Winter rads 2014-2015

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  • Birdgirl11
    Birdgirl11 Member Posts: 51
    edited November 2014

    Perfectly - what city in MI do you go to for treatment? I go to Lemmen-holton pavillion in Grand Rapids. So far (only 2 treatments in) they are very professional

  • perfectlyimperfect39
    perfectlyimperfect39 Member Posts: 25
    edited November 2014

    I go for radiation at Josephine Ford Cancer Center downriver. My oncologist is in Dearborn my surgeon is in West Bloomfield, and plastic surgeon is in Novi. So far all 4 places have been awesome. LOVE my doctors and staff. I'm 20 minutes from the Ohio border. So a couple hours from Grand Rapids.

  • JustJean
    JustJean Member Posts: 327
    edited November 2014

    I'm reading about breathing for left-side rads. I have lung issues and barely breathe normally. How in the world do they handle people like me? I even had to quit singing in my chorus because I can't do the breath work.


  • Nomatterwhat
    Nomatterwhat Member Posts: 587
    edited November 2014

    CAS4 - You are just hysterical!!!!  You made my night!!  But I don't understand the scotch tape, sharpie artwork portion of your treatment.  I go in lay down and my techs dot my tattoos with a sharpie and 7 minutes later they help me up off the table, wipe off my four little dots and I go back to work. 

    Today, when I was waiting, a nice lady who was just coming out with what looked like her daughter, leaned over and gave me a hug and said "God bless you and your journey you have been through".  I was so stunned, after she left I asked the tech standing there what just happened?

    Perfectlyimperfect, I do the same thing.  I put on a sleeveless t-shirt, then my bra and then my work clothes.  Sometimes it gets a little hot having on an extra shirt, but at my age my fan is my best friend and the further I get into radiation, the bigger the fan I may need. 

  • Hope50
    Hope50 Member Posts: 103
    edited November 2014

    good evening friends, I had no. 14 today. They gave me some cream for the itching. Said it is common. Saw my RO. I lost 6lbs in a week and they wasn't real happy about that. I can stand to lose weight but they said right now is not the time to do it. I'm not trying to I just have NO appetite at all.

    I didn't sleep good last night. Does anyone else hurt on the side they are getting rads when you lay down?


  • Beachbaby65
    Beachbaby65 Member Posts: 68
    edited November 2014

    justjean, it depends on where they need to target. You might not need to hold your breath. If you, do the amt of time you hold your breath just makes it go quicker or slower. If you can only hold it for say ten seconds then it will just take a little longer. It will still go quick. I hold my breath for an average 20 seconds which means it takes two times for twenty sec each on the right and two on the left. There have been a couple times where I couldn't last 20 and it took 3 times. I've never been in there for more than five or six mins except for the first treatment.

    Hope50 you and I are even on the number of rads and today it feels like I have a slight sunburn, and there's a bit of itchiness. I do have a lot of tenderness on the outside of my breast and man is my nipple getting sensitive.

    So far I've not had them use markers on me or a wet towel. It definitely varies depending on where your being treated.


  • PoppyK
    PoppyK Member Posts: 1,805
    edited November 2014

    Hi Everyone,

    I have my final chemo infusions scheduled for tomorrow, so it looks like I will be moving on to Rads in December.

    The rads nurse mentioned having another CT scan prior to the rads simulation. My last CT was prior to my detour through chemoland, which means it was in Sept. Is this the usual procedure?

    How are those of you doing rads in late December and early January handling the rad schedule with the holidays?

    Poppy

  • Beachbaby65
    Beachbaby65 Member Posts: 68
    edited November 2014

    Hi Poppyk welcome to the winter group! The ct is the tool they use to make sure they know exactly where they need to target your radiation. They should do it during your simulation . As for the holidays in oregon we won't do treatment on turkey day but we will do it the day before and the day after. I might not be getting my yearly 50% off socks, sheets, and towels on Black Friday. Lol not sure I would have the energy to shop anyway.

    This is an awesome group and you will fit right in

  • Gongshow16
    Gongshow16 Member Posts: 26
    edited November 2014

    perfectly imperfect :

    I had a pity party today too! Came out of rad #4, blood work and oncologist appointment to discuss tamoxefin- and just cried in the car! I'm tired of looking and feeling soooo not like myself. If I hear another list of side effects I'm going to scream!!! Grrrr. I have 30 rads altogether, herceptin for a year and then tamoxefin for 10 years!!! I don't know if I'll ever feel like this is behind me..

    Not a great day today...:-(

  • CoyoteNV
    CoyoteNV Member Posts: 575
    edited November 2014

    This is our list of Winter Warriors as of November 25 - I'll do my best to keep it current. Let me know if it needs a change.

    ILCMom - December 15

    HockeyCat - December

    Minnielee - December

    SandyLovesLucy - December 1

    Nomatterwhat - November 17

    Hope50 - November 5

    Linzer – December 16

    Mmtagirl - November 3

    CoyoteNV - November 10

    Shuf - unknown

    surrrrana99 - December

    MarisaG - December

    Beachbaby65 - November 11

    Perfectlyimperfect39 - November 23

    Pita119 - December 1

    Coloradocancermom - December

    CAS4 - November 6

    InGodshands - unknown

    MagicalBean - October 28 ish

    LMVerma - November 18

    Yikes1 - November 17?

    katieC12 – November 18

    MeneK – October 24

    Beachlady28 – November 17

    Gongshow18 - November 20

    eileenpg - December 1

    JustJean - December 5

    Lush61 - November 13

    Purrrrana99 - January 5

    Bippy625 - December 22

    bjeaneg - ?

    Windgirl - January ?

    Birdgirl11 - November 23

    Rosa54 - November 13

    dennyvol - November 5

    PoppyK - December ?

    Lorrilynne - November 18

  • CoyoteNV
    CoyoteNV Member Posts: 575
    edited November 2014

    I had a chat with my RO yesterday regarding cover up procedures in various clinics. He was actually a bit suprised about some of the stories I told him. He had a couple thoughts. It might be because the technicians need to see the marks during the treatments - depending on the equipment being used. It is not necessary to expose the skin for the radiation to be effective. He also said that patient comfort - both mental and physical - is important. They do a patient survey to determine if there are ways to make the process better. He also mentioned that there are other clinics offering treatments and it is important to address all the patients' issues to be successful.

    Tomorrow will be #13 and thus far no problems. We'll see.

  • Nomatterwhat
    Nomatterwhat Member Posts: 587
    edited November 2014

    Poppy, Welcome to your new home.  When you go for your sim and tattoos, a tip -- take a Xanax.  I didn't and laid there, not being able to move, with my arms above my head in a criss-cross position on a hard as cement table for about an hour.  By the time I was done, the tech had to help me move my arms and get help to get me up off that table.  Also, wear an old shirt and bra, so the sharpie roadmaps don't ruin your clothes.  With the holidays coming up, I would have been free this weekend, but the machine broke down last Friday, so I get to go in this Friday to make up for that day.  As far as Xmas, we haven't discussed that yet. 

    CoyoteNV, interesting that the skin doesn't have to be exposed for the radiation to be effective.  I am laying there totally exposed from the waist up.  it really doesn't bother me anymore, I have nothing left to see.  Thanks for keeping the list updated. 

  • Birdgirl11
    Birdgirl11 Member Posts: 51
    edited November 2014

    Justjean - I am having left side rads and they have told me to just relax and breathe normally. Hopefully you will have the same type of experience - no breath holding at all!

    Gongshow - so sorry to hear about being so overwhelmed. All the treatments and side effects and doctor's visits can drive you crazy and I dare say we've all been there. Hugs to you as there are just some days that are rotten and depressing. Please know I am sending prayers and encouragement your way.

    Coyote - thanks for the update. Encouraging to read that you are on #13 already with no SE's. I hope your good report continues.


  • JustJean
    JustJean Member Posts: 327
    edited November 2014

    Thanks, Birdgirl. I sure hope it's that way for me too because between all the side effects and the impact on my life and everything else about this crappy stuff, the thought of having to hold my breath makes me want to hyperventilate. I cannot hold my breath long - they'll be cancelling the next appointment because I'll take up so much time!

    My MO called last night, late. My PET scan shows scattered lesions on my bones. One more thing to worry about - is it the arthritis or is it bone mets? And I am really close to trying for a disability pension if I qualify.

  • HockeyCat
    HockeyCat Member Posts: 222
    edited November 2014

    Coyote - Thank you for keeping track of our start date. I had simulation today and Am starting rad next Wednesday, 12/3. 28 + 5 boost, so 33 treatment in total.

    Poppy - my RO said they are only closed on Christmas Day and New Years Day. It's going to be a busy holiday season for me... It's annoying that I have to wait until my first treatment day to schedule the rest of the appointments. They are pretty busy, so my first appointment is during lunch time. I live close by the center, but work a half hour away from there. Ideally I can do in the morning then go to work, but it didn't look like they don't give me much choice for the first few weeks...

  • Pita119
    Pita119 Member Posts: 85
    edited November 2014

    Hi all,

    Went for my port film appt today & it's official, I start my treatments on 12/1 and will finish 12/29. I was really surprised...when I had the SIM appt, they gave me 3 tattoos. Today, I got 7 more tattoos and these hurt. But, when RO checked the films and checked the markings the girl did, I guess he felt it was necessary for more tattoos. Anyway, I just can't wait to get this over with. The timing of this stinks with the holidays coming up. My daughter & her family will be coming home for Christmas and I can't wait to see them especially my 2 year old granddaughter. They moved to Illinois 15 months ago and I miss them terribly.

  • CoyoteNV
    CoyoteNV Member Posts: 575
    edited November 2014

    JustJean - I'm so sorry that you are dealing with this scary new situation. I hope you find out quickly that it is arthritis, I send you prayers.

  • perfectlyimperfect39
    perfectlyimperfect39 Member Posts: 25
    edited November 2014

    Well had third treatment today and I'm already getting red. I look at my tissue expander breast and just hope it's going to look and feel some what normal when this is all done. Right now it feels like a rock and is red so I guess I have a lava rock boob. Lol I don't think I can wear a bra if it keeps getting red. I'm thinking about getting this breast lift tape just to lift my other side so I don't need a bra. Has anyone heard of this or used it.image

  • Hope50
    Hope50 Member Posts: 103
    edited November 2014

    Has anyone had any back pain on the side of their rads?

  • linzer
    linzer Member Posts: 164
    edited November 2014

    Just found out that I'm officially starting on 12/16. 20 hypofractionated treatments, whole breast only. Let the games begin :)

  • perfectlyimperfect39
    perfectlyimperfect39 Member Posts: 25
    edited November 2014

    Went for fourth treatment today and saw RO The nurse and him said I should not be getting red already from treatments. They said it was my expander. Has anyone else gotten red by fourth one. My breast was red underneath before treatment but I just find it odd that my whole breast is red now. I say it has to be the treatments.

  • CoyoteNV
    CoyoteNV Member Posts: 575
    edited November 2014

    Perfectly...  I hate to raise the possibility, but... is there any chance of expander infection?  Are you running a fever?  Is your breast area hot, tender or swollen?  Stay on top of this.

    I finished #13 today, and there is no skin discoloration at all yet.  I have implants at this point; the expanders are gone.

  • JustJean
    JustJean Member Posts: 327
    edited November 2014

    Is anyone seeing a physical therapist while taking rads? We have a woman locally who works with bc patients exclusively, and I have made an appt to see her in a couple of weeks to see if she can help me through the parts that can be damaging to me. I hate to lose more range of motion that what I already have, you know?

    Perfectly, that sounds pretty odd to me, and I would also think it was the treatment. I hope someone with more info comes along.

  • mmtagirl
    mmtagirl Member Posts: 509
    edited November 2014

    Perfectly, I have had expanders since January. I was not red underneath before starting rads. However, I finished #19 today and I am bright red underneath and have some red dots to complement the pink above and up to my collarbone. The nurse and doctor are both saying it is due to treatment. It was first noticed during my treatment on Sunday and has gotten progressively worse. Some itching and minor discomfort. I was told to make sure I am using the cream they gave me when I started and the hydrocortisone cream I was given last week. I didn't. Optics anything but a bit of pink after #4.

    Just jean, I am not seeing a PT but have not had range of motion issues. I am back to doing regular exercise, albeit, not quite at the strength before BC just yet.

  • perfectlyimperfect39
    perfectlyimperfect39 Member Posts: 25
    edited November 2014

    Thank you everyone. I will pay close attention. I had a terrible time with pain ever since I had the expander. Finally feeling better. It was red before rads but just underneath. My ps didn't want to take chances and put me on antibiotics. I will see with the four day break how it seems.

    Just Jean: I start physical therapy Tuesday. I want to be able to lift my arm higher. I think I have some chording or axillary webbing going on.

    Happy Thanksgiving everyone!

  • SandyLovesLucy
    SandyLovesLucy Member Posts: 204
    edited November 2014

    Perfectly, I'm sorry you are having a tough time and hope things will resolve soon.

    Just jean, sending prayers and good thoughts your way. Hope you get good news soon.

    I'm glad to see so many getting through rads pretty well. I'm still scheduled to start next Monday, 12/1 but have to see the RO first to get the okay if the problem with my breast hasn't resolved by then. It is still swollen and painful with cellulitis/seroma and I'm continuing on antibiotic medication. I'm hoping for no delay because I'm so ready to get this part of the program going! I had a good visit with. MO this week and found out my echo was okay so I'll be good to continue Herceptin. Lots to be grateful for.

    I hope you all have a wonderful Thanksgiving surrounded by friends, family and fun. :)

    Hugs, Sandy

  • linzer
    linzer Member Posts: 164
    edited November 2014

    Jean, I'm going to PT now to keep ahead of one small but stubborn cord that developed in my arm. I will continue through rads as long as I can find an appt. time that doesn't conflict. I've found it to be invaluable in healing and reducing scar tissue.


    Sandy and Perfectly, I hope you both get answers and resolution soon!

    Good luck! Linda

  • KatieC12
    KatieC12 Member Posts: 19
    edited November 2014

    I hit the halfway point yesterday, and so far, the only side effect is some fatigue. I've got mostly morning appointments the rest of the way, and go into work afterwards. I think there might be a point next week where I just come home. Yesterday I considered leaving an hour early but talked myself out of it. I find the most irritating thing is being shifted around in the set up. When they try to shift my body a little to the left or right, I think their method shifts the bones but leaves the skin where it was because they use the sheet to roll me. My skin doesn't move on it although the rest of my body might. Does that make sense?

  • Lorrilynne
    Lorrilynne Member Posts: 23
    edited November 2014

    Hello everyone! Coyote- you can add me to the list for winter rads. I started November 18 and will have 33 total treatments. I've done 7 so far and I'm already tired! Is this normal? I'm working full time and running a small business of mine and I think this whole "ordeal" is catching up to me. Lately I've been so emotional and quietly having pity parties but always have my "game face" on around others. I've noticed I'm losing weight and not sleeping well.

    Question #2- Does anyone else have sporadic pains in their breast? Some are worse than others but having shooting pains.

    After reading about some of the clinics and techs elsewhere, I'm feeling so fortunate to have a beautiful facility with warm and caring techs!

    I keep saying it's just a bump in the road! (Now if I could truly believe it I'd be great!)


  • KatieC12
    KatieC12 Member Posts: 19
    edited November 2014

    Hi Lorrilynne, welcome to the winter rads thread. You started rads the same day that I did.

    I did have shooting pains for the first few weeks after the lumpectomy, but can't say I've had them since. I do have a little tenderness in the muscle under the arm that's new, and I did have severe tenderness at the top inside of my arm after the surgery, but thankfully it's pretty much gone now. My sleep is a bit restless and I'm thinking of bringing up the vaporizer into the bedroom. I hope you can get some rest.

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