DIEP 2014
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Thanks LAstar. I feel better now.
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Wintersocks,
I know it is already Monday in the UK, so thinking of you! xxx
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Got the phone call from the scheduler today. My DIEP is scheduled for Thursday, February 12, 2015. We will be gone most of January on an RV vacation, so I hopefully be distracted by the fun and sun.
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Who is doing the DIEP 2015 thread? I can't seem to find it.
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https://community.breastcancer.org/forum/44/topic/...
I started one. Here it is. Not very active as yet, but I'll put your date up ok?
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Thinking of you wintersocks! You will do well. I'm 6 days out from my Diep (Dec. 10). Yesterday was rough. Was discharged from the hospital on Sat. Post op I felt good. I had very good pain control. Was walking frequently. Since yesterday my left breast has been very painful. I can't seem to get ahead of the pain. I still walk frequently, but short distances. Its frustrating cause I hear many are walking 1-2 miles already by this point. My issue is lower back spasms, very painful. Just started on muscle relaxant, I hope that will help so I can get more active. Have been told by many in the hospital that the breasts look great. I can't quite see that yet. Did anyone else have these issues and did they resolve pretty quickly? Especially the breast swelling with pain? Thank you for all your well wishes. Good luck to those who will soon have surgery. Quick easy recovery to those who have already had surgery. Honestly, even with some of the issues I've been having, it is very doable. Not nearly as bad as our minds have us think.
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Caligirl,
Be patient, it's early! Everyone progresses at their own pace. I had the lower back pain but it occurred less and less as time went on. I'm 5 weeks out tomorrow and just started back to work, so of course it's bothering me a little again but your body has to "rebalance" itself, sort of.
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Hey, Caligirl - so far, so good! My DIEP was Dec. 8 and I, too, had the lower (left) back pain - I think from walking hunched over the first few days. I'm walking and moving pretty normally now but still don't stretch (had to catch myself in the shower when I washed my hair and started to lean back to rinse). I saw the surgeon yesterday and he removed the four drains - yay! I'm free now till January 14 when we'll figure out what else needs to be done - which will be fat grafting from my thighs and hips - another yay!
He cautioned me about any heavy lifting and I've been being very careful but think I pulled a muscle right in the middle of my stomach yesterday - of all things, while I was scooping dog kibble from the storage bin. Dumb! So I'll be careful for the next few days - it just hurts a little when I move but I can't see or feel any lump or bump.
Hope you're doing okay, wintersocks - and good luck to all the others with procedures this month. I think most everybody else is involved in various Stage 2 procedures, right?
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Caligirl- I think your trying to do too much? This is phase 1, correct? If it is, don't push yourself so much. Listin to your body. I think yours is telling you to sit down. At six days I would think light walking around the house is OK but much more is putting too much stress on your back and stomach. You don't want to open up any of your insisions. JMHO.
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I agree -- walking 2 miles on day 6 after Stage 1 is A LOT. I was taking some slow walks with frequent rests at that point, and then I would sleep for HOURS afterward. And I would say that only a small percentage can get out for walks at all the first week. Pushing too hard could set you back. Your stamina will return but it comes slowly. You sounds strong and I think you will have a quicker recovery than most!
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hi ladies
I think our bodies all do this somewhat differently. I have been able to go for walks most days since my phase 1 on December 10th but then I will have a day like today, where all I have done is showered and washed my hair and then slept most the day and still feel wiped out.
I am so jealous of those who go right home. I am here in NOLA until Thursday morning when I fly home after my week post op tomorrow. I have walked a few miles since surgery but because I am not home that is ALL I can do. It is my only way of getting out of the hotel which makes me stir crazy.
I think just resting when our bodies say "I am tired" and walking or doing stuff around the house if you have the energy is all ok. I am getting this is gonna take awhile. And patience is not my strongest suit. Wintersocks I am eager to hear from you. To everyone else, it is so helpful knowing I am doing this with you and we can get through it and I think this summer I will be feeling good about it all.
I hope so. 😊
Julieho
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One year ago I had bmx, t-Rex arms, but no more cancer. Now, I am complete again. What a difference a year makes
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Thanks for all your replies. You are right, i'm trying to do to much too soon.
Norita19: Glad to hear you are well enough to go back to work. Yes you are right about having to re-balance. I will try and be patient. Its just that I have never experienced back pain this bad.
SaltyJack: Im sorry about your pulled muscle. Remember to take care of yourself. Its good to hear you are doing well otherwise.
Sacnaillady: Yes this is phase one. you are right about listening to your body. Ive been trying to be mindful of that. Im having alot of pain in my left breast. Could it be from the drains? I have 2 on that side. Its also more swollen than the right one. Did you experience that?
LAstar: Thank you. I have to remember that. I would hate to have a setback. I see my PS on Thursday for my post-op. I'm hoping to get some of these pesky drains out. I have 5 drains.
Julieho: Happy to hear you are up and about since surgery. It sure does wipe you out! Hope you have a safe trip home. You will feel better once you are in your own environment. Are you having any pain issues?
Teacher64: Glad to hear you are feeling good 1 year out. It gives us newbies hope that we can one day put this all behind us!
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hi Caligirl! The only drain pain I had was superficial around where the drain went in. If it's deep in your flap I'd call the Dr.
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calligirl my right Breast has two drains and is definitely more swollen than the left. I am thinking chest drains (3) will come out at my one week post op today. Haven't had a lot of output on those. Hips are still draining a fair amount.
I fly home at 4 AM tomorrow morning. Two flights. I anticipate that will wipe me out but I amSO happy to go home and see my doggies and my own bed and some of my kids.
I am having a fair amount of surgical pain. Left Breast hurts most and I am having a hard time balancing pain meds with wanting to be less foggy overall.
I so need to hear this will heal and all be behind me. Feeling a bit like I wish I hadn't done it right now. Especially the diep of having another stage 2 surgery in several months. But I need to stay in my day and I am better today than I was a week ago at this time...which was in the middle of phase 1 surgery. 😊
Hoping all are well. Calli you and I share surgery dates so we can try to cheer each other on.
Just so you know the last few days I didn't walk a mile or even close. Just a few short walks outside to get fresh air. Just been too tired.
Take care all
Julieho
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Hi all, I have not posted in awhile, I pop in and read every now and again. I am 13 weeks post phase 1 and for those of you fresh out of surgery it does get better. I remember being in a funk around week 3-4 post surgery and this site helped me see that was normal. Happy healing to all recovering and positive thoughts for those waiting for upcoming surgeries.
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Checking in! Four weeks out now after Stage 2 surgery. Here's what I have noticed. I think my expectations were that Stage 2 would be "no big deal," especially compared to Stage 1. So I think I was surprised by the amount of pain. Even now, four weeks later, my thighs are still sore from the lipo. There are divots where she extracted the fat for grafting. My DIEP breast gained in volume but is still slightly smaller than my healthy breast, overall shape pretty good. My healthy breast, which got a lift, is still tender around the incisions and is quite painful when my nipple gets erect (lots of cold weather here in Kansas!). Abdominal scar is pretty good, just a little tightness. Upper abdomen (above belly button) occasionally sore--she took some fat from there. I find my shoulders and back are so tense because I am reluctant to move freely and stretch, so I think i need to work on this now. Will get back to exercising. I am wondering at what point I will be fully recovered and have a sense of what I will be living with from now on, in terms of pain, tightness, numbness, and other sensations. I don't know if any long-timers are still posting here, but I would appreciate hearing what that is like for you now.
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Hello Girls,
I am home and without any drains the last one being pulled yesterday. I got back about 7 this evening. Have shown the new boob to a friend and she is completely amazed. I am in some pain on the long scar and quite a bit of pain where the drains were 'super abdominal' I think the nurse called them.
I will write more tomorrow as I am whacked now. Nor sure what I think of the whole thing, I will need some time to gather my thoughts.
I hope all are well. xx
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Thanks very much, PZ - I really appreciate the insight about longer term and Stage 2. Good luck with the rest of the healing and figuring out what the new normal is. I just had Stage 1 last Monday (December 8) and so far am amazed at how little pain I'm having. Yep, when I sit up from lying down in bed it hurts but otherwise, it's just a little ache now and then. Of course, I'm moving slowly and taking it easy - the not lifting is the hardest part (I went grocery shopping today and carried everything into the house pretty much one thing at a time).
Great to hear from you wintersocks. I was so glad to get my 4 drains out Monday (which was 3 days after I came home from the hospital and a week after surgery - I had drains in for over 2 weeks after my MX so never expected to be free so quickly!)
I'm already thinking that I'm soooo glad I had the surgery. My breast is nothing like a finished product but already it's not the flat, ugly "I had cancer" breast I've been used to for the past 10 months. As some of the others have said, it's kind of like moving on and putting the BC journey behind me. It's all good, right? What are you thinking, Julie and Calli?
Have a wonderful weekend, ladies - thanks for being there.
Bev
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perzercher - my reaction to stage 2 was similar. It was a good 6-7 weeks for things to subside because the bruising from the grafting was brutal for me. (I bruised very easily and extensively with each surgery.) At about six months post DIEP, I felt my life was back to normal. It has been one year since bmx and I'm forgetting details and have had to refer to my journal and calendar when assisting someone beginning her journey. I can do just about everything but occasionally feel tightness across my chest after a strenuous workout. I am still gaining upper body strength and am not where I was prior to beginning this marathon. I crossed the finish line and got my tattoos and see myself as complete. A year ago, I had just been home a few hours after the bmx with t-Rex arms, four drains, and the horrible expanders. My life is truly blessed now.
These are flowers my PS sent me today and he said I've been an inspiration to other patients of his. I am blessed
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Wow Teacher! I've never heard of a PS sending flowers to a patient. You're optimistic attitude must be contagious. I'm so glad to hear that you're in such a happy place.
Winter - Welcome home. Don't worry too much about what you think about the whole thing. Things change by the hour - so the way you feel today isn't the way you'll feel tomorrow. And the way you feel this weekend isn't the way you'll be feeling next weekend. Just take care of yourself, eat lots of protien and let it evolve.
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pzerxher....you echo my thoughts exactly. The biggest thing that has changed in my life since DIEP is my overwhelming need for additional sleep at night. I don't take naps during the day, but I am sleeping in anywhere from 1-4 hours later each morning. This is incredible for me, since I have horses and am practically hard-wired to get up and get out to feed, muck, turn out, etc.
Anyone else going through this and, more importantly, have any idea when to expect normal sleep patterns to resume? Lucky for my horses hubby is carrying the load, but he often goes out later than I typically did. Beggars can't be choosers though.
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Hi Ladies:
So nice to see some familiar faces! Pzercher- I have missed your inspirational posts. I hope that the pain subsides soon. I am still dealing with a painful distended belly! I met with PS yesterday to discuss the situation. He has no idea what is causing this condition. He has seen it once...but he does not know what causes this complication. He said TIME may resolve the problem. I am meeting with gallbladder surgeon on Monday.
So we did discuss Stage 2 for spring. I meet with him in April.
I think the road to recovery is long, and I too wonder when will I feel at my new normal.
I hope everyone enjoys a restful weekend!
Lisa
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Now that stage 1 is behind me, can someone explain what I should expect at stage 2? I know I will need a lift or reduction on my natural breast, but my PS hasn't discussed anything else yet. I'm meeting him in 2 weeks. What exactly is scar revision? Can chest adhesions be fixed? I had my mastectomy 3 years ago which left me with chest adhesions/scar tissue. I was disappointed after my DIEP that I still have a spot of adhesions, about the size of a quarter right above my new breast.
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Day 6 post Diep, and I am really not doing too badly at all and I am surprised at how well I feel. Looking back the anaesthetist's not being able to find a vein was quite stressful, but I knew it would be a problem. Getting into a chair two days following surgery was not good either as I felt very nauseous. But now I am up and about and planning on taking a short walk to the shops tomorrow.
One side of the abdominal scar is hurting a lot when I try to lie down on that side, but otherwise it all just feels very tight. I am not liking the discrepancy between my own breast and the new one, which is smaller, higher etc, but I know that will be addressed in the coming weeks. I am finding it hard to reconcile that there is actually no feeling in the new breast, and I do feel as if I have a rugby ball under my arm!
I am on antibiotics which I believe is routine. Which is just as well as I have a sore throat. I return to the dressing clinic at the hospital on Tuesday, I am wondering what they will do, as really the dressings I have are just some kind of tape, again I am surprised at this as I thought I would be swaddled!
Emotionally I am still not sure how I feel, it's as much of a shock to see a new breast as it was to see no breast if that makes sense? Just getting used to one 'breast' situation before a new one arises, and another emotional adjustment is needed. That bit is a little exhausting.
To anyone who is waiting for this surgery, I would like to offer some reassurance that you will get through it - honestly!
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Hi!
Last month I had a PBMX with immediate diep reconstruction. I was expecting a lot of pain and dealing with depression for some weeks, but it wasn't like that. I was scared to look my new breasts, get used to them and for something unexpected having them removed, ironically my breasts were doing fine, only with a lot of spasms, but I got an small abdominal infection. Every week I discover somrthing new with theirs shape, scars, movement and texture. I feel them really hot in the middle, where the nipple should be located while the rest is cold or warm.
I'm so happy with my decision of having the diep, I feel them Ike my old breasts. I was 34-6 d and right know I'm between c/d. I don't know how to explain it, they are round, and if you look them from the bottom they look GREAT ( yes, I was taking pictures and holding a mirror in every direction
) but, they look like hamburger buns (?) they lack some projection and the right one is a little bit bigger than the other one, I have some fat around the sides and look like someone is pinching me from inside the right side... Just under my armpit.
Question,They removed my nipples and I have the circles of skin from the abdomen. I'm numb. My breasts look round but the tip, or the circle look flat, like using two size small sport bra. When I touch my breasts i can feel where the the voulume ends. Is that normal? I feel exactly like an Starbucks lid when you order a frap. With whip cream.
I'm wearing my bras, but I can tolerate underwire. Strange, I can feel a thing... But it bothers me a lot and give me spasms.
Anyway..., waiting for stage 2 and I can't wait to get my new nipples and get topples. \o/
Hmmm... I finding something really curious after my the diep, I'm telling everyone if she/he sees my new babies and sending them pics (fully clothed, eh) Before all this nightmare... I wasn't like that, I hated people staring my breasts, but now I feel more.. Hmmm confident? . I don't know this stage of craziness. Well, positive side, My boyfriend cant wait to play with his new girls and is really supportive, he helped me to choose the diep instead of implants.. -.-.
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Everyone truly is different as are their surgeons but as a person who had a BMX with DIEP on March 18 (same date as Teacher
I will share what I hope helps some of you to know.
1. Your breasts do change shape and soften a great deal, mine looked like huge swollen things when I first got done with surgery, but the surgeon warned me to give it a solid year as far as my expectations go, things settle and so forth. I started off wearing only very stretchy cami bras since they weren't in the definite settled mode at first. I was a B and I would say still am but a little more rounded and normal looking now, I have gained some weight since then so that may be why a bit too. Do not despair over how they look immediately post op, take it one day at a time, eat healthy and just report any concerns to your surgeon.
2. Stage 2 is also so variable. All I had done was the nipples. Nothing else was lifted or injected or extracted. We are all built differently to start with so it is amazing how no one person seems alike with stage 2. Since mine was simple I only missed one day of work. I considered not doing nipples and considered not doing tattoos but in both cases they were huge steps for me in resuming "normal" as much as I can.
3. My sleep is whacky still but was before surgery, now it is closer to normal, the first 3-6 months your body is recovering from a lot of change.
4. Emotional/Spiritual processing is huge and ongoing, but once you start working or whatever you did before the diagnosis and surgery that helps. Many have found a counselor helpful. This group is hugely helpful but always take things people say with a grain of salt since their surgeons, health, hospital, etc are all different. We have enough to deal with without feeling any competitiveness over how one recovers vs another. While the board is very supportive, there were times I checked it several times a day and times I went weeks without checking it.
5. Re: Standing up, I felt like hunchback of Notre Dame for a while. I went out to breakfast with a friend pretty early at maybe 6 weeks post op and I remember her saying "you are still bending forward" hahaha and I didn't even realize it
Physical therapy helped me a ton with that.
If anyone has specific questions, I am certainly not the queen of all wisdom but would love to help anyone, just PM me and I will answer in any way I can. You can get through this, just one step at a time and know you are not alone. Hugs.
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pzercher, stage 2 was tough for me. I had two stage 2's, and the liposuction was pretty brutal. I bruised badly and had a lot of pain on my inner thighs for weeks. I also hated being in the compression again (4 weeks). I think the hardest part was emotionally. I was feeling so good 4 months after the DIEP, and then it was like taking 2 steps forward, 3 steps back. Then 5 months later I did a second stage 2, and went into it telling myself I wasn't going to get depressed again, but I did. More pain, back in the compression, etc. I think anesthesia and pain meds took a toll too. The good news is, I'm feeling good again. Diep was in January, stage 2 in May and stage 2b in October. Now I am feeling a lot better and have nipples scheduled at Vinnie's in April. Really the only difference in how I feel is that there is still numbness in my tummy and breasts, although I have a lot more feeling in my breasts than I thought I would. On occasion I get pain in my breasts, kind of a shooting pain that takes my breath away, but only lasts a short time. The most bothersome thing is the itching I sometimes get in my tummy (around the scar) or breasts (near the nipples). Since the areas are numb, I scratch, but can't relieve the itch. It's the most annoying thing! Lol! It's really hard to believe that it's been 11 months today since my surgery. There's one thing I'm certain of, I have never, not for one second, regretted the decision to do the DIEP. I'm am very happy with how my breasts look, and I love my flat tummy too. I started exercising again and am hoping I can get my legs to look a little better. I've always had thick thighs, and the liposuction left them looking smaller, but not necessarily better. There are large dents where the fat was removed. I'm hoping exercising can help smooth that out better. My outer thighs and love handles are much improved though. Just a smoother look.
Hope that helps a little. If anyone has any questions, since I'm almost a year out, feel free to message me. Merry Christmas, ladies!
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Okay, JMB and Enjoy (and any others out there who have any ideas) - I'm 2-1/2 weeks post Stage I and in the past few days have been noticing sharp pains a couple of inches to the left of my right hip bone (if that makes any sense). There's nothing there - the incision is a couple of inches above the area and there's no bruising or lump that I can feel. The first thing I thought of is "oh, wouldn't it be really fun if I had appendicitis right now?" but after checking online for "10 signs of appendicitis," that doesn't seem to be anything like what I'm experiencing. I did a search or two - not sure where I ended up (maybe webmd?) and I'm self-diagnosing it as nerve pain, probably from scar tissue or somehow as a result of surgery. I'm hoping it will go away (it seems to happen after I move around and goes away if I put slight pressure on it). The article I saw suggested massage to help keep the scar tissue from pinching the nerve. That all makes sense to me - anybody have any experience with this.....or suggestions?
Thanks for any help.
Merry Christmas to all!
Bev
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SaltyJack - it could be scar tissue but check with your PS
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