Starting Chemo October 2014

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  • Nancy6540
    Nancy6540 Member Posts: 50
    edited November 2014

    Mandy, I didn't say your clots won't go away, I said the Coumadin will not dissolve them. Dr. Google it. Your body has to reabsorb them. Unfortunately, if it doesn't it forms a scab over the clot. The surgeon said not to worry, but I feel that will make the blood flow lessen.

    Leto, your headache and dizziness could be from a clot in your jugular. I was dizzy from mine also.

    Nancy

  • Leto
    Leto Member Posts: 42
    edited November 2014

    Nancy6540, ml143333: Thank you for this information. It's good to know what to watch for and also what to ask the doctor for when it happens. Kowledge is power!

    Sorry this has happened to you and that more drugs are involved because of it. That's all we need - more drugs.

  • Ilovecoasters
    Ilovecoasters Member Posts: 199
    edited November 2014

    I really hate the Neulasta! I know it's helping me, but wow. Three hours later and I'm already hurting.

  • ml143333
    ml143333 Member Posts: 658
    edited November 2014

    Come to think of it, I was light headed and dizzy some last week.  Makes me wonder if the clot(s) were forming then. 

    Well...leaving soon to get another Lovenox shot and blood work!

    Happy Friday!

  • She-Angel
    She-Angel Member Posts: 149
    edited November 2014

    Round 2 is done with just a slight headache. That "red devil" is an interesting mix. I got clumps of hair coming out here and there, glad to be shaving it tomorrow. Although the red when I go to the bathroom is still a mind blower. Got to say the port is a game changer, glad I got it and will pray I have no problems. It cut out my time by an hr and some change from the last infusion. So the doc says I have 4 weeks with the AC, then 6 weeks of taxol and should be finishing up between 14 -18 weeks from now pending how I do. Then a month to let the body do its thing, then surgery. I say that to get it out so I can see there is a light at the end of the tunnel. Because my next treatment would be the Friday after Thanksgiving and the offices are closed the following Monday December 1st the day before my bday. And I was wondering what to do this year.lol

    They want me to start taking laxatives which I really don't want to but I know I need to. Any natural remedies folks trying that are working? I eat prunes, have apple and raisins in my oatmeal, sprinkle Metamucil on food....I even had a milkshake and being lactose intolerant you would think it would work. Happy Friday!


  • Leto
    Leto Member Posts: 42
    edited November 2014

    She-Angel - Congrats on getting thru #2. I just finished #3 yesterday and Neulasta today. I am also doing 4 treatments with the AC, but only 4 weeks of taxol every - 2 weeks but I now have Thanksgiving week off. Woohoo! I too am having surgery after chemo. I can't imagine going through this after surgery like so many other ladies on this forum. I feel very fortunate that my side effects to the chemo are pretty minimal.

    As far as laxative - I tried the baking soda treatment. Google it. I have to tell you though - it worked for me. Worked almost too good. It was pretty immediate - have an open bathroom on stand=by. Good luck

  • She-Angel
    She-Angel Member Posts: 149
    edited November 2014

    Tks Leto baking soda it is. I know baking soda has a lot of uses, never knew about that one. Just bought a new box yesterday for something totally different. Looking it up now.

  • cbooklvr
    cbooklvr Member Posts: 66
    edited November 2014

    Sorry to hear about everyone's port issues, hope the blood thinners help.

    I had chemo #2 yesterday and nulesta shot today. I am feeling ok with loss of appetite and funky taste buds. Hopefully the weekend goes well.

    My hair started coming out last week, now have a buzz cut will try to post a picture tomorrow. Wishing all an uneventful weekend.

    Cherice

  • Sjacobs146
    Sjacobs146 Member Posts: 770
    edited November 2014

    Round 2 is in the books for me. Trouble with the IV line today. Had to do a new one after the pre-chemo meds. It was swollen and my nurse wasn't comfortable doing the chemo I the vein, so we had to switch. I have thick skin, and even after hydrating, the veins don't pop. Neulasta shot tomorrow. Date of last treatment is being changed to Dec. 29, was supposed to be Dec. 26. Now I don't know if I have an excuse to miss the annual trip to the in-laws 😭.

    For all you ladies with constipation, I'd trade places in a second. Last round I had 6 days of diarrhea which resulted in bleeding hemorrhoids and a UTI. Hang in there ladies!

  • Becca9800
    Becca9800 Member Posts: 79
    edited November 2014

    I'm feeling bad for all of you having issues with your ports and clots. Just more troubles you don't need right now. Repeat as needed "This too shall pass". Wishing you all only the best.

    Question for the masses: how many days following a tx are you experiencing what you think is nausea? I'm 10 days out and think this not-good feeling in my gut is nausea. I just don't know but it makes me feel not well. So is it in my head or is it in my gut?

  • armamp95
    armamp95 Member Posts: 44
    edited November 2014

    Becca, I also have an ongoing queasiness ... not quite nauseous, and ongoing diarrhea. I am at Day 9 following my second TCH infusion.

  • Fabian59
    Fabian59 Member Posts: 23
    edited November 2014

    I have just finished treatment 3 of Taxotere and Cytoxin and feel pretty good.  I have one more treatment left on 12\3\14 then on to 6 weeks of radiation.  Then have to wait 3\4 months for implant.  Got expanders and only have 2 more filups to get to my 450ccs per my plastic surgeon.  I have to say that I really love all my doctors.  I have read back on several of these boards especially the cold caps users and feel very fortunate that I am being treated with respect and dignity.  My oncologist said I did not need a port so I did what she said .  Only complaint is after 3 infusions those three veins are gone.  Hope they come back some day.  I have had absolutely no nausea or vomiting because of the anti nausea drugs that I take before my infusions and they also give it to to IV before the drugs.  I am using cold caps and have had alot of thinning of my hair but will be happy with what I have left after my last infusion and feel I will still be ahead od the game. My first Neulasta shot was painful but the second one was not bad and today I am 3 days past my third shot and treating myself with Claratin and 1000 mg of Tylenol for 5 days post injection and it really helps.  I just pray to get through the holidays without getting depressed as sometimes I find myself worrying about the cancer.  I wish everyine good luck in yuour treatments.  Be good to yourself and baby yourself during your rough days.  I did not miss any work the first treatment but I have alot of sick time built up so after thr last two treatments am staying home to get through the 4-5 days post infusion.  Alot of people come to work sick and as our immune systems are so low I think it is better to baby ourselves.  

    Good luck everyone.  

  • BookLady1
    BookLady1 Member Posts: 253
    edited November 2014

    Wishing a peaceful weekend for everyone. I have my 4th and last AC and Neurlasta this week before 12 weeks of Taxol and another discussion thread to follow! I'm exhausted thinking about SE's. I hear you, ladies! Constipation, diarrhea, hemorrhoids, nausea, no appetite, funky tastes and smell, back and hip pain, insomnia, anxiety and steroid crazies. Luckily, I find sympathy and remedies from you. Wouldn't want to do this without you.

    Nausea - it is with me most of the time. Not severe, just hovering. I work around it and try remedies - trial and error. Sometimes the remedies are worse than the queasy feeling, you know? ,




  • nottoday
    nottoday Member Posts: 162
    edited November 2014

    Dear all,

    For those w nausea occurring a number of days after infusion, a suggestion I received was a Zofran and half a dexamethasone every 12 hours. Check w your MO, of course.

  • MJS1266
    MJS1266 Member Posts: 222
    edited November 2014

    On infusion one, I had a bit of an upset stomach the first night and then just unsettled for several days. On round two, they gave me an iv of compazine after all the chemo. Since then no upset stomach or anything close to nausea. However, My appetite is crazy. This round on day 5, I am non-stop hungry. Trying to eat protein and healthy foods, but it's a bit weird to go from not much appetite to starving. I take Zofran starting day 5 and take it at least one through day 7 which seems to do the trick.


  • Becca9800
    Becca9800 Member Posts: 79
    edited November 2014

    Thanks for the responses. I appreciate knowing that what I thought I was feeling isn't in my head. After thinking it through I can understand why we'd still have nausea after 10 days and the lasting diarrhea and the mouth sores. Our GI tracts, from mouth to the other end is mucosal tissue, rapidly dividing cells, and chemo affects rapidly dividing cells. So if I can have mouth sores 10 days after tx, and I do this round, I have to think my stomach lining looks the same way. No wonder there is nausea as my stomach heals.Might be time to try try ginger chews to quell the always present queasiness. I need to eat.

  • Ilovecoasters
    Ilovecoasters Member Posts: 199
    edited November 2014

    Just got a call canceling tonight's Look Good program. The facilitator has the flu and is not able to reschedule until January. Really disappointed that it will be such a long wait. Feeling really down today. Had a rough weekend with exhaustion and bone pain.

  • BookLady1
    BookLady1 Member Posts: 253
    edited November 2014


    Becca - I feel for you. We will feel our old selves again, but it sure stinks right now. I have to make myself eat, too. You probably do this already, but lots of small meals per day - actually, bites of food, and some kind of protein shake so I knew I was getting that. Also keep doing whatever you do to stay regular and DRINK. I got dehydrated after last round. Here's to better days!

    Ilovecoasters - how disappointing! Maybe find some YouTube videos to tide you over? Do something nice for yourself today!

    Linda

  • She-Angel
    She-Angel Member Posts: 149
    edited November 2014

    I am so sore, just poking myself in the arm hurts, it's almost funny. I hate not being able to get a massage. Yesterday during my lunch break I think I dozed off at my desk I didn't even realize I was that tired but that little 30 minute power nap revived me for the rest of the day. Everything taste funny, people keep dropping by the house bringing food that I can't really taste unless its over seasoned. I know they are doing what they can so I don't want to say stop, and at least my husband gets to try new things. Since I am still mobile and able to cook I find it a bit strange to have people sending food or bringing food. Maybe after surgery it would make more sense. My stomach was not feeling good, just blah heavy and off kilter not to make me nauseous but icky I finally decided to just eat like I normally do with bad stuff when my stomach feels like crap and I actually feel better than I have since I started this. I just had lunch at my desk which consisted of grits, eggs, bacon and cheese and for the first time in 2 weeks no heart burn and no indigestion...who knew my body craves grease. I hope everyone is finding some silver lining out of all this chaos, I know some days are harder than others. My goal today....at least a 30 minute workout.

  • ml143333
    ml143333 Member Posts: 658
    edited November 2014

    I feel like a human pin cushion.  Had my INR taken yesterday to test the blood thinner levels.  Doctor wanted it taken again today then had to get a shot of Lovenox.  Next blood draw - Friday.  Phew!  Gives my arm a little break.  :)

  • Sjacobs146
    Sjacobs146 Member Posts: 770
    edited November 2014

    Ilovecoasters, sorry to hear that the program was cancelled. Ironically, I attended one on Monday morning. They didn't have a cosmetologist, but we did get some free products from some very nice names in cosmetics. I received a Lancôme moisturizer that alone is worth $45. It was also nice to meet some ladies going through similar challenges. I hope that they are able to have the next one for you. It sounds like it is tough to get volunteers

  • Ilovecoasters
    Ilovecoasters Member Posts: 199
    edited November 2014

    I'm struggling. Feeling isolated and really down. My oncologist told my husband I need to avoid any public places, so here I sit two full months since my mastectomy and I've only left the house for medical appointments. He has even declined attending Thanksgiving with family. I'm alone until 6:30 pm when my family gets in and they are in bed by 10. I've had no visitors since chemo started. How do you shake this? I know it's not forever but I feel this urgency to make the most of each day. Sitting home alone isn't making sense. It's an all or nothing situation at work, either I am there fully or on medical leave. I think about all of the treatment and surgeries ahead of me and I can't envision and end to all this. Yuck. This isn't me at all

  • MJS1266
    MJS1266 Member Posts: 222
    edited November 2014

    Ilovecoasters, Sorry, your having a difficult time. I would talk to your MO again. I am on the same chemo regimen and mine told me to avoid crowds not all public places i.e. don't go to a large concert where there are a lot of folks coughing and sneezing that you can't avoid. She said I could go shopping etc. I am doing things like shopping Monday thru Friday when it is not so busy. I also use anti-bacterial hand wash and hand wipes a lot more than I used. I do stay home a lot as I am not working but I would go crazy too if I couldn't do anything for five months. Good Luck,


  • Tobycc
    Tobycc Member Posts: 789
    edited November 2014

    I agree with MJS.....please call again. Can you go for a walk? Can you drive to a park or lake?

    BTW all, I got approved today for free cleaning! Once a month for 4 months through maid pro. Google cleaningforareason


  • Sjacobs146
    Sjacobs146 Member Posts: 770
    edited November 2014

    Ilovecoasters, I'd check with MO for clarification. My doc said the same, but she explained that I don't want to be around large crowds of strangers. I've been working, and I go to Mass on Sunday. I just decline to shake hands and I avoid sick people. I've even been to the movies and a restaurant. I wash my hands obsessively. Are you getting Neulasta shot? As long as they're not sick, you should be able to have visitors at least

  • Nomatterwhat
    Nomatterwhat Member Posts: 587
    edited November 2014

    Ilovecoasters, After my mastectomy I was told to avoid places that had crowds as well.  My husband and I always go out to breakfast on Sunday morning and to the grocery store or Wal-Mart right after that.  There isn't a lot of people out then and it felt good to get out of the house.  I always take my hand sanitizer with me, wherever I go and use it on anything I touch.  I do not touch any doors, especially bathroom doors with my bare hands.  When I was home, I enjoyed getting out and walking to the mailbox and back.  When I got strong enough, I walked to the corner and back.  I stayed in touch with my friends via Facebook.  It is definitely hard to get used to after working every day, but make the most of your time.  I DVR'd a bunch of movies to watch, read several books and napped a lot.  Go for a drive, someplace you can sit and people watch (one of my favorite past times).

  • She-Angel
    She-Angel Member Posts: 149
    edited November 2014

    Avoiding crowds and public places does not mean to sit home isolated. You can go for walks and you can have visitors that are not 'sick' life is still going on and you are still part of it. I hate crowds anyway and that is really part of my job but with this I have taken a less active roll with the public. I have all these little projects that I wanted to do so I have been kind of setting them aside like doing a shadow box, to dyi around the house and crocheting and knitting. I have yet to actually get a walk in but I have it on the docket for my next bit of time off. I am trying to save up some stuff for after surgery when I know I will be a real pill to deal with. Just 3 days at the house and I am looking out the front window like a cat ready to make a break for it. Be prayerful, be safe and be you, everything else will work itself out. We do have somewhat of an immune system even with the stuff they are constantly shoveling in us, our bodies were truly designed to help us fight against things that harm us it's just over the years the things that can harm became an overwhelming number. I am actually contemplating skydiving for my birthday in two weeks....can't wait to hear what the doc says about that!

  • Becca9800
    Becca9800 Member Posts: 79
    edited November 2014

    I don't get it, that's the entire point of Neulasta, to keep your white blood cell count high enough to fight off infections. I thought you were getting the Neulasta injections, ilovecoasters. I asked about attending my grandson's birthday party, a cesspool of bugs because of all the children that would also be there, and was given the green light. I carry on with life as usual, working full-time, shopping, concerts (saw Jake Owen not too long ago and Miranda Lambert is coming up), dinner out, movies, whatever I want.

    I certainly understand why you would be struggling, humans are social creatures requiring interaction with others. Do discuss again with your doc, maybe there was a communication breakdown.

  • ml143333
    ml143333 Member Posts: 658
    edited November 2014

    Ilovecoasters - I hope you will talk with your MO and take some of the advice given here.  There are lots of things you can do to get out of the house and still avoid huge crowds.  Taking a drive, going through the drive-thru for some food, taking a walk around the neighborhood, going to see a friend that isn't sick...I hope your days will begin to look up!  :)

  • Ilovecoasters
    Ilovecoasters Member Posts: 199
    edited November 2014

    I had a 90 minute chemo class with just the nurse and my husband. There wasn't any misunderstanding. No restaurants, movies, grocery stores, gyms, or crowds. It was so specific down to what I should eat. I do go for walks. Yes, I'm getting Nuelasta and my white blood cells were off the charts high last time. My next treatment isn't until 12/1, since the center is closed for Thanksgiving. I will definitely ask then. I apprecjate all of your concern.

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