February 2014 Starting Chemo Club

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  • Jules_NY
    Jules_NY Member Posts: 276
    edited October 2014

    Love, hugs, thoughts and prayers heading your way!!!!!

  • tangandchris
    tangandchris Member Posts: 1,855
    edited October 2014


    3doglady ((hugs)) Let us know how you are doing :)

    I have a question about supplements and such after chemo. Are any of ya'll taking any special vitamins PFC specific to helping our bodies heal after all of this crap being inside us? I've been thinking more and more about what I need/should do to take care of myself and realized that one of the easiest ways may be taking vitamins. Just looking for insight or seeing what other's are doing.

    Thanks!

  • lago
    lago Member Posts: 17,186
    edited October 2014

    tangandchris although I do take a multivitamin, D, Calcium, biotin and a few other things it really is best to get your vitamins from food. Even my rhuematologist that treating my osteoporosis cut my calcium supplement down to only 600. She feels it's best to get it from food. The suppliment companies are making a fortune on stuff we just pee out.

    Add more veggies to your diet especially green leafy ones. Should be about 1/2 your plate (and I'm not talking about potato or corn). But we all know the number 1 thing is exercise every day for at least 30 minutes.

  • tangandchris
    tangandchris Member Posts: 1,855
    edited October 2014


    I've been getting 30-40 minutes 5 days a week walking dd to school in the morning. I was thinking earlier that we need to do salad, so you kind of reinforced that for me. Probably the biggest struggle I have with food is eating at night. I always get the munchies around 9p and snack on crap. I have almonds and cheese sticks, better than chips right? :) I'm taking baby steps.

  • lago
    lago Member Posts: 17,186
    edited October 2014

    Yes better than chips but both high in calorie. Cheese is such a dense food. I found if it's a somewhat firm cheese use a cheese slicer. It will seem like you are eating more than you really are.

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    I tend to snack on popcorn. I take loose popcorn and cover the bottom of a paper lunch bag. Fold the top a few times and tape it shut then put in microwave for about 2 minutes or till it stops popping. No salt, no butter, no nothing. Works for me.

  • lgoldie
    lgoldie Member Posts: 120
    edited October 2014


    Lago, We talked on the phone once.  I finished chemo in June and Rads in August.  I am supposed to go back to work day after tomorrow.  I am having problems with really bad nausea and now diarrhea since Tuesday when I got a flu shot and started a Hep B series for work.  I am assuming (so is my GP and the Occupational Health Nurse) that the side effects of the two immunizations magnified due to being a bit immunocomprimised   The nausea was so bad this am I had to take a Zofran!   I hardly took any during chemo.   Why does everything have to be so hard?  I have been so excited to go back to work and now I have no idea how I will feel Monday morning.  and every pain, headache, bump is CANCER.  Will I ever get past that fear?  Triple negative just adds to the fear.  Everybody is complaining about Arimidex, Tamoxifer....hey, it could be worse.

  • lago
    lago Member Posts: 17,186
    edited October 2014

    lgoldie we all have our issues. Remember a triple negative remaining NED for 3 years has a much better chance of staying NED than any hormone positive. Hormone positive can recur 25 years later! So there is a bright side to triple negative. 

    Your immune system had been challenged and it's going to take some time before it gets strong again. I rarely get sick but after chemo I got a bad case of shingles. Then another strange rash 3 months later. Then 3 months later the worst cold I ever had. I was coughing so badly and for weeks I was starting to worry about lung mets. (Expectorant finally cleared it up). All that and I didn't have rads just a year of herceptin instead. You just have to give your body time. 

    You will get back to work. Remember no one's last words have ever been "I wish I worked one more day." Now go heal and keep up with that zofran. You will be back before you know it.

    And if you want to call me go ahead. Just don't do it at some weird time in the middle of the night. Tomorrow I will be in and out. It's the Chicago Marathon and one of our ladies from the Illinois ladies thread is running again this year. I need to be out there with my sign to cheer her on as well as Imerman's Angels team.

  • jbokland
    jbokland Member Posts: 890
    edited October 2014

    just  a check in!  I am now about 7 weeks post rad and on Tamoxifen.  Mild hot flashes.  General muscle fatigue that comes and goes. My feet are the most bothersome. I believe I have plantars fascititis ( new) but it's pretty debilitating when it's bad.  Maybe it's something that was exasperated by the chemo?  I will discuss my self-diagnosis and theory with MO on Wednesday.   Overall, I am doing great and try not to dwell on the last 9 months.  TEs are bring refilled and preparing for final surgery at end of year.  Apparently, lat flap is now the standard. 

  • lago
    lago Member Posts: 17,186
    edited October 2014

    jbokland your body has been through a lot. Remember it takes a bit of time for your body to get its resistance back. You may catch colds a bit more easily, etc. I got shingles 4 months PFC (and I didn't have rads or adriamycin). I had just turned 50 a few months before. Bit young to get shingles.

  • Rosiesride
    Rosiesride Member Posts: 513
    edited October 2014

    hey jbokland!  I am also getting back to a higher energy level and endurance!  Teaching kindergarten kicks anyone's butt those first few months so my nap regimen is in place at 4:00!  Now I find I just rest, don't sleep and am good to go...slight discomfort left in balls of feet and fingers but legs are finally working better!  Walks help a lot!  I am also putting these past 9 months behind me and seizing each day with joy and laughter!  Truly see things differently now and feel so happy....not dwelling on diagnosis...I am sure that may come and go, but today is a really good day!! Blessings and peace to you my friends! Rosie

  • tangandchris
    tangandchris Member Posts: 1,855
    edited October 2014


    Hello! So nice to read of those that are feeling better and trying to make the most out of everyday :)

    I'm getting there too, and I never thought I'd really believe but I do think walking helps. I'm walking dd to school in the morning and I'm feeling better mentally and physically. The other day when I was walking, I lifted my head up to the sun and it felt so good. I was thinking that it was only 4-5 months ago that I was in the throws of chemo-land and that I thought it would never get better. I felt so grateful and thankful to God to have that feeling. I'm still having ups and downs, and I suspect I will for awhile...but I get more and more glimpses of light and it feels good.

  • lago
    lago Member Posts: 17,186
    edited October 2014

    As time goes on it does get better. I warned you things would start to feel better 5 weeks PFC. Only up hill from  here. So glad to hear you both are getting past this crap.

  • Jules_NY
    Jules_NY Member Posts: 276
    edited October 2014

    Hello ladies,

    Very refreshing posts. Still in the midst if rads here. I was feeling better then had my surgery and now rads so I'm on a downward swing. I know it's temporary but it's still mentally and physically exhausting for me. I'm glad to see the light by reading your posts!!

    Xoxo

    Julie

  • jbokland
    jbokland Member Posts: 890
    edited October 2014

    Jules

    I shed my first tears through the entire treatment when I layed on that radiation table and cried silently during my rad session. It was a little anti-climactic finish to a 8 month ordeal.  I tried not to sob and heave  my chest during the breath holds.  

    It's all been up hill from here and I've stayed MAD busy getting back to work, volunteering for BC events, speaking engagements for medical marijuana, Sassy Head.  Still feeling achy and physically slower at times.  The TE refills remind me of the radiated tissue and the tightness but  just looking forward! 

  • 3doglady
    3doglady Member Posts: 50
    edited October 2014

    My hysterectomy went well, and the doctor said he looked around while he was in there and saw nothing unusual.  (smile) and sent everything to pathology.  I had more extreme nausea/sickness than I have had with any of my other surgeries, but a few shots of phenergran (sp) and we were on the road going home.  I pick up my new prosthetics next week.  Went from a 34G aka 36DDD to a B!  And I was videotaped during a 'paint a butterfly' event where the art work is being auctioned as a fundraiser, and because of my part in the video, they have asked me to do the 'ask.'  I have not seen the video yet, so will see it for the first time next Saturday.  I plan to get the port out in November.  Love you all for being my isisters through this ordeal.

  • jbokland
    jbokland Member Posts: 890
    edited October 2014

    I was  DD before and going to a C during my reconstruction. Very happy to downsize !!

  • lago
    lago Member Posts: 17,186
    edited October 2014

    I so wanted to be a C. I went from a barely  34B (could only wear Olga and Calvin Klein Bras) to a 24D! Never say "a little bigger" to your male PS. A man's idea of a little bigger is different than a woman's. He said I would be a large B small C. No more Ogla's and Calvin's for me.

    I get very nauseous with surgeries. If they can remove the gas it helps. Also the pain killers also make me nauseous. I was a mess after my BMX. Not quite as bad after exchange but still nauseous. 3rd surgery the anesthesiologist got it right. I felt fine afterwards. You need to tell them you have the issue. And that stupid motion patch isn't the solution.

  • jbokland
    jbokland Member Posts: 890
    edited October 2014

    Lago. Did your exchange include a lat flap?

  • lago
    lago Member Posts: 17,186
    edited October 2014

    I did not do lat flap. I didn't have radiation. exchange was 3 hours

  • gatorgal89
    gatorgal89 Member Posts: 56
    edited October 2014

    Hi Everybody!

    I have had a strange few weeks. I posted before about being in pain...my pain keeps getting worse! My petscan was clear, so went to a neurologist and he sent me for an MRI. MRI shows cartilage damage on my spine! What the hell? I was totally fine before chemo. My MO says I have to see a neurosurgeon, so I will do that. I cried today for the first time in a long time. I'm very exasperated! Hope everyone else is doing well!!

  • lago
    lago Member Posts: 17,186
    edited October 2014

    So not mets right! This is a good thing. Keep us posted regarding the neurologist

  • Rosiesride
    Rosiesride Member Posts: 513
    edited October 2014

    sorry gatorgal...it's sucky with the unknown pains and residual effects...no mets, so thank God for that!  I have back pain on and off...assessing kids the past few days and with kinders, bending over them puts a strain on muscles that aren't normally used!!  Hoping that's the reason, but I will see how it goes in a few weeks!  Keep us posted about your situation and good luck! Rosie

  • tangandchris
    tangandchris Member Posts: 1,855
    edited October 2014


    thinking of you gator girl! ((hugs))

  • princessrn
    princessrn Member Posts: 370
    edited October 2014

    I still have achy joints and muscles. I am not sure if it residual from chemo or is it the Herceptin?  I started Arimidex but that is new so I know the pain is not related to that at this point.  It is better than right after chemo but I am still really still when I get up to move.

  • tangandchris
    tangandchris Member Posts: 1,855
    edited October 2014


    MO took me off of tamoxifin for a week. I started having bad dizzy/vertigo Monday, headaches, naseau and ringing in my ears. She said to stop for a week to see if it stops. I've only been on it a month and up till this point I haven't had any se's. How are ya'll doing on your hormone therapy?

  • jbokland
    jbokland Member Posts: 890
    edited October 2014

    I have been lots if general aches and pains, stiff in general.  I just did a round of a steroid pack for plantar fascitis and is has resolved all the aches!!!

  • lago
    lago Member Posts: 17,186
    edited October 2014

    jbokland "steriod" might be the reason why so many of us do better on Aromasin than the other AIs. I believe it has a bit in it. 

  • Macintx
    Macintx Member Posts: 118
    edited November 2014

    Has anyone had a second round of thinning eyelashes?  I lost them totally with chemo, and they came back nice and thick.  Now I am losing them again at an alarming rate.  There are hardly enough to put mascara on!  I know that it's common for them to thin a bit until they get a staggered growth cycle, but this seems way more than that.  I've been on tamoxifen for 2 1/2 months, so I guess that could be it, but I hadn't read that could be a SE.  I have hardly had any other SEs with the tamoxifen.  

  • MomMom
    MomMom Member Posts: 523
    edited November 2014

    Macintx,  I was basically on the same treatment schedule as yours, minus the Tamoxifen, but I lost my eyelashes twice too.  I also had more eyebrow loss after Taxol was done.  Lost the eyelashes for the second time then too.  Brows came back first, probably because I put Rapid Lash on them twice a day.  I have continuing watery eyes from clogged tear ducts (started 3 weeks post Taxol), so I don't put anything on my lashes - some use Latisse.  However, lashes are back to 80% growth.  They will grow back!

  • Macintx
    Macintx Member Posts: 118
    edited November 2014

    Thanks, MomMom.  I do see the little baby lashes on the areas where the regular lashes are missing, so I guess just like the first time, the new ones are pushing the old ones out.  Fortunately, I haven't had any watery eye issues since chemo. 

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