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hi - help I'm worried when I lie on my right side it hurts around my ribs, and I have been poking and prodding and now I don't know whether it is my ribs or skin. Doing third chemo next Thursday. I'm worried its spread;(. Am I mad

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  • wrenn
    wrenn Member Posts: 2,707
    edited November 2014

    I have pain on that side from enlarged liver. I have fatty liver but chemo makes liver work hard so could be that. Worth asking the oncologist about it in case they want to do an ultrasound. Hoping for the best for you. The fears are always there.

  • lyzzysmom
    lyzzysmom Member Posts: 654
    edited November 2014

    Gunnie, no you are not mad! It is 6 months since I had surgery (only 1 node removed) and 3 months since I finished rads but i too have tenderness in my side (ribs or skin). It still hurts, not bad, but enough to make me poke and prod! Unfortunately we tend to think bad things with this darn BC with every little ache and pain.Things take time to heal and hopefully everything is OK with you and your onc can set your mind at rest. I will mention mine when I see my onc next month but I suspect it is likely just the result of treatment and will hopefully resolve. Sending good thoughts your way!

  • gunnie
    gunnie Member Posts: 24
    edited November 2014

    thank you ladies, I 'm typing secretly in bed as husband is asleep but was so worried.

    Why is it always a Sunday something happens. I could call ward tomorrow just to enquire but I don't want to be ringing all the time.


    Thank you x

  • gunnie
    gunnie Member Posts: 24
    edited November 2014

    sending good thoughts to both of you x

  • Ariom
    Ariom Member Posts: 6,197
    edited November 2014

    Hi Gunnie, I have a small spot of rib pain, that I feel if I lie on my side, or if I turn a certain way. I am convinced it is connected to where the drain was, after my surgery. I think it is a bit of scar tissue. I have had it for nearly 2 years and it is the same today, as it was right after I had the surgery and the drain removed.

  • Stenokim
    Stenokim Member Posts: 172
    edited November 2014


    Gunnie, I would ditto Ariom. Mine is ribs and skin area also, right where the drains were. I've had it since surgery and it's been 11 months. Mine feels like it's bruised all the time, but of course it's not. Ki

  • jenjenl
    jenjenl Member Posts: 948
    edited November 2014

    Ugh, I have the same thing and mine hurts so much I have to not wear a bra for a few days for the pain to subside. Chemo does a beating on your body....it's more probable that it is a side effect of chemo than the cancer spreading. Do you get the nuelesta shot? That kicked my ass in regards to body pain.

    Never be worried to call.

  • gunnie
    gunnie Member Posts: 24
    edited November 2014

    Hi Jen, Ive never heard of that shot before I'll ask my oncologist.

    I rang the ward and the oncologist on call game me a call back he was fab. He said he isn't overly anxious that it has spread as it hurts to touch lightly to medium which he said would be unusual. He said it sounded like an infection but with it not being red and no temp he wasn't sure. As he isn't my onc. I'm going in tomorrow for a check to be safe - fingers crossed!

    ow I read your message mine hurts after wearing a bra underneath, never really thought about it as m scars hurt as well. What kind of horrible club are we in?

    Thanks for your note I am hoping it is a side effect.

    Love to you all Ailsa xxx

  • new_direction
    new_direction Member Posts: 449
    edited November 2014

    I had tender ribs too and worried  for months.

    Then I started getting massages and my massage therapist said immediately she could feel muscle knots between my ribs. The massage hurt a lot - also days after but after 2-3 massages the pain stopped and I have only have slight pain once in a while.

    I hope yours turn out to be something like that as well.

  • Ariom
    Ariom Member Posts: 6,197
    edited November 2014

    I can recommend massage too. I have been having a massage every 2 weeks for about 18 years for rheumatoid arthritis, but after my Mx the massage was especially good, for releasing any adheasions and keeping everything supple. I was religious with the stretching exercises I was given from the Hospital PT, I did them 4x a day for many, many months and know they helped enormously, but I still have this small area that hurts, so although I believe it is where the drain was located, I am still hoping that, like all the other weird sensations and sore spots I have had over the past 2 years, one day it will just not be there any more!

  • gunnie
    gunnie Member Posts: 24
    edited November 2014

    Thanks everyone, I will mention massage on Thursday.  The oncologist said not to worry and he will see me on Thursday when I have my chemo which reduced me to tears as I wanted reassurance. My breast nurse rang me back to check I was ok and reassure me, but it is awful isn;t it.  Is this what it is going to be like, worried all the time?

    Also the tenderness stretched to my abdomen where I have a line under my skin which is inflammed!

    Love to you all xx

  • Ariom
    Ariom Member Posts: 6,197
    edited November 2014

    Gunnie, I am so sorry you are having a rough time. Hugs to you!

    You say you have tenderness, with a line under your skin? Is it fairly taught and hard to the touch and like a branch? I am wondering if you have what I had, Mondors Cording? I am sure your Doctor will tell you if that is what it is. Should it turn out to be that, don't worry yourself, it will resolve on its own. I know it must be feeling like one thing after another, but I am sure it will get better.

    Take it easy and let us know how you get on. M x

  • gunnie
    gunnie Member Posts: 24
    edited November 2014

    Hi Ariom thank you, yes it does look a bit like that it is under my ribs going down to abdomen on right side and like the cartilage is inflamed. The oncologist has agreed to a bone scan but doesn't seem worried. It is like long veiny lines, but I can't find similar on my left! Would that be normal.

    God I think I could get through this without extra symptoms!

    Thanks

    Ailsa

  • Ariom
    Ariom Member Posts: 6,197
    edited November 2014

    Hi Gunnie, it sure sounds the same, but you'd need to have a Doctor Dx it for you. I am no expert, but it is possible to have it just on the one side. Mine was only on my Mx side. I tried to research it when my Surgeon told me, in all his years of doing this kind of surgery, I was only the 2nd case he'd seen. What I found, was that it isn't really uncommon in women who have breast augmentation, but I didn't find much about post Mx surgery, or Lumpectomy. The main theme of the things I read were that it is caused by trauma to the breast and although there have been some studies done and when biopsied, these cords can be either veinous or lymph, so there is a crossover with the axillary web syndrome too. It is similar to a varicose vein. Everything I could find, which wasn't much, concurred with my Surgeon, that it was self limiting and would resolve on its own. It can return, as mine did, very briefly, some months later, but it disappeared fairly quickly.

    I hope this may help you, if you find Mondors is what you have. I know what you mean, I had a seroma and a hematoma, undissolved stitches, a dog ear removed and then way down the track, found a lump which needed another biopsy, but thankfully turned out to be a cyst. It feels like you never really get away from thinking about it!

    I wish you all the very best!

    Edited to add a couple of points I forgot to mention.

  • gunnie
    gunnie Member Posts: 24
    edited November 2014

    Did it hurt in your abdomen I feel like I have something alive in there. I'm so fed up and people just think Im being anxious! Thanks for your help.

    xx

  • Ariom
    Ariom Member Posts: 6,197
    edited November 2014

    Hi Gunnie, it was a tight branch like thing, that could be seen through my skin if I stood up straight and leaned back a little. It was sore and kind of burned a bit. I could push up under my ribcage and feel that it started up there and ran down over my abdomen, where it branched off in a couple of directions. I really was pretty gross.

    I normally tell people to stay away from Google, but in this instance I found some information and photos of Mondors, they all say it is self limiting and can take 12 weeks to disappear. I know mine hung around for a long time, disappeared, came back for a short time and then was gone and I haven't had it again.

    If I were you, I would simply ask your Doctor if this is Mondors? Just say you have a friend who had the same kind of symptoms and that's what she was Dx with. It probably isn't unusual for a Doctor not to be familiar with this. My Surgeon has been doing Mx surgery for many years and although he just took one look at it and said "You have Mondors Disease!" I was only his second patient to have it.

  • gunnie
    gunnie Member Posts: 24
    edited November 2014
  • new_direction
    new_direction Member Posts: 449
    edited November 2014

    gunnie when my rib pain was at its worst I felt like something moving under my skin. It sounds crazy but it was like being pregnant and having a baby kick inside. Don't know what it was - if it was just these muscle knots or if I had gall stones at the time. It hurt very much when I was doing the budwig diet plus something else.

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