Poll on Final Pathology Report
My doctor yesterday made the comment that even though my diagnosis is DCIS (plus the additional "highly suspicious" area discovered on MRI that we are biopsying soon), no one can tell me that I won't need chemo or radiation after my mastectomy until the final pathology report post-surgery comes in, and that it is not too unusual to have a diagnosis of a higher stage after mastectomy than was suspected before.
How many of you were told one stage, only to find out post-mastectomy that the disease had actually progressed more than previously believed?
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Hi Mommy2Six,
I was dx'd with a 1.7cm, grade 1, IDC just sub-areolar upon initial ultrasound and FNB. The ultrasound and physical exam did not show any suspicious lymph nodes, and hence I was clinically diagnosed as Stage 1 IDC. I then requested a MRI to help determine whether we could conduct a nipple-sparing mastectomy. That MRI showed the same lesion in addition to a new lesion that was just anterior (above) the original tumor, measuring 0.3mm and with a suspicious linear expansion directly into the nipple. The MRI still did not show any suspicious lymphatic invasion, so I still remained Stage 1.
Thus, prior to surgery I agreed to have the nipple cored IF the surgeon could not find a clean margin. Post-operatively I was was not surprised to see that she did have to remove the nipple, but the areola is intact.
Upon final pathology, the grade of the breast tumor changed to grade 2, with very concerning combination of cell types, the size remained the same, however they also confirmed lymphovascular invasion. Finally, the biggest surprise was that my sentinel node was filled with a 1.3cm tumor. However, the other 3 pulled during surgery were negative.
I then consented to a SLND - she pulled 6 more and they were all negative as well. Praise God!
So, now I am Stage 2a and preparing for chemotherapy beginning the week after Thanksgiving. However, because they only found 1 positive lymph node (1-3 is the 'grey area'), I do not have to do any radiation at this time.
This is one story of a change, but there are many, many more that either stay the same or are even downgraded upon final pathology.
Fight the good fight!
Akitagirl
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I'm one of those, unfortunately. My biopsy indicated grade 1 and the final pathology came back grade 3, which is more aggressive, so I may need chemo. One thing was better though, biopsy indicated 1 cm and final pathology was 9 mm. No lymph node involvement either, which I was so relieved about. They truly don't know everything until after surgery. Thinking happy healthy thoughts for you.
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Hi hummingbird - when do you expect your oncotype score back?
R.
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Hi Robyn, I've been thinking about you. Monday is my next appt with MO, depending on if they've received my results by Monday. Happens to be my birthday....hmmmmm...really?
Kim
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I've come to look at initial diagnosis as a 'tentative' diagnosis which is updated as more facts become available. It is common that the initial tentative diagnosis changes, often to the worse but sometimes for the better.
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Happy Birthday!
My next biopsy is scheduled for my 30th birthday....it seems crazy that just a few months ago I had a goal to lose a few pounds by my 30th, and now my goal is to be cancer-free by 31. Crazy perspective changing. -
Happy birthday to you too! Yes, funny how your perspective totally changes. My ultimate goal is try not to worry about the things that I have no control over and keep thinking positive thoughts. We will get through this!!
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Change in stage/grade from biopsy to final path report after surgery is not uncommon, though I have no stats to give you. My biopsy report stated stage 1. After bmx, stage IIB and one positive node, six weeks later stage IV. No one can predict how your final pathology will turn out, but the biopsy staging/grading is preliminary.
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i was surprised, given that core biopsy showed my tumour to be aggressive, that the size didn't change for the 2 months between ultrasound and surgery. What did change was that post op pathology showed the tumour to have 2 types of cells. Also, the surgeon removed 6 lymph nodes because 5 "lit up" as being positive with the blue dye but pathology showed them all to be negative.
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exbrnxgirl...how did you go from stage 2b to stage iv in six weeks? I got my final pathology from when I had mastectomy, idc 11mm, stage 2a, grade 3, 1/17 nodes. ER+/PR+, HER2-. They are suggesting chemo for me since the node was positive. and would like to start the week after Thanksgiving....then hormonal drugs for 5 years with possibility of radiation as well once I speak with radiation doctor...How did you find out that you went to stage IV?
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