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  • leftyloo
    leftyloo Member Posts: 23
    edited December 2014

    hey thanks for the tip, specialk!

    akitagirl, i am also getting pretty bad abdominal cramps, with or without the big D accompanying them - maybe i'll pick up immodium, too...

    hi wheelygirl!


  • SpecialK
    SpecialK Member Posts: 16,486
    edited December 2014

    akita - appreciate the compliment!  Just trying to pay it forward to the newbies!

  • bonnied
    bonnied Member Posts: 74
    edited December 2014

    Welcome Sheri! We are glad you have joined our winter chemo crew. Lots of good sharing and warm caring vibes all around this thread. We are all in the same boat over the holidays doing lots of the same things and feeling some of the same things.

    Welcome also to fighter girl! You are a fighter and are with a great bunch of supportive gals here. Let us be good listeners to what hurts or good days too because we all need to hear that from others. PM me here your email and I will invite you to join us on the FB winter chemo crew. There are nearly 40 ladies in the group now sharing away. We all seem to come back and forth between this board and that one.

    Blueflowers, you are hanging in there. Losing hair is scary. I haven't; lost mine yet ..maybe next week after my second chemo. But there are silver linings ion everything. Try to locate a Look Good Feel Better class in your area. Many of us have either signed up already in our areas (I'm going to one this Saturday morning in Northern Virginia). You will learn how to use makeup during chemo, wig stuff and even scarf tying. Everyone who has taken it said it is a lot of fun. I had my neighbor give me her wig (from her chemo a few years ago) and her lovely array of beautiful scarves! She told me to make it fun. We have to go through it so make the most of it knowing that the change is indeed temporary. xoxo

    SpecialK has shared some great information from her own journey. We are grateful that she visits our crew here to chime in. <3

    http://www.cancer.gov/…/patient-educati…/wyntk-breast-cancer

    TallieLassie (Teri) shared this great link on asking the right questions over on our FB group:


    bonnie

  • SpecialK
    SpecialK Member Posts: 16,486
    edited December 2014

    bonnied - thanks!  I am a willing resource for any questions that I am able to answer - or for pointing any of you in the right direction for an answer.  BTW - I noticed you are in Sterling - my son is down the street from you in Ashburn, VA.  He works in the ER at Fairfax Hospital, is a firefighter/EMT in Loudon County and a student at George Mason.  I will be up there on Monday for a visit for a Her2+ vaccine booster trial I participate in in Washington, D.C. through Johns Hopkins, and will get to see him for a lunch date.

  • bonnied
    bonnied Member Posts: 74
    edited December 2014

    special K- small world! I am doing my chemos at inova loudoun in lees burg w dr rajendra. I am lucky to be ten minutes away from all my drs except for reconstructive and she is in annandale and also reston. I love the team approach at Loudoun and how your cancer team (rad, surg, onc, recon, mentors) all communicate on your case periodically so everyone is on the same page. What a concept!!



  • WheelyGirl
    WheelyGirl Member Posts: 181
    edited December 2014

    Went to the Doctor for blood work yesterday and discovered I have nettropenia, bummer my honey and I were going to go the the casino for a little while this afternoon but dr said no too great a risk.  I talked him in to letting me keep my appointment for my hair and dinner with friends. he agreed so I went , my 3 best friends went charging into that hair saloon like we owned it.  Tony did a great job on the cut but I hate it , it makes me look like a boy.  I have always worn long hair so tried to prepare as much as I could but I am still extremely sad..My husband said my hair looks terrific and I look just like his wife only with shorter hair.  I am very depressed over this whole hair thing trying to get my arms around it and put it into perspective but it is really hard.  I have a wonderful wig that I purchased and brought along to the hair dresser cus I knew I would not have the courage to wear the short hair out of the saloon.  So we go walking up to the restaurant t meet our husband an my wig was slip sliding all over, had to adjust the darn thing throughout dinner.  Definitely need to adjust the tighteners before next time. I know I will get used to it eventually as there really is no other choice, I am just gonna let this day be my only sad day over this.  Tomorrow I am going to love my do! 

    Does anyone know if I should take Tylenol for a fever of 99.9 when I  nave neutropenia?  I am hoping it is the stress of the whole hair thing. The restaurant we went to was more crowded then normal .  Should I call and ask someone at the office about taking the Tylenol. they said don't call unless it is 100.5 or greater but I'm thinking it may bring it down before it gets to 100.5.  I know I'm blabbering, not a good day looking to tomorrow, I know it will be a good one cause I won't allow many of these type days..

    Okay, I' m done.  hope everyone is feeling great today and make it through there list of chores unevently


  • sophie14
    sophie14 Member Posts: 44
    edited December 2014

    Hi ladies ...thanks everyone for the helpful advise and encouragement you give. I start AC treatments Tuesday, December 16. I am very scared, and I tell my husband I just want my simple life back. I am still on that roller coaster of emotions. My blood pressure has been up all week , gee I wonder why. I had my port put in Monday and a sentinel node biopsy . I'm still pretty sore . But , I got great news from my surgeon today. My lymph nodes are clear. NO CANCER in them ! AMEN! ... My cancer is stage 2a , HER2/ positive 3+ . I have a year of chemo treatments ahead of me, surgery and radiation. But I am still so thankful ! Thank again for the support you'll provide. Take care !

  • april25
    april25 Member Posts: 772
    edited December 2014

    Hello.

    I'm going to be starting neoadjuvent chemo, 6 cycles of TCHP, on Wednesday, the 17th, I think.

    I've been so busy sorting out doctors and opinions and scans and tests that I haven't researched much about chemo at all! And Monday I'll be have a Port put in. I know little about that too! SO much info to absorb... And I'm still a bit shocked from the initial diagnosis last month!

    I think I'd like to get a wig but haven't had time to shop AT ALL. I've bare had time to eat and sleep since my diagnosis.

    I'm actually hoping things will get less crazy after Chemo starts, but I'm thinking that probably won't happen. I've still got more tests and more consults ahead...

    I'm glad you all are here as a source of support, even though the circumstances are not happy.

    I'll be checking in here a LOT, because it's such a great place to learn things.

    I hope everyone will have as smooth a course of chemo as possible!

  • bonnied
    bonnied Member Posts: 74
    edited December 2014

    hi April, welcome to the group! You'll find lots of support here and you are in the same boat with many of us. You have time with the wig and hair stuff.. I am now day 12 from chemo 1 and no hair loss yet. Chemo 2 is coming for me on Monday. To prep for that go shop for healthy food choices so can eat small snacks, bone broths, teas. Plan to eat light and easy foods that are gentle on your system at least the first week. Drink 4 x 16oz bottles a day at minimum prior to chemo and during and days after. Exercise like walking will help too.

    Sophie, good luck on Tuesday! Keep us in the loop here so we can support you every step of the way. Relaxation tapes might be helpful with lowering stress and blood pressure. Look into support classes from American cancer society like Look good feel Better too..

    Xoxo


    Bonnie

  • fightergirl
    fightergirl Member Posts: 7
    edited December 2014

    Bonnied - Thanks so much for adding me to the FB group! I sent you a message with my email address, so let me know if you didn't get it. :) I'm really looking forward to utilizing this group & the FB one. Hopefully, I will have some words of wisdom once I've started on my "chemo" journey. One step at a time, right?

  • leftyloo
    leftyloo Member Posts: 23
    edited December 2014

    hi everyone!

    WheelyGirl - right after my BOYcut, i was really bummed out as well.

    it's a bit of a paradoxical thing to look tougher, but to feel more vulnerable.

    some cultures - and many individuals who i know - mark rites of passage in their lives with the chopping of their hair, and i think that fits many of us here, too.

    a friend of mine remarked that many people hide behind their hair, and that by choosing to chop mine off, she thought it showed me as courageous and open to dealing with my own reality as it changes... whether or not you take any of that as a comfort, the truth is that this experience we are all going through will mark us and change us; maybe our hair and our vanity is worth the (temporary) sacrifice in order to deal with the unknowns in our future. i know for sure that i was grateful in those few days after my first chemo day and even now (8 days later) that the short hair is so easy to deal with and wash. for what it's worth, there seems to be many saving graces along with the absolute shite that happens along the way. chin up!

  • Dakotawoman
    Dakotawoman Member Posts: 6
    edited December 2014

    Wow... Had my first chemo (TC) on Tuesday, 12/9. Had a hard time in the chair....just couldn't stop crying....not like bawling but just seeping tears. The nurses were wonderful and kept asking if I was just having a reaction and I said no that it was just my stupid depression and reading all of my FaceBook posts from my friends with encouragement. The chemo itself was fine.... The day after I felt pretty good, actually worked from home for about 5 hours, a little nauseous but not too bad and took my compazine.

    Gave myself the stupid shot Wednesday night and it's all been downhill from there. I hadn't read up on taking the Claritin.....wish I had.... I was up, in excruciating pain all night.... Called the doc this morning and was told I could take some ibuprofin...and Benadryl, which helped a little.

    Sux.....cause today's my son's 2nd birthday.....and I haven't even gotten to see him. Thank GOD my parents live close and could take him for me but I miss the little bugger and it sucks that I couldn't wake up with him on his birthday.....

    Also went Monday and got 20+ inches cut off my hair....which was pretty depressing. I know it'll grow back but......

  • WheelyGirl
    WheelyGirl Member Posts: 181
    edited December 2014

    Dakotawoman - so sorry to hear about your first chemo experience hoping the next one will be better.

    Leftyloo - Thanks for the words of encouragement, you are right our hair and our vanity is definitely worth the temporary sacrifice...tomorrow will be a better day!

  • KillTheCancer
    KillTheCancer Member Posts: 37
    edited December 2014

    Hi everyone, I had my port put in on Monday (in the arm), started chemo (TCH) on Tuesday. TCH every 3rd week for 18 weeks, herceptin every week for 18 weeks, then every 3 weeks for total of a year.

    They pumped me up with anti-nausea infusions and a steroid prior to the chemo itself (Emend, Aloxi and decadron).

    I seemed ok on Monday, just a little tired. On Tuesday I went in for my Neulasta shot. The shot itself was uncomfortable but tolerable. Later on that night I started getting sore. Wednesday, Thursday and today have been progressively worse in all over pain and soreness. I haven't felt too much nauseousness, just a bit queasy every so often. I am also taking Nystatin 4x a day (to ward off any mouth sores) and l-glutamine twice a day (for 3days).

    I'm not sure, but it certainly seems like I probably could tolerate the chemo, but the Neulasta is impossible, lol. I really hope this pain goes away soon.


  • Dakotawoman
    Dakotawoman Member Posts: 6
    edited December 2014

    I'm right there with ya hun..... If this pain doesn't go away soon I'm gonna go insane..... So, for those I've seen posting about Claritin..... When do you take it, before, during and after? Please advise?

    My parents brought me some but I haven't done enough research to see if I can take it now or if I need to take it BEFORE the shot? Please let me know..

    Lori

  • april25
    april25 Member Posts: 772
    edited December 2014

    bonnied -- Thanks for the welcome and the eating tips! Everything is happening so fast (chemo before surgery) that it's hard to keep up with the bits and pieces. But I'll get there... or it will get here and I'll just deal! Either way.

    It's good to know your hair isn't falling out quickly! I hope my hair will stay in for a while after my first chemo, since I'd like to get a wig before it goes. And pick up all the OTHER info I need to get through this in the best way I can.

    leftyloo -- I haven't cut my hair yet, but I think I understand. Since my diagnosis, people have been saying stuff about how strong I am and how I'm on top of my doctors and treatment, and of course it's meant to be encouraging, and of course I'm really NOT any of those things. I'm a quivering wreck inside and feel like I know nothing about anything and am totally unprepared. The only good thing about all of this hitting so hard and fast is that I haven't had a second to think and have just been running around from one thing to another. But in those seconds in-between... scary stuff. But I still have to keep moving on.

    Good wishes to you and to trying to stand up to your tougher-looking exterior! Be fierce!, even if it's mostly just on the outside!

    Dakotawoman -- I'm going to try not to read facebook when I go for my first chemo! I'm sure I'd be crying my eyes out. Every time I check FB, all those lovely encouragements just make me tear up like nothing else! I guess it's because it's hard to be given encouragement when things seem so uncertain inside ourselves. And, hey, it's just a kind of sweet-tear-making thing to have others say good stuff to you (or me, at least! I don't like attention much, so this whole thing has been crazy on all levels).

    I hope you're feeling better and future treatments go smoother. And you'll be there for your son on the next birthday (and in years to come) when he will actually remember stuff!

    KillTheCancer -- I'm getting a Port in Monday and Wednesday my first chemo. I haven't heard about any steroid shots to be given. What are steroids for? (I feel so ignorant!) I'd go look up, but I still have to do a ton of stuff before Monday--like arrange a RIDE, pick up the meds I need to take... I have NO idea what those are... something to take day before/day of/morning after chemo... I know MO was talking about Neupogen for white blood cells (prophylactic)... but ...

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    oh crap... gotta go take care of some appointments and contact MO... be back to edit later! Got two calls at once--one from Radiology and pre-port info and the other appt for a scan that must be done pre-chemo!!! didn't get either resolved yet. *sigh*

  • farmdau56
    farmdau56 Member Posts: 42
    edited December 2014

    Dakotawoman--Hi! I had my neulasta shot yesterday afternoon and so far no pain. I was told to take the claritin the morning of the injection and for 3 days after (1 pill per day). We'll see how it goes the rest of today and tomorrow.Is day 4 usually the "worst" for most of you (nausea, pain, etc)? That's what I've been told. Still haven't gotten around to buying the glutamine powder.

    Killthecancer:this is the first I've heard of Nystatin. Is it otc? I've been rinsing with salt/baking soda.

    I'm not on FB so please keep up with the posts here--it really helps to hear from all of you! XXX

  • SpecialK
    SpecialK Member Posts: 16,486
    edited December 2014

    april - the before, morning, and day after meds are the steroids - usually dexamethasone/decadron.  Steroids are two-fold, for anti-nausea and to help with allergic reactions.  You will most likely also be given steroids with you IV premeds given into your port.  Neupogen is an injection you start the day after chemo to boost your white cell production to allow you to fight off an infection.  Chemo kills your blood cells as well as cancer cells, so some people become low enough that they pick up an opportunistic infection, Neupogen (daily injections) or Neulasta (one injection) helps prevent that issue. 

    Claritin is thought to help with bone/joint pain associated with WBC boosting drugs due to the antihistamine controlling edema in the bone marrow.  Bone marrow is where white cells are produced - and the bigger the bone the more the discomfort.  So, hips, pelvis and leg bones can be achy, some people also have shoulder and jaw pain.  I recommend Claritin, Aleve and very warm baths but check with your oncologists on the meds first.

  • sophie14
    sophie14 Member Posts: 44
    edited December 2014

    Thanks Bonnie ...I have already gone to Look Good Feel Better class. Plan on going to the Art classes they offer on Fridays when I feel like it. I have got my wig and some hats. I have my prayer warriors too. I really like the help and information you'll provide with the post on here and Facebook. My heart is with each one of you on this journey. I already have a lot of stomach issues and have to be careful what I eat. The oncologist said to us probiotic yogurt or pills. Maybe after the first treatment I will settle down some . I have allergies to so many things, it's sure going to be interesting. Take care ...

  • april25
    april25 Member Posts: 772
    edited December 2014

    SpecialK -- decadron... yes, I think that's what I'm supposed to take before/during/after. I haven't even picked it up yet! Thanks for the info on the claritin.

    I haven't had the Chemo class and still haven't had time to watch the dvd yet... I guess I should ask my MO about getting numbing stuff? Any other things? ... oh, geesh... I'm still freaking out here... I am trying to handle things, but I have papers all over the place with names and numbers and notes and I can't find things... and my house is a mess and I need to go to the bank to put some more money in my checking. Still need to find a ride for Monday Port procedure. I have no confidence they'll hook me up with a good port... yes, I'm paranoid, but it seems like I have to keep on top of everything, and I don't even know what I'm doing. I'd go to pick up the xanax but I haven't had time and I can't afford to not be on top of things, when a lot of stuff is still being set up...

    Sorry. Getting a bit vent-y here. ... Just... I haven't even had time to eat today. Good thing I ate more regularly yesterday. :(


  • SpecialK
    SpecialK Member Posts: 16,486
    edited December 2014

    april - there are all kinds of ports - don't worry about that.  I know some have endorsed the power port, but I don't have one and mine works just fine.  I have found that some with a power port can't access it anyway for certain tests because the personnel at the testing location are not trained to access ports.  I also did not go to a chemo class and I had plenty of time - my chemo was delayed until 14 weeks after my mastectomy due to additional surgery and healing issues.  I just showed up on the day of chemo and they explained fully all that would happen.  It is important to focus your energy on the things that matter right now and let the rest sort itself out.

  • Dakotawoman
    Dakotawoman Member Posts: 6
    edited December 2014

    Thanks SpecialK. I called the doc and was told Aleve, Tylenol, Benadryl and a warm bath.....too bad I don't have a tub.... :( However, I took the other three about an hour ago and am feeling better than I have in over 24 hours..... Next time I'll definitely take the Benadryl or Claritin prophylacticly (sp?)...... Now if I can get a little sleep.

    On a different note my parents are watching my 2 year old and brought him over for his birthday today and within 15 minutes of giving me a big kiss (not sloppy) he puked his brains out....and kept throwing up for the next hour.... Hoping he's not got anything contagious....

  • SpecialK
    SpecialK Member Posts: 16,486
    edited December 2014

    Dakota - so sorry about the baby not feeling well, I am sure you were so happy to see him on his b-day!  Use the Claritin if possible - it has been studied.  Maybe a shower instead of a bath?  Here is a link:

    http://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT01311336

  • april25
    april25 Member Posts: 772
    edited December 2014

    Thanks, SpecialK. I guess I'm freaking out a bit because I haven't had surgery first, so the cancer has had all this time to spread around... AND because there's a LOT to get up to speed on between diagnosis and treatment (Chemo first, in my case). I just spent the whole day on the phone trying to get things set up and haven't done anything else... only ate a bit of guacamole and chips and had part of an ice tea and a little coffee. And I'm here checking things between phone calls so I can try and keep my sanity...

    I'm actually wanting to get the first chemo cycle over because I might actually get some rest after it (or at least be nauseous while lying down!).

    Not to mention that I haven't picked up around the house for a month and there is stuff lying around everywhere! And my stupid fridge is acting up so I'm wary of keeping food in it. Freezer works, so that's OK. And stupid landline isn't working! First no calls coming in, but calls out OK, now static and hearing other phone calls. I called ATT, but no help so far... *sigh*

    Radiation folk probably tried calling me back on the landline and couldn't get through...!

    Thanks again for being the calm voice of reason and knowledge!

  • SpecialK
    SpecialK Member Posts: 16,486
    edited December 2014

    I had the mammo and US that led to diagnosis on Sept. 9 and didn't have surgery until Nov. 1 - this type of delay is more common than you think, don't let it worry you. You have a plan in place and will be starting shortly. It sounds like you have a few other challenges in your life right now, but don't forget to take care of yourself too - treatment is rough on us physically, you need to be as strong as possible going in - so be sure to eat!

  • april25
    april25 Member Posts: 772
    edited December 2014

    Oh, I think you did mention that to me before, SpecialK. About the time between dx and surgery... My memory is terrible right now (although it's never been that good!).


  • WheelyGirl
    WheelyGirl Member Posts: 181
    edited December 2014

    Anyone have any suggestions for extremely dry nasal passages?

  • SpecialK
    SpecialK Member Posts: 16,486
    edited December 2014

    wheely - get a tube of Aquaphor, put some on a q-tip and put a blob up each nostril, then pinch your nose and rub to distribute the Aquaphor. 

  • WheelyGirl
    WheelyGirl Member Posts: 181
    edited December 2014

    Thank You SpecialK, I caught a cold and my nose is so dry, can you get that at any drug store?

  • SpecialK
    SpecialK Member Posts: 16,486
    edited December 2014

    wheely - absolutely, even in grocery stores.  Sometimes it is in the first aid area by Vaseline, and I have seen it with the baby diaper rash stuff.  If you have Vaseline, go ahead and use that.

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