The Truth about Cancer

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  • exbrnxgrl
    exbrnxgrl Member Posts: 12,424
    edited October 2014

    Yup, I watched it. One ethical lapse doesn't justify another. I may be rather fortunate but I have never been threatened or bullied in to any aspect of my tx. I have been and always will be in charge of my care and tx ,not my doctors. You have a good night too.

  • wrenn
    wrenn Member Posts: 2,707
    edited October 2014

    I've been watching it and getting some useful information. After 9 episodes I am feeling manipulated and sold to.  the videos they are selling are not cheap and Ty Bollinger themperson hosting is driving a big SUV and really is a salesman whether he believes what he is selling or not. When he described the way he responded to his wife when she told him she was diabetic I realized he was a bully.  i will still watch for any tips but the only really useful information to me so far is to eat clean and certain supplements sound like they might benefit.  

    i think the stress of getting too anal about any protocol wreaks havock on immune systems.

  • exbrnxgrl
    exbrnxgrl Member Posts: 12,424
    edited October 2014

    "i think the stress of getting too anal about any protocol wreaks havock on immune systems."

    Wrenn,

    Isn't that the truth! Compulsion is generally not good for the soul. Be flexible, be happy and enjoy life.

  • Momine
    Momine Member Posts: 7,859
    edited October 2014

    Wrenn, I agree. I have come across Bollinger before, early in my cancer travails. I quickly concluded that he was full of it. 

    It is true that some in mainstream medicine seek to profit from cancer patients, but it is equally the case with many alternative practitioners.

  • Momine
    Momine Member Posts: 7,859
    edited October 2014

    June, do they explain how the molecule maintains it "handedness" once it is chemically changed into glucose?

  • gemini4
    gemini4 Member Posts: 532
    edited October 2014

    Lily, a rebounder is a fancy name for a mini trampoline!  :-)

    I think i might ask Santa Claus for one.  I have my eye on the JumpSport Fitness Trampoline Model 250 at Amazon.com. It has good reviews and isn't as expensive as top-of-the-line models.  Rebounding sounds like it could be something I would enjoy doing. 

  • juneping
    juneping Member Posts: 1,594
    edited October 2014

    okay i am going to share my rebounding experience.

    it's my second day of doing it. i have been doing yoga since Feb. rebounding is not as easy as i imagined. it's still some work but fun of course. and i have to say i felt it puts some pressure into my knees especially my left knee, not sure why. and its a little bit similar to swimmer, after i got off the rebounder, and jump with the music, i felt i was 1000 pounds...lol. i have developed a little lower back pain and i didn't feel it since i started.

    i have my music on and follow the rhythms...

    hope my review helps someone here...

  • gemini4
    gemini4 Member Posts: 532
    edited October 2014

    hi June -- thanks for the info!  So just to clarify, are you saying your back pain has improved or worsened since rebounding?

    There are very cheap rebounders out there (like $50 and under) -- truly mini trampolines -- I wonder if I should get one of those first to see how I like it and then spring for (ha! Pun!) the more expensive one?  Hmmm ....

  • juneping
    juneping Member Posts: 1,594
    edited October 2014

    i meant my lower back pain subsided a little. i don't know why it started when i started yoga. certain poses upset my lower back i guess. yes, get a cheap one first to see if you like it. 

    i was told you can do it in a 10 min interval and do a few a day. depends on your life style. i work so i do it all at once..

  • juneping
    juneping Member Posts: 1,594
    edited October 2014

    http://www.healingdaily.com/exercise/health-benefi...

    Bouncing on a mini-trampoline may not be your idea of a strenuous aerobic exercise and it may not strike you as having significant health benefits, but, in fact, both are the case. Rebounding, as this form of safe, gentle, no-impact exercise is commonly called, burns more calories than jogging.

    Trampoline bouncing also can strengthen your heart, improve your circulation, stimulate the flow in your lymphatic system, help slow the effects of aging, revitalize vision, reduce stress, and benefit children with learning disabilities and cystic fibrosis. (With regard to stress: Transcendental meditationhas helped me make marked improvements in not only my health and behavior but all aspects of my life. I highly recommend you look into it .)

    Rebounding offers an exercise that can be adjusted to your fitness level, is easy on your joints and back, and can be done in your home at your convenience. The rebounding device is a mini-trampoline with a flexible jumping surface measuring 28 to 36 inches in diameter and set six to nine inches off the ground.

    Rebounding may be used in conjunction with niacin use to help detoxify fatty tissues.

    The jumping mat is attached to the frame with a series of coil springs, providing a good rebound while remaining firm on the downward bounce. Unlike a regular trampoline, the rebounding device is not meant for bouncing high or performing gymnastic tricks.

    Rebounding is a unique exercise in that you achieve a weightless state at the top of each jump then land with twice the force of gravity on each bounce. This twice-gravity bounce affects every muscle and cell of the body. Researchers at the University of Kentucky, in conjunction with NASA, concluded that "the magnitude of the biomechanical stimuli is greater with jumping on a trampoline than with running."

    For example, a 150-pound person spending one hour on a rebounder will burn about 410 calories; the same person jogging for one hour (at the pace of five miles per hour) will burn only 355 calories.

    They further reported, based on their testing of physiological responses in eight men, age 19 to 26: "These responses measured by whole-body vibration [on the trampoline] resemble those during mild exercise and suggest that perhaps body vibration could be used in place of exercise."

    All May Benefit From Rebounding Exercise

    According to the Healthy Cell News, other rebounding benefits include decreasing headaches (both frequency and strength), reducing back and joint pains, alleviating arthritic symptoms, such as pain and inflammation, and boosting energy levels. Because the exercise provided by rebounding is sufficiently gentle, both the elderly and the pregnant can safely participate; in addition, it is suitable for those who are physically handicapped and those recovering from an accident or injury or who are otherwise hampered by a physical problem.

    Rebounding Helps Move the Lymph

    One of rebounding's special benefits is its ability to improve flow in the lymphatic system. The lymphatic system is the metabolic garbage can of the body. It rids the body of toxins, fatigue substances, dead cells, cancer cells, nitrogenous wastes, trapped protein, fatty globules, pathogenic bacteria, infectious viruses, foreign substances, heavy metals, and other assorted junk the cells cast off.

    Stagnant or inadequate lymph flow is associated with the onset of many symptoms and illnesses, including bursitis in the shoulders, bunions, joint stiffness or soft tissue spasms, dry flaking skin, bad breath, body odors, lethargy, depression, and cancer. Unlike the circulatory system with the heart as its pump, the lymph system lacks a pump to move the fluid. It is vital that the lymph fluids continue to flow in order to eliminate waste from the body. The flow is dependent on muscle contractions and body movements, massage and other forms of compression, and gravity. One of the best ways to stimulate this flow is by exercising.

    The lymph system consists of lymph nodes which are clusters of immune tissuethat work as filters or "inspection stations" for detecting foreign and potentially harmful substances in the lymph fluid. Acting like spongy filter bags, lymph nodes are part of the lymphatic system, which is the body's master drain. While the body has many dozens of lymph nodes, they are mostly clustered in the neck, armpits, chest, groin, and abdomen.

    lymph nodes

    Lymph fluid (1-2 quarts) accounts for 1-3% of body weight. Exercise can increase lymph flow by 15 times.

    Rebounding Stimulates The Lymph

    Rebounding specifically stimulates the flow of lymph fluid. The change in gravitational forces experienced during rebounding allows for greater blood flow, which in turn increases the amount of waste products flushed from cells.

    "The lymphatic [flow] becomes very active during exercise but sluggish under resting conditions," states Arthur C. Guyton, M.D., chairman of the department of Physiology and Biophysics at the University of Mississippi School of Medicine and author of Basic Human Physiology. "During exercise, the rate of lymph flow can increase to as high as 14 times normal because of the increased activity." This happens because the lymph ducts expand during rebounding. The increased lymph flow flushes more toxins through the lymphatic system.

    Rebounding Has Anti-Aging Benefits

    One of the primary causes of the physical deterioration associated with aging is the declining performance of the heart and circulatory system. The pumping force of the heart decreases by 8% per decade in adulthood; lung capacity decreases, muscles lose strength, reaction time slows, and bones lose their mineral content. Exercise can help halt or at least slow this aging process.

    "So many people 'rust' out before they wear out because they fail to realize that the human body was made to be used for as long as the person lives," says Robert E. Wear, M.D., an exercise physiologist at the University of New Hampshire who has designed exercise programs for nursing homes.

    Regular exercise helps prevent clogging of the arteries and lessening of cardiac performance. Exercises like rebounding that work the leg muscles help keep the blood moving. The contractions of these muscles (the calf muscles in particular) during exercise act like pumps to circulate the blood back up to the heart for fresh oxygen.

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    The decreases in mental abilities and reaction time that often come with aging are caused only partially by the lessening of heart function. Rebounding stimulates the brain and visual cortex during exercise to maintain balance and coordination. Animal studies have shown that exercise can increase enzyme activity in the brain and cause other positive functional changes in the nervous system.

    Aerobics can strengthen heart muscles and produce other cardiovascular changes so that the heart can pump more blood with fewer beats. This means your resting (normal) heart rate will be lower, which is good. By regularly working your heart harder during exercise, you improve its overall function so that it doesn't have to work as hard during your normal activities.

    A conditioned person may have a resting heart rate 20 beats per minute slower than a deconditioned person. He saves 10,000 beats in one night's sleep. Reducing the day-to-day workload of your heart can lessen your chances of developing heart disease.

    Rebounding Good For Blood And Lungs

    Aerobic exercises such as rebounding increase red blood cell count, allowing faster oxygen transport through the body, and can help lower elevated blood pressure. Aerobic exercise helps dissolve blood clots and increases the amount of high-density lipoproteins (HDL, the so-called "good" cholesterol and a major factor in the prevention of atherosclerosis) in the blood.

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    The capacity of the lungs also increases, enabling them to process more air and replenish oxygen in the cells of the body's tissues and organs more quickly. Metabolism (conversion of food into energy) is enhanced and you tend to absorb nutrients from your food more efficiently. Any tendency towards constipation, kidney stones, or diabetes is reduced by this form of exercise.

    Regular exercise not only improves your health, it may extend your life. Two recent studies show a strong link between exercise and a decline in mortality rates. They show that engaging in physical activity, no matter what your age or how often you exercise, lowers your risk of early death.

    Rebounding Is For People Of All Ages

    Overall, after adjusting for the mortality-increasing effects of chronic illnesses, cigarette smoking, and other factors, the authors reported that, nonetheless, there exists "a strong inverse association between risk of all-cause mortality and level of physical fitness in both men and women." In other words, higher levels of fitness translate into a longer life.

    Men who were physically active were at a lower risk of death from all causes than were sedentary ones, but this relationship was not as pronounced for women. Risk of death specifically from cancer dropped sharply as fitness levels increased for men; with women, while the same trend was present, the differences were less pronounced.

    Older women can benefit significantly from regular exercise. In one of the largest studies of its kind involving women, the University of Minnesota School of Public Health looked at the physical activity levels of 40,417 postmenopausal women in Iowa. The women ranged in age from 55 to 69 and were followed for seven years.

    The researchers found that women who exercised frequently (at least four times per week) and intensely could reduce their risk of premature death by as much as 30%. Even those women who exercised relatively infrequently-once per week-still showed decreased mortality from all causes, the study reported. Exercising more frequently and with more intensity led to greater reductions in mortality, the researchers concluded.

  • Cath57
    Cath57 Member Posts: 47
    edited October 2014

    I just ordered the series as I await the supposed time that I start radiation. My surgeon says that I should wait Up to 3 mos as I have a lot if dense scar tissue that needs to be massaged & softened. She said radiation would make it worse .I'm seriously considering not going through Rads. I have DCIS stage 1 grade 1, lumpectomy wire guided recision without clear margins the first go around , but after 2nd surgery, clean margins. My thoughts are why blanket all cases with the protocol of radiation after lumpectomy ?  I have changed my diet gradually but will do so more radically should I decide to forego radiation. I look foreword to watching the series to help me with the decision making process

  • BrooksideVT
    BrooksideVT Member Posts: 2,211
    edited October 2014

    June, great info about the rebounder.  I'm particularly taken by the instant of weightlessness at the apex of the, er, bound.  The gym I've been going to is closing, so I need to purchase a treadmill.  MIght as well do a two-fer, and get the rebounder (cheap variety) as well.  Cath, is anyone helping you with that scar tissue?  A lymphedema therapist did wonders with mine.  Probably a physical therapist would also know the right techniques.

  • pipers_dream
    pipers_dream Member Posts: 618
    edited October 2014

    June thanks for the info on the rebounder and I'm glad to hear that you love it--I know you were excited about getting that.  I've been jumping since January and I have barely missed a day.  I usually jump 15 min in the morning right after getting up and then another 15 min in the late afternoon after my cat nap.  I started really slow b/c I was pretty out of shape and had plantar fasciitis that I didn't want to aggravate.  Well, since the first week was over, I've not had a single problem with PF.  

    So I just started with the "health bounce," which is where you slowly bounce but w/o letting your feet lift off the mat.  As I got livelier and lost more weight, I started bouncing pretty energetically and now it is lots of fun.  Bluegrass is my favorite jumping music.  I also have a bellicon--before I got rid of my $35 Walmart model, I tested them side by side.  Ugh, the WM version was awful compared to the Bellicon so you might want to start with something a bit better or you may not like it at all.  I read somewhere and can't remember where, but a study claimed that rebounding is the single best exercise for cancer patients b/c of the superior lymph draining capabilities.  Supposedly, lactic acid tends to congregate around the tumor and acts as "food" to the tumor, but lymph drainage carries that away. All I know is that I've always hated running, but I love rebounding and maybe it's b/c it's more like dancing which I love.  

    Supposedly it can be done even while on chemo, and can help with some of the SE, though I'd imagine that if you feel like crap you might just want to stick with the health bounce till you feel like doing more.  Also, if something is wrong with your legs or feet you can get just as much benefit from sitting on it and bouncing and I do that sometimes anyway to get belly exercise.  

    Oh, another benefit to exercise is that it lowers your blood sugar and that can only be a good thing.  Even if you've stopped eating sugar altogether and have lowered your carbs, it can still be difficult to keep your BS down, esp if you're still overweight.  Exercise works almost instantly--faster than anything else.  From my studies I have come to the conclusion that keeping your BS in a tight range is more important than actually avoiding sweets. Thus if you're the type who has a tight BS range naturally, then avoiding sugar may not be as critical for you, but for those who are overweight even a little (esp in the belly), you probably have some problems. Me?  I am highly reactive to sugar and avoid it like the devil these days.  I have become pretty resistant to its charms but I don't fool myself--if I had a taste of the stuff I'd soon be rolling in the corner and eating every candy bar in sight, lol.  Interestingly, carrot juice does not make me want to pig out.  Hmm?  I put a little fat in mine to slow the BS effects and help absorb the Vit and Min.  

  • Momine
    Momine Member Posts: 7,859
    edited October 2014

    Piper, I was never told not to exercise while doing chemo, the opposite. Exercise helps against SEs, improves mood etc. I walked a huge amount.

  • juneping
    juneping Member Posts: 1,594
    edited October 2014

    brook - they have all the episodes available this weekend. You might want to take advantages of it. I am going to rewatch 6,7and 8

    Piper - wow thanks for more info on rebounding . I started from 30 min and  my knees hurt a little but i continued and it's much better now. It really relieve my lower back pain. 

  • Cath57
    Cath57 Member Posts: 47
    edited October 2014

    At this point, BrooksideVT, I haven't had any help with the scar tissue. My surgeon just told me to do gentle massage. I think I will investigate more on this subject & look into a PT or lymphedema specialist . Thanks for mentioning that. 

  • juneping
    juneping Member Posts: 1,594
    edited October 2014

    I am not quite sure what you mean by scar tissue. My scar was so hard and I put vit E oil on it and massage it a little so the skin could absorb the oil. The scar softened up . I used it for about two weeks I think. 

  • gemini4
    gemini4 Member Posts: 532
    edited October 2014

    June, thank you for that great article. I'm definitely getting a rebounder, and Piper, you're right -- I may spring for (oh I just crack myself up with the pun again!) the $250 model that I posted in my earlier message. 

    Another exercise option that some may enjoy is one that I've discovered this summer and absolutely love. It's called Nia Technique. It's a form of joyful dance movement that's a mind/body experience. The music is fantastic. It incorporates tai chi, yoga, and other disciplines. My surgery and rads arm and shoulder became quite stiff in the last year, and since I've been doing Nia, that side is almost 100% with my non-BC side. Powerful stuff!  Check out the website www.nianow.com for more information about what this type of exercise is and to see if there are any classes offered in your area. If none, there are youtube videos that you might be able to follow (as well as videos that you can purchase). 

  • EnELLE
    EnELLE Member Posts: 42
    edited October 2014

    I started rebounding with an inexpensive one for around $40 from amazon to see if I would like it. LOVED IT! I was doing about an hour a day. Set my timer for an hour and squeezed time in here and there. Then did solid hours and the inexpensive rebounder just had elastic straps and not springs. It was straining my ankles and was causing discomfort (only when bouncing). I didn't want any injuries so I sprung for a more $$$ one with springs. No more problems and the better rebounder has much more bounce to it. Also since I will be rebounding for the rest of my life-I might as well get a good one. 

  • wrenn
    wrenn Member Posts: 2,707
    edited October 2014

    thanks for the information on rebounding.  i ordered the Urban Rebounder from Amazon because it had a 300 lb. weight limit.  i am 285 lbs and have gained in the last few months because of lymphedema making my legs and feet hurt.

    i have vertigo so i am a bit nervous about the balance factor but it has a handle. i don't imagine i will be able to do much more than a few minutes of light bouncing to start but hopeful now to get into better shape.  thanks again for the tips.

  • gemini4
    gemini4 Member Posts: 532
    edited October 2014

    wrenn, from what I've read, starting a few minutes at a time is the perfect strategy.  Maybe even a few times a day for a few minutes then work your way up.  Let us know how you do with it!  :-)

  • juneping
    juneping Member Posts: 1,594
    edited October 2014

    read this on chris beat cancer

    http://www.chrisbeatcancer.com/radical-cancer-ther...

    pretty powerful story of a man's final year of fighting cancer. the most powerful of the article is this sentence "Because doctors don’t die like the rest of us." i've never thought about it from that angle....

  • juneping
    juneping Member Posts: 1,594
    edited October 2014

    elle - bouncing for an hour? how do you do it? pls share. my knees got so stiff when i come off the rebounder.

  • wrenn
    wrenn Member Posts: 2,707
    edited October 2014

    gemini, thanks. will let you know. :-)

  • EnELLE
    EnELLE Member Posts: 42
    edited October 2014

    For rebounding-I worked up to an hour over the course of two weeks. This was about 2 weeks after I had fat transfer and an implant switch out (previous recon in 2013 had wrong size in native breast that didn't match my new breast.) I have always been active/athletic and have to keep my weight down due to hypothyroid problems. 

    Anyhow- actually the easy bouncing first 10 minutes seem to be the most challenging...like most all exercise it stinks in the beginning, but I end up smiling thru the rest of it...must be the bouncing :) So I set a timer on my phone for an hour and every 10 mins or so, would get off and walk around for a minute or so and get back on and bounce. Gradually, I was able to stay on longer and longer, just as with any exercise, your body responds. In the beginning, I wore my heart rate monitor and my heart rate would soar, but I felt okay. Now when I am bouncing- my heart rate rarely goes over 145. Darn-that means I am burning less calories :(  ...went from 1200 an hour down to about 750-but it means I am in better shape.

    I would recommend getting a heart rate monitor if you are just starting to work out or to track progress (calories/heart rate improvement) as even the feet-stay-on-the-mat rebounding, your hear rate will initially go up a lot! I bought a timex heart monitor that comes with a watch from amazon about 5 years ago from amazon for abut $40...and it is still working.

  • EnELLE
    EnELLE Member Posts: 42
    edited October 2014

    JunePing...I vary btwn light bouncing, high bouncing, jumping jacks and dancing while I bounce. 

    Also-years ago before my cancer was discovered-I discovered turmeric for my stiff knees. I took a double dose (Gaia turmeric supreme) and in 2 weeks my knee stiffness was gone and the cracking in my knees since my joging days was gone too!  I have taken it ever since - almost daily. I have read that turneric is a good anti-cancer and supposedly helps tamoxifen work better. (But don't most all of the alternative anti-cancer foods/supplements seem to "help" tamoxifen?)

  • EnELLE
    EnELLE Member Posts: 42
    edited October 2014

    Wren... I know that Ty seems intimitdating-he's a big guy and assertive, but going against conventional medicine needs someone like that who is able to get all of these people together and put it all together and have a collective voice for the first time. I am not supper fond of him-but I think it is great what he is trying to get across.

    For Pinktober do you know how much money is actually funneled into research for a cure or just new chemo drugs? I certainly would like to know if anyone has any numbers. I wonder how much goes into immunotherapy..?

    Back on subject; Ty lives in Texas.  When I moved to Texas I did not understand why everyone had huge SUVs....then the rain came down in blinding sheets that immediately started flooding. Texas is pretty flat (except for the Hill Country) so the water has nowhere to go. I flooded out a sedan car while I lived in Houston. 

  • juneping
    juneping Member Posts: 1,594
    edited October 2014

    it was pretty ridiculous to criticize one's character based on what car he drives.....or use it against him.

    elle - thanks for sharing. i think my knees hurt bc of the tamxo i am taking. i will look into the turmeric...thanks for sharing. 

  • wrenn
    wrenn Member Posts: 2,707
    edited October 2014

    Not so ridiculous where i live. It is unusual to find a giant gas guzzler in downtown Vancouver. He IS selling natural healing after all.

  • juneping
    juneping Member Posts: 1,594
    edited October 2014

    then don't buy it. 

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