredient of biotene,

    here is some info on parabens... http://paraben.co.uk/

    if you're too tired to read the whole article, the following paragraphs may peak your interest:

    Parabens are chemical compounds based on parahydroxybenzoic acid. These chemicals are typically found in cosmetics, but they may also appear in food items and health care aids. The antimicrobial properties of Parabens make them a popular choice for a wide range of commercial applications; since they kill bacteria in products and their various individual ingredients, they extend the shelf-life and efficacy of a range of products. Every company that uses Parabens in their products must compile detailed lists of ingredients which are printed on jars, boxes, bottles, and other packaging. Luckily, knowing which chemical names to look for helps consumers to avoid these preservatives while stocking up on needed items.

    Pharmaceuticals may also contain Parabens; if you're concerned about your medical prescriptions containing traces of these chemicals, speak to your family doctor about alternatives, and check the monographs of products before you order or refill prescriptions. Certain Parabens are believed to mimic the effect of the hormone, estrogen, which is worrisome for those who fear cancers that are triggered by elevated estrogen levels. Build a relationship with a good doctor, speak to him or her about your fears, and seek out Paraben-free drugs when it's feasible.

    ya - i guess!!!!!!!!!!

    even if it MIGHT be true that these chemicals are contributing to us getting cancer, why the eff are these huge pharmaceutical firms ALLOWED to put these products in our drugstores??? :/


  • WheelyGirl
    WheelyGirl Member Posts: 181
    edited December 2014

    Leftloo - I will be thinking about you Wednesday while having my second round of CT.  What time is your appointment?

  • april25
    april25 Member Posts: 772
    edited December 2014

    Iliketosmile -- You're somewhat similar to my DX and Treatment. I started neoadjuvent TCHP last week. I hope it goes well for you. I felt fine the first day or so, but then got a little stomach-burn, so I was taking acid-blockers once or twice, and slightly nauseous, so am taking Zofran once or twice a day. The stomach issues makes it hard to want to eat enough, but I'm trying to eat gentle foods like protein shakes and egg custard and cottage cheese. It's a little uncomfortable, but not horrible. Definitely check in here with your post-chemo report. I'm curious to know what your experience is with it. Everyone reacts a bit differently!

    Best wishes for the holidays and as easy a chemo as possible, everyone!

  • Luvbug96
    Luvbug96 Member Posts: 4
    edited December 2014

    HI ladies. Had my 2nd TC treatment yesterday, wide awake now. Are the steroids really necessary? What's their purpose.

    Woke up tonight with tingling hands and feet. Took motrin and starting drinking my water, some better now.

    Really really overate yesterday after treatment. I'm blaming the steroids, did it the first treatment as well.

    hair all gone of course

    mouth tenderness and achy gums after 1st tx

    dry nostrils as well

    achy ankles and legs

    really concerned about steroids causing weight gain. I have a nice flat tammy after diep reconstruction and still need to loose about 15 pounds to be 'the ideal weight ' recommended to reduce reoccurance risks

    Love all your posts.


  • CassieCat
    CassieCat Member Posts: 1,257
    edited December 2014

    Peeking in from the August 2014 chemo group...

    Luvbug96, someone in my group suggested Ayr saline gel for dry nostrils and it really helped. I got it at CVS. They have a saline spray too, but the gel was great at night, before bed. If I recall, the steroids help prevent nausea and other side effects. My dosage was way too high at first and by round 5 we had cut it in half and created a way to taper off more gradually, too. It's worth talking to your MO.

    ilike2smile, good luck. :) I just finished what you're about to start. It is doable!

  • leftyloo
    leftyloo Member Posts: 23
    edited December 2014

    thanks, wheely!

    i'm in at 9:30 am - good luck to you, too!


  • leftyloo
    leftyloo Member Posts: 23
    edited December 2014

    Luvbug96

    i asked an onc what they are for today. the onc said that it is very important to take because of the bad swelling of our bodies that can happen as a result of the chemo drugs. he said that if i really don't want to take as much as prescribed, take them the night before with dinner, then before the treatment... as long as i take them before the treatment is the main thing.

  • Cjfishergal
    Cjfishergal Member Posts: 33
    edited December 2014

    april25 - day 5 was the worst for me. sore body, aches, tingling toes...nausea. Good news is that is passed within two days or so. Rest up! Enjoy the Christmas movies on TV/Netflix.


    I didn't have too much problem with the steroids...thankfully. Sleeping hasn't been a good part of my life since diagnosis. Had blood work yesterday - neutrophils are up to 1.3 from 0.1!

  • april25
    april25 Member Posts: 772
    edited December 2014

    Cjfishergal -- Thanks for the info. I certainly hope it gets better... I've got on-and-off stomach cramps, even with the meds. No actual nausea, but just a stomach-ache that only goes away for brief periods and makes me not want to put anything in it. ...And yeah, now stuff isn't tasting so good either. I have a plate of apple slices here and don't feel like eating them. I know I need to eat proteins and keep hydrated, but it's very difficult. I just want to curl up and maybe sleep if I can.

    Other aches aren't so bad. I've been taking zyrtec and tylenol at night when I do the Neuopogen shots. I do feel some slight twinges in weird parts of my body-- hips and thigh-bones? and on my upper back. And might be starting to feel something up with my hair, since the back of my scalp sometimes feels a bit odd... kind of tingly... not exactly sensitive, but something different than usual.

    Again, it's not horrible, but I definitely feel sick, like cold/flu sick. I usually have a caste-iron stomach even with the real flu, so this is very different for me. Ah, well.

  • Cjfishergal
    Cjfishergal Member Posts: 33
    edited December 2014

    It will get better - so many of us have been there - and we are making it through.

    I too had tummy cramps and couple bouts of diarrhea - this too shall pass. For me - nothing tasted very good at all. Nothing. I ate crackers, toast with honey and the odd bowl of plain rice. All things I normally stay away from. Carbs are my worst enemy - straight to my thighs kind of enemy. But - you eat what you can. During day 4 to day 8 - i ate probiotic yogurt with my meds and crackers and lots of ginger ale. Go with the flow...

    And if you feel like going to bed - go. If you feel like not doing anything - then don't. If you feel like ice cream for dinner - eat ice cream! BC is your "get out of doing or do whatever you want card." Chemo is hard - but we are survivors...fighters. Our bodies are fighting right now. I picture tiny little gladiators fighting my fight...corny...yeah sure. But it's working for me.

    The tingling I had too - started in the front and moved all around. Chemo attacks fast growing/reproducing cells. Your hair follicles are these type of cells precisely. So I thought...when I sat up from the couch and say a clump of my hair laying there - HOLY EFF!! After the shock and yeah sadness - the chemo is working and fighting the fight.

    CJ


  • WheelyGirl
    WheelyGirl Member Posts: 181
    edited December 2014

    Lefyloo - I am on at 8:30 and had to call the office yesterday, they forgot to call in the prescription for the steroid...glad I remembered.

  • april25
    april25 Member Posts: 772
    edited December 2014

    leftyloo and WheelyGirl -- Have a good 2nd chemo day!


    ---I took a tylenol and feel a bit better. I'll have to watch to see if I'm taking too many of those things, tough... don't want to mess with my liver...

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