November 2014 Starting Chemo Crew
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First round of AC is in, did anyone else experience tinnitus or a vibrating feeling in the ear? It's not crazy bad, just a little annoying, and I'm wondering if anyone had it.
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today was my first treatment. first i had blood work and of course they had problem finding the hole from the port,they finally got it. then went to see the doctor, and then had to do my treatments.
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Karen.. congrats on getting the first one done and over. Hope you have no SEs and if so may they be very minimal.
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Hi All! I too started my first chemo on 11/20/14 and had my Neulasta shot on 11/21/14. I have to do 4 treatments 21 days apart. I was good, except for a funny taste in my mouth until Saturday. Saturday and Sunday I was extremely tired, bad muscle pain in my hips and not able to eat alot I never got nausea's. I did take the Claritan but the muscle pain has been bad. I'm on day 6 and starting to feel normal except for the muscle pain and funny taste in my mouth.
My chemo is T/C. Anyone know if the next treatment will effect me worse or the same or be better?
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tigger2 ...thanks for responding to my posts. I did end up getting my period (2wks early!). It was right about the same time I had the back pain now that I think about it. I recall saying to a friend when the pain was just starting that it "felt like I was going to get my period" but I never had the intense pain I experienced this time. I guess maybe my body is just pissed off! Anyway, I see you also had a negative reaction during infusion. During my 1st round they administered the taxotere first to monitor for a reaction ... which I had.
They stopped immediately and loaded me up w/more benedryl, flushed with saline then started again, more slowly, and my body accepted (or gave in). I'm VERY concerend with how round 2 will go. Have you had 2 treatments yet? If so, did it go better??
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Good morning all! Today is Day 3 for me and all is still going pretty well. I haven't felt nausea but if I'm a little dizzy or off balance I will take a compazine. I usually take 1 before bed and 1 in morning and so far so good. Brushing with Biotene toothpaste and using that same mouth rinse as well as the salt/baking soda combo. Seems ok for now. Still do have a mild headache for a few days. Went for neulasta shot yesterday and that went fine. Took Claritan on day 1 and plan to take it every day throughout. I know it doesn't work for everyone but gotta try! Still drinking 100 oz of water. My appetite is normal so far.
Dhustedde , I'm on TC too. I'm not sure how next round will go. Wonder that myself. I think it's a combo of now you know what to expect so can prepare for your reactions, but a bit of a cumulative effect too. Hope it goes well!
Hope everyone is hanging in there with minimal SEs and can try to enjoy Thanksgiving. I know it's been really rough for some. Praying for us all ladies!
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enlm20Erica – Thanks for the response! Hope you are feeling well and with minimal SE!
Charlottesmommy – When I had the AC I never felt anything like that… but honestly, call and ask. I call every time I feel any discomfort. If there is a way to feel better I wanna know it!
dhustedde – The taste is the worst!! I hate it… but it eventually gets better… I am also feeling SO tired witch is very strange to me since I usually have so much energy… But even though I'm tired I'm having trouble sleeping….go figure. As for the effects on the next treatment I can tell from my experience that it is a bit cumulative, but I never had NEW symptoms… just felt a little bit more tired every time.
Yesterday I had a scare. Was taking a shower in the morning and felt super dizzy and had to sit down in the bathroom floor for a few minutes not to fall… Dizziness went on all day, couldn't drive, couldn't focus, my vision was getting blurred, and I was alone at home so it was pretty scary! I called my onc and he told me that I'm probably not drinking enough. Ughh it's SO hard, everything tastes awful..specially water! Any tips on what might be easier to drink?
Hope everyone is feeling well!!!
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Hi Marcela. That sounds like my day on Sunday, except I ended up in the emergency room. I was all alone in the house and got really lightheaded in the shower. Got out and had to lay on the floor for a few minutes. After that, walked to the bedroom to call my husband and passed out. Gave myself a nice bruise/contusion on my forehead and chin in the process! The combination of the hot steamy shower and the dehydration was what did it. Stay hydrated Ladies!
I haven't had the really bad taste yet. But some Ladies talk about drinking Gatorade or adding Gatorade powder to water to make it easier to drink. (?)
Been slowly feeling better. Thanks everyone for your well wishes. Going to my Sister-in-Law's for Thanksgiving. Hoping to have some kind of appetite by then! Have a great Holiday weekend everyone!
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Thank you Marcela, I have to go in for my Neulasta shot today, I was planning on asking then. Someone on the boards had suggested a powder electrolyte replacement, I don't remember who it was or which topic (My browser didn't open the link in a new window like it normally does). I ordered one of each flavor from amazon, it is supposed to come in by Saturday.
Real brewed decaf iced tea, lots of ice, has been working for me. Sometime I will mix unsweetened iced tea with 1/2 juice to mix it up.
My morning coffee tasted like it had been sitting on a hot burner for an hour or 3 (I use a Keurig). Hot tea was passable, so I guess I am on the fast track to reducing my caffeine intake again. Sucks, because I REALLY LOVE coffee.
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Hi everyone,
I'm fascinated at all the stories of other people besides me having some funky, unexplainable medical issues for the year leading up to the tumour discovery only to have them as mysteriously disappear after the removal. Weird and interesting - there's obviously a lot our bodies are telling us we have yet to interpret correctly.
I think I had a small episode of chemo brain yesterday. I had just come in from outside and was hot so tossed all my headgear aside. I have lost about 90% of my hair and now I look like I have my Great Uncle Johnnie's infamous comb-over. I tried to shave the remaining bits off but the electric razor hurt a bit and so I'm scared to go back and try. It keeps falling so I figure the rest will drop eventually - I can wait.
Anyways, a few minutes after I got changed into something comfortable the doorbell rang and I had the door fully open to the UPS guy and his trainee when I realized I'd not put a cap back on my head. Not only that, but because I'd been hot and sweaty when I came in, I knew what was left of my hair was probably sticking straight up like a sad little mowhawk. ARGHGH! I froze for a second and then figured it was too late to slam the door so I just acted all casual, like, yeah - this is how I always answer the door! The guy wasn't sure it was me and had to ask (I've had him come before) to make sure but other than that to his great credit he didn't blink an eye to what must have been quite an alarming sight. I actually had to pay for delivery so shut the door to get my wallet. My cap was sitting right there and I considered for a second putting it on, but then I figured it was too late anyways and would just make my discomfort even more obvious. I could hear them talking through the closed door and froze again trying to hear what they were saying, but he was just explaining to the trainee how to process a VIsa payment.
When I came back out, we finished the transaction and he even stayed for another minute or so making small-talk and not betraying even a little that anything was amiss.
When I got back inside I just laughed and laughed. I've been so careful up to now not to offend anyone's sensibilities with my mostly bald head, but really, people won't die if they see it. And some can obviously be quite cool about it.
Ironically, they were delivering two new cloche hats I'd ordered online. And not a moment too soon apparently!
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Lucyshoe, I love your sense of humor! That UPS guy has probably seen far worse. I bet they can tell some stories!
Bonnied: I couldn't "friend" you, but I "followed" you, so don't know if that means I'm in the club or not. I'll try looking up the group later.
All: These SEs all sound very familiar to me. I had a tinny ringing in my ears, Charlottsmommy, as I read your post. Stuff comes and goes. My hands are doing much better. Thanks to whomever told me about the Udderly Smooth skin cream. I got some on Amazon and put it on with some simple white cotton gloves I also got there and wore them overnight. What a difference today!
I'm now convinced that my dizzyness was due to dehydration, even 2 weeks out since my last infusion. So sick of drinking water, but gotta do it. I am now bringing my phone when I go for walks just in case I need to call my husband for help.
I think I will be able to enjoy Thanksgiving as I don't go in for the next one until Monday. Christmas won't be so nice this year, though!
I am thankful for my excellent medical care and insurance. I was told this week by my doctor that the Perjeta costs $20,000.00 per infusion! But I'm worth it. Happy Thanksgiving to everyone!
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Lucy, that is funny. But, maybe if more of us didn't "hide" our cancer, it would be a better reminder to others to keep checking. Everyone is different in their values and what they can emotionally handle, I don't mean to offend anyone. I do have foobs and I'm still waiting for my wig.
Tally, you are soooo worth it
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Wow! Tallie, pricy meds! I had no idea perjeta was like that. I thought Emend was pricy! (BTW, I sent you a friend request and will add you to the group soon. Our FB is around 12 now..and quickly growing.
Has anyone bought any of those headbands (like from TLC) or night caps?? I thought the headbands might be good for hat wearers. I may wait to shave my head when my first son returns from college on Dec 11. My chemo journey starts monday..so i am behind the november group and early in the Dec group.
Lucy, thanks for sharing your experience and insights from it. It sounds like you both handled it very well. It reminds me of a client encounter back in the summer right after i got my diagnosis.. she answered the door (we have worked together for years) and she had no hair or very little. I asked her how she was and she told me her story about ovarian cancer. So we swapped stories and hugs and moved on. We have kindred spirits out there that come out from the most unexpected places. And it is a gift i think.
Charlottesmommy, bummer on the coffee, tea, and liquids in general! I am not looking forward to my foodie tastebuds being violated by the SE of chemo! Ugh.. I read about a homemade electrolyte: 1 qt water + 1 tsp salt + tsp baking soda + 1 tsp lemon juice or something like that. I will find it and repost it here. Can't find it at the moment.
Happy Thanksgiving!!
Bonnie
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amylsp – I`m so sorry you had to go through that! It was scary enough just the "blackout" but actually passing out must have been terrible!
TallyLassie – You are having exactly the same drugs as I am so yes, it was probably from dehydration…most of my SE have been from that according to my MO… I`m trying to drink fresh watermelon juice now, since it is mostly water. I try not to drink industrialized beverages (Gatorade, soda, bottled iced tea…this kind of stuff) mostly to avoid the high sodium intake, but since water has been barely tolerable I think I'll have to rethink that. And yes, Perjeta is SUPER expensive. My insurance is NOT covering it so far because apparently coverage is only approved for metastatic cancer witch is not my case…I'm already in touch with a lawyer to see what my family and I can do about changing their decision…so there is this extra stress on top of everything else. I`m gonna do it no matter what costs, we are ALL worth it!!!!!!!!!!!
lucyshoe – Loved your story and your sense of humor but I agree, the UPS guy is probably used to being surprised by peoples looks when opening the door! But seriously, wouldn't it be great if bald was the new "normal"? No worrying about taking care of hair, styling, or anything like that… and when you want to look good, just put on a wig and voila! I would LOVE that!
I'm not feeling anything yet this time, but the other time I had chemo I had serious chemo brain and didn't even realize it until it was already fading away… Like the day of my last chemo infusion for example… a lot of my friends went to my house afterwards to celebrate that I was done with treatment, but I barely remember who was there, what we talked about and what happened… a few weeks later was when I realized this! Another thing.. I would wake up and be sure that it was a Wednesday for example, think about what stuff I had to do, plan my day in my head, only to realize a few minutes later that it was not Wednesday, it was Thursday already… very confusing. But for me it was mostly memory stuff. And it went away like 3 months after I stopped taking the drugs.
Also one other thing that I haven't mentioned before… On the six months of the previous chemo I gained 15kg…that's about 30lbs… the dexamethasone really builds up an appetite and I just couldn't stop eating… but since I started taking the drugs again I feel like I lost a little bit of weight. So one more difference that I felt from the ACTH to the TCHP.
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Bonnie,
Coffee is the only issue so far. I ordered the ultima powder from amazon because I try to avoid hfcs and artificial colors,flavor, and sweeteners. I will share how they fare with the recently assaulted taste buds, as well as the rest of the family. The cost on Amazon is about the same as buying a case of gatorade at the warehouse club.
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Marcella. So sorry to here about the reoccurance. So soon. How do they find it again?. Just curious. You were on the same plan I am currently on which is pretty aggressive chemotherapy. What the heck.your story frightens me. You are strong.
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Hi Wendy (Tigger2), I was just going thru the discussion board to see if i have missed anyone who wanted to be a part of the FB group. I didn't see you there so wanted to follow up here. PM me your email and I will send you an invite.
bonnie
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Anyone experience extreme soreness in upper chest and upper back when laying down??
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Sheeba, yes I've noticed soreness from the back of my neck, shoulders, and down my back. It just hurts if I touch it so far. I don't feel soreness in my chest right now. It's not bad now. Hope it starts feeling better for you.
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Thanks for starting this group...I started 4 dose dense rounds of AC on November 10th. Just had my second dose this Monday....so far I seem to being doing better with less side effects from the second round...slight bone pain from neulasta shot but still better than first go round. Halfway done with AC then on to Taxol--not sure if that will be 4 dose dense or once every 12 weeks mixed with carbo platin. Hair loss started this week so I took control and shaved it which was empowering....the anxiety about losing it seems to have been worse than it actually being gone...
Wore my wig first the first time all day yesterday...it was hot....think I'll only wear it for work.
My biggest side effect right now is the inability to sleep more than 4-5 hours even though I am tired...anyone have any tricks helping them with sleeping consistently at night. Walking helps with side effects and lots of water has been helping....still have metal taste in mouth and decrease appetite but overall feel better than first round. Port is feeling better too...I had port placement and first chemo on same day.
For those in the NoVa area are you finding support groups helpful? I met a survivor through this discussion board and she has been an amazing support to me and happens to live in the area. Right now the one on one dialog works best for me...but I am contemplating supports groups. Thoughts?
Thanks for letting me chime in.....
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Janiner – Thank you. Actually it is kind of a crazy story, I was very very lucky now that I think about it. When I was to have the surgery I had to choose btw a BMX and a Lumpectomy, and since I was only 23yo, no kids, the doctors pushed for the most conservative approach and I went for it. After my lumpectomy I had radiation (I did not handle radiation very well, my skin is still dark, muscle is not recovered, even over a year after), which caused a "ball" (felt like a mass) to form around internal scar tissue that remained from the surgery. The docs kept a close eye on it, but that's was all it was: remains of surgical manipulation. So I went on with my life
You know that when you're done with treatment and all well you'll have to keep doing periodic tests to make sure everything is fine, right? So, that was me. Every 2 or 3 months I would get mammograms, ultrasounds, and it all seemed great. Last September my doc routinely ordered a breast MRI with the other tests, and the doctor who was in the room with me for the test said she got worried about the area with the "scar tissue" and would feel more comfortable if I had a biopsy, just to be sure. I had the biopsy, with the needle guided through ultrasound, waited very nervously for the results. Got a phone call from my MO saying that it was fine, it was nothing, the biopsy was negative and I could relax. Two days later the doctor calls again and asks me to his office for a meeting with him and the MRI doctor, Dr. Ana. She explained to me that she was not satisfied with the results, that the biopsy might not have gotten enough tissue, or maybe it was enough, but not from the exact area that was concerning her, and she would like to do it again, but this time the needle would be guided by a mammogram which would give more precision in my case. I obviously said yes and we did the procedure the next day. Two days later I got the results and it was cancer again. So basically if it weren't for the "pushiness" in Dr. Ana's part I would probably only catch this months from now. I literally own my life to her and her competence. Then I had the BMX, very clear margins, nodes negatives, and I was seriously hoping to skip chemo this time but since I was stage III, her 2 +, my onc said no way. So bye bye hair again…
Basically, if I had done the mastectomy on the first place I wouldn't be here, I wouldn't have had to go through the nightmare that was radiation (I hated it), but this is life. "If I had known then what I know now" is a phrase that can really drive you crazy, so I try not to think it. I feel that it is not fair sometimes, I'm so young, I'm single…I graduated from university and I was ready to start my life when I had to deal with all of this, so I pushed my life for a year. And now I'm doing it again. How am I gonna get a career, meet someone? Time is passing. I was 23, and now when I'm done with treatment I'll be 26. I feel like this 3 years were stolen from me. But at the sime time I feel like we only get in life what we are built do handle. If this is all happening to me it is because I'm sure I can do it. And every single person has their own struggle right? This is my reality now, I've done it once and I'm gonna do it again. We all are!
I think I wrote too much lol sorry…
SCVA – I do have trouble sleeping, but since I'm already on so much I'm trying not to take anything strong to help with it so some nights I just take Benadryl and it seems to help.. My MO said its fine. As for support groups I have never tried, just talking one on one (witch I do enjoy), but am now considering it. I also try to write a lot about what I'm feeling and read it a few days later. It feels very empowering to so what I overcame. Hope it helps…
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SCVA, when I was first diagnosed 14 years ago, I received a lot of support from the Young Survival Coalition. I was even their regional coordinator for a few years. I met a lot of nice women whom I'm still friends with today. However, now that I'm 54, I'm too old for that group so I've only been on these message boards. Where in VA do you live? I'm in Springfield. I know there's a Life with Cancer program in Fairfax and I signed up for one of their Look Good, Feel Better programs on the 8th
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For those of you having trouble sleeping, my oncologist recommended melotoninor Benadryl.
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Hi all Happy Thanksgiving! Well I slept better than thought. Up every 2 hours but at least it's sleep right? Going to hopefully enjoy some turkey. Big "D" has come for visit. Pain is tolerable with 800mg ibuprofen. I agree...missing my restful nights. I also wonder if I made correct choice in doing lumpectomy vs BMX. Skip this chemo just! Enjoy your family time ladies and be thankful we have each others support! I am!! :-)
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Hi SCVA, Glad you joined our group. There are a lot of neat ladies here. Both Leslie and I are in NoVa. I live in Sterling in Loudoun County. All my medical things go on at Inova Loudoun. How about you? Where are you located? I'm sorry to hear about sleepless nights. I hope I will be able to sleep once my chemo begins next Monday. Hoping that herbal relaxing teas will help with the sleep times.
I find that the support groups here are wonderful because they let you know you are not alone and we will all experience symptoms on that big list of SEs hopefully mild.
As for local support, When I was first diagnosed and chose my medical practitioner team, they encouraged me to reach out and connect with the beast nurse navigators at the hospitals. They are smiling rays of sunshine that tell you its all going to be ok and have their own experiences to how you their proof too.
If you are interested in joining a secret FB page I set up this week, PM me with your email and I will send you an invite to the group. No one can see the page but us.
What is amazing to me is how all of us, no matter what part of the world we are have very similar treatment plans and experiences. MarcelaBR, I hope you feel good about the choices you have made and that this round will become easier with each passing day.
Some of our group have been quiet for several days. I send warm healing thoughts and prayers to all of you and am thankful for all you share so openly here. Thank you for welcoming me to ride the train with each of you too. xoxo
Happy Thanksgiving..
Bonnie
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Hi all: I just replied to a post and realized that I got bumped to the December 2014 Chemo group! Not sure how that happened, but I'm back with November. Guess it all blends together. I'm grateful to be feeling pretty good this Thanksgiving. Infusion #2 on Monday, so I'm taking care of business while I still have some energy and a brain.
I'm going to attempt a glass of champagne at my sister's this afternoon for Thanksgiving. I love wine (I know, a risk factor) but have had no taste whatsoever for it since I started chemo nearly 3 weeks ago. That is a blessing, as I need to stay healthy and hydrated.
Marcela, you did exactly what I would have done were I you. Thank God for your cautious doctor. Good luck with this round and your unfortunate legal battle. I would mortgage my house to get the Perjeta. The only way I could be approved for it in the US was to get it pre-surgery, so that was an easy decision.
Many of you have already had surgery, and I'm meeting with a plastic surgeon soon to go over possibilities for the spring when I get mine. I'm 58, so appearance not as important to me. Based on what I'm seeing here, I'm thinking of bilateral mastectomy even though one side is OK. I want a matched set and I don't want to worry about any more surprises. The expanders are kinda scary, though. I suppose I'll check in on surgery discussion boards at a later date.
I'm thankful for this forum and for all of you as we go through this together. Happy Thanksgiving!
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Hey Bonnied! I sent you a PM with my name info. Thanks for getting us all setup!
Midlife - I did have another reaction with my second treatment. We started out with 25ml of benedryl and all was going well until the very end! So with 10 minutes to go we had to stop the taxotere, rinse the line and hang another 25 ml of benedryl. The SE's went away after about 30 minutes and we resumed the tax. From now on I guess I will take Claritin before I go for the infusion and they will hanf 50 ml right away of the benedryl to get me going. We'll see how that goes! Good luck to us sensitive chicks! My nurse said my body definately knows what it likes and what it does not!!
Btw... for what its worth... I just hate the jitters and heart racing that occurs after the infusions! Ugh. Can't wait until day 5 when it all calms down - for me! Be well everyone!!
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Happy Turkey day all. Someone asked for suggestions to add to water. I normally would put half of a lemon, sliced, in my water bottle. It now is too acidic for me so I've switched to berries. I don't care for plain water either.
My appetite came back a little the last few days. But I still vomit frequently. I try not to take the nausea meds unless I need them. They give me headaches, and constipate me even worse. My hair is sore, but isn't falling out yet. My cuticles are sore too, but nothing bad. I did have this burning electric like pain on my left side pretty bad since my infusion. It's starting to let up. I wonder if it's the chemo doing it's job.
Monday I go to be harpooned for hopefully the last time (biopsy it's for the clinical trial). Also having another MRI, joy. Then the next Monday is chemo round 2, electric boogaloo....
Does anyone know about sharing cups? Is it safe? My toddler is always trying to get my water and I try to keep him away.
I'd like to be in the fb group, but aparently can't be found, someone add me pls, Dawn Meyer, with a background of me and my dad, me in a Bruins shirt.
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Dawn, I just starting using tea tree oil on my nails. Not sure if it will help or not.
I'm thinking we probably shouldn't be sharing cups because our immune systems are down from chemo
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I had that thought, but about giving the dog my leftovers. My kids are a few years older. If they tell us to close the lid to flush, its probably not a good idea to share cups either. But, like Leslie said, it's probably more for our own benefit to not expose ourselves to the kids' germs any more than we have to.
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