I'm confused what results mean

Lillp07
Lillp07 Member Posts: 124
edited December 2014 in Just Diagnosed

I was just diagnosed on Wednesday and don't understand what this means:

Histology. Stereocore bx right breast 1 o'clock

Clinical notes: persisting equivocal density 1 o'clock deep in right breast.

Cysts on ultrasound only

Macroscopic:

The specimen, stereocore right breast and consists of multiple yellow white and hemorrhagic cores and fragments of tissues each measuring between 4mm and 8mm in length

Blocked in toto - 1A

Microscopic:

Stereo right breast. The breast core cores show a well differentiated invasive carcinoma, no specific type.

All I have been told is it's breast cancer and I need an operation to remove lump and possibly lymph nodes and radiation. I wish I knew more info. It wasn't explained to me. :(

I should have asked more questions but I was in shock. Does this make sense to anyone?




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  • labelle
    labelle Member Posts: 721
    edited November 2014

    So sorry to read you are joining the club. These forums are busy and posts get lost easily, so hopefully this will move you closer to the top again.

    Like yours, my BC was diagnosed w a stereoscopic biopsy. "Well differentiated invasive carcinoma, no specific type" does mean you have breast cancer and will need to have surgery, what kind is one thing you will need to decide in the future. Your pathology report seems to be missing some information your will need, like receptor status. My initial pathology report was the same, missing lots of information. Various information was forwarded to me as the rest of the tests results came in and you'll almost certainly be getting more information in the days to come about what else was found in your pathology report and well as information about various treatment options based on your specific situation. Hopefully others will have more to add to this and reading on here will help you become better informed. There is a lot to learn.

  • MagicalBean
    MagicalBean Member Posts: 362
    edited November 2014

    Hi Lillp07,

    Getting this diagnosis is a heart-stopper to be sure, but you've come to the right place. Like Labelle says, you will be getting more info as the days go by. I recommend starting a list of questions to take to you next appointment. You'll be getting so much information. And while you're waiting, read over the discussion boards. You have a lot of company.

  • Lillp07
    Lillp07 Member Posts: 124
    edited November 2014

    thank you all for your replies. I didn't know I would be getting more results. That's good that more info will be coming my way. I will be asking a lot of questions next visit. I didn't know what was happening during the first.Thanks again. :)

  • Lillp07
    Lillp07 Member Posts: 124
    edited November 2014

    Magical Bean, how long did your radiation go for?

  • Morwenna
    Morwenna Member Posts: 1,063
    edited November 2014

    Sometimes you don't really get the full picture until after the results of lumpectomy or mastectomy with or without sentinel node sampling.

    In the end they have to know the grade (how aggressive) and the size of the tumour and whether it has its own blood supply (lymphovascular invasion), and also whether there is cancer in any of the nearby lymph nodes, how many and how much. This will help determine if you need chemo, and what sort.

    Then there are tests to determine the receptors your tumour may or may not have (Estrogen/Progesterone/HER_2), which will determine if any of the targetted therapies might be indicated.

    After surgery, depending on the pathology, there may be more tests/scans to establish the extent of the disease if they are unsure.

    It really can be a slow and painful process at the start, but once you and the doctors know what you are dealing with, a plan of action will be drawn up, and things get somewhat under control.

    Keep calm and carry on!

  • Lillp07
    Lillp07 Member Posts: 124
    edited November 2014

    Thank you everyone. It sounds like I have lots more results to wait on on have tests done before I know more.

  • agness
    agness Member Posts: 576
    edited November 2014

    Depending on the type of cancerous mutation they find, if you need chemo (aggressive type or reason to worry about spread) or targeted drugs (for HER2-positive disease) you can opt to start with chemo and then have a smaller surgery when you are done. This gives you the benefit of potentially reducing the tumor and reducing the scale of the surgery -- plus you get the benefit of knowing which drugs actually work against your cancer cells. When you have surgery first you don't get those benefits.

    A great question to ask your doctors is: how much time do I have to decide what I want to do? This gave me more time to prepare my body for chemo but also to get a second opinion.

    I hope you start getting a clearer picture of your diagnosis and your options.It is a shock to the get the diagnosis but there are a lot of us gals who have been through the same. People are great here at helping out when they can. Sending big hugs.


    Ann

  • Lillp07
    Lillp07 Member Posts: 124
    edited December 2014

    thank you, I thought I had responded to your messages. I have more information now with results but don't see the surgeon until Tuesday. I know that I will need chemo and radiation.

  • labelle
    labelle Member Posts: 721
    edited December 2014

    If possible get an Oxycotype test done. My pathology results were similar to yours, ER+/PR+, HER2- (although my tumor was a bit smaller) and I did not need chemo. This test can be very helpful in determining how much chemo may or may not help you personally and is covered by most insurance. From reading these boards, an Oxycotype score seems to be a very good tool / source of info for your doctors and if it hadn't been offered to me, I would definitely have requested it before making any big decisions.

    That said, best of luck w the surgeon and I would strongly urge you to get a second opinion. This was very hard for me because I really just wanted to get "it" out ASAP! But I was and still am extremely glad I sought out that all important second opinion. Actually, I interviewed 3 surgeons for the job, but the first one was so lame he doesn't count. Remember, these people work for us! You want to put together the best team you can: a surgeon, oncologist, radiologist and plastic surgeon (if the last 2 if needed)-providers you are comfortable working with and whose abilities and opinions you have faith in.

  • Lillp07
    Lillp07 Member Posts: 124
    edited December 2014

    thank you Iabelle. Did you have lymphatic invasion? I have lymphatic invasion with one of the tumours but no lymph node involvement. Not sure how that works.

  • labelle
    labelle Member Posts: 721
    edited December 2014

    I'm not sure I understand how that works either. Prior to surgery they thought I had no node involvement, nothing showed on the breast MRI, but as part of my lumpectomy to remove the tumor, sentinel lymph node sampling was also done. Because I'm so lucky, I had 4 sentinel nodes light up and be pulled, along with several aux nodes the surgeon said "just popped out." Anyway, one of my sentinel nodes did contain cancer, making me lymph node positive, but it did not change my treatment plan, other than to make me more likely to go thru w radiation and hormone therapy (both things I've tried really hard to weasel out of). I'm a reluctant patient, at best.

    Anyway, I think lymph node involvement (what I have/had) is different than a lymphatic invasion, but I don't know exactly what that means.

    Write down all your questions. Take them to your doctor appointments. Make your doctors answer every question in a way you can understand. If they don't, get another doctor. This is my best advice to you. Also, take someone with you to each appt: friend, spouse, sister, whoever, to made sure you hear everything right and to make sure you ask all the questions. Several times my husband was like "Where's your list?" because I needed to be reminded. He also had some good questions for the doctors, some I hadn't thought of myself and corrected me when I seemed to be hearing what I wanted to hear, not what was really being said. Choose someone w a cool head to go with you, because these decisions about treatment choices are not only important, but so very difficult.

  • SpecialK
    SpecialK Member Posts: 16,486
    edited December 2014

    Lillp - LVI is noted on your path report when present, but as labelle noted above, you can have positive nodes without it being noted. Or conversely, you can have LVI and negative nodes. There is some thought that having it means there is greater risk that breast cancer cells have a pathway of travel to the nodes and beyond, but there is a lack of consensus amongst medical professionals as to the degree of importance attached to LVI.  Here is some info from BCO on LVI:


    "Lymphatic or vascular invasion means that the tumor cells have gotten into the fluid-carrying channels within the breast. Tumors with this kind of invasion are at increased risk for spread beyond the main cancer within the breast, to the lymph nodes, and possibly to other areas of the body."

  • Nancy2581
    Nancy2581 Member Posts: 1,234
    edited December 2014

    I have never really understood LVI. If you don't have it how does cancer get to the lymph nodes? I have LVI and of course my cancer was in one of my lymph nodes. Just curious

    Nancy

  • sunny8
    sunny8 Member Posts: 52
    edited December 2014

    If you have LVI that means that it is in a blood vessel and therefore has the ability to get in your bloodstream and spread via that route. Whereas Lymph node involvement the cancer can spread though your body via the lymphatic system. Either way, you need to get systemic treatment because it gives you a higher chance of recurrence or spread.

  • Nancy2581
    Nancy2581 Member Posts: 1,234
    edited December 2014

    sunny thanks for explaining that

  • Lillp07
    Lillp07 Member Posts: 124
    edited December 2014

    thanks for that Sunny. I didn't know the difference between blood stream and lymphatic stream. :)

  • SheilaLouise
    SheilaLouise Member Posts: 2
    edited December 2014

    Do you mind me asking who you used for surgery?  I was just diagnosed Friday.

  • SheilaLouise
    SheilaLouise Member Posts: 2
    edited December 2014


    Just got diagnosed Friday --- who would you recommend for surgery?

  • Moderators
    Moderators Member Posts: 25,912
    edited December 2014

    SheilalLoise, it really depends on where you live. It is important to find a treatment team that you trust and that is local to you. Also, check what your insurance company covers as well.

  • labelle
    labelle Member Posts: 721
    edited December 2014

    As the mods wrote, you need health care providers that are located near you, in your insurance network is good too. I would strongly recommend going to a breast center as opposed to a general surgeon who does some breast surgery. Be careful though, a surgeon can simply call himself a breast center. I preferred university breast centers. A breast center is very helpful in coordinating your surgery, oncology, any genetic testing you might want/need, having the most modern equipment for things like breast MRIs. In my case, I decided it was worth driving more than an hour each way to a university breast center as opposed to being treated at our local hospital/cancer center. Only my radiation will be done locally and with a radiologist recommended by the breast center where I had surgery done.

  • MagicalBean
    MagicalBean Member Posts: 362
    edited December 2014

    Lillp07: Sorry I didn't respond sooner. I have had 28 rad tx, and have 5 boosts this week. I started October 27 and will be done Friday. It went faster than I expected, and with few SE so far. Next step for me is to decide if I want hormone therapy. My MO said I don't need it but I am 100% positive for ER and PR. so doing nothing scares me.

  • sunny8
    sunny8 Member Posts: 52
    edited December 2014

    I definitely recommend a university based breast center. Like MD Anderson, Johns Hopkins, UCLA,Mayo clinic or Sloan Kettering. It is worth it to fly or drive to the nearest top notch surgery center that specializes in breast cancer surgery. Then, you can get you treatment and followup care near where you live. In the long run, better surgeon = better results, less complication, newest techniques. less recurrence.

  • SpecialK
    SpecialK Member Posts: 16,486
    edited December 2014

    sunny - while I agree with your premise to a certain extent, I don't believe the OP in in the U.S.

  • Lillp07
    Lillp07 Member Posts: 124
    edited December 2014

    Hi Sheila. Are you in Australia?

    Then you all for your posts. I am seeing the surgeon on Tuesday and will get all my answers then I'm sure. The surgeon is a breast cancer specialist and in his suites they have radiation chemo blood drawing physio and everything that goes along with this journey. All in the one building which is good. The nurse I spoke to shouldn't have given me partial information and got me confused. I really should have just waited to talk to the surgeon. I will update you on Tuesday when I get more clarification

  • Lillp07
    Lillp07 Member Posts: 124
    edited December 2014
    We saw the surgeon this afternoon and the prognosis is good. There's a slight amount of spread which is why I must have chemo. It will start within the next week or two and last for 3-6 months. We find out exactly next Tuesday after all new scans are taken.

    Then in June I will then have a double mastectomy with reconstruction surgery so there's no chance of it returning. It's the safest way I can go because there could have been chance of reoccurrence. It's a big step but if I don't do it I will have to have multiple tests every year of my life which will be stressful hanging over my head.

  • Scaredchick
    Scaredchick Member Posts: 18
    edited December 2014

    I am in same boat as you and so terrified. I was also diagnosed 12/5/14 and don't understand my path either mine says Invasive ductal carcinoma ER positive, PgR positive HER2 score 2+. So I can look those words up but I am so happy for you that these awesome people are responding to you and giving you encouragement. Good luck and fight like a girl! (That will be my motto

  • Nancy2581
    Nancy2581 Member Posts: 1,234
    edited December 2014

    hi Lillp07 - glad prognosis is good. Just curious what you mean about a small amount of spread and why you have to have all new scans? Hope I am not being nosey - I am also grade 1 so just curious. Good luck with those scans.

    Nancy

  • Lillp07
    Lillp07 Member Posts: 124
    edited December 2014

    all the scans I had done previously were breast only. The scans I'm having today and tomorrow are full body to check for spread. It sounds like a small amount of spread of cancer because of the blood results and low grade.

  • Lillp07
    Lillp07 Member Posts: 124
    edited December 2014

    Nancy, how many rounds of chemo did you have?

  • Nancy2581
    Nancy2581 Member Posts: 1,234
    edited December 2014

    I am having 16 lol. That sounds horrible, but it was AC every three weeks (most seem to do AC every 2) for 4 rounds and then 12 weekly taxol. I just finished taxol #9 and have just 3 more to go . I feel very fortunate that chemo hasn't been as awful as I thought it would be. Hope if you have to do it it's the same for you. Good luck with those scans - hope they show nothing.

    Nancy

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