August 2014 Surgery
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Angelfaith, Great to hear from you! glad you hear your strength is returning, but sorry you're not "there" yet. Thanksgiving time sounds good!
Ally, Good thing you didn't do that icky prep for nothing! As for the menopause, I guess you're already being careful about getting enough Calcium and Vitamin D (and weight bearing exercise once your body lets you) to keep your bones as healthy as possibile?
Couture, Your getaway sounds luscious! My Italian husband used to love Country music, and we went to a few country bars in our "courting" days in America. I'll admit I had to google what a "solo cup" is, though! Guess that's because I never went to a keg party. I saw some pictures on internet of Acadia National Park just a few months ago-- Looks like a beautiful place!
I guess the biopsies part of the experimental program you talked about? I wish you strength and courage in making and accepting whatever choice you end up going for.
ml, Uff- So now you've got a probable infection, too. I'm glad the fever is down now, and you're catching it and treating it quickly! Are you taking a probiotic (or eating something that contains them) in this period that you're taking the antibiotics? It would be a very good idea (separated from antibiotic by a few hours). Clindamycin can sometimes be a very nasty antibiotic to have to take, although most people are able to handle it OK. I hope it won't give you problems. Seems strange taking about antibiotic side effects when you're about to do Chemo (!), but some people really do get issues with it. Hope this all clears up very quickly and you get back to feeling fine so you can start Chemo soon, going into it strong and feeling fine.
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Ally..im SOO sorry you couldn't have the colonoscopy ! lol...that is the worst from what I hear. But Im glad your doing so well !! Oh btw, I went on you tube to check out the ooph surgery and I came across one that explained the staging and debulking which gave me more anxiety. I also looked up the symptoms of ovarian cancer I HAVE EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM. But right now Im going to try not to worry about that until I have to....
Coutoure..glad you had a such a great weekend..you deserve it
ml..sorry about the infection..one of the hazards of our "occupation", hope it clears up soon.
bobo..good luck today !
Well I went to see the NP at my BS's office yesterday. On my way out of the parking garage I ran into my BS..she asked why I was there, I had a tank top on so I showed her the area that's swollen. She glanced at it and said it was fluid..then I went in to see her NP and SHE said it was the muscle !? So, which is it ??? My ps called me late yesterday and said if doesn't go down by the time I see him on Tuesday then he would order an u/s. Im still left with an uneasy feeling because one says fluid and the other says muscle..there's a big difference. I called my mo yesterday also..I spoke with his nurse and she said maybe pt for the swelling. I lost it..I started crying and told her pt is NOT the answer for everything and that IM NOT DOING IT. I told her Im ready to give up on allll of this bullshit and if I drop dead then I drop dead. She panicked..told me to come in and see the mo. I was upset because with out really knowing what is causing this swelling they are so quick to dismiss it and not order any testing to be sure of what it is. Im not JUST A NUMBER..know what I mean ? Seems like this is never ending ! My pcp told me to take an Ativan and chill out lol. So..we shall see if this swelling is gone by Tuesday.
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Bobo - prayers for you today.
Ganz - prayers for you as well. You are certainly NOT a number and I think sometimes clinicians including physicians lose sight of that. Who knows if they have ever been in our shoes or had a family member in our shoes, but there should be a class of some sort that is lead by cancer patients or survivors, kind of like a day in the life. There could be role playing, explanations of what October really feels like, what it feels like to wait, stuff like that that they don't teach in school.
Mil - how are you doing?
Couture and Allydp - thinking of you both.
Inmeretoo - How are you?
Sunshine - How are you?
Angelfaith - Hang in there. You are almost ready for your exchange surgery.
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I suddenly realize that I have not updated!!
I had my BMX on August 18th 2014. My recovery was amazing. I literally followed every direction, did not lift anything heavier than a dinner plate for 2 weeks, and all of that other good stuff I am certain you all remember. 100grams of protein a day, without fail.
I am pleased to report that I did my first skydive post mastectomy on October 2nd, just 6 weeks and a few days post mastectomy. My physicians are amazed at how quickly I recovered.
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OMG Violetkali, you're the tops!!! That's diving feet first into life!! Are you still in the middle of Chemo??
Ganz, Ganz, Yes, the doctors do owe you a serious control and non-conflicting answers! When do you see the MO?? As for the ovarian cancer worries-- stop. Change that "until" to an unless. You KNOW that all those symptoms are totally non-specific (and yes, that is what makes ovarian cancer so scary-- but YOU are going to have no doubts about that one because your ovaries are going to get checked very soon in the most definitive way possible. ) OK, I'll admit, you're scaring me, too, and I think you've got all the right to be nervous and worried, but don't stress yourself sicker with it. If you really think the gynonc might have been telling you that she suspects you have an ovarian cancer then call her now and ask for clarification. Better to know what she meant than not know and wonder if. (I know-- You're not having a lot of luck communcating with doctors lately, but these are all big worries and you shouldn't be left to just stress and wonder) Did she do a TrV ultrasound that looked at your ovaries? If so, did you get a written report of the results?
I just got back from my first meeting with the Radiation Oncologist! (I got called notifying me of the appointment yesterday-- Typical Italian advance notice!) Did the CAT scan and tattoos and signed consent forms--- Next appointment is in a week to check coordinates. If all is right, they will do my first radiotherapy session right then, same day. Moving forwards feels good.
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Imheretoo...yes she scheduled me for a transvag u/s..this coming Monday night. I was just on the mayo clinic's site looking up recurrence (in relation to the swelling I have from collarbone to armpit)...it screams recurrence..why aren't my docs concerned or just so laxadaisy about it..i mean, two conflicting diag's about what it is ??? I want a freaking u/s of my swelling...thats the only thing that is going to calm me down. I just have a bad feeling about it and they don't seem to care ! I know having had cancer you always worry with every twinge that maybe its back...but this swelling seems a lot obvious to me so for them to just blow it off, is not a good feeling
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Bobo - thinking of you!
Ganz - good for you for demanding some action. In the meantime, what about heading down to the ER? They will definitely do an US and CT scan and you'll be able to hopefully get some peace of mind that it's not a recurrence. I don't suggest that lightly, but you've waited long enough! As far as the ovarian symptoms, I have all of them too. They are really deceiving though since most premenopausal women have them on a monthly or daily basis. If you're having the prophylactic hysterectomy/oophorectomy, they should run a CA-125 on you prior to get a baseline. Mine was 34 while on chemo and just a few weeks ago it was 7. It kind of freaked me out since it was elevated (for me) back on chemo, but I've been assured it was probably due to having a breast tumor at the time. My gyn onc said they only find ovarian cancer in about 2% of the prophylactic surgeries, so really the odds are definitely in our favor. I would be more concerned about getting that swelling looked at. After waiting on the scan for my rib, looking back, I'll never put myself through that again. If my doctors aren't listening to me, I'll find someone who will. My heart goes out to you in that same waiting game and throws of anxiety. Keep us posted! We're all with you!
Couture - thinking of you as you hash out the decision regarding BMX. I'm glad you're getting some counseling sessions in. I'm sure they'll be able to help you sort some things out. I keep saying I'm going to find someone, but haven't had the time yet.
Ml - so very sorry to hear about the infection. Sounds like they're on top of it though and doing everything they can to keep things moving along. I'm sending you prayers for a speedy full recovery so you can start chemo on time.
Imhere - I am sad to say that, no, I haven't been doing a very good job on the diet and exercise lately. What is wrong with me?! Not even my life on the line is enough to get my butt in gear. It's hard with all these surgeries in a row, that's my only excuse. I hope to get back into yoga and pilates after the new year.
Violet - you're a rockstar!
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Hi all! Sorry I haven't been around. I have to have surgery at the end of the month to stabilise my lumbar and the first stage of my freaking out is to withdraw for a bit...I swear I was a cat in a previous life! LOL!
There is a lot to respond to, so I think I'll do that from work. Bad, I know
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Hello sisters,
I'm so sorry I have been Mia lately. I have been feeling wonderful, back to my old self and my two little ones dont let me rest.
I am going back into surgery on Tues to fix my failed left diep flap, I chose the latt dorssi flap (sp?) with implants. I can't wait to have two boobies and a cleavage again. Not looking forward to this recovery, my diep one never really hurt and now that my right flap has healed it looks great. I'm loving the tummy tuck as well. I was back to my old self at a month, so I'm hoping this one will be even easier since I only have two weeks off then hubby goes back to work and I'm all alone with the babies. As much as I love them, I'm not looking forward to that. I still have an 9 month old who needs to be carried. Might have to hire someone to help.
Any takers???? :-)
I haven't had a chance to read up on everyone, looks like that will take days, lol
I love you all my fighters and survivors!
I'll let you know how it goes, hopefully no leeches on this boob, like my last.
Xoxoxoxoxox
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Okay Ganz...deep breath. In. Out. In. Out.
Call your surgeon (or the surgeon's secretary) and ask for an explanation about what she said about the ooph and staging. She might have meant the staging of your breast lump. But why speculate and why make yourself sick? Just tell them you didn't fully understand and are afraid you are misinterpreting.
So you aren't eating or sleeping, you are stressed beyond human endurance and you are losing weight and hair? Go figure!! It doesn't have to be any more sinister than the obvious reason.
(And, take this for what it's worth, but I haven't lost an ounce...if anything I've gained a few...and my hair is its usual big mess. I'm sleepy, but that's because I wake up several times through the night...I'd worry about my kidneys, but I've had a CT scan and they keep checking my renal function because of the Xgeva. It's just stress...with a bit of night sweats thrown in for good measure.)
I'm with you about being a number! I've had two appointments in two different hospitals for two different reasons on the same day and time! I feel like an ambulatory bit of tissue, and not expected to have an opinion or concerns. I may try having a meltdown, too!
I think it would shock them beyond belief, and maybe they would pay attention.
I think Ally's right...go to the ER about the swelling. Oncologists are used to the Big C, but ER doctors take it very seriously and wouldn't let you go without the proper scans.
Take care of yourself! Please let us know.
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[[[[[[[[[[[[[ Milaandra!!! ]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]] Those are protective, non-touching, highly cushioned soft hugs. You stay silent all you want. (or chat all you want about nonsense or fun stuff if you want distraction, or come to discuss and get support for the serious stuff going on if you like). You KNOW that no matter what, you're always on our mind, and that to the extent that we can be (which admittedly isn't much) we're with you in your struggles as friends. We care about you A LOT.
Ally-- Goodness, I said exercise "once your body lets you" !!!!!!! What's "wrong" with you? How about massive (and soon to be multiple!) surgery, chemotherapy and lots and lots of pain and enormous frightening worries? And you've had enough to think about since cancer plopped down on you, without having to fixate on your diet! I just mentioned it because, despite the upcoming surgeries and associated stresses, I really think you soon will be arriving to the light at the end of the tunnel. (Yay!) And you mentioned being concerned about an increase in menopause-associated symptoms after the surgery. The Vitamin D and Calcium are important, though, with an early menopause, particularly with that extra particular bone worry that we all have. (If that should happen, we need, at least, to start out with a healthy skeleton) That's why often our docs keep track of our bone health, and prescribe supplements if necessary. I was in (natural) total menopause by age 42, (which compared to yours isn't early at all, but my docs now are telling me that that was "premature"), and I really didn't pay attention at all to Vitamin D and not a lot to calcium intake. Turns out that my vitamin D levels are pretty near to zero. (I've got my first bone density exam to do in February-- we'll see... and we'll see what extra damage these AI drugs are going to do to me once they take away my last remaining estrogen dribble. You, at least will still have that dribble, even though they're taking out your ovaries-- (unless the chemo you did affected also your adrenals and metabolism (??) ) Vitamin D comes from the sun, and technically 20 minutes a day of unprotected exposure of face and arms should do it if you live at a lattitude where the sun gets high in the sky all year round--- but I doubt that in the sunny southern state of Michigan (ha!) you'll get much vitamin D from sun during those long winters. (I lived in Detroit for a year--- Brrrr!!!!!!!)
Hey-- I'm NOT suggesting to you to take a high (the typical) dose Calcium supplement (unless your docs specifically order it) If you overdo on Calcium supplements and your blood Ca++ levels go up, that will only confuse the picture and give you a big bone mets scare for nothing! (not to mention being dangerous). And you really don't want to get even a normal dose of calcium dumped into your system all at once-- that actually can put you more at risk of heart disease. (and without estrogen, we need to worry about that, too, even if normally we wouldn't be be heart disease types) But making sure that you do get the required amount of Calcium daily, preferably through diet, or otherwise through very low dosage supplements spread out through day, and also, one way or another, getting sufficient Vitamin D, can be important for those that spend a long time in menopause (And you're going to have a very long healthy life from now on, so best not to let some crumbly bones ruin it!) But think about that stuff when you can deal with it-- Now you've got another surgery to prepare for!!
Ganz Here's hoping you get some tranquilizing results Monday evening. As for the very disconcerting collar bone area bump, Why are docs always so darn precious with something as simple and inexpensive as an ultrasound?! I mean maybe (but just maybe, and while this is really what I'm strongly hoping to hear, the docs should demonstrate it, and explain it, not just think it!!) maybe what both the BS and the NP meant is that for them (both of them) the swelling is due to a collection of fluid under the muscle, causing the muscle to push out. And that the positioning of the fluid makes it absolutely clear (to them, but again, if that's the case they should explain why) that it is fluid due to inflammation, not lymph, and maybe they should check to make sure that the fluid doesn't have anything funny about it that would indicate infection. And since we need to have this all spelled out clearly, they should explain and show why they're sure that the inflammatory fluid, (if if that's what it is), is a reaction to surgery and not a reaction to something sinister that might be growing up in that area. I mean they're doctors, we go to them for answers, not "reasurance"! Remember Quiltlibrarian's wonderful surgeon that she went to when she found a "bump" near her underarm? That doc really felt that it was nothing serious when she saw her, but because she knew that these things need to be demonstrated (if for nothing else than for OUR peace of mind!) she sent her immediately to the ultrasound doc, who checked it out carefully, told her that the bump was muscle, (in Quilty's case just normal muscle she wasn't used to seeing without a breast next to it) but did find a bit of fluid collected under the muscle too, causing some of the swelling, and took that out with a needle. All of that didn't take the docs very long, and Quilty came home very relieved and knowing exactly what was up. Why can't all the docs be like that?!?! And I think that if that's what your lump does turn out to be, your BS should also show and explain to you clearly what enlarged supraclavicular and infraclavicular lymph nodes feel like and exactly where they would be located, so that you know how to differentiate that. And they should also explain to you what a reoccurrence in the pectoral muscle would feel like, and how that is (if it is) totally different from the swelling you feel and see.
I really hope that when you go to see the MO (did the nurse give you an appointment (right away)? ) or perhaps to ER docs as the others are suggesting to you, that that doc acts more like a doc should!!!!!! We're all thinking and concerned about you and wanting it to turn out to be something simple!!!!!
Lipglossmommie -- Wonderful to read you say that you are feeling wonderful!!!!!!!!! Wow, another flap! THIS ONE WILL WORK!!!!!!! AND NO LEACHES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That surgery is coming up soon-- Wishing you an easy succesful surgery and fast recovery!!!!!!!!!!!
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Couture - I've been to Portland! What a lovely little town for a weekend away.
Jules - as much as I appreciate the offer, I won't make you go through that.
I tried to take my own photos and I couldn't get the contrast right...with the flash it didn't look red at all, without the flash it looked too red. I've decided just to get my nurse to take a look the next time I'm getting my shot. (same hospital)
Mandy - I don't think you'll get much use out of your chemo bag. When my mother went through chemo I used to go with her, and it's a surprisingly upbeat and social atmosphere.
Bobo, I can match your doctor's story! When I came back to work after the appointment with the surgeon (finding out that yes, it's highly recommended I get the surgery) and I'm telling my boss and another coworker comes up and asks what is wrong. After finding out, she responds with this cheery story..."think of it this way. My husband's friend was complaining about a sore back, went into the hospital and three days later he was dead." ?!?!?!?!?!?!
Wow...I just got a call asking if I could come in for an MRI in two hours...I just don't think I can do that...
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Two hours! Are you dropping everything and running fast or can they give you another appointment? These Europeans and their sense of advance notice!
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The surgeon did warn me they might give me a call for a last-minute appointment, I just thought I'd have a little more notice. I couldn't manage this one. See, the original MRI was booked for the day AFTER my surgery, which obviously is a bit late :-D So he told them to come up with something sooner...they took it a bit too literally...
The NHS (UK health care system) needs people who just coordinate all this stuff...so they don't expect you in two places at the same time, or for pre-surgery tests after the surgery, or expect you to undergo radiation when you're still in the hospital recovering from surgery! Oncological coordination...I wonder how much they would pay?
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Too funny that a few of you suggested going to the er to get a definitve answer/explanation about this swelling because I was just talking with coutoure housewife and I said the same thing to her ! I think Im going to do that either tonight or in the morning. This is night 3 with very little to no sleep over this.
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Hope you get some answers!!! Keep us informed!
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I've got a date! No, he hasn't proposed yet! Hehe. I spoke with DFCI today and got the date for my next step- 20 ( yeah twenty!) biopsies. Ten in each breast to look for more atypical cells. Nov 7th! Soon! I'm glad that the next step is happening. If they come back positive- which in all likelyhood they will- I'll feel like that's a pro for the BMX column. Plus, if they do come back positive, then I get to try the experimental drug trial. Also a plus. That buys me a year- if I don't choose the BMX.
Best case scenario- they come back negative and I get to " go on with my life" and try to actually believe that they got it all. Mamma and MRIs and close check ups. More time to try and have a baby.
Thinking of you all and hoping you get not only sleep at night, but comfort as well.
Xoxo
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Couture: 20 biopsies?!!? You had better be holding that day. Call you PCP and get a prescription for Xanax or Ativan. In my (considerable) experience with biopsies, they don't give you anything other than lidocaine.
Hoping so much for a 'boring' result and then a nice fat baby!
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Just a quick post. All went well today for chemo #1. Everyone there was really nice. No hiccups. Now I'm at home resting with the family. Went ahead and took a Zofran just in case. Other than feeling maybe queasy and like I need to take a nap, I am good. Going for my neulasta shot tomorrow afternoon. Next chemo is on 11/7, I think.
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Keep us posted Ganz!
Mil - hope you can get a better date for the MRI.
Bobo - how did surgery go? Or am I mistaken on the date?
Ml - great to hear your first chemo went well! Good call on taking the Zofran. I did the same thing until about half way through. I got up the courage to not take it since I never had any nausea and I was fine without it. Take it easy and drink lots of water!
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Good job Mandy! You are doing so great.
Thanks for asking, Ally. Right now I have fever of 101.3! They say elevated temp normal, but not above 101. Do NOT want infection! Looking forward to hearing about your results, whenever you can have your procedure.. XXX
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Bobo! - Been thinking about you and your surgery and recovery! Great to hear from you!-- wasn't sure when you'd feel up to checking in. But that fever does not sound nice. It's STRESS, not infection. NO INFECTION NO INFECTION NO INFECTION NO INFECTION.... (I'm making that true with my words -- come on words, work!!! Another infection would just be tooooooo unfair!)
Couture, The possibility to get a sampling of what's going on all over both of your breasts certainly does sound like a good thing to help you with your decision making. Will it be Fine Needle Biopsies or Core Needle Biopsies?
But I've got a couple of questions about that clinical trial that occurred to me only now (that I sure hope I won't increase your anxieties by asking!)
Once enrolled in the trial (and getting all those free biopsies) , will you still have the choice of choosing he BMX-- or will they expect that you remain as a subject with two breasts unless a cancer appears, so they can, over the next many years, test the effectiveness of their experimental drug to prevent cancer occurrence? (I mean - I'm sure they can't prevent you from choosing a BMX, but might they make you pay them back for the biopsies, no insurance coverage if you drop out of the study??)
Or does the study only look at a time course of one year-- and then maybe do new biopsies at the end of that year? -- So at maximum it would be putting off your BMX decision for a year-- (that would explain why you say that participating in the study would buy you a year)
Do all people in the trial get the drug or is it a double blind study where you might get the drug or might get a placebo and won't know which one it is?
I guess you asked whether it's safe to get pregnant while on that drug? And if not safe, what the wash-out period is between stopping drug and starting to try to get pregnant? Or are you not really thinking that your mommyhood life would progress that quickly anyway, so you're OK with waiting the duration of the clinical trial period (plus whatever washout period they might suggest), in the case that pregnancy is out for that period?
Will they tell you the results of your pre-drug biopsies before the study is over? (or does all the patient identity info stay coded until study is over??---or maybe never gets uncoded?)
Only asking you these things because in your situation they'd be things I'd want to know before commiting myself to a clinical trial. But you've probably already had those questions answered!
Mandy ml Yay for one chemo down and feeling relatively OK! So--- I guess since you did the chemo the redness around your port is under control and (hopefully) you didn't go into that session feeling crappy like you did the days before? Hope it all continues smoothly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Bobo - prayers for no infection.
Couture - lots of decisions for you to make. Praying you make the one that is best for you. Imheretoo had some great questions to ask.
I had some nausea issues late last night until early morning along with acid reflux. Decided to take Compazine and Zofran as prescribed until at least until tomorrow. I really wanted to go Pink a Pumpkin today, but my husband and daughter said they would do it for me. Aren't they great!? I have my Neulasta shot at 2:20 and that will probably be the extent of my getting out today. Just need to take it easy. I have work on Monday and want to be able to go and get as many hours in as possible. I have blood work on Friday of this week and next week and then the final week will be another chemo treatment.
I hope you all have a wonderful Fall weekend.
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Hey ml! You can get a Neulasta shot on Saturdays!? That is fancy.
Poor baby about nausea issues. I have been taking Zofran too. But then I got a headache, and right there on bottle it said, 'May cause headache.' Mother F!
OMG, I just realized something. You live in VA, and DLLP and I are talking about going to VA to get Federal married! It's not that far from us! We need to make sure DLLP has the Federal rights and benefits should anything happen.
You have totally empty stomach? Could you manage a cracker? XXX
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I reply to myself. Imheretoo, I love when you make those incantations! I am hoping it's stress too. X
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I am behind, obviously, because I have been on drugs. Lipgloss mommy, I am 'in the bag' for Tuesday. I am going to be right there with you! And you look really pretty in your avatar picture! XXX
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Bobo - So sorry you are having issues to. I have all of you girls on my prayer list. Yes - my MO's office is open from noon - 3:00 on Saturday's which is really nice. I have been snacking on oyster crackers and ginger ale. Every time I drink water, I get heartburn. My MO said as long as I was getting 48 ozs of fluids a day that he was okay with whatever. His nurse said popsicles count. lol Small world. I live in Virginia Beach. Frederick is probably 3 - 4 hours away which isn't bad. Federal benefits are really good. Living in this area, we know several people on them. That will help you tremendously.
Lipgloss - I am in the bag for you too on Tuesday!
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BOBO'S GETTING MARRIED! BOBO'S GETTING MARRIED! BOBO'S GETTING MARRIED! (Couture is jealous...)
Yes, Bobo, I do realize that you are doing this to make sure that the legal situation is squared away for a very serious reason, and nothing is really going to change in your life, but it's still nice
)))))))))
Sorry that both Bobo and Mandy are feeling sick due to their treatments now.
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Couture, you will be EXTRA jealous when you hear that DLLP and I have been married at least four times! We have to get the ceremony in whatever state we are in!
But now I feel that's coming to an end.
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Yes, I am currently in the middle of Chemo. I had my first chemo Sept 15th, second was october 6th, and my next one is October 27th. I am having Carbo/Taxotere/Herceptin.
I have good days and bad days..I take each day as it comes, and if I feel great I run with it. If I feel horrible, I go with it too. I allow myself to be lazy when I need to be.
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