Recurrence after bilat mastectomy?

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  • Bren58
    Bren58 Member Posts: 1,048
    edited September 2014

    Jenn, I did not have chemo with the first BC.  BMX took care of it for 12 years. When I got BC again, I had to do chemo and ALND surgery.

  • MinusTwo
    MinusTwo Member Posts: 16,634
    edited September 2014

    Jenn - I did not have chemo with my first BC & BMX either, but the recurrence was only 2 years out.  This time I had two chemo regimes & ALND surgery & rads.

  • TwoHobbies
    TwoHobbies Member Posts: 2,118
    edited October 2014

    Jenn I'm so sorry your biopsy came back positive.  I completely remember the feeling of having to do all this when I was just feeling whole and happy again.  As Cider said, you do what you got to do and it still sucks but you still do it.  One year later, I am feeling much better and whole and I have hair.  I'm so sorry to welcome you to the club, but you aren't alone.

  • Jaimieh
    Jaimieh Member Posts: 2,373
    edited October 2014

    Jenn I had a recurrence after a dbl. the biggest ? Is what the receptors are. I am currently bald BUT that was because of the AC. If I had done TC this time I would have used the cold caps to try and keep my hair. I hope you get some answers soon. 

  • Jennjdance
    Jennjdance Member Posts: 130
    edited October 2014

    Sorry for the delay in writing again. It's been a lot to take in. I found out, it was triple negative, early stage 2A- no lymph nodes infected. It was a new primary cancer, in the other breast after a double mastectomy. Same diagnosis exactly as last time. My son was 1 when this happened, now my other son is 1. Really deja vu. I already had my surgery a week ago and my drain will come out tomorrow. I'm feeling good. Dreading the chemo in about 3 weeks, but it's only 4 rounds, whereas last time I had 16. I'm getting TC. Jaimieh- you mentioned you would have used the cold caps if you did TC. What do you know about this?

    I'm feeling very scared these days. I'm glad it was contained but if it came back after all that surgery and chemo last time....I'm petrified it's going to happen again. I have two small children that I am devastated for. I consider myself "lucky" b/c both times it hadn't spread, but would I be so lucky next time? Praying this second "hit" will defeat it for good. Ladies who are in my situation.....how many years out are you from your 2nd diagnosis?

  • Bren58
    Bren58 Member Posts: 1,048
    edited October 2014

    I am 2 years out from second dx. I just had my 6 month check up and all was good.

  • thirdgenerationmomof2
    thirdgenerationmomof2 Member Posts: 248
    edited October 2014

    Hi ladies, I'm not sure if I'm posting in the right forum or not but I need some input. 21 months ago I was diagnosed with stage 1, IDC and underwent a BMX. I had 3 nodes removed with tested negative for cancer, no rads or chemo but on Tamoxifen. I've had 2 rounds of genetic testing. Found negative for BRCA but positive for the BARD1 gene (linked to breast/ovarian cancer). Fast forward to 5 weeks ago where I underwent a complete hysterectomy with ovary removal to reduce my risk for ovarian cancer. I've been feeling pretty good and recovering well from my last surgery. This morning I had a sharp pain in my armpit (same side as bc and where I had nodes removed). I go to feel in my armpit and am shocked to find a small, hard lump! I am terrified! Is it really possible that the bc is back, even though I've done everything in my power to reduce any chances of it coming back? My first call in the morning will be to my MO. I just don't know if I'm strong enough to go through all of this again!!

  • Jennjdance
    Jennjdance Member Posts: 130
    edited October 2014


    Unfortunately it is possible. I had stage 2A (no lymph nodes) four years ago, and had a double mastectomy and 16 rounds of chemo. Fast forward 4 years and it's back as a new primary cancer in the other breast. I'm so depressed. I have two little kids. It's so unfair.

  • Bren58
    Bren58 Member Posts: 1,048
    edited October 2014

    Third, try not to jump to conclusions until after you see the doctor. There are other things that could be causing the pain and the lump. Even if it is a lymph node, it doesn't mean it is cancer. The job of our lymph nodes is to go into action to fight infection and disease, so it might not have anything to do with BC. Think of the lymph nodes is your neck when you get a cold, they get a little swollen until your body fends off the virus. Also if it is on the side you had nodes removed, perhaps it is scar tissue. I am not trying to downplay your fears, just trying to encourage you to not go to that dark place until you see the doctor and get all the facts. I know it is easier said than done, and I do know how hard it is not to be scared about anything out of the ordinary in the breast area. Please keep is posted on what you find out.

  • MinusTwo
    MinusTwo Member Posts: 16,634
    edited October 2014

    Bren - very well said.  Third - by all means please let us know after you talk to your doc.

  • thirdgenerationmomof2
    thirdgenerationmomof2 Member Posts: 248
    edited October 2014

    Jenn so sorry to hear about the new primary in your other breast. You are right, it is so not fair! I think a reoccurrence is a fear all of us share, never truly knowing "if or when" the cancer may come back. Do you have a plan in place from your doctor yet on treatment?

    Bren thank you for the words of encouragement. I'm really trying not  to go "there" in my head, but it's hard. The past 2 years have been so difficult for me and I finally thought I was to the place where I could put cancer, hospitals, surgeries, treatments, etc behind me. I hope and pray you're right and that this lump is nothing serious. I'll keep everyone posted on what my MO says. 

  • tobyj
    tobyj Member Posts: 19
    edited October 2014

    Hi ladies.  I was just informed by a new breast surgeon with top cancer hospital that my former bilateral mastectomies (that were done in 2009 at a community hospital, unfortunately) did not remove a lot of breast tissue.  There is still a lot of breast tissue left.  I have had 10 surgeries related to breast cancer (in addition to recent surgeries from other injuries), so I am quite upset to learn this.  I have had several suspicous masses almost every year since the mastectomies.  MRI in April confirmed suspicious mass.  Have a repeat breast MRI in a few weeks to confirm, but am mostly upset to learn that basically my bilateral mastectomies were not complete.  I asked if the new surgeon can remove the excess breast tissue and he said it would be another major surgery.  However, I thought the idea was to lesson my risks, help alleviate spread of possible cancer cells and overall concern.  I feel sick over this.  Anyone knowledge to share of similar findings?  Thank you.  God bless.

  • Bren58
    Bren58 Member Posts: 1,048
    edited October 2014

    toby I see you have been dealing with this for a while. Hopefully your new BS will be able to sort all of this out and give you a treatment plan that will lessen your risk of recurrence. Let us know when you get the results of the MRI.

  • thirdgenerationmomof2
    thirdgenerationmomof2 Member Posts: 248
    edited October 2014

    Hi ladies, I met with my MO on Tuesday about the lump I found under my arm. He did not seem too worried. Upon examination and based on where the lump is located, he feels it is just left over residual effects from my biopsy and sentinal node dissection. It is in the same area, and while the lump is hard, it is also movable as well. He said he understands my concern and being worried, because there is never a complete guarantee. However, he said I should not lose sleep over it. He's ordered a lymph node ultrasound and biopsy if they see anything suspicious though just to be sure. I go next Tuesday for my ultrasound. Keeping my fingers crossed I receive good news!

  • JustJean
    JustJean Member Posts: 327
    edited October 2014

    I'm joining the club, unwillingly. A few weeks ago, while in the shower, my washcloth found a lump along my mastectomy scar. I had just seen a MO three weeks before and an exam showed no lump. Within a few days I was at my breast specialist and had an ultrasound. There was disagreement as to what the lump was, so a body scan (hadn't had one in two years) and a needle biopsy were scheduled and I had them this last Wednesday. Results are "aggressive ILC"  and so here we go again. This journey started ten years ago with Stage 0 LCIS. A lumpectomy. Another lumpectomy. A quadrantectomy. And then the bilateral mastectomy in May 2010 with a Stage 2B diagnosis. And now this (biopsy results pending for type etc). I am luckier than many, I know this well, but I sure am tired of this. So now I have an appt with the surgeon and a new MO and here we go again...  ...sigh...

  • april485
    april485 Member Posts: 3,257
    edited October 2014

    To all of you wonderful ladies, I am so sorry that you are going through all of this after doing everything to prevent recurrence/second primary/third etc. It is my big fear and everytime I get cocky and think I am done forever, I take a look over here and realize that this is NEVER over until they plant me in the ground. Hugs and prayers for a speedy recovery from your new treatment regimen. You are all in my thoughts.

  • Bren58
    Bren58 Member Posts: 1,048
    edited October 2014

    Third, I am glad you are getting a biopsy, that is really the only way to know for sure.

    Jean, I am so sorry you are going the club...again. It's not fun the first time, and not fun the second time either. But at least the second time, hopefully we are a little more educated on what to expect and what kinds of questions to ask.

  • JustJean
    JustJean Member Posts: 327
    edited October 2014

    And the 5th time, like me, I'm just so OVER it. Ugh. I'm continuing to try to count my blessings, though. But it sure ain't easy.

  • thirdgenerationmomof2
    thirdgenerationmomof2 Member Posts: 248
    edited October 2014

    Hi ladies, had my ultrasound appointment on Tuesday for the lump I found in my lymph nodes. Did not go too well, the radiologist said it's definitely not scar tissue. She said it could be a reactive lymph node from some sort of infection or it could be cancerous. She was concerned enough to do a biopsy right then. I've seen that concerned look before, and am scared to death. As I laid there on the table everything from the past 2 years came flooding back. I don't know if I'm strong enough to go through this again. I had just gotten to a place where I thought I could put cancer behind me and move on with my life. I'm trying not to jump ahead prematurely but it's very hard. She said I should have the biopsy results by the end of this week or early next week. She said either my MO would call me or she would call me once they have news.

  • Bren58
    Bren58 Member Posts: 1,048
    edited October 2014

    Third I am sorry that it did not go well Let us know when you get the results. (((hugs)))

  • thirdgenerationmomof2
    thirdgenerationmomof2 Member Posts: 248
    edited October 2014

    Thank you Bren! I'll keep everyone posted when I hear more.

  • Beatmon
    Beatmon Member Posts: 1,562
    edited October 2014

    I had recurrence exactly 2 years after BM for IDC...very small areas. Still under care of onco...no scans, just lab and good exams. Had final implants July 1, had superficial cellulitis on skin of rt breast Aug.7. Immediately admitted for IV Vancouver and CT scan for possible drain implant in rt breast. No implant infection found.....but 50 pulmonary nodules, found to be cancer! I was completely asymtomatic. No telling how much worse it would have gotten. Why do the insurance companies not allow routine screening after cancer diagnosis? I also understand we don't want unnecessary radiation, but chemo and nuelasta and Stage 4 is no walk in the park either!

  • Bren58
    Bren58 Member Posts: 1,048
    edited October 2014

    wow, beatmom, that is very fortunate that they found it all! I am sorry that you are going through this all over again.

    I just went for my 6 month check up 2 years after dx. No scans, no bloodwork, nothing. I was really surprised that he didn't even want blood work since my white cells were still really low in July when my GYN did bloodwork. On another thread that I follow some were questioning why even go to the MO to be followed if they aren't going to do anything.

  • MinusTwo
    MinusTwo Member Posts: 16,634
    edited October 2014

    I convinced my MO to do a PET/CT at the end of this 18 months treatment in September.  I just wanted to know if I was NED even if only for one day.  He seems to think it's easier to get scans paid for when you've had a recurrence or mets, but maybe it was the timing.  I was NED after DCIS & BMX and turned up with regional recurrence & IDC in less than two years.  I trust my surgeon implicitly when she diagnosed clean margins & nodes and she was horrified that I was back.  Oh well, microburst escaped cell(s) I guess.

    Bren - sounds like you were all clear after your original DCIS & mastectomy too.  Too bad they don't check for HER2 on a DCIS diagnosis.  I wonder if either of us would have had more extensive treatment earlier &/or if it would have made any difference.  The research article the MODs posted this week about Herceptin & Perjeta was very interesting

  • thirdgenerationmomof2
    thirdgenerationmomof2 Member Posts: 248
    edited October 2014

    Got my results today from my lymph node biopsy. It was benign!!! Yay! So excited and relieved! They just want me to follow up with another ultrasound in 3 months.

  • wambles
    wambles Member Posts: 67
    edited November 2014

    Am seriously scared. I was first diagnosed with Stage 1, Grade 1 IDC in 2010, had 2 lumpectomies' (2nd to get margins) Radiotherapy and tamoxifen. I came off of tamoxifen due to toxicity.

    June this year, I was diagnosed with a recurrence. But Grade 2 this time. I've had a bilateral mastectomy (no recon) and I'm getting zolodex shots while I await an oophorectomy. I'm also awaiting results from an MRI which was performed because my nuclear bone scan showed a hot spot in my right hip.

    just don't know what to think anymore?

  • MinusTwo
    MinusTwo Member Posts: 16,634
    edited November 2014

    Third - wonderful news.  So glad for you.

    Wambles - we'll keep you in our thoughts.  Hope the MRI doesn't show more problems. 

  • JustJean
    JustJean Member Posts: 327
    edited November 2014

    I understand seriously scared, wambles. I started with Stage 0 LCIS and now 5 recurrances later here I am again. It seems like the madness just will not end.

  • Bren58
    Bren58 Member Posts: 1,048
    edited November 2014

    Third, that is great news!!! I am so happy for you!

    wambles, I am so sorry you are here again. Please let us know when you get the MRI results. Are you going on one of the AI's after the oopherectomy?

    Jean, 5 times is a lot for anyone to handle. (((hugs)))

  • 2young4it
    2young4it Member Posts: 3
    edited November 2014

    hi - I have 2 lumps that I found on mastectomy side (single mx April 2013) above left breast near armpit. Found one 6 months ago and it can be seen poking out of skin. Other is smaller but near. 1st ultrasound 6 months ago showed mass with smooth edges so surgeon only recommended a follow up in 6 months. Yesterday was the 6mo follow up and the larger has slightly reduced in size although feels and looks the same to me and now has fluid inside. Small one is all fluid. Radiologist and Surgeon recommend another 6 month follow up. Makes me nervous to leave these in and why another 6 month follow up?? I would prefer to just removed them. Anyone else have something similar? Should I be concerned of a reoccurance?

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