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  • ThinkingPositive
    ThinkingPositive Member Posts: 834
    edited December 2014

    blueflowers...glad you did well. Had my first round 2 weeks ago...didn't really exerience anything other than being a little tired, a little bathroom issue one day.. hair starting to fall out.. Did you have to go for the neulasta shot the next day? I took the claritan and didn't have any bone pain that was unbearable.. May I ask what your diagnosis is? Stage, Grade..etc... ? Thanks. Hope you continue to do well.

    Thinking Positive (Karen)

  • blueflowers
    blueflowers Member Posts: 46
    edited December 2014

    Hi Karen,

    I don't have to go for neulesta shot, yet !! I have been drinking a lot of gatorade - that is helping me to go to the bathroom a lot. I was diagnosed on Oct 3, had my lumpectomy on Nov 18, Stage 1, grade 3, 0/3 lymph nodes. I am triple negative and will have to take 4 treatments of Cytoxan and Taxotere.

    Hopefully we all will be able to continue dong well and get this war over.


  • april25
    april25 Member Posts: 772
    edited December 2014

    OK... Finished first chemo infusion of TCHP today... lasted from 9am to 3pm, so a pretty long day. Had a talk with the Radiologist for the first time, so I know something about that--even though it is yet to be decided. So... a longer day!

    I was hungry so my sister and ate dinner at 5:30pm.

    I feel OK, but there's the beginnings of a light warm/burning feel in my stomach... Is this a sign that I should take a nausea pill before going to bed?

    I have Zofran and compazine, I think. The person at the infusion clinic said to try the Zofran first. It says on the bottle it takes an hour to kick in. Do I wait until I actually feel nauseous?

    What does a slightly burning feeling in the stomach indicate? Or is it just a weird totally personal thing of mine?

    I have neuopogen shots to take, but not until Friday... THAT should be fun (not!). I mean, who is a fan of needles? But so much has been stuck into me lately, I can't really complain about a fine little needle, can I?

    So... after Neuopogen... that's the cause of the bone aches? So Tylenol? Zyrtec?

    I had four pages of messy notes that I took, plus a TON of printed hand-outs about all the chemo components and what they do to you...

    It's a LOT to take in, but what's new with this whole wild ride?

  • farmdau56
    farmdau56 Member Posts: 42
    edited December 2014

    Hi April,

    Don't wait to feel nausea--take the zofran and ativan at the scheduled times. I didn't need the compazine, but take it if you need it!

    I felt the bone pain (VERY achy) 4 days after the neulasta shot. Took claritin, but din't help much. Tylenol did nothing, but Aleve (double dose) really helped. I had more of an "unsettled stomach" than real nausea. Zantac worked well for me. Ativan really helped with the sleeping.

    This is one week after my first chemo. and I feel pretty good--normal appetite, regained energy. So hang in there and I hope you will be feeling yourself by this time next week!

  • LauraW68
    LauraW68 Member Posts: 100
    edited December 2014

    April,


    Here are a few any tricks/tips I want to share that helps with the SE's of Zofran that I have

    (of course check with you MO first to be sure this ok for you)

    1. Take a Zantac (or other acid reducer) about 15-30 minutes before taking your Zofran. Helps to relieve that heartburn or indigestion that Zofran causes for me.

    2. Take 2 Tylenol about 15 -30 minutes or with the Zofran to counteract the headache Zofran causes me.

    3. I found out that even though my scrip says take one Zofran (mine is 8mg) every 8 hours that I can take up to 4 of those in a 24 hour period. So one every 6 hours instead of 8.

    4. I took a Zofran Monday morning at 5:30 am before getting ready to leave for treatment yesterday. Then another one at 3 pm to try and head the nausea off at the pass this go around as I had it really bad last time what with last Tuesday was the worst for me. Then I took another one at 9pm just before going to bed. I did have some nausea that night but it wasn't nearly as severe as last time. I got up about 3 to go potty and was feeling nauseated so I went ahead and took a Zofran, zantac, and Tylenol

    It seems to have worked because I am feeling better this go around.


    I take the Neulasta shot. I'm trying Zyrtec this go around for the pain that shot causes because Claritin didn't work for me. I took one on Sunday, one Monday, one Tuesday (day of shot), one on Wednesday, and then one a day for the next 3 or 4 days. So far, so good as the pain is much more manageable this time.

  • april25
    april25 Member Posts: 772
    edited December 2014

    farmdau56 & LauraW68 -- Thanks for your help. I wasn't quite sure what to do post-chemo. I'd had everything given to me during chemo, but they didn't go into what I should do after (aside from the Neupogen shots in two days). I asked for some anti-nausea drugs, just in case, and picked up the Zofran and Compazine. But they are "as needed", so I wasn't sure if I should take them before I felt nausea or not.

    BUT, because you said to just go ahead and take the Zofran, I took one with a Zantac, since I was feeling a little burn in my stomach. AND I feel much better. It's probably the Zantac, since I wasn't actually feeling nausea... but now I feel a bit better heading off to sleep!

    So far I haven't felt sick or tired or achy, but it's early days yet. I'm definitely concerned about the Neupogen shots, since you all have been talking about the aches. I've got pills to pop (I have Tylenol and Claritin and Zantac... will look into getting Aleve, just in case) and hopefully they will help with that.

    Thank you!

  • LauraW68
    LauraW68 Member Posts: 100
    edited December 2014

    You're welcome April.

    If you do start hurting, you can try a warm bath or shower or even a heating pad. A friend said a heating pad worked wonders for her.

  • WheelyGirl
    WheelyGirl Member Posts: 181
    edited December 2014

    Does shaving help with the scalp discomfort once the hair starts falling out?  Mine is very tender and losing handfuls at a time.

  • amylsp
    amylsp Member Posts: 188
    edited December 2014

    It definitely helped me Wheelygirl. My scalp pain decreased significantly once I shaved. I think it's because there's no longer as much weight or pull on the follicles.

  • WheelyGirl
    WheelyGirl Member Posts: 181
    edited December 2014

    Thanks again, amylsp - I hope my husband is ready to shave it - I am tired of the handfuls coming out and just want to move past that part of it.  I cried all day the day after I had it cut short (never had short hair in 53 years).  It's crazy but it was almost like grieving.  Now I am over it and want to move on.

     

  • SpecialK
    SpecialK Member Posts: 16,486
    edited December 2014

    wheely - do you have electric clippers or an electric razor?  If so, use them with a guard and don't drag the clipper across the head, it will hurt your scalp.  I would not use a regular razor - or go into the hairdresser or a barber shop, they will usually shave it for free there with clippers.  My husband was military so I had a set of clippers at home and I used a 1/4 inch guard. 

  • WheelyGirl
    WheelyGirl Member Posts: 181
    edited December 2014


    My husband has a set of clippers with a 1/4 inch guard.  I don't think I would feel comfortable having it shaved at a public salon and I trust my husband.  Thanks for the advise.

  • bellywelly
    bellywelly Member Posts: 18
    edited December 2014

    Want to say hello to all of you in the December chemo group. I had my first chemo FEC a week ago after a mastectomy for triple negative breast cancer, Grade 3 Stage 2b. 3 x FEC followed by 3x docetaxel. This is my second mastectomy - first was in 2001, also grade 3, stage 2b but positive for ER/PR back then. Had left nephrectomy shortly thereafter. That tumor was found on the ultrasound done after surgery. Had aortic valve replacement in January 2014. Life has been busy!! I took away from all the messages I have read that chemo is "doable" No one said it was good. First 5 days were the worse - tired, achy, zonked out. Developed a fever which went away pretty quickly on it's own. I am now day 8 after that initial infusion of poison and am feeling much better. Hair is still in. I expect it will fall out just in time for Christmas. Yes, I bought a wig. What more could I want from Santa? I am listening to myself as I write and hear a need to have a place to be grumpy occasionally and also to share experiences with others. I am not normally a grumpy person so I should say "one down, five to go". Looking forward to hearing from you all.

  • WheelyGirl
    WheelyGirl Member Posts: 181
    edited December 2014

    Specialk-when you say don't drag the clipper across the scalp you mean the clipper itself not the 1/4 inch guard, correct? Very new to this world of clippers and such...


  • Cjfishergal
    Cjfishergal Member Posts: 33
    edited December 2014

    Hey there - so I developed a weird swelling of my left cheek. Looks like I am saving chestnuts for Christmas! It doesn't hurt, puffy, slightly red, warm to touch - teeth are okay not an abscess tooth, nose is okay, ears okay, mouth okay...Went to the Doc, they gave me more ciprofloxacin and another medicine to kill bacteria in the mouth and did some blood work (CBC). Just got a call, my neutrophil level is 0.1 - they are changing my prescription and gave me directions to watch for infection and to go directly to emergency if my temp goes to 37.9 or higher.

    Wonderful...just wonderful. But I wanted to share with the group just in case it happens to you. By the way I am day 11 after first treatment.

    Connie

  • blueflowers
    blueflowers Member Posts: 46
    edited December 2014

    Today is my 3rd day, feeling a lot more nauseous , have started taking compazine every 6 hrs. Lost all appetite, and taste buds are dead. Feels like the poison is slowly spreading all over m body. Hopefully things will get a little better. I can't think of how I am going to deal with this for the next two/three months.

    Hopefully all others are doing ok.

  • SpecialK
    SpecialK Member Posts: 16,486
    edited December 2014

    wheely - basically I meant not to drag the clipper without the guard, lol!  The guard will protect your tender scalp from the scraping metal on the edge of the clipper. Use the guard and you'll be fine - good luck!  I cut my long hair off pre-chemo and had it made into a hairpiece so I had short hair when it started falling out, but I put my shaved off hair outside for the birds so they could use it for nests.

  • farmdau56
    farmdau56 Member Posts: 42
    edited December 2014

    Hi Blueflowers:

    You will feel better! Day 3/4 is the worst. I am on Day 10 and my appetite is back. Not very achy anymore. Main complaints are dry mouth, lips, sore/sensitive tongue and a sore throat. No fever and no other cold symptoms. I guess next thing will be hair loss...does it usually happen around day 19??

  • april25
    april25 Member Posts: 772
    edited December 2014

    blueflowers -- I hope your nausea lessens.

    I'm on day 2 out from my first cycle of Taxotere Carboplatin Herceptin Perjeta... Feeling a little more tired and slightly achy today. Not nauseous, but I still have that slight heartburn feeling in my stomach (seems to be better with an acid-blocker). ... But I get the Neupogen shots tonight, so I'll see how that affects me.

    Best wishes to you all, for getting through all this!

  • bonnied
    bonnied Member Posts: 74
    edited December 2014

    i think it helps to keep well hydrated in the first week after chemos. My scalp is itchy after cutting it short. I still have 1/4" on top but we will cut it shorter. I am wanting it to come out so there arent hairs all over the place. I wore a soft cap to bed and my head better with the cap on. Aroung the house i am going bare..feels more free i guess.

  • WheelyGirl
    WheelyGirl Member Posts: 181
    edited December 2014

    SpecialK - I cut 12 1/2 inches off of mine before it started to fall out and donated to "Locks of Love".  I didn't think about the bird nest, great idea.  Thanks for the tip about the clipper...I will be shaving this morning...my scalp is prickly and I did not sleep last night because of the discomfort.  Sure hope shaving it helps with that.

    Hoping everyone is feeling better today.

  • WheelyGirl
    WheelyGirl Member Posts: 181
    edited December 2014

    Hubby did an excellent job and I only shed a few tears! It looks and feels so much better than that thinning stuff.image

  • WheelyGirl
    WheelyGirl Member Posts: 181
    edited December 2014

    Any suggestions for a itchy scalp?  Does washing it with baby shampoo help and should I still be using a conditioner?  Anyone know?

  • TTfan
    TTfan Member Posts: 176
    edited December 2014

    Looking good Wheely!

    I don't know if it's officially recommended or not, but I tried the 2 in 1 Head and Shoulders for dry scalp to wash my shaved head and it eliminated the itching. The pain/tingling I felt during the initial shedding was already gone since shaving.

    Welcome bellywelly to the club we would rather not be eligible for, but since we are, good support and ideas here! You have been through so much! I really hope this phase is as easy as possible for you. There's supportive space here for both the crabby and the upbeat days!

  • LauraW68
    LauraW68 Member Posts: 100
    edited December 2014

    WheelyGirl, you look fabulous!!


  • april25
    april25 Member Posts: 772
    edited December 2014

    WheelyGirl-- You do look great! Nice head-shape! :)

    I guess we'll all discover if our head-shapes are good for the shaved/bald look or not! I've always been a bit curious! But never brave enough to go for the wild hair cuts kids have been doing... although I was a bit envious of how free they all are to shave parts and have mohawks or faux-hawks and dye their locks different colors! It's good that we live in times where it's more acceptable to have all kinds of styles! --The buzzed/bald look has been fashionable for a while, which is a great thing for everyone having to deal with chemo and hair-loss.

  • WheelyGirl
    WheelyGirl Member Posts: 181
    edited December 2014

    Has anyone else experienced a frequent urge to urinate.  I thought it was the Cipro so quit taking it (thought I had strep throat) went to the PA at my Onc's office, they did a urine test, no infection, they said maybe a side effect of chemo (which I thought was weird since it happened around day eight) then I read it was also a side effect of Priolosec so I quit taking that about 4 days ago.  Although it is getting  better, I still have a frequent urge to urinate and do every time I go to the restroom (which is about 15 times a day).  Anyone else have this problem?  I should also add that I have always urinated a lot throughout the day but not this often.

    Hope everyone is doing well today my thoughts and prayers are with you all.

  • mikarae
    mikarae Member Posts: 163
    edited December 2014

    Hello WheelyGirl - I also had taxotere treatments. Completed in June. I too had the urge to urinate. My on said he had other patients who had the same side effect. For me, the urge went away a few months after treatment ended. Wishing you all the best - Karen

  • sophie14
    sophie14 Member Posts: 44
    edited December 2014

    Hi pretty lady ...I like your new look ..I'm already feeling emotional about losing my hair, but like all of you precious ladies I will adjust.

  • WheelyGirl
    WheelyGirl Member Posts: 181
    edited December 2014

    Thanks for sharing that Mikarae...at least now I know it wasn't the Prilosec and don't have to suffer the heartburn through my treatment on the 24th.  Good to know it will also go away.


     

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