September 2014 Surgery Sisters

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  • sandra4611
    sandra4611 Member Posts: 2,913
    edited October 2014

    Awwwwwwwwwww. That's sweet.

  • Mischief46
    Mischief46 Member Posts: 217
    edited October 2014

    Noonrider, I love that!  I never looked at it like that but I totally agree!!  I thank God for His faithfulness..I definitely put my trust in Him during all of the chaos.  But I also agree with you others..during it all it is soo hard to pray for ourselves.  Not sure why..

    Ilovecoasters,  I hope today is better for you!!

  • noonrider
    noonrider Member Posts: 464
    edited October 2014

    I don't think God gives us cancer. We live in a human world, with human bodies and can get human diseases. I believe we can choose to find God's lessons in all of it if we choose. We can choose how to walk the journey. That doesn't mean in the end we won't succumb to the disease. 

  • Ilovecoasters
    Ilovecoasters Member Posts: 199
    edited October 2014

    I'm feeling a little more human tonight.  I slept (and drank) the entire day.  Could this be it for side effects or am I in for a surprise in a few days? Tomorrow is Neualsta.  I started Claritin today, other than Claritin and Motrin is there anything else? 

  • Sjacobs146
    Sjacobs146 Member Posts: 770
    edited October 2014

    Sandra, no platitudes from me, just a virtual hug.  

    I'm Catholic and a regular Sunday mass-goer.  I have a hard time praying myself right now.  My prayer has been this: please let this cup of pain pass me by, but not my will but yours be done.  That way my prayer is answered either way.  

    There is a movie called Sliding Doors, starring Gweneth Paltrow that is about how your while life can hinge on a split second event.  In her case, it's whether she catches a train or not.  The movie depicts both paths, in parallel.   I don't know what paths my life and the lives of those around me are going to take as a result of this disease, but perhaps this is some sort of necessary event.   That's part of what gets me through the night.

  • noonrider
    noonrider Member Posts: 464
    edited October 2014

    Personally I had a terrible time with the Neulasta shot. PLEASE if you are in a lot of pain call and get some pain meds. Don't try to tough it out. You have a long road ahead of you and now is not the time to prove anything. That said, I know that my reactions were worse than a lot people's. I think my system is just hypersensitive to…we…everything. LOL Hang in there!!! 

  • Ilovecoasters
    Ilovecoasters Member Posts: 199
    edited October 2014

    Noonrider,

    Luckily I stopped my mastectomy pain meds day three so I have quite a few Percocet and oxycodone. Trust me, if I hurt I won't hesitate.  

  • muzakmom1
    muzakmom1 Member Posts: 41
    edited October 2014

    minivan...

    This year, I loss an uncle to kidney cancer in 7 months. One of my dearest friends died of liver cancer 7/26...2 months later I was having a bilateral mastectomy.... i learned in this process that faith is trusting God to go through the process WITH you. We often tell God what we want and tantrum when we don't get it. My uncle was one of 12 of my grandmother children and the only who never publicly accepted Jesus Christ as his savior. During his diagnosis he accepted Christ and lead his grandsons to accept Him Too. My dear friend believed God hated her. For 11 years I shared my walk with Christ, it wasn't until a cookout on 7/4 that she told her brother she WANTED Christ!  My diagnosis was positive from the beginning, so I was spared...so I don't have the answers for how you pray,  but please don't stop believing. God works miracles. I have two friends who are two time survivors and we are not even 45.  I'll carry you in my prayers ...don't stop praying!!!!   Don't stop believing. 

  • Su-CQ51
    Su-CQ51 Member Posts: 137
    edited October 2014

    Quick update... more on October surgery thread .   Doing ok & pain manageable if sitting here lol   It's not an easy journey but this is one more hurdle down.   I will find out what else is in store Nov 12.   Gentle hugs to all!

  • enlm20Erica
    enlm20Erica Member Posts: 216
    edited October 2014

    Quick question...me and my husband rarely get a chance to get out, but today we are... This may seem crazy and unimportant but is it okay to have a drink at this point, I haven't since dx, I'm off all meds no chemo til Nov 17, will one drink hurt?

  • sandra4611
    sandra4611 Member Posts: 2,913
    edited October 2014

    Enlm, I hope a drink doesn't hurt...cause I've had many in the last year since all this mess started. Loopy Of course if you are taking prescription drugs, that could be a different story. Hey, Iloverollercoasters says she "drank the entire day" so you could ask her. (wink-wink)

    Sjacobs, we have a lot in common. I'm Catholic too and Sliding Doors is one of my all time favorite movies! Thanks for the memories.

    Su, hope your pain takes a permanent holiday soon. I've spent many an hour sitting in the recliner, trying to get enough courage to get up and go to the bathroom because I know it will hurt when I stand up. So far there have been no accidents, but it's been close sometimes. Happy

    On a different topic, yesterday I had my 4 week check up after surgery #5. My PS is cautiously optimistic that this last attempt at reconstruction will work. So far so good...but we've seen it fail before so I'm still holding my breath. He says the next 6-8 weeks are critical for internal healing so he doesn't want me to do anything to rock the boat (or rock the boobies.) Darn, guess I won't buy that trampoline after all. I'm in a very supportive but soft banded non-underwire bra at all times as per his orders, and will keep it up probably until the end of the year. (Took my Wacoal Awareness in to show him and got the thumbs up.) Although he has never required or even suggested a bra before, this time is my last chance so if he says this time it's needed, I'll do it. He says my left side absolutely will not tolerate another surgery. The skin is super paper thin and the pocket will not withstand another dissection. A latisimus dorsi muscle flap is the only procedure still in his bag of tricks but he doesn't want to have to do it because it's such a big surgery (his words) and he worries what will happen if I get another infection. Well, I SURE don't want to have LD flap surgery either, so we are in agreement there.

    Although my implants are exactly the same size and style, the "never a problem" right side looks a good bit bigger than the troubled left. Yesterday the PS said it looks like that because the left IS smaller. The breast surgeon took nearly all the fat from that side during the BMX and left a very thin flap for the PS to work with on day one. My right side is perfect with the normal thickness so the implant on that side looks plump and rounded, even this soon after implant replacement. (I get new implants every surgery...safety reasons.) On me, implants take several months to get out of the ugly stage...but this time the right one is doing especially well, even though it got Alloderm too this time. The left one is a work in progress. After I lost the original implant, a TE stretched that already thin tissue to it's absolute max in order to grow enough new skin to cover another implant. The PS said three more surgeries made it even worse so when you look at the left side, you see simply the 410 gummy bear implant with the thinnest possible skin covering. So, the fact is, the two sides will never be even but after all is said and done, I'm just glad I still have a chance at a decent reconstruction look - asymmetry I can live with.

    I've been encouraged by photos and reports from some of you here and on other threads who've had fat grafting. PS says yes, he will do that in surgery #6 and says it will be a "small surgery" compared to the others.(Maybe even an out-patient surgery? That would be SO cool.) Not counting those chickens before we see if anything is going to hatch. If we have another failure, I'm going to ask the PS to remove everything and just go flat. At least I'll know I gave it all I've got. There are photos on the picture forum in case any of you are members there. My thread is called Bottoming Out.

  • Mischief46
    Mischief46 Member Posts: 217
    edited October 2014

    I have no authority here...but I can't see how a drink or even 2 could hurt.  It takes our bodies about 10 hours to completely eliminate alcohol from our systems.  Plenty of time before your chemo starts, so I would say to enjoy your drink. Again...I have no authority. ..just my opinion. :)

  • Mischief46
    Mischief46 Member Posts: 217
    edited October 2014

    Sandra, I really hope this works out for you..you have been through enough!  The trampoline will ha

  • enlm20Erica
    enlm20Erica Member Posts: 216
    edited November 2014

    Sandra and Mischeif, thanks ladies that drink was exactly what the Dr ordered lol. Sandra I'm praying everything goes good this time around Lord knows you've been thru surgery more than enough times. You deserve a break!

  • Peanut323
    Peanut323 Member Posts: 5
    edited November 2014

    Ugh Ladies. I know I've been very quiet here, but following along with your stories.  I'm 5 weeks out from BMX (delayed reconstruction). I had a fair bit of necrosis on the right side like the size of my palm.  Thankfully it has been resolving itself instead of needing further surgery - I am so grateful for that... but I still need to bitch and moan... I am just having a hard time with it.  It's SO f'ing disgusting - it's like having 5 year old beef jerky on my chest that smells foul. It oozes nasty stuff so I am using these surgical pads that look like diapers under an ace bandage (loosely wrapped) to protect my clothes and keep the wounds clean. I have to clean it with alcohol swabs every day which is sometimes okay and sometimes I have to fight back gagging. I swear I just can hardly take it any longer and the BS says it will be months still before it's all healed. It IS getting better (probably about 1/3 - 1/4 the size it was and there is new pink skin) and I know I just need to hang in there, but it's just really hard sometimes. It's making it really hard for me emotionally to feel so gross for so long (and it seems like it is more gross lately than it was).    

    Ugh. I'm sorry for dumping this gross-ness on you guys. I just don't know where else to talk about this - it's not the kind of thing you want to talk to people about at all really.  

    Anyone else here experiencing this sort of thing? It sure would be nice to know I'm not the only one. :-/

    <3

  • sandra4611
    sandra4611 Member Posts: 2,913
    edited November 2014

    Peanut, the only women I've heard who've had anything similar is those who have serious wound healing issues, not infections. Drainage is one thing, but the smell is the tip off. Has it been like this the whole time? I assume you are on antibiotics. Oral? Have you been on the same kind of antibiotic or has your doctor changed you to another kind to try to kill the infection? Has he done a culture? Has your doctor mentioned IV antibiotics which work better? While the new pink skin shows that some healing is happening, the drainage is not normal and it seems you have an active infection in other areas. There is no way this should go on for months!!! That's crazy!  Personally I would demand better treatment or I'd go to the ER.

    Those of us with infections and dead (necrotic) tissue like you have are often taken back into the OR for debridement. The dead parts are removed and we are put on IV antibiotics to put an end to the infection are start healthy healing.


     

  • Peanut323
    Peanut323 Member Posts: 5
    edited November 2014

    Thanks Sandra. It actually isn't infected - it is just the healing process. The doc has watched it closely throughout the process and determined that my body is healing itself so we could avoid the debridement. It just takes time for the body to do it and it is gross. The healing / medical aspect isn't what bothers me. It's the emotional side of it. I'm just tired of it. I'm ready for all of the skin to be new and pink and move on with this process. It's happening, I just am struggling with patience. :-/

  • Mischief46
    Mischief46 Member Posts: 217
    edited November 2014

    just been wondering today about some of us...Smitty, did you ever get some relief from your pain last week?

    MarieJune, I hope you are on the road to recovery as well...home even maybe?

    Hope you are all well and recovering nicely!

  • Smitty333
    Smitty333 Member Posts: 130
    edited November 2014

    Mischeif very nice of you to ask. :) I hope you are doing well. I have been going to my physical therapy and it seems that if she massages and manipulates the TE enough that it moves over just enough that it is not resting on what seems to be a exposed nerve. That lasts about 2 days at a time or until I move wrong and the TE scoots. My surgeon says the only thing he can do is fix what ever is wrong at the exchange in December. Last night was a 2 hour of sleep night but got in to physical therapy this afternoon and instant relief. I have not posted on here because I read what a lot of the ladies are going through and it breaks my heart and makes me feel terrible for complaining about this nerve pain. Iloverollercoasters for instance, if I lived closer to you I would have brought you dinner and a couple bottles of wine by now! I know every ones journey is there own but mine feels like I got off to easy when I read some of your stories. Stay strong everyone and take it one day at a time. 

  • Smitty333
    Smitty333 Member Posts: 130
    edited November 2014

    One last thing, is it just mine or has anyone else had marriage or relationship issues during this entire process. I read on these sites all of the time about how husbands stepped up and was the womens rock or hero!  Don't get me wrong I have a good husband but this has not brought out the best in him. He is more distant than ever and easily agitated.  It has made everything so much harder to deal with. The better I feel physically the more pissed I am about it. And the better I feel the happier my husband seems to be. It just really pisses me off. This may not be the place for this but its been the hardest part of all of this for me and I am wondering if I am alone in it. I guess if I am alone in it and all of your husbands were great than at least you can maybe give them a extra that a boy or hug tonight ;)  

  • Ilovecoasters
    Ilovecoasters Member Posts: 199
    edited November 2014

    Thanks Smitty.  I'm having a rough time from chemo.  Lethargic, pretty depressed, and now enjoying a case of thrush.  Spend most of my time in a daze. Not sure how to snap out of it.  

  • Smitty333
    Smitty333 Member Posts: 130
    edited November 2014

    I cant imagine what you are going through. It seems so unfair. I just feel terrible for you. Make sure that you reach out to your friends and let them know that you need them. Some times we wait for people to show up and they are waiting for permission to. 

  • Mischief46
    Mischief46 Member Posts: 217
    edited November 2014

    Smitty, Good, I am glad to hear you have been able to get some relief, even if it is only intermittent. I experienced exposed nerve pain too...I found I really don't have a high tolerance for pain after all. 

    I have one of the good husband's but we did have to have a little conversation first...After we found out I had cancer, every time I looked at him or he looked at me he looked so sad ! Like I was broken...even after we knew exactly what we were dealing with he still couldn't shake the sadness...which I should appreciate but I was trying to stay positive, we have 2 teenage kids. After weeks of what I felt like was "poor me, my wife has cancer" I finally told him he had to stop.  I had enough to worry about..I wasn't about to add him to the list.  He needed to snap out of it and follow my lead.  I went on and on I'm sure..kind of like now.. :)  but the next day he was back to normal.   He is a great caregiver and really has stepped up.  His mother had BC 20 years ago and is doing fine..I thought that would have helped.  I have hear it is harder on the spouse than the one going through it because they can't really make it better.  But I don't know about that..but I do know our conversation helped a lot. I even got an apology which doesn't happen often enough!

    Ugh, ilovecoasters,  sorry to here it has been so rough.   I hate that for you...

  • noonrider
    noonrider Member Posts: 464
    edited November 2014

    I am 10 days out from surgery #2 to replace my ruptured TE's and clean up some scar tissue.  Check up with the PS scheduled for this morning. My drain (right side only)  is on the edge of being able to come out. I just realized all my kids have a 4 day weekend so I want to take a road trip with them, get a hotel with pool, etc. But UGH!!! That won't work if this stupid drain is still in. My kids all have disabilities so need both adults in the water with them even when wearing floatation. Wish I had not had the brilliant idea for a road trip. LOL 

    My right side with the new expander looks great. Its healing well and the TE is staying where its supposed to be. My range of motion is great! I would say about 85%.

    My left side…grrrr…its feeling awfully squishy!!! Like there is a seroma in there. This is the side that did not get a drain. Praying I am just imagining this squishiness and the PS will say its all just fine. But I'm pretty sure it has swollen some since Sunday. Other than that, my ROM is also great on this side. I just am gonna lose it if the PS says I need a drain on that side. I would be getting one out and another put in!! ugh! So frustrating.

  • sandra4611
    sandra4611 Member Posts: 2,913
    edited November 2014

    Noonrider, I read about others whose doctors prevented them from getting in the ocean or a pool for several MONTHS after surgery. Pools can have all kinds of bad germs I've heard. What does your doctor say?

    I doubt they would put another drain in. You'd have to go back into the OR for that, although it would be an outpatient procedure most likely. What the doctor would do is just take out the fluid with a needle. Many, many others have had this done without problems. It's just a pain in the neck to have to go back every week until the amount is low enough for the body to absorb it.

  • noonrider
    noonrider Member Posts: 464
    edited November 2014

    Hi! Well, NO seroma on my left side! YAY! Ps says it is squishy "they way it is supposed to be without all the scar tissue in there". I got my drain out on my right side but cannot be in the water until all scabbing is gone. Bummer, but oh well. At least I got that dreaded drain out. I got a fill on my right side so now the two sides are even. Now, to just keep on this path, without issues, until exchange time. 

  • Mischief46
    Mischief46 Member Posts: 217
    edited November 2014

    Great to hear you are back on track noon!

  • sandra4611
    sandra4611 Member Posts: 2,913
    edited November 2014

    I just started a new thread called What's the matter with me? I don't want to read!. I used to think I was the only one who couldn't seem to focus enough to read more than a Facebook post for weeks after surgery. Now that I know I'm not alone, I'm fascinated to read more stories from everyone else and hear your theories. https://community.breastcancer.org/forum/91/topic/826105?page=1#idx_2  Please share YOUR observations.

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  • EverForward
    EverForward Member Posts: 242
    edited November 2014

    Ladies, I need your help. My exchange surgery is scheduled for December 12. I thought I had persuaded my parents, who live on the other side of the country, that I wouldn't need around-the-clock care like I did after the mastectomy. But they're starting to get nervous because I live alone. I'm confident that my friends can handle whatever care I might need for a few days after the surgery. Those of you who have had the exchange surgery, can you share what your recovery was like and give me some ammunition to convince my parents once and for all that one of them doesn't need to fly out for this.

  • Mischief46
    Mischief46 Member Posts: 217
    edited November 2014

    EverForward, my exchange was really easy. It was on a Wednesday and my husband had planned on taking the rest of the week off but after staying home with me on Thursday he went to work on Friday. I had a little discomfort the first few days but woke up on Saturday and realized I didn't need anything for pain because I wasn't hurting at all. I went to my daughters Volleyball game on Thursday night. It really is like night and day if you compare the BMX and. Exchange. You still shouldn't move your arms all around and up over your head but the bad thing is you can so it's hard not to do too much at the beginning. Since I was off pain meds by the weekend I was able to drive myself around in just a few days. I did still have the iron bra feeling for a few weeks after surgery, I am 8 weeks out now and it is gone. I think you would be fine with just a friend there for you the day of and a few days after. But we are all differen...my experience was easy I hope you will be able to say the same.

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