DIEP 2014
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Sounds like all the ladies who have had recent surgeries are doing well. My dmx with DIEP was performed almost 4 months ago, but I had gallbladder surgery on October 3rd. I now have MANY scars !
I am not sure how I feel about these permanent badges yet....?
I have been looking into BC groups...I think I was ready before gallbladder attacks and surgery. I am still in pain and I am so tired. Did I say sooooo tired. I am sleeping 15 hrs per day, and I have to force myself out of bed.
I am running on empty.
Any advice or thoughts are greatly appreciated.
Lisa
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LiLi - I expect your body needs the sleep to recover. Fatigue was what really surprised me after diep surgery. Having said that, have you considered whether you are eating enough protein, and always a good thing to check in with your doctor as well.
Take good care,
Ridley
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Ridley: I think you are right about diet....I really could not eat in September, and now my appetite is zero. Thank you for the advice! Now that you are almost 9 months out, when did your energy return? Lisa
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LiLi - I took 12 weeks off after diep, and by the time I went back to work full time, I was feeling pretty good. I just had revision surgery on Oct 8th, and was only under for an hour, and I still feel a bit tired today.
Your body has gone through a lot. If I'm reading your bio correctly, it looks like you have had 5 surgeries in the last 17 months. Any chance you can fit a nap in this afternoon?
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Hello all,This is my 1st post to this website. I am 35 years old, recently diagnosed with Stage 0 DCIS on the Right and Stage 1 invasive on the left. I had my initial mammogram during a workup for a breast reduction, never expecting to find cancer. I have the option of having lumpectomies followed by a breast reduction with 6 weeks of rads and 5 years of tamoxifen. I could also have a bilateral mastectomy with immediate implants or DIEP flap recon, no rads and tamoxifen. I am leaning towards the DIEP, since I want the piece of mind that comes with the mastectomy and I don't like the idea of implants or rads. I would welcome any input you ladies may have. Thanks in advance. God Bless.
Erica
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Ridley:
Yes. My body has actually been through more surgeries .... I think the number is 12 since 2008. All female parts gone. I have joked that I am an organ donor per my license...but there are limited organs to donate....so act fast! LOL
Welcome Erica! As you can see below, my first choice was April 2013. I had IDC with mixed Lobular. I was in such shock at the diagnosis that I relied on the recommendation of my MO. Breast conservation. I had a lumpectomy on right breast followed by radiation and tamoxifen. At my 1st annual Mano in April 2014, lobular cancer was detected in left breast. This time I listened to my heart, and choose DMX with DIEP.
You must make the choice. Read. Ask questions.
I could not even conceive a DMX in 2013.
For me, the thought of more radiation and testing and waiting was no longer an option for me in 2014.
I did a lot of research and read a lot of posts. Everyone is here to support each other.
Any questions, ask.
Good luck with your decision!
Lisa
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edukes, sorry about your diagnosis. It's true, you need to do what feels right for you. Do lots of research. I was diagnosed with DCIS in December of 2009 and had a recurrence in November of 2013. The first time I had a lumpectomy and radiation. If there was any way to know I would have a recurrence, I would have just done the mastectomy so I wouldn't have to have radiation. It caused problems with my DIEP. The surgeon never threw that out as an option though. It's not the standard treatment for DCIS. I wish I would have gotten an opinion from a breast surgeon back then, not just taken the advice of a general surgeon. When I was diagnosed the second time, that same general surgeon sent my to the breast surgeon and the care was so much better.
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Erica, I chose DIEP to avoid radiation and because I knew my body would hate implants. My husband thought the implant route seemed easier, but it was my decision to make. You know yourself best, so while its good to get opinions, in the end you'll do whats right for you.
Tommorrow will be 2 weeks since my stage 1 surgery. While I admit I spent the first 48 hours regretting my decision, its not so bad now. 3/4 drains were removed on Friday and that has made a world of difference, without those annoying things I now feel like I can work at recovering. I can roll onto my side to sleep now! I was able to dress (no sweat pants or pj's!) and drive to church today. (Backing up is nearly impossible, can't turn to look behind me yet.)This weekend I was able to cook, wash dishes and even clean up around the house a little. Getting back into my routine is making me feel so much better.
Regarding body image, my post diep body is going to be way better than the pre-diep body, so while I'm a little Frankenstienish now, I'm looking forward to the final results.
Hope everyone is having a great weekend and easy recovery.
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Deb (lovecat3), hope your flight back to California was uneventful and comfortable. It was so good to talk with you on Wednesday and be cheered by your happiness with the results of your DIEP.
We had easy flights to San Antonio yesterday, checked out the route to the hospital after church this morning, and just need to get my hospital bag ready with knitting and tablet, eat a good dinner, shower and get to the hospital two hours before surgery tomorrow.
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edukes1102-I was told I could do lumpectomy, rads, and meds for 10 years. It would have meant reconstruction anyway because half my right breast would have been gone. Then my cardiologist nixed rads and tamoxifen due to heart issues. I'd been told left side was very dense and would have to be watched carefully. I researched DIEP and stated my choice. The bmx, DIEP, and stage 2 were challenge enough for my heart (literally) so I don't regret my choice. It is a very personal decision. You will make the one that is right for you.
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edukes
I did not have the choice for lumpectomy since my dcis was in multiple quadrants and I would have been left with nothing. I think I took like 3 months to make a decision and in the end chose diep for the more natural look and feel. I can't say there weren't days I thought implants might have been easier.. But I also know that implants aren't always easy on the body and have routine maintenance/replacement. In the end. Diep was the right choice for me... Even though it was not available where I live and had to go far to get it done.
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Wow, thank you all so much for your input. This is all so overwhelming. I am fortunate that I live in the Boston area and it seems like the PS that was assigned to my team is one of the best qualified in the area. He has been doing this surgery for about 7 years. I should have a better understanding of the pros and cons all of my options this week. I want to make the right decision for the long term and I just feel like the lumpectomy/reduction route is more like a bandaid. Are there any specific questions or concerns any of you would raise having been through it? Thank you so much!!
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so good to hear from you! Flight home great did use wheelchair in airport easier to preboard flew home with 1 drain
I'm happy to know our conversation helped to ease your concerns. Another person on this site went to PRMA and told me all you have to do is " show up". She was 100% right!! I am so elated with my new breast and with every passing day (16 now since surg) even more grateful maybe in part because I had a concave grizzle chest in constant pain for 4 years I truly can't begin to express my gratitude towards everyone at PRMA the Hosp the Hotel. It is scarey to leave home
Enjoy tonight eat well celebrate when you wake from surgery tomorrow you will have a beautiful breast that is all you Remember you've been thru the worst part 3 years ago
I will be thinking of you praying for you sending you healing thoughts
Please say hello to the PRMA people for me message or call anytime
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hi Erica I'm 16 days out from my DIEP honestly I couldn't be happier. I'm 57 avid walker traveled for my surg my BFF flew in to meet me and take care of me
I had a private room she stayed w me all 5 nights the nursing care was incredible compassionate on top of everything
Honestly it wasn't anywhere as bad as I feared maybe I was lucky I wish I would have known about the DIEP surgery ( I was led to believe that I could not have reconstruction) I would have done it much sooner!
I also had a lymphnode transfer
Best of luck to you
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Lisa - my goodness - 12 surgeries in 6 years - no wonder you are tuckered out!
edukes - I had the same types of cancer as you - invasive on the left and DCIS on the right. I had a lumpectomy first, and then when my path came back more complicated than expected, a mastectomy was recommended. I decided to have a bilat with recon, and have no regrets. Just had a revision last week to deal with a symmetry issue and some scar revisions.
As for questions, do you know if you are having nipple sparing? I could have had that on the DCIS side, but decided not to for symmetry reasons. That is one decision that I might have spent more time thinking about in retrospect. Also, do you know if you are having sentinel node biopsies on both sides. I ended up doing that, but you might see what options your surgeon provides.
Good luck,
Ridley
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A friend is having her surgery tomorrow and she wondered if she's normal because she hadn't slept well for the past few nights. Oh, yes. It's easy (now) to share experiences, realizing each of us is different, but still have much in common. For those with surgery this week, I'm toasting your courage with a warm scone and cup of tea.
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It's Thanksgiving up here in Canada - so Happy Thanksgiving everyone! I'm getting my nipples tomorrow and I'm more nervous than I was for my DIEP. I was very confident about that one because I knew I was making the right choice and I was willing to cosmetically accept any outcome. But now I really need to know that the nips will be an improvement and not something ugly. Someone said their initial nipples were the size of 'the cap on a tube of toothpaste'. I can't get that visual out of my head. Even at turkey dinner last night I was trying to be present, but all I could think about was those little caps under my bra.
Don't mean to sound whiney - I know there are people with much more intense issues - but it feels good to get if off my chest. (Ha!)
edukes - I also had bilateral breast cancer and was offered a mastectomy with recon or rads. Tomoxifen either way. My first instinct was to go with DIEP - just do it right and do it once. But over the next few months I really wrestled with making a final decision because I was scared, and I didn't want such a major disruption in my life. And I mean I really struggled - even going as far as seeing the hospital shrink to help me get some clarity in my chaotic head. In the end I based it on what I didn't want. I didn't want any foreign substances in my body, I didn't want rads, and I didn't want a recurrence. So I chose DEIP. My first instinct was the right one, and the right choice for me and one that I would make again. But it really comes down to where you feel most physically and mentally comfortable. But what you're doing now is good - gathering information will only make the decision more clear.
Janet
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And I will second that toast. Good Luck to you all...and Happiest Healings !!
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edukes...I absolutely agree with Janet. I kept second guessing my decision, and I think because the implants just sounded so much easier. But then I asked myself what would be better in the long run. So I am now going the with the Diep and just making that decision final in my head feels so much better.
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Janet - good luck tomorrow. I haven't been through the nipple recon yet, so have no experience there, but I think I will do it, so that when I'm getting into the shower, etc, there will be an appearance of normalcy. I know upclose, I will always be reminded, but I think with enough steam on mirrors, I might forget.
Dr. H was his typical sweet self last week. So thankful he is my surgeon. Enjoy your time with him tomorrow.
And Happy Canadian Thanksgiving! We had our turkey dinner yesterday with all of the trimmings - homemade cranberry sauce, stuffing, and apple crisp. Can't wait for leftovers today!
Ridley
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Janet, thinking of you today. It will all go well, and I know you will be happy. Please let us know how you are as soon as you are able.
We had a huge storm last night that woke me up around 2 am. At 4am I took a bendryl to get back to sleep. I am a zombie today.
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lovecat3,
You mentioned that you had the lymph node transfer at the same time, was the procedure longer? Has it changed the lymphedema in your arm? I saw my breast surgeon on Friday and she suggested that I do it as well. I'm just concerned about additional pain, etc. My lymphedema is not bad, you can notice a slight difference in the fingers and upper arm. I rarely use my compression sleeve.
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Happy Thanksgiving to all the other Canadians! Today is my chill today at home with just the kids as we did dinner with my family on Saturday and the extended family yesterday. Lots of food, family and fun!
I feel bad for not posting as much now. I posted so much leading up to surgery in June and through recovery this summer. But the further I seem to get from surgery, I just seem to get busy with other things, and also I think you reach a point where you don't want to think about b/c all the time! I am back to work for 2 months now, kids are back in school, activities, so life is busy!
I am still waiting to have nipple reconstruction done. LIke I mentioned in my last post, it is not until September 2015 which is a bit of a bummer, but it's OHIP covered and non-emergency, so usually you wait. Between my diagnosis and surgery was 6 weeks, so I can't really complain! I just want frankenboobs to be gone. I am curious how he will do it, as he says it is an office procedure. And then the tattoing (I think!).
So, part of my thanks this weekend, is for ALL the help, support and information here. No matter how much support I received in real life, most truly did not get it. It was wonderful to come to a place where I could obsessively talk about it, obsess about options, and get answers to all my questions!
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Hi Girls ~ Just checking in after a weekend away. It sounds like everyone is fairing well right now with only a few bumps in the road but glad to hear you are all doing well.
kb33 ~ Thanks for your thoughts. I have struggled with this issue quite a bit. I've been single for many, many years and dating was never scary or hard, I could flirt with the best of them. But now I don't even consider any of that, I've also noted that several of my single guy friends that I flirted with prior to BC treat me different. I know that it's mostly because they don't know what to say or how to act but they sort of ignore me or I feel like they say something "token" and then move on. In the scope of things a minor issue really but BC certainly takes a toll on single-hood...sigh. I am holding on to the thought that after my DIEP is complete and the scars have healed I'll jump back into that arena but for now I'm content.
Have a Happy Week y'all. Here's to good days and great healing.
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hi Lonnie no additional pain but may take up to 6 months to notice a change. My PS said you need to know which nodes to transfer or you could end up with lymphadema in your leg! Lymphnode transfer seems to be the " in " thing and he commented you can't just go in take some nodes and transfer them hope for the best (My surgeon has a lot of experience )
My lymphadema has never been terrible I did have a flare up earlier this year which required PT n wrapping for 4 weeks
My thought if this helps at all totally worth it :-)
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Janet, I hope you are done with your nipple recon and all went well. Did you choose the skin grafting (you don't have to answer that if its too personal!). If I end up with the DIEP w/out nipple sparing, I think I am going the tattoo route. I am kind of taking the same approach as you did insofar as basing my decision on what I don't want. If I can avoid rads, that's what I want to do. I also hate the idea of implants (no judgment to anyone who chose them). I discovered this cancer during a baseline mammogram prior to a breast reduction, if you can imagine!Happy Thanksgiving to all of you Canadians! Good thoughts and wishes to everyone!
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edukes - The nipple recon is actually tomorrow. I've gone into full heavy duty housecleaning mode which is what I traditionally due the day before a surgery.
I'm not doing fat grafting - but I don't know what my procedure is called. I've heard it referred to as 'sort of like origami'. They take the tissue from within the breast to create the nipple. My PS said it will also reduce the size of the crop circle (our word, not his) because it pulls tissue from inside. All a bit weird and wonderful.
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Janet - nipple reconstruction did reduce the crop circles, which made me happy. It's been 9 weeks and my nipples are a more reasonable size. They will be big but get better every week.
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UGH! I am a little over 4 weeks post bmx and diep and my abdominal insisions have been widening over the past couple of weeks, it is not open where it requires packing, but yellow and looks like its pulling apart (not red and has no ordor, so I don't think has to do with infection). Has anyone else had this happen, does it lead to splitting where it needs to be packed, I would love to hear of anyone who had this where it didn't go that far and just healed up. Been having a rough day and am ready to start moving forward. I return to work next week and would like to be more confident in the abdomial healing.
They don't do this prosedue in my area so my ps is out of state which makes it a little tougher to follow up, I took some photos and will be sending them to her for feedback as well.
On a positive note, I have no regrets on the diep decision and the breast swelling has gone down and I am happy with the results.
Thank you for any feedback you can provide.
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Surgery went well today, resting comfortably.
to answer the question about extra time for the lymph node transfer, I was quoted 4-6 hours for the sugery; came in at under 5 with the lymph node transfer.
Expect to write more tomorrow.
Beth
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