October 2014 Surgery Sisters
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Hi All, I'm new too and have my surgery is on Oct 20 for a double mastectomy. I have 4 tumors in my left breast ...IDCS. All are stage 1.
Am planning on having direct implants but the PS is going to wait 10 days after the cancer surgery to put them in. He wants to make sure I don't need radiation and also check the viability of my skin. Also concerned that the weight of the implant could cause the scar to break open. He says the incision will not be healed and he will go in through the same incision under by breast.
Oct 20 is sure coming on fast. Have so much to get done beforehand. My husband and I had a month planned at the beach starting Oct 23 so we'll be going back and forth and I sure hope I don't need radiation!
Good luck to everyone who is having surgery (or already had their surgery this month).
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Setback. After a good day yesterday where i got my hair washed at salon, took a short walk to the bank, and eased off opiods by 50%, plus a not horrible night's sleep, this morning I got up and took my morning meds with coffee and 15 minutes later puked my brains out. I haven't thrown up in a decade at least, possibly 2, I have an iron stomach. But I am not used to taking any medication, certainly not all I just tried to down: Vitamin C, Zinc, abx, opiod and ant inflammatory, plus colace.
I can't wait to get past this phase, get off opiods and drains out. I don't know why i didn't get sick before, must have spaced them out or taken after food. my head is not clear. Anyway, now i don't know if I should retake or sit for a few hours and see what happens. Pain seems better today.
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Hi October gals,
I am 2.5 months post surgery and wanted to give some encouragement and
advice to all of you who recently had surgery or are facing it. I hope that something I say in here will help you as you go through your experience and make things a little easier for you.- Recovery takes time – After my surgery, I
expected to be up and about and back to normalcy within days because I am an
energetic, fit person. But what I found out is that surgery is really hard on
the body and it just takes time to heal.Expect that the first few weeks will be hard.The drains are a pain, your arm movement and
strength will be limited, and you’ll likely be very uncomfortable.That’s okay.You will get through it.It may
seem like it is taking forever but have patience because you will get back to
normal. - Celebrate the small improvements – It’s easy to
focus on all you cannot do, but try to celebrate the small improvements each
week – getting off pain meds, getting your drains out, being able to put a cup
in the microwave, opening a car door, putting on a bra or a non-button front
shirt…These may take you many weeks to master but you will get to the point
where you can do these things again.Patience is a virtue during the healing process and it’s not always easy
to have, but get through the first month and you will find yourself in a much
better place. - Accept help – This is not always an easy thing
to do.I had a friend tell me before
surgery that she would plan meals for me and I thought to myself that I didn’t
need them.Well, I cannot tell you how
much the three weeks of meals helped out.My mother stayed with me for those first few weeks and was my arms and
hands for most of it.It was
really hard asking and accepting help but do it. It not only helps you but it gives those who
care about you an opportunity to get involved and feel like they are making a
difference (which they are). - Expect to be unhappy at times – This was the
hardest thing for me.I am an
optimistic, upbeat person, so when I was feeling blue about all the things I
couldn’t do and just wanting my old life back, it upset me more because I wasn’t
used to the feelings and couldn’t control them.It’s okay and perfectly normal to feel down after finding out you have
cancer and going through treatment.Your
body has gone through a tough journey so it’s natural that your mood will be
affected.Try not to worry about
it.Accept it as part of the healing
process that you will get through.Believe
me, the feelings will pass as your body heals. - Read about the experiences of other – This cancer
site was so helpful to me, especially because I could read about others’
experiences and realize that I was not alone.I cannot tell you how happy it made me to hear one person say that she
was four weeks out and vacuuming her house.At that point I was two weeks out and feeling badly that I couldn’t even
put on a shirt over my head, let along push a vacuum.It gave me encouragement that in just a
couple of weeks I could be in a very different place. And sure enough, in a
couple more weeks I was in a different place (and back to vacuuming!).
The bottom line – healing takes time, be patient as you heal
physically and mentally, accept help, reach out to others, and know you that
you will come out the other side and get back to a sense of normalcy
again.And know that there are a lot of people,
whether they directly know you or not, who are here for you and rooting for you
to get better.Peace!
- Recovery takes time – After my surgery, I
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Hello, everybody! I just wanted to give y'all an update on my surgery. I had my bilateral mastectomy on Thursday. I also had a sentinel node biopsy on both sides. Good news: My lymph nodes are clear!!! So no axillary nodes were removed! I was discharged last night around 6 and I'm home relaxing now. So much easier to rest now - at the hospital, my incisions were being checked every hour so I was hardly able to get any rest. I'm very sore but I'm not in as much pain as I was expecting. Also, I have more use of my arms than I expected, too. Thanks for all the support and well wishes! Good luck to those waiting and happy recovery to those who have already gone!
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Hello, all. My surgery is scheduled for October 16. I'm a mess this morning.
They only discovered my cancer four weeks ago, and three weeks ago learned that it was metastatic. No chemo, no breast surgery for me; they want to take my ovaries instead. I only started taking Tamoxifen on October 3rd. Not even enough time to see if it does anything.
I will meet my anesthesiologist on Monday to discuss the surgery, and my MO on Wednesday. I feel panicky and so alone and I want to cancel everything.
I've been brave up to now, but not this morning.
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NineTwelve, so sorry you find yourself here, but you are not alone! And you don't have to be brave all the time. Sometimes we feel we need to put on that brave face for our loved ones, but you don't need to do that here. Many, many hugs to you.
BrittPro, glad you're home and yay! for clear nodes. Big sigh of relief.
Fourminor, did you have some food in your stomach when you took all that? Zinc is especially hard on the stomach (speaking as a pharmacist!). Even my DH, who has a titanium stomach, has problems with zinc on an empty stomach.
Oceansky, welcome. I am interested to hear how your surgeries turn out. I haven't heard of that approach before, but I can understand the benefits of waiting in your case.
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NineTwelve,
How overwhelming. You went from minding your own business to stage 4 cancer in a week's time. That's a hell of a lot to process. If you're feeling alone and panicked, honestly, how else could you feel? All I can tell you from the road I've taken so far, is it sometimes helps to focus on one thing at a time, focus on your next step and try to stay with that and leave the things that are out of your control alone as best you can until you have more information and can deal with them.
I really find the community here to be a good support system as well because no one knows how it feels to walk this road like those who have walked it, even though every journey is unique. However unfortunate, this is a growing community.
Hugs
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All i had in my stomach was a cup of coffee. I do not like opiods either because they also can nauseate me but for this beast they seem to be helpful. I should have waited until breakfast but I was doing the mental calculations of "If i start now when is the last dose going to be?" and thought it would be better to take them so I would be fully dosed before I fall asleep.
I will not make that mistake again.
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Togetherness,
After each of my surgeries, my instructions were to come to the ER if my temp went above 100.5. At 101.5 there is no way you can afford to wait until Monday. GO NOW. As I found out the hard way, just because you are on antibiotics doesn't mean it's the right antibiotic. IV antibiotics are more effective so maybe that's all it will take with you. However it took 3 different kinds of IV antibiotics over 3 days to find one that would even begin to fight the infection I had. With your history, don't wait. GO NOW.
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Togetherness, I am so sorry! I hope you feel better soon and will keep you in my prayers.
BrittPro, glad to hear you are resting comfortably at home. Great news on the clear node!
Fourminor, hope you feel better soon. I have experienced the same thIng for the last two mornings. I don't know why mine just started all the sudden. Hope it stops just as suddenly!
Hi NineTwelve, I am so sorry you received the news you did. I completely agree with the advice Fourminor gave you. I will keep you in my prayers. (((((Hugs))))))
Welcome OceanSky. Sorry you have to be here, but, glad you found us.
I went to the MO and it looks like hormone therapy for me. I will know what kind after the blood work comes back. Not sure where I am in the menopause continuum. I also got 2 of the drains out. The other 2 come out on Tuesday. I am still really sore and have trouble sleeping. Hopefully that will get better after I see the RO and understand what I am facing with respect to radiation.
Hope everyone that has has their surgery so far is resting comfortably. Will keep you all in my prayers along with all that are up next week.
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NineTwelve, I'm sorry for your news. I'll be thinking of you and wishing you well on your surgery.
My surgery is a week from Monday and I see my PS for the last time on Tuesday and the Cancer Surgeon on Wednesday.
I'm trying to compile a list of questions for each. Can anyone share good questions to ask? My PS is kind of a famous guy, well known to WhippetMom and lots of people on BC.org. I feel awkward telling him what size implants to put in. Am not sure how I'd approach that. Any thoughts? I'm still going to send pics to WhippetMom and get her feedback though.
Am not sure what gummy bears are btw...
Wishing all the October ladies well, and if anyone wants to share good questions...Please do!
Best..
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Read the Breast Implant Sizing 101 header to find out what all the different kinds of implants are.
There are several threads that address questions you should ask your doctors. Look on the All Topics tab.
No matter what a patient wants, a PS can't always do it due to unforeseen circumstances like inadequate flaps left by the breast surgeon after the mastectomy. It is your body, however, and you should have a pretty good idea of what you are going to get. Lots of PS take more than one size implant into the OR, put one in, sit you up to see how it looks, try another size, and then take a vote. Often your OR nurse will be the one who actually makes the final decision if there's no medical reason to go with one over the other. It will be what she likes.
No matter how famous, the PS works for YOU. It's your body, your money, and you're the one who has to live with it so shouldn't you have some say in the matter?
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Su and Sandra - Thanks both for the support and the suggestion to get a hold of the list. I am really terribly upset and torn up about this situation - the surgeon left a pretty pissy message on our home answering machine that really exacerbated the situation and made me feel as though she'd never gotten past the 'mean girls' stage of junior high school. I so do NOT need this at this point.
To make matters worse, although my husband was there, and fuming at the way she was treating me, he did not say a WORD because some book had told him not to interfere between his wife and her doctor. So he sat there totally mute, patting my back and not even considering what I might need or what might be helpful.
I cannot understand why he (an educated, articulate man) would go unhesitatingly along with some book rather than going by what I have told him for YEARS, which is that I need for him to visibly and audibly support me and speak up for me once in a while. We had issues for years with my in-laws and for him to speak up would have saved a lot of very real grief - not just stress, but grief.
At this point I feel as though I am completely on my own and I'm almost past caring.
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Men, no matter how good they can be in other areas, can be totally intimidated in medical situations. They have much less experience with doctors than women. Sometimes mine won't shut up when he accompanies me to an appointment and other times he is stone faced. You are probably so angry at the situation that you need to blame somebody and feel helpless to do so. You've just begun this journey. You will need your husband. Calmly explain to him how he could have supported you better. Does he know enough to even question something a doctor says? If he feels out of his league, he'll stay quiet. Does he need more education? Can you report this doctor to her supervisors? Or to the medical society? Terrible situation, but try not to alienate your primary support person, even though he has disappointed you.
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That's good advice, Sandra. NO he's not intimidated by the medical community - he's got family who are MDs doing research in a variety of fields, as do I. He's just relying on something he read in one of the books on how to support your wife through breast cancer. Of course, he chooses to simply act on the advice rather than asking ME what I think of it or whether it's on target for us. And, as I said, he's taken this tack before and knows that it leaves me feeling stranded. There's very little about him that I would change but this I would.
I don't know if I can report the BS to her superiors, since she's the director of the center. I have to think about who else it might be appropriate to speak with. Thank you for suggesting that, Sandra, as well as for your support and advice.
At this point I sort of feel as though these BSs are so busy/egotistical that they really don't care about their patients. If they blow somebody off, oh well - there's plenty more to keep them busy.
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Hopeful, I'm so very sorry to hear about your experience. Your situation sounds worse than mine was, but no, you are not alone in not being heard by your BS. It was a difficult decision for me to make, having had very good care from the practice for 9 years, but in the end I had to go with my gut feeling and have switched to someone who not only heard my concerns. As a friend told me while I was making myself feel guilty about wanting a second opinion, this is all difficult enough without also having negative energy between you and your doctor. You also don't need that negative energy with you in the OR or during recovery. Take the best care of yourself as you possibly can, and that includes working it out with your husband. Is there someone you can talk--a therapist or counselor, even a minister--who might help with the communication issue?
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Welcome aboard, NineTwelve, OceanSky, ForHisGlory, and Su-CQ51. We all wish the circumstances were different, but I'm glad you found us.
And Su-CQ, hello again--I'm in the Sept. group, too, as I had hoped for a Sept. date.For those of you who've checked in after surgery, thank you for sharing your progress! We need to hear your good stories as well as your not-so-good stories, so do keep us posted. And listen to sandra4611, who's been through it all: be gentle with your recovery and don't try to be superheroes!
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Wow finally feel human again! I think my temp broke while I was sleeping. Was determined if I woke up with a temp was heading to the ER. Took my antibiotics, pain meds and slept for along time. Feel so much better. Will just have to keep an eye on the temp and see if it goes up again. Able to eat some soup and drink a protein shake. I was hoping for a little more smooth sailing with all this, but will do what I have to do. Thanks Sandra you give such awesome advise. Can I hire you? Just come live with me for the next five months..... Lol
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Glad to hear you're feeling so much better, Togetherness. DO take it very easy! Thanks for updating, too.
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Dear Lilith -
I really appreciate hearing your experience and viewpoint. Sometimes I start to feel like it's just me and that's a very dark experience to have, particularly on top of the dx.
I wish I did have someone I could talk with about that communication issue. Right off, I can't think of anyone and don't even know who I would ask for a referral at this point. I used to know many people in the therapy community due to the work I did but those I knew and liked have retired or relocated. This is such a longstanding issue, one we've discussed over and over again, that I do think it's going to take someone else's help to overcome it.
Thanks so much for being here.
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Although I've not been diagnosed with Melanoma in addition to BC as some have, just a few days ago I received notification that I do have Skin Cancer of the Basal Cell type. Once I got the certified letter, I called and told them I can't wait for the review appt which is the day before the Exchange. So they told me which type it is.
When do we get a break? I'm thankful for the lesser type but c'mon isn't it enough. Aside from my two Sisters, additionally out of 25+ cousins, I've not heard of any of them with Cancer. Lucky me. But hey, it can always be worse!
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Post op day 4--Feel like I've passed the worst now. Slept better, pain is easing off, taking less pain meds, bowels working fine, drain output started to drop. I've got an appt on Thursday with plastics so maybe the drains will be out and I can shower again, get off antibiotics and stop worrying about how to hide drains from my 3 year old.
The mastectomy bra helps because I have not been naked from the waist up staring in the mirror at myself. My view of my scar shows a small mound as PS told me he would put some saline in during surgery, but I'm not looking from side to side yet, which is a good thing. Small steps, one at a time.
Was looking at mastectomy tattoos last night. Not sure what I'll do but they looked beautiful.
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Hi all! Being discharged today. Bilateral mastectomy, right side prophylactic with bi-lateral DIEP reconstruction. I get my camisole and diep binder today but all in all, I feel sore but okay. For me the anxiety of an 8 hr surgery was overwhelming so as I sit here with a good prognosis and ready to go home, all else feels like it's uphill from here.
The drains are annoying at best and I believe they will be out on Thursday or Friday this week. I have 3 kids under 6 so I am fairly sure that managing them will be my biggest hurdle.
I haven't really taken a good frontal look at my sutures yet but I hear they look good! Pain killers help but I like to move away from those as I can. I get to have a follow up tweaking in about 10 weeks to balance out the breasts if needed and to add in nipples. Tattooing will be the next step. I've seen pics of the tattoos from my docs book of before/after and I'm optimistic about the final result.
Just feeling blessed overall.
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Hi everyone! I need more practice so I guess I should post more often I think since I tried three times last night and it froze on me lol. I think it's from using the backspace to correct typos? I was also scrolling up to post to make sure I didn't miss anyone.
Thanks Sandra ! I keep thinking about your pic of the chick hatching amongst the "beasts". It sums up how I feel about my latest diagnosis! Then I saw your latest pic and felt better
. Hope you are healing well and feeling much better!
Hi Lillith! Thanks for adding my name and info to the list! Hoping you have clear nodes and a speedy recovery. My BS assured me my Mx recovery would be similar to Lx. I guess we'll see if she's right!
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I had posted a link to a pillow I ordered online, and I now realize I should have edited the post instead of deleting it entirely.
Anyway, the pillow arrived on Friday and it's going back ASAP. The stupid thing has hardly any stuffing at all and certainly won't offer any support! I'm going to let the company know that their photos are misleading--the model cannot possibly be putting any weight against the pillow, because if she did, the pillow would disappear.
So, I'm off in a bit to buy something--anything--from either Bed Bath and Beyond, or perhaps one of those "husband pillows" from WalMart. -
Osfan, welcome, and best of luck with your recovery. DIEP is quite the surgery! And at 8 hours it sounds like you've done well--I've read about 10 or 12 hours for that procedure.
I'm curious about your nodes (hooray on all of them being clear!). As one side was prophylactic, did you have any taken from that side? I have to decide pretty soon whether to allow my surgeon to do SNB on either or both sides, as both of mine are prophylactic, and yet two surgeons and an oncologist have told me it's "standard procedure". I know the risks and have posed this question here before but it doesn't hurt to get another perspective. Thanks.
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Good morning everyone! Akitagirl, you got some great advice I see, I hope things are settled or on their way to being settled!! You ARE in control.
Sandra, have I missed the pity party? I can contribute at least 2 lbs of high quality dark chocolate and a bottle or two of whatever you prefer, and a large box of kleenex!
Fourminor and Ridley - glad you are both doing well! Fourminor - Clean Nodes YEAH!!
Pain management is so tough. Mine has been quite awful this week. I had a diep, so have 3 incisions to deal with - the hip to hip one is so painful, especially on the "ends" where the drains hang out, and what DID they do to my belly button? I have to keep putting antibiotic ointment on it and gauze does not WANT to stick to a vertical surface no matter how much ointment is there to keep it in place!
Tomorrow is my follow-up appointment, please think good thoughts for me!!
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Lilith - I have been using this wedge pillow this week, and it's working out great: http://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B009HHLBKK/ref...
Good luck and hope you find what you need!
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Lilith and Laurie 2025 that is the pillow I have been using and it really helps me with sleeping. I got it at bed bath and beyond. I also have three other pillows. One for my back and two for my arms. My DH teases and say I see I have the divider up...... Lol. Absolutely. I don't have a recliner so this is the next best thing. Hope you find comfort.
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