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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited October 2014

    Hey Patty, I so sympathize with you! Hospitals are no place to be sick. Did they come up with a DX (so they find a cure)? Hope you're both feeling better.

    Chevy your home is so charming!

    Cami, missed you, glad you're back. Joey with a GF? He's growing up quickly. Glad you're home so they can't get into mischief (wink, wink)

    Mags, you are such a strong woman. 

    Blondie, hope you're feeling better really soon. 

    Susan, always happy to see you! 

    Spookiesmom, glad that 2 year anniversary is behind you. 

    Tang, you got me thinking about my cancer journey. October is a bad month for me, 1st mx was 18 years on the 24th, 2nd 2 years ago on Halloween. Am I glad I ever got cancer? Not crazy, that would be a definite no! But I look at other health issues of those in my family, DM's Alzheimer's is heart-breaking, so many times when she's lucid she talks about how she knows she's going crazy, must be awful to lose cognitive abilities. We also have alcoholism, now that's a constant struggle. Not just daily, but constantly being aware and having to fight the demons. After my first mx (no recon then), used to be grateful I could hide my "amputation" from the world, many others aren't that lucky. But, I have gained from this disease: that I AM stronger than I think I am, I am resilient, I don't take life for granted like I did and most of all, the greatest blessing is that I've added so many friends because of this disease. 

    Today, I got to take it easy. Never got out of pj's. Made easy meals and of course, there was clean up, but it was a recliner, TV and nap kind of day. Haven't had this kind of peaceful day in almost 2 weeks. I got to spend one of the best days I've had in many months with one of the sweetest angels on this earth with her sweet DH, just enjoying companionship and beautiful scenery at the beach. Will be a memory I will cherish always. Turns out it was the calm before the storm. 

    Blessings, Smaarty, Jwoo, Sassy, Wren, Mommyof2, RoseV, you're in my thoughts too

    Gentle hugs and sweet dreams to all!

  • Chevyboy
    Chevyboy Member Posts: 10,786
    edited October 2014

    Morning gals!  I give up!  I tried to "write" and compose, and then paste it here, but somewhere along the line I LOST it ..... TWICE!  So I'll just write here, and tell you all I am thinking about y'all, and hope you have a great Saturday!  xoxoxo

  • Spookiesmom
    Spookiesmom Member Posts: 9,568
    edited October 2014

    Uh, chevy, it's Sunday! You trying some of that wacky weed?

  • camillegal
    camillegal Member Posts: 16,882
    edited October 2014

    Good Morning ladies.

    Patty I'm sorry about u'r ds What is he being treated for.

    And u'r mom falling ( I can't remember who) she is so sweet cuz she didn't want u tto know--I'm glad she's all right.

    Tang and Rose both soups sound yummy--I'm really starting to like soups now.

    2nd I hope this month is u'r lucky month.

    Blondie u know u have to be causous with things u do, so if u have to go out make sure u'r layered and stay warm;

    Oh My DD hardly everyleaves them alone hahaha and Yes I do all the splaining' she feels he's way to young, I don't feel tht way so we have out talks.

    I know we ll agree about how adorable Chevy's house but let's face it, doesn't it look like that witch in the forest who lures little kids in? Oh tell it like it is. And no one has written since Saturday. cuz she told us to have a good Saturday, well I'm going to try to have a good Sunday.

    Hey Susan.

    OK I'll sign ff for now/ I'm on I'm on a sleep schedule--I wake up for a couple of hrs, sleep a couple of hrs and so on and so on--Til my meds get straightened out I hope that does the trick.

  • M0mmyof3
    M0mmyof3 Member Posts: 9,696
    edited October 2014

    Just relaxing for a bit before I get busy. Didn't get my cold weather wardrobe down yesterday. That is the goal for today!

  • camillegal
    camillegal Member Posts: 16,882
    edited October 2014

    Go MOMMY-I'm u'r cheerleader

  • M0mmyof3
    M0mmyof3 Member Posts: 9,696
    edited October 2014

    Was cold enough here this morning to make me run up to the attic to pull a few things down in case I don't get to it today. But I am going to try.

  • Chevyboy
    Chevyboy Member Posts: 10,786
    edited October 2014

    Oh MAN!  I hope the rest of the day is going to be better!  It's Saturday, right?  Well maybe not!  

    I DON'T live in the Forest, and I DON'T lure little kids in.... they have to be at least 18.... that's the law!   So Cammi, you must talk to little Joeywiththegirlfriend, because you KNOW what trouble these little kids can get into....  She is probably a tramp anyway, so it's too late.

    You and I have "been there, done that".... so we KNOW what evil lurks in the hearts of men.....  I heard that somewhere...   You must caution him, as he gets older....  You know what is so funny?  My SIL had two sons.... and she told them, it is NOT up to them to protect themselves from becoming little Daddy's!  That is is up to the girl, so therefore they could do all they wanted, and it would not be their fault!   And they would not be responsible!  

    I just wanted to run her over with the car.... what a moron!  Well, they grew up irreGARDLESS of her, and are sweet little guys, with their own boys!   So Joey is now in your hands little Cammi....  We leave it all up to you.

    Oh wait!  You are doing tricks again?  I just KNEW it.... Can't leave you alone for a minute!  What is our Joey going to THINK!   

    We will have to send him to classes ...  Planned Parenthood....  That's what WE had to do in school!  No, wait.... that was where my DD#1 got her pills.... We took "Health" class.... which explained things okay.... we could have taught the teacher some things!

    So Cammi.... it's all on your shoulders.... who other than KatyKat to teach this kid the rights from wrongs?  It's in your hands babe!

  • Chevyboy
    Chevyboy Member Posts: 10,786
    edited October 2014
  • Holeinone
    Holeinone Member Posts: 2,478
    edited October 2014

    Chevster, too much Starbucks? You are jumping green like on my IPAD. 

    Smaarty, cute dress, looking forward to your updates on the cruise. I have got to travel a fair amount, but never on a cruise. Never been to the Carribean. 

    PattyPepper, sounds like you had a miserable week. I hope your boy is getting stronger. Sometimes those teachers need to cut back on all that busy work, kids bounce back pretty quick, but still needs time to heal.

    Susan, exciting to plan a new bedroom. We have fresh paint & new carpet in one room. I have been painting storage closets, shelving. Looks fantastic, all of it. 

    Mommyof2, I have never heard of winter & summer curtains. Sounds like too much work....lol...we have no curtains, just blinds. They are a pain also, they get dusty. Wish I could hose them off! 

    Fall colors are amazing. I golfed yesterday, in the canyon. Today, old man winter is blowing through. Oy, not a fan of winter. I just cannot stay warm. I get acclimated around Feb. Hoping/planning on going south. For a week or 2. Now we are getting the house ready to sell. It's a enormous undertaking. We have been here 24 years, large house, too much junk. But my junk is "good stuff", DH junk needs to be trashed....right ? 

  • Spookiesmom
    Spookiesmom Member Posts: 9,568
    edited October 2014

    Well of course his stuff is junk! You can't use it!

    Where in the south are you hopeing to thaw out? Winters here are great, and DRY!

  • susan3
    susan3 Member Posts: 3,728
    edited October 2014

    patty, hope your son is doing much better today. Prayers and hugs your way. Hope you all get some rest today.

    The last Monday of this month hubby and I are going to galena to stay in a civil war cabin . We did it 5 years ago and had a blast. It is located on a horse and cow farm. We said we were going to go back every year . Can't believe it has been 5 yrs and we didn't go back. Time passes to quickly if we aren't paying attention. We kayaked the Mississippi and rode mountain bikes on that trip. To cold to kayak this time, so we will do a lot of hiking. Can't wait !!!!!!

    Have a great SUNDAY everyone....I capitalized it for Chevy !!

  • M0mmyof3
    M0mmyof3 Member Posts: 9,696
    edited October 2014

    Love having two different sets of curtains. The lightweight ones are for spring/summer and the heavier ones are my fall/winter ones. I made a most of them, but a couple were store bought and modified for the proper fit

  • Chevyboy
    Chevyboy Member Posts: 10,786
    edited October 2014

    We have blinds also.... but the verticle ones, which I ordered on-line!  One is fabric on one side, a pale blue, to match the walls, but plastic on the inside.... they are like "black-out" blinds.  Good for Summer AND Winter.  The other's are a pale blue like plastic....  I just spot clean them....  Also have sheers OVER them, to stay closed all day and night.   Those get washed once in awhile.    So now if we have air-raids they can't find our house!

    MOMMY!  Okay, how's that?  Ha!  I know some gals used to use Caps all the time.... I don't MIND them, but the bold is a little hard to get used toI 

    I  spent at least an HOUR today, on the phone AND on the computer, to Apple, trying to get my iTunes installed again!  I mean it was a real PITA!  But we did it!  I had SOMEHOW  lost my whole library!  About 1000 songs!  It was there a few months ago, and then it was GONE!  I tried and tried, but finally called Apple, and this kid that I could understand, helped me do it!  

    They are all my favorite songs!  Geez!

    Spookie!  Husbands never get rid of anything....   The only way that happens is if we do it for them, and then don't say anything!  Like the 20 pairs of jeans and pants he had stuffed in his closet!  I took out the ones in the back, and left him about 10 pair.... He never would have noticed, except I told him they are NOW in the basement!  Hah!   He might forget them anyway.....  

    I organized all of my clothes....  Now I know where everything is..... again!  Then next Spring I have to change out a few things.

    Okay gals.... hope your Sunday has been good to you!

  • Holeinone
    Holeinone Member Posts: 2,478
    edited October 2014

    Spookie, we have gone to Indio, Ca. for spring break, for years. It's on the outside of Palm Desert & Palm Springs...

    A good friend of ours has a house there, his parents second home. Parents are deceased, but he & sis kept it. We sometimes stay with him, sometimes rent a house in his golf course community. I am not picky about the housing, neither is DH. He is unsure about how long he wants to go for. We will see. Also, it's only a 12 hour drive from here....

  • Spookiesmom
    Spookiesmom Member Posts: 9,568
    edited October 2014

    Didn't think you meant Fl, was wishing!

    YEA  CHEVY figured out what day it is!  Gotta watch her Ya know.  Cammie isn't around much to keep her in line.

  • Chevyboy
    Chevyboy Member Posts: 10,786
    edited October 2014

    I don't know WHERE Cammi is!  She was like this as a kid....could never keep track of her...

    Spookie, I just want to tell you and Sassy how special it was meeting you two for lunch that day.... It's like we were always friends!  Old school chums, meeting after years of talking....  I'll treasure it always...  

    We talked like we had known each other since we were kids!  How special is that?  Our lunch was the highlight of my trip.... Thank you for meeting me there!  And I love you.

  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 19,603
    edited October 2014

    Owlettes, Hi, Sunday night. DBF is off trying to fix his car AGAIN. Poor guy, just can't accept that he doesn't know everything. .... He did the screen enclosure. My final plan wasn't what I first envisioned, but still very happy with the outcome. Had to consider cost as the trellis was 32$ a sheet.  Family target visit date is Oct 25th. It'll be interesting to see what projects get done before they come.

    Mags so happy you have a wonderful relationship with your son. YAY. How's is adoptive Mom? Have you had contact with them?

    Mommy, Hope your Mom is good. I hate falls they can mess with so much!.

    Chevy your place looks like a doll house. Glad we can't see all the new stuff around you. Dislike when architecture isn't  kept reasonably congruent (sorry can't think of a better word).   Chevy, what hell you went through, head breaking. Cut the guys balls off.

    Cami, OMD, sorry the guy died. Maybe if the church hadn't done a number on us it may have been different. Sounds like you were the love of his life. Sorry he's gone. Could have been one of those late in life rematches.

    Spookie, working on stuff. Reading and listening, vociferously about Ebola stuff. Pissed off they are saying some of the things they are saying. The stats on the numbers of healthcare workers dying in Africa. OUTRAGEOUS. 

    BBL

  • blondiex46
    blondiex46 Member Posts: 5,712
    edited October 2014

    Patty hope son is doing better

    Didn't  go anywhere  today, still not feeling  well, taking z pac tho

  • Spookiesmom
    Spookiesmom Member Posts: 9,568
    edited October 2014

    Awwww chevy, it was fun! Wish we could DO lunch more often.  You can always come back, leave DH at home if he doesn't want to come.  April is darn near perfect weather wise.  Just sayin'.

  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 19,603
    edited October 2014


    Rose, yes, all plans can fail when not followed. So many unknowns about Texas Health Resourses. They have been caught in so many lies the first week with Duncan, now no one will believe them.

    A ways back I said I was very happy about not being a nurse right now. There are only two places in the country prepared. Emory and Nebraska. Their Bio-containment units are so far superior to what is available elsewhere. it's not just the units --it's the training. it's the difference between a Lexus and an Escort

    On CNN,  they showed a hospital going through a drill. The PPE Personal protective equipment wasn't even close to the CDC recommendation. Duh. I sat there in disbelief.

    I'll link an article that tabulates healthcare workers deaths in Africa. Not good. Of course they are different than here. But eventually healthcare workers are going to catch on to the risk. I'm so pissed that all the big wigs are laying problems off on the Dallas Nurse and Teresa Nursing assistant in Spain for not following protocol. Chit.

    One on the centers in Africa that the USA is building is for healthcare workers. Which will avoid taking them off the continent.

    The commonality of survival is ---early recognition, receiving a plasma transfusion having antibodies from a survivor which kick starts the immune response, and one of the experimental vaccines. My opinion.

    The positive outcome of this is that infection control training and understanding of the transmission of disease has been sorely lacking for a very long time. If someone believes that statement isn't true. Wrong. Medicare has come down on hospitals very strongly in the last few years. If an infection is traced to a hospital, they don't get paid for an entire admission. Plus, the hospital is not allowed to bill the patient.  Money regretfully, has been a driving force for hospitals to improve. Hospitals have been attempting to beef up controls. This is a horrific way for naysayers--hospital managers to allow proper training to occur, but it will improve all care in the USA.

    And just maybe another  STUPID government offical won't decide to kill the dog.

     Excalibur will go down in history.

    I predict that the  existing Spanish Government will fail because of the way Teresa Rameros and Excalibur have been treated. The Spanish people are pissed. Seriously pissed. There are many dynamics in the fray, Teresa and Excalibur are now the fuse for the populace. So, when the government falls, don't think it was just because of the two. Much more will have caused it.

    Hmmm well, anyone for tea?

  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 19,603
    edited October 2014
  • Rosevalley
    Rosevalley Member Posts: 3,061
    edited October 2014

    I agree with what you have said. I just remember being suited up for work with TB patients and jeez it's so hot and claustrophobic in all the gear. The mask steamed up my glasses... Crazy hard to work in all that PPE. Methodically taking it all off so you don't contaminate yourself is tough. Then add to the misery the heat of West Africa and the lack of AC in the buildings. Miserable. Resistant TB is every dang bit as terrifying and deadly as Ebola... just kills you slower. Some of the strains they can't offer any treatment.  I mean I have stage 4 cancer and HIV looks better than that. Can't believe I said that, but you can live longer. People's perceptions are often goofy and based on hearsay. Fear is irrational.

    I have worked in hospitals for years and while they do much good and save many, my mantra is get in and out as fast as you can. There are so many bugs and things to catch it isn't funny. My Dad ended up with MRSA  & VRE and particularly nasty strains and even had some experimental drug with just numbers from the CDC. He got that somewhere between the local hospital and the VA.. pitiful. Complicated everything. Life has risks and there is no way to be completely safe in everything. Not possible. Human error will always be there. As some one pointed out just seasonal flu kills more folks world wide every year than ebola. 

    The only way anything will improve is by being completely transparent about any and all mistakes so they can be avoided the next time. There will be a learning curve with treating Ebola. Covering up mistakes up is deadly stupid. Better to learn from them. Our culture doesn't appreciate learning from mistakes and penalizes folks/medical facilities when mistakes occur. It will be most interesting to see how things play out. It was insane to have killed the dog. They should have learned from it and kept it in isolation. Another lost opportunity to learn about this disease based on fear not science. I worry about the troops sent to help because they don't have the back ground to protect themselves. I hope they are training and drilling them. I will say when they write a book about this out break it will be a stellar read - rival Dan Brown's novels.

    Good night owlettes.

  • Pawprint
    Pawprint Member Posts: 464
    edited October 2014

    Sleep well Owlettes...

  • Chevyboy
    Chevyboy Member Posts: 10,786
    edited October 2014

    Okay it's official.   I am now an insomniac.  Last night was just up, and down.... and dreaming in between times!  I dreamed of the craziest scenario's you could ever imagine!  Glad I'm awake and drinking coffee, and complaining to you guys.

    And I'm worried about Theresa....  Her DIL answered my email, and sort of let her hair down...and she is frustrated, because of running out of things to help her feel better.  I don't think she can be "fixed"..... and she is thinking that too...  

    It's all that has happened to her this past year....  Trying so hard to take care of their house, AND Eddie, and then him having to go to Assisted Living, and then her stress over that and the up and down BP, dizziness, and just being afraid.  Then SHE moved to the same place, and her eyes.....she is almost blind.  That Macular Degeneration  is just not slowing doen...  Her Son and DIL and I have tried to get her "new" glasses, like Binoculars that are supposed to help, but they don't....  Now this NEW type, she saw on TV....  Her DIL ordered them, but we don't think they will be any different than the last 2 pair...  

    When we go, I love to see her, and I sit on the floor in front of her recliner, and talk to her, and just want to make her laugh...  She jokes, and says "I feel so bad sometimes, I must be dead!"  And I tell her.... "No, I think you have to get better before you can die" and she laughs.....   She doesn't move around hardly at all....  And she doesn't want to go down for her meals now....  It's like I'm trying to help her, just like her DIL is...!    

    All I can do is be there for her.... and call her, and just listen.    I don't think there is one cause, that is taking her down like this...  She is 92, and things are just going hay-wire.  But what else can you do?  She has to just hang in there...  and we have to just listen, and help when we can, I guess.

    Last night, she called, and I said "Well thank God you ain't dead yet!" And she just laughed.!    That's all I can do....  just listen, and make her laugh.

  • M0mmyof3
    M0mmyof3 Member Posts: 9,696
    edited October 2014

    Wow, I slept til almost 7 this morning! Its rare when I get to do that!

  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 19,603
    edited October 2014


    Chevy, sorry, you and Theresa are in such pain, You have been such a good friend to her.

    Rose, I agree, the media is hyping to healthcare workers being ill in Texas and Spain. Negating info on all the others. Troublesome. Slanted reporting. Supposedly, our soldiers are setting up treatment facilities. They aren't suppose to be involved with patients. So, hope nothing happens.

    The repatriation of Ill HC workers, while humane is shortsighted overall. May sound farfetched, but I believe they should have a bio-containment center on an island someplace that is equivalent to Emory and Nebraska. All facets could be contained. Meets the need to take care of he ill HC workers. Yet limited literally by the surrounding waters. And a separate place on the island that each person has to go through a 21 day quarantine before disembarking.  A tiered movement system.

    Sorry about your Dad. Awful. Sounds like he survived?

  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 19,603
    edited October 2014


    Morning Paws and Mommy

    Everyone have a good week :)

  • M0mmyof3
    M0mmyof3 Member Posts: 9,696
    edited October 2014

    Mornin' sas!

    Gonna have a good one!

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