The Truth about Cancer

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  • NJoy
    NJoy Member Posts: 30
    edited November 2014

    I was wondering if anyone here is familiar with the work of Dr. Nicholas Gonzalez in NYC ... he has a three prong protocol for cancer treatment which is supplements &enzymes, diet and detoxification...I would be interested to hear what anyone might know about him...thanks!

  • juneping
    juneping Member Posts: 1,594
    edited November 2014

    joy - he's pretty big in the alt world. my friend recommended me reading this book "the untold history of milk" by Ron Schmid who is a MD and naturalpath doc. so i gave him a call and he lives in CT which is too far for me. he then recommended me dr G. 

    i call Dr G's office and he's expensive. 

    i would suggest you calling his office and i am sure they are more than happy to help you out.

  • NJoy
    NJoy Member Posts: 30
    edited November 2014

    He is big June ... and Im really heading in that direction... I just wish I could speak to people who actually treated with him ...  I am ready to submit my packet to him hoping to be accepted as a patient but I also started xeloda today because his process in a bit lengthy and I dont want to be untreated for another 4 weeks with liver mets while Im waiting to see about him....should I choose his path I wiuld have to stop the chemo...but for now Im not willing to go untreated .. the supplement regime is definitely pricey ... like $800 plus a month!! I have listened to many of his interviews and understand that people are really thriving on his protocol....key being prancreatic enzymes. ???

  • juneping
    juneping Member Posts: 1,594
    edited November 2014

    there's another one in the NE, The Schachter Center...i think this doc was also on the show but i can't be sure. i spoke to them, they started their practice since the 70s. of all the alt doc i spoke to, i actually like this one the best. but unfortunately i cannot afford them. my sis offered me the money but i just can't accept it.

  • Renya
    Renya Member Posts: 23
    edited November 2014


    Never apologize for your sarcasm...it's well paid for.  I've been on /off sites for 7 years, was dx'd at stg 4 due to misread mammogram, so I know all about sarcasm....it's well deserved.  I have NEVER had chemo...even after all these years, my onco still tries to talk me into chemo, but I will never relent.  I know it is a killer. onco's don't like it one little bit when you outlive their dire forecast.  I've had this beast living in me since 2008 according to onco's.  I have watched friends and family pass from this scourge.  I have screamed from top of my lungs stop killing yourself, but I know the pull of medical science is very difficult to turn away from, but if you read the stats, it's a miserable cure rate, then when you see that 78% of polled onco's say they would refuse chemo if they or family got cancer, I cannot understand the reluctance.  I refused surgical mastectomy and opted for laser sugery.  I know it saved my life and has given me these many years.  Onco's won't tell you about alternatives, cancer is the gift that keeps on giving, will bring in a million plus from dx to end day chemo, it keeps the hospital doors swinging open.  I refuse to be just a name on a file folder because I have good insurance.   All the pink ribbons, runs, rallies, etc may make you feel good, but I've yet to hear any of that has cured a single case of cancer.  If only people would use their  intellect over emotion, then, maybe....we would see a difference....so, how's that for sarcasm... Anyone who is first dx'd with breast cancer should immediately have laser surgery, it completely cleans out the chest wall, surgery only allows cancer cells to get into the lymph and blood system and invade the entire body.  Look for Breastcancerlasersurgery,, no pain, no disfigurement, no recuperation, no need for reconstruction.   I just do not understand why anyone would succumb to such a barbaric surgery when something so much easier and has a better cure rate is overlooked.  Sure saved me and I don't care if my onco's are happy or not, they really don't have a clue.  Mine couldn't even tell me what cancer is ....forget that one cell that goes haywire routine.  Cancer is anaerobic, it cannot live or produce more cancer in an oxygenated environment,, there are many ways to achieve ph balance in your body.  Chemo is not on the list!  Just be smart, your body, your decision.

  • juneping
    juneping Member Posts: 1,594
    edited November 2014

    renya -  i had no idea about the laser surgery. could you share more about it? does insurance cover it? did you have it in the US?

  • Momine
    Momine Member Posts: 7,859
    edited November 2014

    June, it is this guy: Ansanelli and he is in NY. I looked him up several years ago, and it is still not entirely clear to me exactly how he does this surgery. I imagine it might work for tiny and/or clearly defined tumors, but it is difficult for me to imagine how it could substitute for a mastectomy in a case like mine, with a diffuse tumor and LCIS all over the place. He is, however, a legitimate, certified oncologist, as far as I can tell. 

    I found a newspaper article about experimental use of lasers in BC treatment: Laser article

  • Janetanned
    Janetanned Member Posts: 532
    edited November 2014


    Renya - I'm sorry that you have oncs that don't work with you in treatment.  But I am glad that you have been NED for so long.  It gives us all hope!  I see that you were on AIs (Aromisin) for quite some time after 6 months of Femara.  They seem to be working for you.  Excellent! My onc has always said that my 'real' treatment will be the 5+ yrs of AIs.  She recommended chemo, but really felt the AIs were going to save my life.  So far, so good!

    I don't think laser surgery would have worked for me either.  My ILC was wide spread and not clearly defined.  I'm glad it worked for you! 

  • chef127
    chef127 Member Posts: 891
    edited November 2014

    Dr. Ansanelli is literally one in a million. When I researched laser surgery he was the only dr in the country I could find who performed this amazing sx. I got 2 opinions and the first BS gave me no choice but a mast and complete node removal, the 2nd BS wanted to do neo chemo ACT to shrink the tumor to make the surgery easier for her. Both reasonable but my argument was that the 4.5cm tumor was small compared to my over sized breasts, and I was not willing to do the neo chemo. 

    I agree that a wide spread ILC would not be a good choice for the laser, but he does do mast when needed. A clean and bloodless sx. Very small chance of cancer cell spread bc the co2 laser seals blood vessels and lymphatics as it removes the tumor, all under intravenous sedation. NO anesthesia! and he performed a mastopexy to reshape the breast and minimize deformity. Nice outcome except for a 6 inch scar at the tumor site which I tattooed with a vine of chilli peppers.

    He takes insurance but it did cost me 3,500$ out of pocket....Well worth it.

    His office is on park ave in NYC or Plainview Long Island, NY for surgery. I agree he saved my life..and my breast. 

    Maureenxox

  • gemini4
    gemini4 Member Posts: 532
    edited November 2014

    I visited the website for the laser surgery center, and I'm confused ... Can the laser surgery actually remove a breast?  The wording made it sound like it "vaporizes" the tumor.  I wonder if this type of procedure would be appropriate for a tumor like Abigail's (that has broken through skin, if I understand it correctly from her description). 

  • chef127
    chef127 Member Posts: 891
    edited November 2014

    The laser does not vaporize the tumor. Dr A showed me the tumor after it was excised. Big, fatty looking and a black spot in the center of it. UGLY. 

    It's not really clear what is going on with Abigail's breast but my tumor was very close to the surface and if I left it much longer I bet it would have popped through the skin. If you call them I'm sure they will answer your questions but he does require a DX sent to him or he can DX the situation. Traveling to LI is no fun and expensive if you need to stay at a hotel.

  • juneping
    juneping Member Posts: 1,594
    edited November 2014

    chef - thanks for the detailed explanation.....it's so sad that i still couldn't afford it. why on earth something this fantastic but not offered commonly??!! 

    i had small breasts and my tumor was huge...i wonder what it's like to have laser surgery operated on me....

  • NJoy
    NJoy Member Posts: 30
    edited November 2014

    I grew up in Nyack area and my dad took to Dr Schachter when I was a kid....long before he started treating people for cancer....I did a consult with him and have attended many of his lectures...he's a real maverick and also very pricey....I will say that for the money they spend a lot of time with you on the initial intake and  work up ...I was there for hours....he's big into vitamin c infusions....apricot seeds and so much more ... treatment can cost a small fortune tho .. 

  • NJoy
    NJoy Member Posts: 30
    edited November 2014

    Love this post!!!  agree with so much of what you're saying here.... the pull we experience in the orthodox world stems from fear ... its like swimming in a rip tide toward the beach and being unable to get out cause you're swimming un the wrong direction!!.... I know in my heart that I need to go alternative because it makes sence to me... I dont understand the chemo thing either .... I keep thinking that the body was not built to go from chemo drug to chemo drug ..... I opted out of chemo on my original diagnosis because of many of the things you said in your post .... unfortunately I progressed to liver mets. .... ??? .... this time around my fear was off the wall...the diagnosis was totally unexoected and it took me out!!  Im waiting to be accepted as a patient by an alternative doctor in NYC which is a process, and I could not rationalize remaining untreated until then..fearful that my liver will be overwhelmed and shut down.....where do you go from there? I didnt know where to go from there so I did an iral chemo drug ..but I do feel like I got caught in the tide sometimes..I dont beliece in regret so I wont go there but.I hate that Im on a chemo med ... I know what that means for me .... I fear chemo more than I fear cancer ... what treatment do you do now?....just curious... are you stage Iv? ....  I appreciated your post .. thanks for putting all that out there ... Nadine

  • chef127
    chef127 Member Posts: 891
    edited November 2014

    Juneping,

    It is unfortunate that laser surgery is not offered. Dr A was trained in Italy and then did BC laser surgery in one of the big hospitals in NYC for years. I guess insurance covered it and he was on salary with the hospital and now has to charge more than the ins covers. that hospital F$$$'d him. IDK. Lots of intense training goes into this for surgeons and the cost of the laser is high. I'm assuming that the other surgeons in the hospital were losing business and profits to laser. He is training Drs to continue this remarkable procedure.

    I had no need for reconstruction on that breast and I went from a EE cup to a large C, had a reduction on the other side. Laser makes for a clean line incision. IF I need a mast if I recur Dr A is my man.

  • juneping
    juneping Member Posts: 1,594
    edited November 2014

    chef - thanks for sharing. (((hugs)))

  • Momine
    Momine Member Posts: 7,859
    edited November 2014

    Chef, thanks very much for the explanation.

  • abigail48
    abigail48 Member Posts: 1,699
    edited November 2014

    abigail is reading here this thread. very interesting.  gary said recently about the infusions, that it always comes back  now your immune system has been destroyed.

  • exbrnxgrl
    exbrnxgrl Member Posts: 12,424
    edited November 2014

    Always is a strong word. Gary is not correct.

  • abigail48
    abigail48 Member Posts: 1,699
    edited November 2014

    yes always is a strong word.  I had that injection anesthetic once, the surgery led to a hemhorrage the next day as I recall.  I needed to be rushed to our gp who stemmed the tide quite quickly & well, but I did wreck one of my mothers wonderful copper/tin lined wedding present pots, don't know if she retired it, she had a few, I would have.  that anesthetic is called sodium pentothal as I remember.  aka truth serum.  wonder what I blabbed under it, not that I had much to blab that young.

  • Momine
    Momine Member Posts: 7,859
    edited November 2014

    Abigail, I know many people who have had "the infusions" i.e. chemo and who have never had the cancer come back. My mother is one of them, my ex-BIL is another, and he had treatment 35 years ago. Gary is not a medical professional and holds some esoteric beliefs, so although he is entitled like anyone to express an opinion, one should not consider him any kind of authority on medical matters.

  • BrooksideVT
    BrooksideVT Member Posts: 2,211
    edited November 2014

    Abigail, we are right in the middle of Medicare's sign-up phase.  Have you gone to your Social Security office to sign up?  I know last year you regretted that you had missed the window.

  • abigail48
    abigail48 Member Posts: 1,699
    edited November 2014

    tried once again to sign up by internet.  have written the ss office twice with return receipt registered mail, have contacted my house representative for this district & even voted for him despite his horrendous voting record:  voting the exact opposite of what he promises), got 2 letters back from him plus a paper which I signed & returned which he says will expedize his help.  tried phoning th us ss office, on hod for 15 minutes the voice kept saying go to the internet.  next move to get another birth certificate from ca,  ss local, (an hr away & I don't drive) said the copy I sent they couldn't accept.  I was told if I sent the original copy I'd never get it back.  

  • BrooksideVT
    BrooksideVT Member Posts: 2,211
    edited November 2014

    Abigail, I just went to ssa.gov, clicked on benefits, then typed "Medicare" in the search window.  Here's part of the next screen:


    "Use our online application to sign up for Medicare. It takes less than 10 minutes. In most cases, once your application is submitted electronically, you’re done. There are no forms to sign and usually no documentation is required. Social Security will process your application and contact you if we need more information. Otherwise you’ll receive your Medicare card in the mail."

    Could you try that?

  • abigail48
    abigail48 Member Posts: 1,699
    edited November 2014

    already did.  didn't work

  • Momine
    Momine Member Posts: 7,859
    edited November 2014

    Abigail, why did it not work?

  • cp418
    cp418 Member Posts: 7,079
    edited November 2014
  • abigail48
    abigail48 Member Posts: 1,699
    edited November 2014

    I'd need to do it for the manyth time to be sure.  I've tried it more than twice.  I think there was a note that if it wasn't woeking go to the phone number & there it said go to the internet.  but I'm not going to take the time to look again.  infuriating.  good question though momine.  could be because I don;t have social security.  one person at the office for ageing near here, she's since retired, reminds me of the fire marshal who retired right after the studio fire on '03 when I tried to contact him again to tell him something that i'd remembered about a question he'd asked.  I think you read in the disappeared forum as I recall, I just don't compute.  I used to think probably everyone was like that but not I realize it's me after all

  • Momine
    Momine Member Posts: 7,859
    edited November 2014

    Abigail, I thought that might be why. Why do you not have social security?

  • abigail48
    abigail48 Member Posts: 1,699
    edited November 2014

    another good question. as I discovered the first time ss notified me, I was always off the books except for my first work which was only the summer after graduating from university.

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