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Hi everyone
The sightseeing has calmed down some, but now trying to see as much family as possible. Going to lunch with my cousin who is really more of a sister, then the mall for dinner with my sister and niece and her boys, who are very eager to spent time with me- unfortunately, I fear it is my iPad they want, not me.
Had to chime in about the holidays- used to love Christmas when the kids were young, except for the fighting over money spent. Thanksgiving was fun, but it was always just our immediate family, so it was a major dinner for the same people I cooked for every day.
Holidays really lost their joy for me when my son moved to NC 8 years ago. The table was incomplete. All I saw was the empty space, even though the table was full. The first year my husband passed, I think Tracy & I painted a room Thanksgiving day.
Now with children and grandchildren in 3 different states, I hate the holidays, and having to choose who to be with. Right now, I think I will spend Thanksgiving with Tracy in Fl, otherwise, she will be totally alone. On Christmas, I am actually thinking of spending Christmas morning in Fl with the 3 grandchildren there, because I think Victoria and Kayden are the best ages to watch open gifts, 9 & 5, then fly that day to SC, to see Lucia, then end up in Atlanta by New Years. Not exactly relaxing, but that's the way it is.
Anne
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Another wonderful fall day here. I played golf with the women's group at our club and had a delicious lunch afterwards. Then went to Sam's to pick up some food items. Then came home and sat in my chair and rested! I also watched some recorded cooking shows. It's so nice to be able to skip the commercials.
I am not going to let thoughts of the holidays crowd my mind. The holidays will come and they will pass. We always stay home for Christmas and I do quite a bit of cooking to contribute to the meal, which takes place at my sister Michelle's house. Presents are a minor part of the holiday. Everyone brings two presents for my mother because her birthday is the 27th. So she gets Christmas and birthday gifts. We also have gifts for any children who are there. If somebody feels in the mood, that somebody will bring a gift for everyone, probably home-made. DH and I usually decide to skip buying presents for each other.
One year I gave my sisters and brothers a framed picture of my mother. I took a small older photograph and had enlargements made. One year dh gave everybody a nice wooden caddy that he built. Last year my SIL Deanna made pretty embroidered dish towels and hot pads for all the women. She has one of those fancy embroidering machines that you program.
My mother always feels obligated to give a gift to each family. Guess who has to help her select and purchase this gift. Yes. Me. She can't afford to buy something expensive and she never feels satisfied with our selection. But that's all part of my Christmas experience! I look on the humorous side.
So what are some other Christmas experiences?
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I put up 4 trees-family and our son and the grandgirls. I've tried to give the girls' trees and ornaments to their parents but that hasn't worked yet. I think one more year and they can do their own in their room at home. Gifts for someone on an Angel Tree has always been important. The children's program at church is always fun and entertaining. This year, I am anticipating special performances from the grandgirls. The menu is different every year but I always make a chocolate pound cake in a special ribbon pan that was a gift years ago and we have fresh from the oven blueberry muffins first thing in the morning. Oh, Christmas music all day, then it is done til next year.
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If you look very very closely, I HAVE HAIR! It's about as long as a Canadian dollar is thick.
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Christmas for us is mainly a meal at someone's house -- whomever is not working and feels up to it. Most of anyone who joins in is more than willing to make a dish or two to bring along and usually will. We have all been responsible for many holiday meals and know what a chore it can be -- and how delightful it is if someone is willing to do salads, another a special side dish, and someone else the desserts. As much as the holiday it is a chance to get together with some of the family who work so much that we don't see them with any regularity at all, even though we live so close to them.
Sometimes Dh and I will choose something for each other -- but we are more in tune to just getting what we need when we need it. That might be a week before or even after Christmas. So, we finally grew up and stop focusing on the gifts and just learned to appreciate being able to share an afternoon with our big family and then come home tired and happy for it.
Jackie
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Sounds very nice, Jackie. And, Teacher, the individual trees sound special, too.
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Carole - 99.9% of my family has always lived elsewhere so it always meant mailing gifts. No little kids anywhere so I switched a number of years ago to sending each couple a "plant a tree" pewter ornament from the National Wildlife society or Plow & Hearth. You buy the ornament - they plant a tree so the cause is good. And the ornaments are flat & can be sent in a padded envelope which really helps w/mailing costs.
It's been a long time since anyone has been at my house for Christmas. I usually have a restaurant meal with my ex-husband and every 4 years or so I go to my son's in CA. I have tickets for several special performances. As for decorating, I have a Swedish Candle Tree that I put on my buffet & maybe hang a wreath. I went through all my 6 Christmas boxes earlier this year and got it down to one box. I donated most things to the Battered Women's group & will be sending a few ornaments to family members. Sad but I might as well sort the stuff as leave it sitting in the attic.
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I remember when I was little, when my folks were gone, my Brother and I would sneak in the front-room, and look at what presents were ours, and carefully unwrap one or two! Then put them back together again! We had so much fun! And then acting soooo excited on Christmas morning!!!
And yes... The whole family dinner thing! And that meant the women working so hard on that preparation and dinner, and everyone eating, and then the women cleaning everything up for HOURS, and the men getting drunk, and the women mad. Wasn't too much fun then, and still not fun thinking about it.... ha!
OUR Christmas's were the best... Just our family, and the house all decorated, and the girls flying in to open their presents! Christmas carols playing all day!
But then with the girls gone, I just put a few little trees around the house... I LOVE Christmas music, and I'll have Janie over for Brunch... I think I told you this before... But we open our presents, and then just relax....
I remember my Grandmother would set her little special ornaments, and nativity scene in a piece of Styrofoam she found somewhere, and hang lights, and enjoy Christmas Dinner with us.
MINUS! We just took a box to the Battered Women's store yesterday! They have a special place in my heart.... They have this thrift store, where they let women with children in to take what they need, but you can buy stuff there also... They also run a Children's home that use a lot of the donations.
We went there one time, to take a load of gifts for the kids... It was me and the gals from Coors... The kids are all from broken homes.... Sooooooo sad, when you see their little rooms.... But they are taken care of, until one of their Parents is able to care for them again.
Minus, I cleaned out my stuff about 10 years ago! That huge tree, and the ornaments.... Yes it IS sad, but just too much work for me to put up! And most of the family is out of town anyway.
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How will you use the years God gives you? Will you be remembered for being a fault-finder? Or will you be known for your quick smile, the laugh lines around your eyes, and the twinkle deep within? After all, the Lord gives you your face, but you provide the expression.
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I remember as a kid, on Christmas, my parents would always block the view of the gifts with curtains until we finished breakfast. And the neighborhood moms would all get together so one year we would all get bikes, another year skates, another doll carriages etc. I remember the year of the doll carriages. My sister and I didn't get any, but as soon as we walked out of the bldg to go down the street to my grandmothers, the other 4girls were all outside with their new ones. We were so jealous! When we got to our grandma's, our doll carriages were there waiting for us- much nicer ones than any of the friends carriages. Years later, I learned that my parents simply could not afford them and my grandmother offered to get them for us, with the agreement that she could see our faces when we first saw them.
The other thing that stands out about gifts concerns my husband. He loved me, but hated shopping for anything, especially without me. The first Christmas, we had only been married a few months, and I tried to explain that the gift didn't matter- what mattered was that he made the effort to get me something. On Christmas Eve, he went to the local drug store and bought everything in sight, including perfume, which he hated me wearing. Years went by with awful gifts from him, or more often, no gift at all. He would always take me to pick my own gift if I mentioned something I might like. His excuse was he had no idea what I wanted. By the time Nancy was about 13, I had had it with the excuses, so I made him a list of reasonably priced gifts I would like, again stressing that for me it was the surprise that I really wanted. He gave the list to Nancy with money and had a friend of ours take her shopping. I got everything on the list. You live and learn, so after that,my list started with nail polish, and ended with a new car. I put some things I really wanted, like books I wanted to read, but also put in lots of stuff that either was too expensive or that he would have no clue where to get. Both of us were finally happy- he didn't have to think of a gift, and I got surprises ( to a degree). Once Nancy started driving, the lists stopped. He gave her money and she knew what I liked, so I was totally surprised.
Off to get my nails done with my sister and cousin...
Anne
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Husband and I had routine blood work then joined Niece for lunch. Nice long visit.
Fall weather is turning nasty in the North Country. Week before Halloween!
I already ordered *Stones Throw Necklace* from Silpada for jewelry X-mas gift. I've always loved getting a bathrobe, nightgown, and slippers!

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the last two days have been really miserable weather. Lots and lots and lots of rain. Hopefully it'll taper down tomorrow, as I am going to be out and about. Getting a pedicure, hair cut and a massage at three different locations. You'd think I could have lumped 'em up, but it would have cost about three times as much - so it's an out and about spa day for me.
Holidays are pretty laid back for us ever since my Dx. We may have a relative over, but generally it's just us - none of our grandkids are close, so we just send them presents - though this year, those presents may be gift cards so they can buy their own. Hubby likes turkey, so I generally roast one up. This year we are on a very limited diet - no dairy, sugar, grains, or potatoes, so no stuffing, mashed potatoes or pie. However, yams are good, and we eat lots of vegies. I also came up with a pumpkin "custard" using sugar pumpkins, eggs and coconut milk. Once we cut out sugar it's amazing how sweet things without it taste.
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I thought we were getting to a point I could open windows and we are supposed to be in the 90s this weekend. I'm ready for some cooler weather, not brr cold, but it's time to turn off the AC!
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Choose Inner Peace. Nothing is worth losing your inner peace. Take action as circumstances require, but never surrender your inner peace. Stop. Breathe deeply. Close your eyes and breathe deeply again. Then, and only then, take action - from a peaceful heart.
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Teacher, we've had the a/c off and the windows open for a week. Our weather has been 10 on a scale of 1 to 10. I love, love, love low humidity weather.
Was supposed to play golf today but decided not to. Dh is having a liver biopsy. Dropped him off at 8 am at the hospital. Procedure isn't until 10 am but our hospital loves to bring you in and have you WAIT for hours. After the procedure he's supposed to lie on his side for 4 hours. I'll go back about noon and check on him and probably wait with him until he's discharged. Sure am hoping he doesn't have non-alcoholic cirrhosis of the liver, which two of his uncles had.
There was plenty of time to get in my golf game, but I was so busy yesterday that I decided to stay home today and catch up with some things that needed getting done. There's no point in just sitting at the hospital and dh doesn't like anyone hovering over him.
One errand yesterday was going to Sam's and buying a queen mattress set that is on special. It's for our guest room and won't be used much. We also need a new mattress for our bed. The one we have is so old that it's one of those you could turn over. The mattress manufacturers don't make them any more! I guess the new mattress will be a pillow top. That's all the thing now.
Jackie, I've been meaning to tell you how much I've used the Nutribullet to make my morning shakes. Sam's club has one on sale now for about $10 cheaper than I paid for mine.
Hope everyone has a good day.
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Anne -- that was really funny about your Dh and his "problems" choosing some sort of gift for you. Sounds almost as 'clever' ( not ) as mine getting me, of all things a plastic jewelry box. It was a great gift but I'm sure from what I am certain was a totally crestfallen look, he likely realized that it was not the thrill of my life Plastic in those kinds of items is not at all my thing. I set it aside in my closet and continued to use my old beat up one -- and when it had sat there long enough --- it went in the TO Go to Goodwill box.
Not sure but I think very few men bother to learn what REALLY thrills women. Likely because we are all so different. GG -- I am with you. A great pr. of pj's or slippers and I am un-believably happy and content.
GG, I am steadily working on my sugar addictions -- am pretty in charge of most, save for cookies and ice cream. Cooler weather will help with the ice cream -- cookies are a different matter. Dh always keeps them on hand as he takes medicine and wants something in his stomach. This is an art form for him that he perfected some time back -- switching to crackers ( which is what I'd probably do ) is not in the cards for him. Most other things I can usually be somewhat reasonable about.
I do think something is in some of those cookies ( won't name a brand but they have two sides with lots of filling in the middle ) that make it nearly impossible, at least for me, not to desire more. Eating one or two -- yes, I can, but if I'm still in their vicinity, there will be more to follow -- and the feeling of wanting more is really coming directly from the ones I just ate. I'm in touch with myself enough to know that. Just not starting is my key, or only having one or two if I'm ready to leave the house. Still, too often I'm foolish and allow myself to "take" the challenge I almost always lose -- no more than two.
Teacher, our temps will go up slightly which will be nice for our Halloween parade that takes place on Saturday night. In fact, quite nice, but they will start fairly soon after being more on the coolish side. I'll be calling the next three days or so I guess -- Indian Summer for us, but it sounds like a pretty short-lived one. At least those who go to the parade will be a bit more comfy.
Happy Friday all.
Blessings
Jackie
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Carole -- I still love, love, love my Nutribullet. I tend to use up things that I'd likely waste since the last stalk of celery or end of the cucumber or whatever like that tends to end up in the trash. That and so many times I wouldn't get a good amt. of fruit per day if I didn't use it. If my combo's are not great ( though I do have to watch the calories ) and it needs it -- I toss my 'drink' back in and add some honey.
Jackie
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This photo of a barred owl and a jack-o'-lantern was taken from Facebook.

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Hi checking in am ok
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Puffin! You have hair! love the picture.
My husband is a thoughtful gift giver. Once in a great while he gives me something I tuck away to "re-gift", but most of the time he gets it right. Twenty years ago we agreed to NOT buy anything for each other, just for the kids. He cheated and got me a few things but I stuck to the rules and didn't get him anything. It was awful. I felt guilty that he was the only one with nothing. We never did that again.
If there is something I'd like, I tell him now. Or better yet, I buy it, hand it to him and say, "Wrap this up and give it to me for Christmas." He will do the same. Still there has to be a few surprises - usually a book I know he will like, or a T-shirt with a funny saying. (Last year I gave him one that said, "I may be old, but at least I got to see all the COOL bands." He loved it.) I love coming up with perfect gifts for my family. They always enjoy the crazy things I find for their stockings. I keep an eye out all year and stash things away.
Last year on Christmas I was only a couple weeks post op from surgery #3, my toughest to recovery. Mike brought in a small artificial trees for the sideboard in the dining room. That was our only tree and we spread gifts out across the sideboard. He threw a string of lights across the front bushes and that was it for decorations. He cooked a delicious traditional turkey dinner and cleaned up afterwards. What a guy.
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Morning all! Yes Puffin! You are rockin' that hair! Ha! I've heard it
comes back thicker and curly!Good ideas Minus! I brought home a little Palm tree from a little souvenir
shop in Orlando, and it made it, even in my carry-on... I planted it, and it
sits in my kitchen window! I put 2 little painted snail-shells on it... just a
fun reminder of our family and trip.Morning Carole, Jackie and Anne! That was a good saying Jackie....! As
they always are...Anne, what fun memories! I have to do my nails today too.... Do you ever
have them painted blue, green or black? I see black on TV, and they look so
pretty!Hey Teka! So you two have blood work done together? Is that like the
family that draws blood together, STAYS together? Ha! Was this just an annual
thing? You are not sick are you? Our weather has been perfect here lately, but
I know Winter is coming.Almost all of the leaves are down now... just have to finish up some yard
work.Oh LittleGardens... or GG! A "SPA" day! How FUN! Just enjoy it!
Yes Teacher.... I love the changes in seasons... Summertime is always
just so hot, and you begin to look forward to snow!Carole, how is your Husband? Is that a painful procedure? There is
someone in my SIL's family that has Liver problems also.... Only that is called
Carcinoid Syndrome..... which he is controlling....I bought our mattress many years ago.... Right after we got rid of the
Water-bed... But I have a down mattress on top of that... and it is still so
darned comfortable! I turn it all over every once in awhile, and doesn't seem
to be wearing at all... Then when I turn on our electric-blanket before we hop
into bed, it is all warm, and I can fall asleep in minutes.Actually DH sleeps on the Day-bed most of the time, and we both sleep
better... He can hear a gnat sneeze, and I can't hear a truck rolling through
the house, so it just makes it happier for both of us. And he is such a
wake-full sleeper.... Not me... Unless it storms in the bedroom ON me, I
can't hear the weather going on anywhere!Morning LadyBug and Sandra! Sandra, you guys sound like me and DH! I love
to send gift-cards to the rest of the family, and we just always buy each other
fun things all year long... Or special "gifts" that we know the other one
likes.When we first got married, he bought me this "dress"... I guess it was
really pretty, but it was wool, and I had to take Benadryl to wear it, but I
gave it a good shot... Ha!But then I "knit" him a sweater once... That thing was soooooooo big, I
could have wrapped it around him twice! Even all the elastic in the cuffs did
not help! But he wore it.... at least once.... I never knit again. -
The loving energy that I radiate into this world
is a gift beyond my own understanding.
- Jonathan Lockwood Huie -
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Happy Birthday Wren!
So sorry I am so late- been out all day with my older brother looking at foliage and having a late lunch.

Anne
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Wren, HB
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Chevy - be careful w/the black nail polish. I put it on once for the taxotere infusions before I iced on the advice of some other sisters. I took forever to get the black out of the ridges in my nails & the cuticles & under the nails, etc. So in addition to all the other SEs, my nails looked dirty.
Carole - hoping all goes OK with your husband's tests.
Wren - happy B-day.
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Wren....hope you had a wonderful birthday and that you keep on getting younger.
Blessings
Jackie
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Wren, I hope today was wonderful ... have a Happy Year.
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Wren, I hope your birthday was a happy day!
Carole, I hope DH's test is negative. Your weather sounds nice and great for golf. I hope you get out there soon.Holidays are often done to excess in the family. My parents always made a "big" Christmas for us. We do try to meet together but now that the kids have moved so far, it is getting harder. In between my long working hours, I do a lot of ordering online. DH and I wrap the gifts. I shop for all my kids (5) and grandkids (7); plus their spouses or significant others. We save all year for our big (real) tree and shopping. DH is a great gift giver; but he makes it very hard for me to get him anything. I always have a hard time with his gifts.
The past few years my sons have come home for Christmas and we have had fun.
We travel to my DD's (#2) in CT but it is getting to be tough for her to hostess with so many.
Thanksgiving was also at her house but this year I think she will travel.
Last year we went to the Thanksgiving Day Parade in NYC (my first time) and it was great fun. DD was a guest of NBC networks, and we had a fun party in a hotel overlooking the street.DD#1 from DC sometimes makes a trip up to NY. We try to go to Radio City Christmas Show with the kids. It is just getting more difficult with the kids so far.
The girls usually buy a Whole Foods turkey with gravy and stuffing. We all make the sides and desserts.
The plan right now is to go to DD#3 near Boston.At this stage of life, I just try to go with the flow and keep the grandkids happy.
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