BRCA 2 Variant of uncertain significance

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warrrior3
warrrior3 Member Posts: 51
edited December 2016 in Genetic Testing

I just received my BRCA results.  Thankfully BRCA 1 showed no mutation.  BRCA 2 shows a variant of uncertain signigicance.  I am totally confused.  My first reaction is Great, it's not positive.  Any information is appreciated.

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  • Mutd
    Mutd Member Posts: 148
    edited November 2010

    There is a lot of normal genetic variation in these genes. Little changes which don't make it better or worse. There are also mutations which break the gene and increase the risk of cancer. And there are variants of unknown significance. They don't seem to be mutations, they don't damage the gene in any known way, but at the moment there is no proof if a particular uncertain variant is really benign. A few of these variants actually turn out to be dangerous.

     "Uncertain" doesn't mean that absolutely nothing is known about each particular variant. Some variants already have a clue here or there, just not enough to solve the riddle for good yet. Some people search for these clues for their specific variants. Others just ignore the uncertain variants and go on knowing that the test wasn't informative. Probably negative but no 100% guarantee yet.

  • LISAMG
    LISAMG Member Posts: 639
    edited August 2013

    Warrior,

    Please consult with a certified genetic counselor for the best interpretation of your BRCA in-conclusive test results. Many times these uncertain variants are of clinical significance and not negative. Have u had genetic counseling? Please visit the FORCE web site, the only organization devoted to HBOC. See below:

    Variants of uncertain significance

    Genes tell our bodies which proteins to make. Not all changes in genes are bad. Some gene changes can mean the difference between black hair and blonde hair, or the difference between brown eyes and green eyes.  Other gene changes, called mutations, can cause our body to make proteins that don't work correctly. Some people receive a BRCA test result called a "variant of uncertain significance."  This means that, at the time of testing, the laboratory cannot determine whether the gene change is a "deleterious change," which increases the risk for cancer, or a variant which does not increase cancer risk. Over time, as more family members are tested for the variant, sometimes the laboratories will determine whether or not these changes are "deleterious" and will "reclassify" the test result.  It is important for people who test positive for a variant of uncertain significance to stay in contact with their genetics specialist to learn if their variant has been reclassified to a deleterious or a harmless mutation. There are research studies looking at whether variants are "deleterious" or harmless.

    http://www.facingourrisk.org/info_research/hereditary-cancer/genetic-testing/index.php

  • warrrior3
    warrrior3 Member Posts: 51
    edited November 2010

    My genetic councilor called to say BART test is negative!!! 

  • Mutd
    Mutd Member Posts: 148
    edited November 2010

    Negative BART is great news. But it doesn't mean anything about the uncertain variant. It's like the test consisted of several parts, one passed (BART negative), another isn't pass and isn't fail either.

  • soccermom
    soccermom Member Posts: 136
    edited August 2013

    I had a similar result on BRCA1- "first observation" meaning this variant had NEVER been seen before. Aren't I special! My father was then tested and he had the same variant. He had 3 bouts with cancer: colon, bladder and leukemia which he died from at age 83.

    My oncologist was reassuring and I also discussed questions with a specialist at Myriad. The only breast cancer in my family is my first cousin on my mother's side. My oncologist says my brother should be tested and that my cousin should be tested for further information. I haven't wanted to bring it up with them though- implications are for my other breast (prophylactic MX?) my children, my brother's children and my cousin's sisters, and they may NOT want to know or worry about this. Hard to know whether or how to pursue it.

    But Since it could be beneficial for me and my children I think I should bring it up. 

  • Mutd
    Mutd Member Posts: 148
    edited December 2010

    Soccermom, you should talk to a Genetic Counsellor about your concerns. Uncertain Variants are a complicated story, and often beyond the grasp of regular oncologists.

    I think a Certified GC would not recommend testing your cousin for the variant, because she is related to you through your mother, but the variant came from your father. So the cousin wouldn't have this variant either, and there is no point in testing.

    Most probably, a GC wouldn't recommend testing your brother too. Because his result won't really help you understand the connection (or lack of the connection) between the variant and cancer.

    But there may be other things a GC might do to help you make sense of your test result. By the way, were you tested right after the Dx, or more recently? If the "first observation" of the variant was yours in 2003, then there may be more info available now? There may even be something in research articles, google-able, etc....

  • snowflower
    snowflower Member Posts: 68
    edited February 2011

    Hi Warrior 3,

    My test results came back that I have a "variant"  of which only 11 other people have (of everyone that's been tested). It sounds like you are one of the 11 others. My doctors said they don't think it is like a "positive"  result. They will be following us to see who if any develop BC. That's my understanding of it. I used that info when I decided to have a unilateral instead of bilateral mx. It seems the variant is more like a negative result for the gene.

    Kim

     

  • PinkPockets
    PinkPockets Member Posts: 19
    edited February 2011

    Hi friends - be ever mindful of the 'uncertain significance' - genes are incredibly complex and we learn more about variants all the time - as many of the above noted - speak with the Myriad genetic counselors - they are the best equipped to answer your questions and concerns.

     My twin was diagnosed with Stage 2 invasive breast cancer at age 33. This was 8 years ago. At the time she was tested, she got the 'uncertain significance' genetic mutation. She was tested a few years later with the same result. When I was diagnosed with stage 2 invasive breast cancer at age 39 six years after my twin, I got the same result. We share the same mutation (we are fraternal twins, though, not identical) - and my result was 'mutation of underterminded significance'. However, 9 months later, my report was reanalyzed - it came back 'suspected deleterious'. The point of this story is this: the more data collected and stored and analyzed over time by Myriad, the better off we as a group are to really understand our risk.

     Diane at Pink Pockets - the Temporary Surgical Drain Pocket - Recuperate in Comfort

    diane@pink-pockets.com

    www.pink-pockets.com

  • Bradygirl
    Bradygirl Member Posts: 5
    edited September 2014


    I just got my results today....

    everything was No Mutation Detected except in BRCA2 sequencing the results said Uncertain Significance.  Doctor still want me to have a hysterectomy but thinks I can leave my ovaries.  Both my mom and grandma had breast cancer so my risks are high already.  Your thoughts.........?

  • anneoftheforest
    anneoftheforest Member Posts: 52
    edited September 2014

    Did you work with a genetic counselor to get your testing?  I feel like they are the best to wade through exactly what those terms "uncertain significance" mean.  Plus they can work with your doctors to help put a screening plan in place for your ovaries if they feel that it is necessary.  Why does your doc want you to take your uterus out? Uterine cancer isn't linked to BRCA2 mutations?  Is it for treatment purposes like tamoxifen and the higher risk of uterine cancer that it carries.  Or is he talking about removing your fallopian tubes since BRCA cancers usually start there first?

  • drjr1968
    drjr1968 Member Posts: 8
    edited November 2014


    I did too came back positive with BRCA2 mutation after I got diagnosed with DCIS stage 0, my breast surgeon gave me the option of doing a lumpectomy with radiation or full mastectomy without radiation. But since BRCA 2 came back positive, which means nothing inconclusive, not enough data to support what it means. It may or may not be a risk factor for developing BC in my other breast. They said it is up to me to decide what I want to be done and they will totally support it. Luckily my insurance would cover for it. So I opted to have bilateral mastectomy with DIEP reconstruction. It is a big major surgery, took 11 hours in operating room. And guess what, my pathology showed I have micro-invasive ductal carcinoma. And if I did not have my other breast removed then, then that is the next step or have chemo and radiation. So now I just have to deal with concentrating in healing which is no picnic. I know everyone is different but my thoughts are then is out of sight, out of mind. I just don't want it in my body at all.

  • Ginger_16
    Ginger_16 Member Posts: 52
    edited November 2014

    I received the results to my BRCA1/2 gene testing. I am positive for a BRCA sequencing variation of unknown significance. My genetic counselor said she is concerned because my biological mother passed away from metastasized ovarian cancer at the age of 53. I am 48. I find it frustrating and have no idea how long it could take to re-classify my type of variant. I will be visiting my doctor soon to see how to proceed in protecting myself. Ovarian cancer is so hard to detect sometimes and scares me. I am finding more information on breast cancer but very little on ovarian mutations and genes . Not sure whether to repeat testing with another lab in the future and hope for more research as well. Any thoughts or ideas are greatly appreciated . Thanks.

  • Moderators
    Moderators Member Posts: 25,912
    edited November 2014

    Hi Ginger_16, We just wanted to welcome you to Breastcancer.org, and let you know that we're so glad you've found our community

    You may find articles on our main site breastcancer.org of interest, such as BRCA1 and BRCA2 Testing and others.

    You may also find the FORCE website has a lot of information for you as they focus on hereditary breast and ovarian cancer.We hope this helps in your search for quality information.

    The Mods


  • Ginger_16
    Ginger_16 Member Posts: 52
    edited November 2014

    Thank you "moderators " for your reply. I will research the information you gave me .

  • Mutd
    Mutd Member Posts: 148
    edited November 2014

    Each of the variants reported as uncertain is a different story. Some are virtually unknown, others have quite a bit of info from the studies. Some are extremely rare and others are known in dozens, sometimes even hundreds cases. Some are reported as uncertain by every lab, but for others, a reporting lab may be behind the curve when others have already figured it out.

    So if you are looking for a better picture of your specific variant, then it makes relatively little sense to ask "in general" about all variants and all labs. Be more specific if you can.

  • Ginger_16
    Ginger_16 Member Posts: 52
    edited November 2014

    yes, my variant is c.5937c>G p.Ser1979Arg my GC told me the same , it is possible that another lab might have a better understanding of this variant as well. so this would mean more testing and hope another lab does have more info on this particular variant. My GC was not able to provide me with more info on this particular variant either. I have come across some research about it but I do not know if it is reliable. Thanks.

  • sabihah
    sabihah Member Posts: 65
    edited November 2014

    It's a good thing you got help from the GC, Ginger. When a variant is rare, it's difficult for scientists to get enough data to give you a straight answer on it. At first, they might guess whether it's deleterious or not based on its location in the gene; some parts of the DNA "recipe" are more important than others. Over time (years), you can hope that they collect enough data to give you a better answer. Someone may do more research into the gene at the DNA level, or they can collect reports of cancer (or no cancer) from other people with the same mutation to see if cancer seems to be more common in people with the mutation or not.

    Warrior3, if you can talk to a Genetics Counselor about this, it should help you too. If he or she thinks it's a good idea to get a test from another lab, you can hopefully get a single-site test, which is much less expensive. The GC can also help you file with your insurance. Ambry Genetics, for example, rarely charges you more than $100 out of pocket for a single-site test, and they'll even call you before charging you if they think the cost will be more than that.

  • Ginger_16
    Ginger_16 Member Posts: 52
    edited November 2014

    I know it is a constantly changing area of research , I am hoping sharing my story can help someone else and we might find common information together that will help us all. The hard part is not knowing when I might have more information on this variant . for now , I will keep in touch with my GC every 6 months .

  • Janeofthejungle
    Janeofthejungle Member Posts: 2
    edited May 2015

    My BRCA2 is IVS10+1G>A It is listed as "suspected deleterious"...Not sure what to do. My Dr. recommended BMX and ooph (I am not up on the abbreviations just yet I hope I got them right). I called Myriad and was told they treat it the same as deleterious but has not been seen as much as a deleterious. I am scheduled for an ooph next week (I will continue to monitor my breasts with mammo/MRI's) and a bit freaked out. Not positive that I won't chicken out.

    I found a lump on my right breast 3 years ago, the biopsy was benign but they had me come every 6 months for mammo or sonogram. After 2 years I went for the last of my last 6 mos check ups and was looking forward to annuals when they found something in my other breast (no biopsy needed). They told me to come back in 6 mos. I saw a breast surgeon instead since I was worried. She did follow up sono and recommended genetic testing due to my family history (paternal aunt died of breast & ovarian cancer, 2 paternal 2nd cousins both had mastectomies). My test came back BRCA2 positive. Since then I have continued surveillance and during my last internal ultrasound (at cancer hospital) they found a polyp in my uterus. I had an MRI which was clear but I am afraid and tired of the roller coaster. I am scheduled for surgery to remove ovaries and fallopian tubes and was told that I can continue to monitor my breasts but ovarian cancer is very hard to detect. If I maintain 6 mos mammo/MRI they feel they will catch any malignancy early enough to treat with surgery/chemo. I am wondering if anyone else has had an ooph and what should I expect? I am trying to stay calm and to go through with it but having strong doubts...

  • tangerinequeen222
    tangerinequeen222 Member Posts: 21
    edited May 2015

    My BRCA2 mutation is similar to yours (though I'm not sure what that means). It's IVS3+5G>A. I just had a PBM and they found five new things, in addition to my diagnosed benign things found over the years. All were benign. Now I have to decide about the ooph. No one in my family has had ovarian, but I guess that doesn't say much seeing that many died early from BC. Best of luck with your decisions. I'll be watching this thread.

  • DianeTheLion
    DianeTheLion Member Posts: 1
    edited June 2015

    First time here, and I'm a bit overwhelmed to see so many many people, and I think of all the loved ones and families behind each of these stories, it breaks my heart!

    Not sure where to post, but this seems the most relevant topic. I am struggling with the decision whether to have surgery based on my genetic test.

    I was referred for genetic testing following my breast cancer treatment because of my family history. I too have a BRCA2 variant of unknown signifance. I'm premenopausal and have developed a 4.7mm ovarian cyst of a year on Tamoxifen. I went last week for what I thought would be an appointment to discuss whether to remove the cyst (doc seems confident it's benign, but said the only way to be sure would be to remove it for examination). Instead, I ended up meeting with a gynaecological oncologist who advised me that my case of genetic testing had come up in the consultants' meeting. She advised me that they wanted to give me the option of having my ovaries and tubes removed, given the possibility that the Brca2 variant may mean an increased risk for ovarian cancer. This really surprised me,as it is so different from the advice given by the genetic counsellor months ago. However with the cyst problem as well, I am now thinking I should consider the surgery. I'm 44. I am done having kids, but not happy about facing early menopause.Then I also think - surely I must take this option as it may give me more time to be here for my children?

    How are others following up with a variant of unknown significance

  • Melkirk13
    Melkirk13 Member Posts: 13
    edited July 2015

    I also just received the results that BRCA1 is variant. 2 was normal and I don't know what to do. I am scheduled for a lumpectomy next week and don't feel I have enough information to make a decision. I was DX with Pagets and is not likely to be invasive.

  • Tany
    Tany Member Posts: 1
    edited August 2015

    I'm tested positive for BRAC 2 and I'm trying to decide about having a prophylatic masectomy.

  • Moderators
    Moderators Member Posts: 25,912
    edited August 2015

    Hi Tany, and welcome to BCO.

    We have this section that may help you in your decision-making process. We are thinking of you.

    What to Do if Your Genetic Test Results Are Positive

  • Ginger_16
    Ginger_16 Member Posts: 52
    edited December 2016

    I am trying to decide on the same option . What did you decide to do Tany?

  • Ginger_16
    Ginger_16 Member Posts: 52
    edited December 2016

    Trying to find as much information on my mutation under the BRCA2 gene. c.5937c>g, p.Ser1979Arg. Research is coming along but slowly . I think the status of mine has changed. Has anyone encountered this one ? TY.

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