Can we have a forum for "older" people with bc?
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Chevy, so glad you have a new car...now you don't have to continue to drive your Fred Flintstone car. That will save your feet. You DID have to use them to propel the car like Fred did, didn't you?
Puffin, your story made me think of white elephant games I've participated in. They were quite popular while we were on active duty in the Air Force. We moved often so we were able to "re-gift" previous white elephants without anyone noticing. The best one I ever got was a fake Tiffany lamp in avocado green that had presided over someone's table 20 years before. People have different definitions of a white elephant party. I just went to one a week ago where the hostess had said we should, "spend no more than $10." Spend? I thought a white elephant was something you already had, probably something someone gave you that you had no use for. Preferably it is something you would be embarrassed to re-gift. At this party, people brought bottles of wine, a bottle of whiskey, candles, and lots of other new things that were all "good", not white elephants. Fortunately the two things I brought (a particularly tacky Christ-moose wreath someone gave me and a nice box of stationery and matching pen) were appreciated. I think the games with really funny things are best. The stealing gets out of hand and the laughs get louder.
My head is clearer today but the pain in my upper abdomen is fierce when I move. Whoever said the donor site for fat grafting would hurt didn't use the right word. I holler, "chit" when I make it to my feet. It's darn painful, even with my trusty Tylenol. Getting up is a big challenge since I can't use my left arm yet, and my abs are off limits for a week or two. I've been trying to lean on my cane and standing without using anything but my legs and right arm. It's a skill I haven't managed yet, but it's only day 2 post-op. About the time I have it figured out, I'll be able to use my abs.
Mike is resting. He is a bit grouchy but that's because he has a mysterious possibly serious malady hanging over his head. At least with my cancer, it could be identified quickly. He's been through so many test since last Wednesday, all negative or inconclusive. Maybe the labs that are working with his bone marrow samples will perform a miracle and get results to his doctor in spite of Christmas short staffing and closures.
Thank you for the well wishes. It is really, truly helpful. Time for another nap.
P.S. The picture of hugging orange kitties was adorable.
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Puffin,
Safe trip to you and enjoy, enjoy, enjoy. We did a white elephant where I worked at the realty company. It was always great fun. Our boss always said -- bring something you would not mind having -- just in case you end up with it back as has happened in the past.
I almost envy you your bird watching -- I do cat/kitten watching and have to do it on a daily basis, but I do love seeing them. The new little ones growl and spit sometimes and the older, experienced ones just look at them like -- ok, you'll learn how it all works soon.
The gray here is not fun, but at least it is not dark gray as it has been through this long period of no or extremely little sun. I really do need to remember ( there are usually so many other things ) to look for those special bulbs. Sigh !!!
Hope you are all going to have a great Sunday.
Jackie
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Nothing to share except for the fact that I don't think I've ever been so much in the present moment. My friend Diane said BC was in a way the best thing that happened to her as it made her slow down and get her life in balance. I'm trying to look at it that way (especially as my drains are talking back this morning!)
Am sitting on the sofa between my 2 precious doggies listening to them make sleepy sounds. I am so cry grateful for my Jeff husband of 37 years who is taking such wonderful care of me in this recovery. I am so appreciative of you amazing ladies who inspire me and have made me already feel apart of a community that cares for each other so deeply. Gentle hugs to all!
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Cloesmom/Susan,
Your friend Diane was/is so right. BC is an awful thing, and maybe just because of those terrible lost and can't find my ways moments, minutes, hours life suddenly veers onto a different level. At some point and not even quite knowing when that was, you find that you are wondering/challenging just why you were so out of focus. How you could have failed to see and experience your life and yourself --- and if your really fortunate as I think so many of us are --- you realize that what just happened could have cost your life, and the least you could do is really be aware of that life, wholly and fully, I still work at it, because I was existing mainly while I was calling it living. Gotten to the point of rote responses -- all alike -- going through one day not bothering to look at it and feel it, because I knew the next day was going to just exactly the same.
Though I'd hardly recommend it, this diagnosis has a way of whipping you in shape. I am not sure just what else may have got me where I am now, but it was cancer that did it. It taught me ( even if the hard way ) a lot of respect for roses. I don't want to ever lose that respect again.
Blessings,
Jackie
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I LOVE roses. Had 3 dozen bushes at my house before we moved. Only have 15 now. Yellow is my favorite. This year I didn't nurture them like usual. Got too busy with work! Not anymore!
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I am a rose lover as well. It was one of my mother's favorite flowers. It was also my mother leaving California where she had relocated after my sister and I grew up and left home that brought me back home here. After she left California, it no longer felt like home. Something kept urging me the minute her car got across the California border I think ( guardian spirits I'm sure ) to come back home though I had lived in California by then for 25 yrs.
I'm glad I listened. By the time we got back here my Mom had already been back home here for 6 months. She only lived another yr. and a half. After she passed away I realized why the message urging me to come back home too had been so strong and persistent. Those beautiful loving, caring spirits knew what I didn't -- and our move home must have been helped. It only took 6 mos. total, to sell our little retirement mobile home, buy a better car, and a cab-over camper for our truck, and set up a moving company and contract that was quite fair to us. We also bought my disabled son a sm. mobile and found him a park.
My mother, ( first woman in the family ) had C.O.P.D. and that is what took her. She started running ten K races at about age 55 and winning a lot of them. In fact, because it was a hospital charity...she often when she was older entered -- though they seldom had her age bracket. She still kept winning. Though she could not do it ( double drat ) she was nominated to carry the Olympic Torch in Los Angeles. She was I think in her mid 60's then.
Her health problem was not diagnosed ( don't know how all those California Dr.'s kept missing it ) until she moved back here and Dh and I were here then. We went with her over to the big teaching hospital in St. Louis, Mo. She, by that time had less than a yr. to live. It was my privilege and total joy to help her those last months though no one knew ( so many C.O.P.D. people can go for about 5 yrs. ) that time would be so short. Even she did not know. I'm sure in many ways that was the best for all. What a blessing those months were and I am still so full of gratitude and love for the fact that I did pay attention and did come home to share a very precious time with a mother that was so very much to me. I miss her every day but I know where she is and feel she often intercedes on my behalf. So, at this time, (she passed in 98' ) most of my remembrances are those full of happy hours spent with a woman who loved me dearly and showed it always. She resides at the top of the list of the best things that ever happened to me. My Dad who passed at from Parkinson's at 83 is also on that list. \
Well now, don't ever say I can't get up the microphone and babble away so I can stay there. This is all to say that my mother's love of roses are why I have rose avatars. I have a lot of them and go in big spurts of changing them. On occasion I have to known to stick in a kitty or even one of my dogs --- but most of the time it is roses.
See you all later.
Jackie
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Hi everyone!
Carole, you don't have to worry about the economy. I helped it out this year. I didn't realize how much I had bought until I got out the tubs to transport the packages and we packed three of them! (Two of the large sacks were birthday presents for my two oldest grandsons so that didn't make it seem quite so bad.
Tomorrow I'm having lunch with my neighbor lady and working on getting our clothes packed for our Christmas trip because we want to be on the road EARLY Tuesday morning.
Joan, I do think you need a kitten to keep you company...especially after all these cute kitten pictures that are being posted. :-)
Travel safely, Puffin! My son lived in Deerwood for several years so I'm well acquainted with the Brainerd area. It's lovely up there!
Oh Sandra, I'm sending healing vibes to both you and your hubby! I hope you can enjoy the holiday!
Chloesmom....I think my cancer experience made me much more compassionate and willing to reach out to others who are having hard times. I guess I'm just not as self-centered as I once was! It was a tough way to learn that lesson but just one of the good things that came out of my cancer diagnosis....not to mention all the wonderful people I have met on this thread and in many other ways.
I hope to log on again tomorrow before we take off. I hope everyone enjoyed your Sunday!
Rita
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Puffin, I'm familiar with Brainerd, too, but I know it will look MUCH different now than during the summer. Hope you enjoy your Christmas visiting with family.
Sandra, I winced as I read your description of the difficulty in getting up out of a chair. Memory came back of how excruciating it was to get up out of bed those first few days after surgery. I didn't get up to go to the bathroom until it was very necessary.
The holiday sugar addiction is well on its way. I ate home-made Italian cookies today that were a gift to my mother. I ate fudge, a gift to my sister that she shared. Tonight I ate oatmeal chocolate chip cookies with a cup of hot tea. DH made batches and batches of the latter. I have packaged up most of them and they have been distributed to the neighbors. Normally I avoid sugary food but holidays are full of temptation.
Tomorrow dh and I are driving to Biloxi on the MS Gulf Coast to have lunch with a BC.org friend on another thread. She and her dh live near St. Louis and are spending the Christmas holidays on the Gulf Coast and in New Orleans.
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Chloesmom - sitting between two lovely dogs and knowing your husband cares is such a delightful way to describe "the present." I sure agree that BC makes small pleasures so much more evident in our lives.
Chevy - nothing like a new car
to make going for a drive fun. I'll be you smile each time you slide into the front seat and get behind the wheel. Happy for you. Just don't put that pedal to the metal all the time. And watch those mirrors. I just bashed the outside drivers side mirror off my car backing into the garage. Luckily a fellow at the auto parts store here at the lake can order one, paint it and get it on my car for me. His rate per hour is lots less than at an auto dealership! It's reverse that always gets me.The week after I got back from Texas was so hectic I wasn't even doing email or or this lovely discussion board. Between laundry, lunch with friends , babysitting grandkids, hair appointment, dr appointment, and helping at the hospital giftshop I was mighty bushed. My surgeon was sneaky. She offered me this cute little calendar for my purse and said it's so nice because it has this handy checklist inside. Bottom line is I'm now to be scheduled for a colonoscopy since I've never had the pleasure. Also found I need to have a new crown from the dentist
, not a prince, and possibly root canal work. You can see it was quite a week. Sunday I traveled to St Charles IL to see that old boyfriend again. I've enjoyed seeing him again at his house and talking on the phone, This is pretty amazing after not being in touch for 45 years. This time I had one of those gizmos that lets you drive past the toll booths and pay automatically from an account that is set up. It saves stopping at each booth and the cost is half price
. I was feeing pretty smart. I am not adding the all blue print and underline to the words like "new car", "dentist" and "half-price". This computer is doing that on it's own!!! Tomorrow I am the guest reader in my grandson's first grade class. I'm supposed to let them know how reading has been an important thing in my life for fun or work and then read a story. Since the Christmas program is coming up later in the afternoon I'm reading Twas the Night Before Christmas in one of those books that has pictures that pop up I'm 3D. I'm so please he choose me as his special reader since he only gets to do that once a year.
Whoever said white elephant gifts can be interpreted in many different ways was SOOO right. I've usually thought it was something still useful but no longer needed at my house or no longer fits the decor. But one time I got a bunch of coupons for groceries that were expired. Clearly that lady had a different idea about white elephant. We did it at a party at my house this year with old office friends. Some velvet fur trimmed sexy nightgown has often appeared at some point with lots of laughter when the gift wrap reveals it is inside. This year it was the first gift opened and the hysteria almost blew the windows out.
I'm hoping we all have a holiday that feels happy and relaxing. I know some will feel healthier than others. But this group is surely evidence that recovering from BC happens and love and laughter return. Sandra, praying for Mike as you two figure out this problem. Let us now about how he is doing when you feel like it. Thanks again for coming to lunch in Texas.
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Sandra - so glad you and hubby are home, even if you are still in the waiting game. Fat grafting was brutal for me and I was bruised for about a month. Having the divots filled in was worth it though.
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OH NOOOOOOOOOOO! Cammi! Did you see THAT?????????? She went and met up with that felon-person again! The one we had so much trouble with beFORE! Or was it HER we had trubble with? Trying to keep her from going, and being attacked?
She sure brushed off this LAST meeting, didn't she? I mean hardly even mentioned it! Like it was an after-thought! She must be safe though.... And I can tell she is smiling! You know what THAT means, don't you? It means he must have been nice to her, and didn't pillage her.
We have to keep her aware of this impending happenings that could happen. She is going off all willy-nilly, without a care in the world, but seeming to come home safe and sound... We must monitor this situation.
Meemers needs supervision I think. And we are just the ones to DO it... I mean if any of us can ever FIND you!
Where ARE you Cammi? I don't want to think of you being sickly or something... Just maybe over-worked... and THAT's a stretch...
But Meemers, you talk about the books, that have pop-up pictures! Did you see the Carbonaro Effect, where that Magician opens up one of those books and opens the little box.... and takes out a little glass jar, with a gold-fish in it? It was hysterical! That show is on TruTV, and Michael Carbonaro is this young magician, and his shows are just fun to watch! He poses as cashiers, etc, and talks to these customers, and always does tricks, and scares some of them 1/2 to death! It is funny!
Morning Teacher... Sorry you had a rough time... Geez, the things you gals have to go through...
And good Morning to everyone else! Going to grab another cup of coffee! Snowed last night... but looks clear out right now! xoxoxo
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Mimi: good to hear from you, have missed you, sorry for the dental issues, crowns are SOOO expensive, I lost a chunk of a tooth this week and thought I'd need a crown but got by with replacing the filling one more time
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Happiness blooms in the presence of self-respect and the absence of ego. Love yourself. Love everyone around you.
Love everyone in the whole world. Know that your own life is of infinite importance, as is every other life.
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What a wonderful note for us Mimi. I was hanging on every word. I'm saying hi to Cammie and Blondie and all those who don't get to post as much as some of us do. My computer ( especially on the really yucky days ) is my very best friend and I stay far too close, far too long -- while the world at large and my housework just drift in place. I'll have to do better somehow --- just have to decide which one I actually want to do BETTER with.\
I got up ( just a tad late by 1/2 hour ) to a light rain. I think in the main it will do this all day -- never a pour-down, just a slower consistent wetting. Of course, I wouldn't so mind the rain -- better than snow right now for sure, but that means another REALLY gray day which is fairly un-desirable for me. I need my natural Vitamin D which comes direct from the sun.
The graphic of the dog at the diner getting coffee made me laugh. Since I was up late -- I didn't get my two cups and had to do my morning chores after only one......and I tried to rush through the chores just to get to that second soooo needed cup. One in the a.m. just starting out is far too skimpy for me and I am surprised I managed to actually move at all.
Hope your all going to have a fantastic day. I'll be back later.
Blessings,
Jackie
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My daughter arrived from Chicago and is happily running errands and doing light housework. I'm always glad to see Allison but especially so this time since Mike will run himself ragged if he's not scolded. He feels better after getting the blood transfusion in the hospital but his hemoglobin is still way too low (8) and he's in danger of another collapse. Stubborn man says that happened when he was at a 6 last week so he is fine this week. I'm tired of fighting. Allison can take over.
I'm doing 50% better than yesterday. This fat grafting business isn't all that bad now at 3 days post op.(Ha ha, I'm not shouting "CHIT" when I stand up anymore.) I have little scattered one stitch spots all over my abdomen and chest - the donor sites and grafting sites. I have a 4 inch incision on my side from removal of my "mud flap" that goes around to my back. I don't feel a thing. My plastic surgeon injects a wonderful drug into the incisions called Exparel. It foams up and bathes the area in pain relief for 72-96 hours. Hopefully it will still keep me comfortable for another day.
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This is Chevy and Cami riding to the rescue of our own Mimi, who is carrying on a clandestine affair with an old lover out in the woods somewhere!
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Hi ladies you seem to have a good conversation going. I am 78 and just a couple of weeks out of surgery (lumpectomy +
sentinel node and axial excision - not much fun as the wound burst and seroma flowed out for 10 days). Anyone else my age? What can I expect now? Have not had the radiotherapy yet but am on Femara. Any advice welcome.
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I've been laughing my substantial @#& off watching these two songs. I think someone (Chevy?) shared the first one about older ladies earlier in the year, but it's worth watching again. The second one is for all the wrinkled ladies. Woo Hoo! Let's have some FUN.
http://www.metaspoon.com/older-ladies-donnalou/?fb
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCvHgppVey4
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Hi gemmafromlondon and welcome to our thread. I am so sorry that you had some complications from your surgery but am glad to hear you are doing better. It sounds like you still have to do radiation. They will probably wait until they are sure that you are healed up. I didn't have any problems with the radiation. I went everyday except weekends and it really took longer to get undressed than it did for the radiation treatment. The treatment itself is painless but you have to pamper your skin to keep it from burning. They give you creams for that. Some gals complain about fatigue near the end of the radiation treatments but I even escaped that.
Come and join us often. There is always somebody here who can lighten your spirit or offer suggestions to make your journey easier.
I am packed except for the last minute things and we are hoping to pull out early tomorrow and get ahead of the snow they are predicting. My DIL just called to say that my son was home sick all day today with cold symptoms and a fever. I guess she wanted to let us know what we are walking into tomorrow! Hopefully he will be feelling better tomorrow and everyone else can escape it.
Since I am not taking my computer and since I have a terrible time posting from my phone, I probably won't be back on until we get back home after Christmas. I want to wish each and everyone of you fantastic gals a very Merry Christmas and a very happy and healthy 2015. For those of you who are traveling, drive carefully!
Rita
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Welcome Gemma. I'm sorry your circumstances brought you here, but it's a great place to make friends, vent, and share concerns, info etc.
I am 66-was diagnosed in August and have had lumpectomy and radiation. I may or may not take a hormone blocker-that will be decided next month.
Radiation was uneventful for me, but everyone seems to have different experiences and reactions. I suggest browsing several topics at BCO. The potential to learn and to connect with others in the same leaky boat is endless.
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gemma ,
Welcome to you. Glad that your surgery is behind you but sorry you had some problems with it. I hope with that the worst is behind you. As Rita mentioned, usually the radiation goes fairly well for most. You will need to heal up well before your radiation.
Usually there is always someone here to chat with and we are mainly light-hearted, but can be very serious too. I hope you will come often.
Jackie
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Welcome Gemma, I'm 63, had lumpectomy, chemo and radiation, finished on Halloween and now taking an estrogen blocker. My skin got a little pink and tingly from the radiation, had occasional brief shooting pains thru my breast but overall got through radiation pretty well. With the node removal you're at risk for lymphedema in that arm, so no IV's, blood pressures or injury to that arm. Check with your doctor about how much activity you can and should be doing with it, and whether you should be seeing a physical therapist who specializes in lymphedema. It's better to prevent lymphedema than to have to deal with it.
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Welcome Gemma and MagicalBean - I'm 67 and exactly one year and two days ago was my surgery. Then the radiation. I was luckier than you, Gemma, with the healing process, but believe in a year you will have this ugly problem behind you. Then you will be able to laugh and joke with us as we put life in perspective.
Chevy - there's no slipping something by you. I'm glad you can tell I'm smiling even though you are a long way away. I love love love the picture of Chevy and Cami on their way to find me. Good to know I'm safe if I need help! (Gemma et al this is a long standing joke because I am a widow who has recently renewed a friendship with a former high school/college boyfriend after 45 years.) The picture had me laughing loudly so my giant Peggy dog jumped up to see what was happening. Sandra you are amazing still maintaining your sense of humor even though it sounds like you look as if you were shot with a shotgun and have buckshot wounds all over your chest and abdomen.
About Peggy Dog: researching golden retrievers my son-in-law found that the standard height for female was 20-22 inches, males 24-25. Peggy stands tall at 27" at her shoulders. It's nice that I can stand up straight and hold on to her collar for a cane if I ever need to. She does take up a lot of room in my been and pushes hard against me.
Reading in the classroom was wonderful today. I gave the poem Night Before Christmas as much gusto as I could and the pop-up pictures were beautiful. The kids oood and aaad as if they were fireworks on the 4th of July. It made this granny (Mimi) feel good. (The grandkids call me Mimi.) Besides reading to the class, the guest reader is supposed to explain what reading has done to help me in my job as a clown. Good grief, the old teacher in me just popped right out. I sure had fun. And the Christmas music the whole school assembly sang together was great fun, too.
Tomorrow is a busy day. Grocery shopping, a few gifts to wrap, and then work at the restaurant clowning around. The biggest problem is I'm at the lake and will have to drive 1.5 hours to get to the restaurant and then the same back here. But my son, DIL and grandson will be here when I get home about 10:00. Three hours driving for a three hour job is crazy. But the job is every week and I don't want to loose it. Since I cancelled to go to Texas I figure I better be there tomorrow night. And it could be a busy night if mom's don't want to cook. Kids under 10 eat free on Tuesdays; thus the clown doing face painting tomorrow night. Balloons next week.
I'll probably check in here on Christmas Eve and Christmas day since I'll be alone with Peggy part of the time. No need for us chicks to go it alone. Write a post and I'll be you'll get a reply from some beautiful woman over 60. Night all.
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Hey Sandra - glad your surgeries are all over. I sure hope that your hubby's health problems turn out to be minor ones and easily resolved.
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Mimi dont b scared of them the batteries will probably run out b4 they get 2 u..u just keep smiling n post a pix of the c2 of u..
Sandra, love, love,love that dd is there relax n let her take care of u
Hi jackie, chevy, cammie, mimi, rita sandra,
And all others i 4got..
Merry early Christmas
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Oh again I'm way way behind, my behind shows it too. Wow some new people I want to welcome, but of course sorry u'r here, but these ladies are wonderful and u;ll be right at home here before u know it.
I've felt so busy with work and shopping and wrapping and little stuff, I feel guilty cuz I really don't do that much but to me it's a lot.
OK Mimi again u pulled a St. Charles on Chevy and me and Chevy St.harles is about 15 minutes from where I live and BTW it is very pretty there. but what do we know about this MAN--being a man is strike one, now what else don't we know.?
Gemma Chevy is like u'r age and she's just as sprite as anyone can be. And since she has a new car, she thinks she's going to pick up a better class of men for her job that she still does. HA it won't happen Chevy. She's a semi -pro, 1/2 retired but hlf still works so she's still trying to make a couple of bucks
Sandra I'm so glad u'r DD is with u now and hope u DH's numbers go up.
Hey Bondie, Teka and Jackie and of course Carole--U gals keep things up and going all the time.
Rita have a safe trip, and hoping any one traveling will have one.
have not caught up on all the posts, so if I'm missing something new I'm so sorry.
I have to finish wrapping tomorrow and fry sweet peppers too. So I hope I'm not busy workng to much cuz everything takes me longer, we know how lazy I am. We're having SIL's family here for Christmas Eve and my goofy kids even clean closets, they're nuts. I just keep my door closed, good enough for me. The next day we go to my nieces's with my sister and we love that, that's what my peppers are for. LOL I don't make them often any more so I hope they turn out good.
OK I should get myself to sleep, somedays that's about all I do--I don't know why I can't tonite.
Many Hugs for everyone.
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I never thought of doing this.
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Jackie would not like our weather today. It's gray and damp outside. The forecast is for 70 to 80 percent chance of rain with a rain of bad storms. Not cold, though. Highs in the 70's today.
I told dh last night that I would go to the gym with him this morning. Turns out it was a lie! I just couldn't get out of bed that early. So he went by himself. I haven't worked out since I got this nasty sinus/cold affliction. It's gradually getting better but hangs on. I'm so tired of blowing my nose. Hopefully, this too will pass.
I intend to make a grocery list today and go to the supermarket to buy ingredients I need for dishes I plan to make for Christmas dinner. My mother has a hair apptment at 1 pm but we'll probably have to cancel it because of the weather.
Happy Tuesday to all.
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Respect yourself.
Respect others.
Act honorably.Jonathan Lockwood Huie
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